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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 02/24/2018 10:40 pm

26 minutes ago, kim6288 said:
On 2/23/2018 at 1:31 PM, golfpanther said:
Agreed. I feel bad for encouraging sousou and kim to push for treatment. I didn't know until the medical monitor, C. Scott Hultman, responded to a poster on here that it's in the post-market trail period.

No one is going to recommend it until if and when that trial is concluded and has positive results.

thanks I got nowhere with it. Are the docs not legally allowed to even discuss it? I just have a problem with them offering a traditional scar revision or laser when thats like a setback. It would be better to do nothing. It bothers me that they would offer something like that which could add more scar tissue potentially. And also how they say I would not recommend skinte for this problem. What why? If it can regenerate tissue it would be the treatment of choice for every kind of scar tissue! So what are we looking at here for when the docs can start using skin te?

No one except the docs and PolarityTE can answer this definitively, but I think this comes down to legality.

Recommend is the key word here. SkinTE is in the post-market approval phase. Until the results are final and have been vetted for the indications they're currently being used for there is no way any doctor could recommend its use. I'm not sure what your scars are, but I'm guessing their not burns. Perhaps they fall under the other indications PolarityTE mentioned as part of the trial, but even then I'm sure they have their patients for it and aren't going to provide any more until after it concludes, unless a patient faces a medical emergency where something like a skin graft is impossible (i.e. burns over 80-90% of the body where there isn't enough healthy tissue to graft). They actually replied to a mother on their Facebook a bit ago that had said her daughter had suffered extensive burns. Perhaps she got the treatment on an emergency basis.

In terms of why the doctors would recommend traditional scar revision and/or lasers... this might be cynical of me, but the answer is probably money. A doctor can provide those treatments right now and make something versus not being able to sell you a SkinTE treatment. On the less cynical side, they might think that something is better than nothing and until SkinTE's results are final and approved they can do what they can to improve your scars.

In terms of when SkinTE can be used (if it works) you're probably at least looking at sometime in the second half of this year. A lot of investors in PolarityTE on the stocktwits sitethat was posted hereseem convinced that initial results will be out in the next month or two. After that there will be some time for the peer-reviewed medical papers to come out, I would imagine.

Given the FDA wanting to ease up on the regulatory processes for regenerative medicine products, I think if SkinTE works it will be rushed to approval. Just guessing though.

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Posted : 02/27/2018 8:39 pm

So, Barry Honig has a LOT of baggage associated with him, but two things happened regarding him and PolarityTE.

He seems to have sold 1400 shares BUT bought 15,400 shares as well.

Here's an article about the sale: https://www.thelincolnianonline.com/2018/02/27/barry-c-honig-sells-1400-shares-of-polarityte-inc-cool-stock.html

And the one about the purchase: https://www.dispatchtribunal.com/2018/02/27/polarityte-inc-cool-major-shareholder-barry-c-honig-buys-15400-shares.html

For some reason the links to the actual filings don't work for me. I'm not an investor, so I'm curious if anyone else could hazard a guess as to why Honig would sell 1400 shares at roughly the same time he'd purchase 15,400, outside of manipulating the value, which of course is a possibility. Perhaps the shares he sold were one type and the ones he acquired were another?

Obviously, 15,400 is far greater than the 1400 he sold.

In looking at the insider trading history of PolarityTE, the last time something like this happened was just before pig results were released. John Stetson purchased 20,000 shares at $10/share and Swanson purchased roughly 1500 and Beeghley bought a whopping 40,000 shares from April to May of 2017.

Here's the link to that: https://www.marketbeat.com/stocks/NASDAQ/COOL/?RegistrationCode=SocialMedia-direct&DefaultTab=Insider&utm_source=GeneralSocialMedia&utm_medium=Social

Again, I'm no stock expert, but Honig's activity is mirroring what we saw just prior to release of preclinical data. The purchases last year and Honig's just now are the only time in PolarityTE's brief history that major insider buys have occurred. To me, this indicates thatresults (at least preliminary ones) will likely be released within the next two months. I'd also expect to see Swanson, Lough, Stetson and other insiders to buy in more as well.

Not saying this means SkinTE is completely regenerating skin, but I think they must be pretty pleased with the results thus far.

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(@rez77)

Posted : 03/01/2018 2:00 am

You know why this is so depressing? Cause today I looked at my scars and the general state of my skin and actually thought to myself, well I could just commit suicide and that would be that. Fat fibrous hypertophic scars on my nose, rolling scars on my cheeks, icepick scars, a line of scars on one cheek that looks like a big gash as if someone knifed me but its from acne. and more icpick scars on my temples. there's volume lose, skin texture is fucked on broad areas and that's what i'm dealing with.

