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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 04/01/2018 1:00 pm

5 hours ago, Anish004 said:

polarityTe said that they will commercialize skinTe in half of 2018
and 1st quarter of 2018 is gone not a single pic from them.

Not a single pic... right, only the pics of the 10-year-old boy in their latest presentation that people on this board were debating ad nauseam.

Seriously, why do people just ignore objective facts on this board? To rile up posters? It's baffling to me.

More pics will come once the healing has progressed.

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Posted : 04/01/2018 1:06 pm

It's not that they're riling up... But rather that a lot of people here have a very narrow view of things based only from what they want to happen. Combine that with heavy emotional toll from scars = inability to see things objectively/ easily get swayed by the smallest things.

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(@nikki_gargin)

Posted : 04/01/2018 4:22 pm

9 hours ago, Anish004 said:

polarityTe said that they will commercialize skinTe in half of 2018
and 1st quarter of 2018 is gone not a single pic from them.

i think they said 2nd half of 2018?? They aim to release peer reviewed results 1st half 2018. They have until the end of June to post clinical results if they stay on track. 

The waiting is driving me abit insane to be honest and sunogel lol once you know something exists its hard to chill out.

I watched a documentry about one of USA first face transplant. This guy blew the bottom half of his face off in the 90s not realising the gun was loaded. He was drunk. Anyways. He spend 15 years as a recluse wearing a germ mask if he needed to go out. His mum never gave up hope and finally face transplant was a reality. He had it and tbh he looks great for real. He has moved town. Got a girlfriend the lot now. Do you think he would have believed he would have a FACE again!?...i cant imagine. Dont give up hope. It might be another 5 years but it will happen. In the mean time try not to wait to live once its here. Instead live knowing one day it will be here.

Mantra i tell myself :) x

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(@anish004)

Posted : 04/01/2018 10:11 pm

Golfpanther dont talk abou that 10 yr old boy skinTe treated pic...a shit look better than that pic
how the fck polarityTe show that unpleasent pic..
they should have waited for a better result from skinTe

anyway if anyone is free than can he please write or give me a link to understand skinTe skin regeneration mechanism ..on how it works.. TGF B or WNT pathway or what ...thanx if anyone post a link here for that

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(@damnboy)

Posted : 04/02/2018 4:26 am

6 hours ago, Anish004 said:

Golfpanther dont talk abou that 10 yr old boy skinTe treated pic...a shit look better than that pic
how the fck polarityTe show that unpleasent pic..
they should have waited for a better result from skinTe

anyway if anyone is free than can he please write or give me a link to understand skinTe skin regeneration mechanism ..on how it works.. TGF B or WNT pathway or what ...thanx if anyone post a link here for that

Relax this not the final healing and I have to point this if skinTE prevent scarring and regenerate skin and it propagates into scars then doctors can use skinTE multiple times even if the first time is not scarless healing but the skin has regenerated 80% then the second time you can regenerate the rest 20% the goal is to prevent scarring and regenerate the skin the use of not aggressive treatment of skinTE can be used multiple times I guess

Just now, damnBOY said:
6 hours ago, Anish004 said:

Golfpanther dont talk abou that 10 yr old boy skinTe treated pic...a shit look better than that pic
how the fck polarityTe show that unpleasent pic..
they should have waited for a better result from skinTe

anyway if anyone is free than can he please write or give me a link to understand skinTe skin regeneration mechanism ..on how it works.. TGF B or WNT pathway or what ...thanx if anyone post a link here for that

Relax this not the final healing and I have to point this if skinTE prevent scarring and regenerate skin and it propagates into scars then doctors can use skinTE multiple times even if the first time is not scarless healing but the skin has regenerated 80% then the second time you can regenerate the rest 20% the goal is to prevent scarring and regenerate the skin the use of not aggressive treatment of skinTE can be used multiple times I guess

The key here is the propagation

6 minutes ago, damnBOY said:
Relax this not the final healing and I have to point this if skinTE prevent scarring and regenerate skin and it propagates into scars then doctors can use skinTE multiple times even if the first time is not scarless healing but the skin has regenerated 80% then the second time you can regenerate the rest 20% the goal is to prevent scarring and regenerate the skin the use of not aggressive treatment of skinTE can be used multiple times I guess The key here is the propagation

polarity said they will create a paste for injections into scars for not agressive treatments

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Posted : 04/02/2018 5:05 am

35 minutes ago, damnBOY said:
I have to point this if skinTE prevent scarring and regenerate skin and it propagates into scars then doctors can use skinTE multiple times even if the first time is not scarless healing but the skin has regenerated 80% then the second time you can regenerate the rest 20% the goal is to prevent scarring and regenerate the skin the use of not aggressive treatment of skinTE can be used multiple times I guess The key here is the propagation polarity said they will create a paste for injections into scars for not agressive treatments

What on earth? How are they going to inject a paste without excising the affected area again, and how would the existing scar vanish by injecting something into it?

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(@nikki_gargin)

Posted : 04/02/2018 6:22 am

Yeh i must admit im abit doubtful about injecting skinte as it works as a smart paste that builds upwards through smart communication of cells. There has been no mention of its ability to break down scar tissue and rebuild or they would have tried that rather than taking the risk of removing skin grafts from people. 

Do surgeons have instrumentals to 'hole punch' out acne scars? I would be interested to know. I can perhaps see that...there is still issue of donor skin. This is what full thickness theigh that has been liposuctioned to create contour looks like....you dont want this is patches on ya face. Its not as simple as full thickness skin regeneration. 

 

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Posted : 04/02/2018 7:11 am

2 hours ago, surgical scar said:
What on earth? How are they going to inject a paste without excising the affected area again, and how would the existing scar vanish by injecting something into it?

Needling, Subcision, Dermabrasion all techniques used currently to break up scar tissue and create a wound bed under skin for skin to reorganize itself for better appearance. SkinTe can be needled into skin applied after dermabrasion or injected into skin after subcision surely. Why are you and many others fixated on excision as the only way. This approach is suited to scars of full coverage like burns and grafts.

And as DamnBOY said if skinTe does offer some regeneration and prevenetion of scar tissue or possibly propagation why couldnt it be repeated with less invasive techniques to achieve a good result for acne scars. You can repeat subcision and needling alone to get good results so will adding skinte help??. If not then we are talking about a paste that does nothing when applied to skin.

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Posted : 04/02/2018 7:56 am

41 minutes ago, Sniffy said:
Needling, Subcision, Dermabrasion all techniques used currently to break up scar tissue and create a wound bed under skin for skin to reorganize itself for better appearance. SkinTe can be needled into skin applied after dermabrasion or injected into skin after subcision surely.

Those create wounds only under the skin? What about scar tissue on the dermis?
I have heard people here say dermabrasion makes your skin look terrible though I don't know much about it myself...

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(@damnboy)

Posted : 04/02/2018 11:03 am

3 hours ago, surgical scar said:
Those create wounds only under the skin? What about scar tissue on the dermis?
I have heard people here say dermabrasion makes your skin look terrible though I don't know much about it myself...

Look at the website they say somewhere that skinTE propagates into old scar tissue regenerating new healthy without creating a wound bed

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Posted : 04/02/2018 8:10 pm

13 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:

Yeh i must admit im abit doubtful about injecting skinte as it works as a smart paste that builds upwards through smart communication of cells. There has been no mention of its ability to break down scar tissue and rebuild or they would have tried that rather than taking the risk of removing skin grafts from people. 

Do surgeons have instrumentals to 'hole punch' out acne scars? I would be interested to know. I can perhaps see that...there is still issue of donor skin. This is what full thickness theigh that has been liposuctioned to create contour looks like....you dont want this is patches on ya face. Its not as simple as full thickness skin regeneration. 

 

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Poor guy. 

I wonder what happened here. Guy seems to have lost his eye as well. 

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Posted : 04/02/2018 8:48 pm

37 minutes ago, Acnesucksforgood said:
Poor guy.

I wonder what happened here. Guy seems to have lost his eye as well.

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Posted : 04/02/2018 9:02 pm

12 hours ago, surgical scar said:
Those create wounds only under the skin? What about scar tissue on the dermis?
I have heard people here say dermabrasion makes your skin look terrible though I don't know much about it myself...

Doctors inject fillers into the dermis anyway. No harm can be done by injecting Skinte into dermis after it has been hit hard with 2mm or 3mm needling and also subcision to create a site for new healing of new skin. Im not totally sure about just injecting into dermis and hoping it propagates scar tissue time will tell. But creating a wound that needs to heal with SkinTe now added to the mix could be massive. It just comes down to the product and if it truly does prevent scarring and contraction offering normal skin layers to return. Large burn scars or acne scars or any other scar what does it matter, it comes down to the product and what it actually can do.