And then I thought, maybe i'll come to site and there will be some good news and all i read is more BS about stock prices being manpiulated and how this stuff is in a "trial" period and just more and more speculation that its all not for acne but burns and then more speculation that you'll need a full skin thickness excission.

ARE YOU PEOPLE CRAZY!!!!?????? YEAH I GUESS SO AND SO AM I FOR EVEN ENTERTAINING ALL THIS BS BS BS BS BS BS

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? EXCISE MY WHOLE FACE LIKE FACE OFF AND THEN HAVE A PASTE APPLIED TO MY SKINLESS ANATOMICALLY EXPOSED FACE SO I"M LIKE A ZOMBIE IN A HORROR MOVIE. GIVE ME A BREAK. THAT"S NOT HOW IT WORKS AND NO ONE IS GOING TO DO THIS.

YOU GUYS ARE LEGIT ALL INSANE EVEN ENTERTAINING THIS BS. I'm OUT.

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Posted : 03/01/2018 4:54 am

2 hours ago, Rez77 said:

You know why this is so depressing? Cause today I looked at my scars and the general state of my skin and actually thought to myself, well I could just commit suicide and that would be that. Fat fibrous hypertophic scars on my nose, rolling scars on my cheeks, icepick scars, a line of scars on one cheek that looks like a big gash as if someone knifed me but its from acne. and more icpick scars on my temples. there's volume lose, skin texture is fucked on broad areas and that's what i'm dealing with.

And then I thought, maybe i'll come to site and there will be some good news and all i read is more BS about stock prices being manpiulated and how this stuff is in a "trial" period and just more and more speculation that its all not for acne but burns and then more speculation that you'll need a full skin thickness excission.

ARE YOU PEOPLE CRAZY!!!!?????? YEAH I GUESS SO AND SO AM I FOR EVEN ENTERTAINING ALL THIS BS BS BS BS BS BS

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? EXCISE MY WHOLE FACE LIKE FACE OFF AND THEN HAVE A PASTE APPLIED TO MY SKINLESS ANATOMICALLY EXPOSED FACE SO I"M LIKE A ZOMBIE IN A HORROR MOVIE. GIVE ME A BREAK. THAT"S NOT HOW IT WORKS AND NO ONE IS GOING TO DO THIS.

YOU GUYS ARE LEGIT ALL INSANE EVEN ENTERTAINING THIS BS. I'm OUT.

Chill man. I am in the same boat. I have suffered for 11 years. I was a bright young guy with a girlfriend, looking forward to excelling in school and feeling the top of the world, when suddenly cystic acne came and turned my whole life upside down. When it was over, I thought I was free yet had these hideous looking severe acne scars on my cheeks. Girlfriend broke up with me, I became disinterested in studying, I try to be happy now but no matter how I tell myself that I was never truly happy these 11 years. I have to fight with self esteem issues and inner demons within me, even though I never had these problems pre acne scarring. I felt like I was thrown into life imprisonment for a crime I did not commit. I am imprisoned in my own mind. If I were to rate my whole life I would put it a 2/10. 2 because at least I don't come from a broken family and are above average in terms of wealth and material stuff. But given the choice to be from a poor family without acne scars I will take the latter every f-king single time.

I am still positive (Or try to), I believe SkinTE is the solution. We are almost reaching our goal, do not give up now. This is the holy grail in skin regeneration. We just need to be patient, wait for results to be out. Surgeons will start adopting this technology. Read a book, go on a vacation, focus on your spirituality, do not keep hampering on your scars. Keep the faith, the signs are positive, I guarantee we will get out scars removed soon.

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(@sniffy)

Posted : 03/01/2018 5:22 am

Patience is all thats required here. Some recent newbie posters on stocktwits seem fairly uninformed putting up that dodgy seeking alpha article "Investors beware" back on December 7th claiming PolarityTe is a scam. Despite another article on seeking alpha just over a week ago pumping up PolarityTe tyres.

If you have followed SkinTe for a long time now you can see how things are moving in a very positive direction and the chances this is a scam or results are a complete flop are highly unlikely at this stage.

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Posted : 03/01/2018 6:32 am

hope Al3forever and sniffy words come true...i am in deep depression from 3 years from chicken pox scars 2 moles on nose pox scars on mose
3 moles on cheeks,AMVC Scars,Acne scars

i am still confused how SkinTe help me ..i just want to get rid of moles and 2 pox scars on my nose....

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 03/01/2018 7:18 am

More good news!

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/birchbiomed-is-cleared-to-begin-first-of-its-kind-phase-ii-clinical-trial-for-ground-breaking-anti-scarring-drug-674280503.html

It's a very promising drug. :)

Life with scars can still be good, by the way. I've got a pretty big facial one (traffic accident) and although there are moments that are awkward and sad most of the time I don't even think about my scar anymore. I'm rather reclusive though. lol But nonetheless.

Don't do anything irreversible/rash. Focus on the good things.

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Posted : 03/01/2018 7:20 am

46 minutes ago, Anish004 said:

hope Al3forever and sniffy words come true...i am in deep depression from 3 years from chicken pox scars 2 moles on nose pox scars on mose
3 moles on cheeks,AMVC Scars,Acne scars

i am still confused how SkinTe help me ..i just want to get rid of moles and 2 pox scars on my nose....

SkinTE will never help you. You suffer from BDD. Only you can help yourself, there is nothing wrong with your face.

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Posted : 03/01/2018 7:33 am

11 minutes ago, arte90 said:
SkinTE will never help you. You suffer from BDD. Only you can help yourself, there is nothing wrong with your face.

shut up man i am not talking to you...you dont know how.much my face look bad with a mole grown under hypertrophic scar and also that on nose...and AMVC scarring..and if u dont know what it is come to my home or search on internet..

15 minutes ago, Lapis lazuli said:

More good news!

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/birchbiomed-is-cleared-to-begin-first-of-its-kind-phase-ii-clinical-trial-for-ground-breaking-anti-scarring-drug-674280503.html

It's a very promising drug. :)

Life with scars can still be good, by the way. I've got a pretty big facial one (traffic accident) and although there are moments that are awkward and sad most of the time I don't even think about my scar anymore. I'm rather reclusive though. lol But nonetheless.

Don't do anything irreversible/rash. Focus on the good things.

suppose tif it get good results how much time it take to come to market

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Posted : 03/01/2018 7:55 am

20 minutes ago, Anish004 said:
suppose tif it get good results how much time it take to come to market

I think 2-3 years. I've heard an interview with one of the people who run that company/research and they're doing their best to get it to the market as fast as possible.

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Posted : 03/01/2018 3:12 pm

As much as I feel for everyone on this board and the pain their scarring has caused them, I feel like it's unproductive for this particular space (a board about scarless healing) and there are plenty of boards on this site and others where you can share your personal stories.

I'm not trying to be insensitive, but the personal tales don't add to the conversation about what we all, ostensibly, come here to discuss.

In terms of excising portions or most of your face... PolarityTE has repeatedly said (and others on here have reinforced ad nauseam, myself included) that they will have derivatives if SkinTE is successful. Also, what do you think happens with skin grafts? They excise the damaged tissue, take a split-thickness graft from somewhere else, and put it over the damage and exposed area. I understand that it's used for burns or other major tissue loss, but I don't get people acting like this is something that never happens. SkinTE does the same thing in terms of excising damage tissue, the paste just hopefully yields a better outcome. If you get complete regeneration from SkinTE, why wouldn't you want to do it if your scars bother you so much?

I pointed out the stock activity from Honig to show that the last time a major insider purchase happened it precipitated the release of the preclinical swine studies. My inference is that results in humans will likely mirror this timeline (1-2 months after major insider activity) and that's based on observable data (from the link I provided), not just some random opinion.

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Posted : 03/01/2018 6:34 pm

16 hours ago, Rez77 said:

You know why this is so depressing? Cause today I looked at my scars and the general state of my skin and actually thought to myself, well I could just commit suicide and that would be that. Fat fibrous hypertophic scars on my nose, rolling scars on my cheeks, icepick scars, a line of scars on one cheek that looks like a big gash as if someone knifed me but its from acne. and more icpick scars on my temples. there's volume lose, skin texture is fucked on broad areas and that's what i'm dealing with.

And then I thought, maybe i'll come to site and there will be some good news and all i read is more BS about stock prices being manpiulated and how this stuff is in a "trial" period and just more and more speculation that its all not for acne but burns and then more speculation that you'll need a full skin thickness excission.

ARE YOU PEOPLE CRAZY!!!!?????? YEAH I GUESS SO AND SO AM I FOR EVEN ENTERTAINING ALL THIS BS BS BS BS BS BS

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? EXCISE MY WHOLE FACE LIKE FACE OFF AND THEN HAVE A PASTE APPLIED TO MY SKINLESS ANATOMICALLY EXPOSED FACE SO I"M LIKE A ZOMBIE IN A HORROR MOVIE. GIVE ME A BREAK. THAT"S NOT HOW IT WORKS AND NO ONE IS GOING TO DO THIS.