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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 04/03/2018 1:52 pm

On 4/1/2018 at 8:11 PM, Anish004 said:

Golfpanther dont talk abou that 10 yr old boy skinTe treated pic...a shit look better than that pic
how the fck polarityTe show that unpleasent pic..
they should have waited for a better result from skinTe

anyway if anyone is free than can he please write or give me a link to understand skinTe skin regeneration mechanism ..on how it works.. TGF B or WNT pathway or what ...thanx if anyone post a link here for that

You claimed no pics had been posted and I merely pointed out that was incorrect. Just because you personally, someone ostensibly not trained in this area of research, thinks the pictures aren't good examples doesn't mean no pictures were presented. They probably put the six week healing photos up to show paranoid people (like a lot of posters on here) that the product was in fact being used at all.

The basic idea behind how it works is that after taking the skin biopsy it's processed with the protein HD5 (human alpha defensin 5) that causes increased production of LGR5 and LGR6 cells. Those cells create the niche (or polarity) for skin regeneration in theory. Also, this isn't everything as Swanson said on my call with him that there is a trade secret component, which makes sensethey don't want everything out in the open or companies would just copy it.

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(@scarright)

Posted : 04/03/2018 5:04 pm

PolarityTE up 8.5% last night... News must be coming soon.

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(@anish004)

Posted : 04/03/2018 9:37 pm

@ScarRightBit of confusion
beacuse polarityTe has two announce coming up
1st Preclinical data of OsteoTe
and 2nd Human trials results of skinTe

cant judge what are these ups and downs indicating to

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Posted : 04/04/2018 8:35 pm

http://www.sunogel.com/team

Newly published. Someone should contact the members of the team to get an update and ask about human trials. The other members of the team might be able to communicate better than Dr. Sun can.

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Posted : 04/04/2018 11:58 pm

3 hours ago, CollegeKidd said:
http://www.sunogel.com/team

Newly published. Someone should contact the members of the team to get an update and ask about human trials. The other members of the team might be able to communicate better than Dr. Sun can.

I sent them an email about their human trials a few weeks ago. No response...

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(@anish004)

Posted : 04/05/2018 2:33 am

sunogel and Gemstone bio are stuck to preclinical trial from long time
only polarityTe looks serious..hope it works and soon be on market

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Posted : 04/05/2018 9:39 pm

19 hours ago, Anish004 said:

sunogel and Gemstone bio are stuck to preclinical trial from long time
only polarityTe looks serious..hope it works and soon be on market

Sunogel just published their new preclinical study last September, while Gemstone licensed Jhu patent developed a few years ago. For the time being, its too early to say if Sunogel is really stuck yet.

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Posted : 04/05/2018 10:45 pm

Did Polarity say the derivatives that they hypothetically want to develop won't need skin harvest from a donor site? It's awful to create scars somewhere else, and won't be popular cosmetically.

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Posted : 04/06/2018 1:30 am

2 hours ago, surgical scar said:

Did Polarity say the derivatives that they hypothetically want to develop won't need skin harvest from a donor site? It's awful to create scars somewhere else, and won't be popular cosmetically.

a very small size of skin is wanted from donor site...nobody gonna care for that and if ur surgeon want that he can also cover that donor wound with that created paste...
i am just thinking about if it will work on those faces who have scarred and stretched pores all over face..how this gonna work to make pore to its original size .... as i am also going through comedonal acne and getting stretched pores everywhere on full face..............................ugh

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Posted : 04/06/2018 1:44 am

6 minutes ago, Anish004 said:
a very small size of skin is wanted from donor site...nobody gonna care for that and if ur surgeon want that he can also cover that donor wound with that created paste...
i am just thinking about if it will work on those faces who have scarred and stretched pores all over face..how this gonna work to make pore to its original size .... as i am also going through comedonal acne and getting stretched pores everywhere on full face..............................ugh

Yes, we totally care about the donor site scar and it won't be too small to be invisible.
No, they said they can't do anything about the donor site scar. They're going to need the paste for the treatment area, otherwise they won't cut it out so long. And that's not how SkinTE works...covering a wound.

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(@simplemutton)

Posted : 04/06/2018 1:45 am

It's April and still no news about SkinTE

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Posted : 04/07/2018 12:25 pm

Sunogel is operatiing out of a strip mall.....google map it! God this thread started almost 11 years ago.....people who were 20 are now 31.....lol! Carrie Underwood while not having acne scars just had a bad accident and got her face scarred.......maybe if Skin TE wants to prove their products work there is no better person to try it on.

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