YOU GUYS ARE LEGIT ALL INSANE EVEN ENTERTAINING THIS BS. I'm OUT.

There is stuff you can do until something comes out.......skinbio has copper peptide products that will tighten your skin to give a better look. If your a guy you can always grow a beard or girl can wear make-up. I know it is depressing but hang in there.....things will get better.

10 hours ago, Lapis lazuli said:
I think 2-3 years. I've heard an interview with one of the people who run that company/research and they're doing their best to get it to the market as fast as possible.

Even if they put this stuff on the market...i would wait a while until long term results before dumping 13k into something this new. It would be great if insurances would pay for at least some of this under mental health. I am much older and have waited years and nothing has ever come out. I don't see with all the acne treatments...that someone could have acne scarred skin today. Accutane and spironolatone can control acne. Even guys can take Spiro if they go on it for 4 months...off 1 and go back on. Testosterone is what causes acne.

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Posted : 03/01/2018 10:00 pm

2 hours ago, nikkigirl said:
There is stuff you can do until something comes out.......skinbio has copper peptide products that will tighten your skin to give a better look. If your a guy you can always grow a beard or girl can wear make-up. I know it is depressing but hang in there.....things will get better. Even if they put this stuff on the market...i would wait a while until long term results before dumping 13k into something this new. It would be great if insurances would pay for at least some of this under mental health. I am much older and have waited years and nothing has ever come out. I don't see with all the acne treatments...that someone could have acne scarred skin today. Accutane and spironolatone can control acne. Even guys can take Spiro if they go on it for 4 months...off 1 and go back on. Testosterone is what causes acne.

Zinc supplements are like the holy grail for clear skin (At least for me). Have been taking them regularly and I've not got a pimple since ages. I wished I knew about such stuff instead of going into aggressive treatments that potentially aggravated my acne and caused it to scar more.

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Posted : 03/02/2018 9:30 pm

I haven't been on this board in a couple months... I can't believe how long I've had to live with my scars.

I'm not going to read all the pages of info I've missed. Can someone tell me if there are any note-worthy updates? Anything with SkinTE or Sunogel? Anything with human trials?

If anyone wants to hear something funny.. of course I have scars all over my body and face, and as of last week I now have pityriosis rosea ALL over me. (Look it up if you don't know what it is) LOL I LOVE LIFE!

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Posted : 03/03/2018 3:03 am

5 hours ago, CollegeKidd said:

I haven't been on this board in a couple months... I can't believe how long I've had to live with my scars.

I'm not going to read all the pages of info I've missed. Can someone tell me if there are any note-worthy updates? Anything with SkinTE or Sunogel? Anything with human trials?

If anyone wants to hear something funny.. of course I have scars all over my body and face, and as of last week I now have pityriosis rosea ALL over me. (Look it up if you don't know what it is) LOL I LOVE LIFE!

Nope.

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(@scarright)

Posted : 03/03/2018 6:42 am

3 hours ago, Rez77 said:
Nope.

Welcome back Rez. I know deep down you just love this Scarless healing thread, you just can't stay away.

In regards to what has happened in the last two months, the company have started their human trials in select hospitals and the company released a recent announcement, stating that so far the human trials are showing similar results to the pigs in the initial stages.

Full results for the human trial will probably come out in 2-3 months.

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Posted : 03/03/2018 8:57 am

If trials are successful I think that by the end of the year there will be some surgeons that will use SkinTE for cosmetic problems (acne scars revision).
Probably not on the face, but in the back there should be no problem

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Posted : 03/03/2018 10:23 am

Won't this mean eternal youth looking if it truly delivers?

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Posted : 03/03/2018 11:37 am

eagerely waiting fo positive results from skinTe

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Posted : 03/03/2018 11:46 am

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Posted : 03/03/2018 12:35 pm

There are so many things with this that seems impossible.
Regardless of how you look at it, the cut in your skin needs to attach to the new skin. In other words the borders will still be there. We shouldn't put our faith into something so uncertain.

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Posted : 03/03/2018 12:58 pm

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Posted : 03/03/2018 2:00 pm

Please read through this topic before making any statements. The same questions are being asked over and over and over. Its annoying when "new" people come here and think they know everything regarding SkinTe wothout even reading about the basic stuff.

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Posted : 03/03/2018 3:53 pm

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Posted : 03/03/2018 5:12 pm

3 hours ago, Frasier said:

Please read through this topic before making any statements. The same questions are being asked over and over and over. Its annoying when "new" people come here and think they know everything regarding SkinTe wothout even reading about the basic stuff.

People do have a life outside this thread. People aren't going to read several months of post just to read what has happened. Candy Says has summed it up beautifully.

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