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An ECM marker,
this ecm, with a metal rim, gets 95% regeneration on a soft tissue that is constantly moving:
The almost transparent collagen matrix consists of medically purified pig intestine, which is broken down by the scavenger cells (macrophages) of the immune system.
http://www.dhzb.de/international_services/...essedetail/290/
I'm expecting Acell, the most potent ecm there is, to beat this, but if Acell does not beat this, then I want this material used on my skin...
My acne started when I was 10 years old and hospitalized for a severe asthma attact. I started breaking out in cysts on my forehead and nothing cleared my skin up until I went on accutane. My parents took me to several very good dermatologists and I was on antibiotics and lots of other medications and well as topical creams and gels. I did not eat a lot of sweets, and I hardly ever drank pop.
Most people who have severe cystic acne inherited it. Honestly, nothing really clears up cystic acne except for accutane, and for less severe acne, other medications and topicals. I don't know how old you are, but I think you are taking a lot of the medications and also discoveries about diet and skin peels and being able to access information and order products on-line for granted. None of these things existed in the 80's and early 90's (except for accutane).
We started breaking out at the same age, but I was hospitalized at 6 and 7 years of age due to bad asthma attacks. I broke out in cysts along my jaw line mainly and nothing cleared me until I went on accutane as well. Difference being, my liver was failing on the medication and after I was forced off of it, I broke out again within weeks. I agree that most people inherit this problem, but it is more a susceptibility issue. I didn't take any medications besides accutane and that was for a duration of 6 months. The knowledge about the link between acne and a healthy diet has always existed, it's just never been mainstream. Hell, I wouldn't have found out about it unless a naturopathic doctor friend of mine wouldn't have come along and shared the wealth. We've always been able to treat this problem naturally. Instead, we tried to take the easy route and throw down some pills and glop on some topicals to mask the true problems. We are getting what we deserve ultimately. Life always provides a balance. Yin-Yang, Karma, destiny, or what have you.
/rant
I'm calling Manning tomorrow for sure. I'll include a summation of the conversation in my next post.
I'm calling Manning tomorrow for sure. I'll include a summation of the conversation in my next post.
Ask him how long will it take before there is available treatments for scarring using acell.
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how confident is he in totally removing scars using this product. ( which he said he was very optimistic. But the other guy someone elsed called said they have no relevant experience using ecm to treat scars? ) So If he could provide more details, then maybe we would get a clearer picture to how potent acell is.
I just spoke to Mr. Manning about his product and he was full of confidence in it's scar removal capabilities. Our conversation was extremely uplifting and I received all of the information that I wanted.
Ask him how long will it take before there is available treatments for scarring using acell.
He told me there is already a plastic surgeon in North Carolina, USA who is using the TCA method and applying the ACell. The scaffold and powder have been available to the public for a week now according to him.
and
how confident is he in totally removing scars using this product. ( which he said he was very optimistic. But the other guy someone elsed called said they have no relevant experience using ecm to treat scars? ) So If he could provide more details, then maybe we would get a clearer picture to how potent acell is.
I asked him about what this other doctor had said about ACell's effectiveness with scars and he just shrugged it off and said the guy just didn't want to promote it because that isn't what they have depicted the stuff as to the public and they don't want to risk any more judicial trouble. He did say that it is only a matter of someone promoting new and innovative methods of application and we will most likely have our answers to scars (answer being 100%). I'm going to get an appointment with a plastic surgeon next month and try to sell them my method. It's worth a shot that everyone would go to their respective doctors and promote this product to get it out there. Mr. Manning said they hadn't pushed their stuff harder because they weren't expecting so many to jump on it.
Hope is still alive.
i'm sure surgeons will use the tca peel. ecm, but will be no better than fraxel,
That's entirely incorrect. The majority of people who have done peels have never done over 50% concentration. I read that if you surpass that level, you will literally dissolve any tissue that it is applied to and quickly. Fraxel could never be as potent as the strongest TCA Cross treatment.
Everyone remember that Mike Manning has a vested interest in pushing ACell to as many doctors as possible. By creating hype among our crowd he only furthers the potential demand for his product.
That being said, won won, I think that is potentially the best news I've ever heard in my life.
That being said, I'll believe it when I see it.
Who is this NC doctor?
Why does it have to be TCA cross or TCA peel? It elevates the skin by building up collagen doesnt it? That doesnt totally remove the scar tissue and we might not have the results we are looking for? Am I right?
Why cant we use excision? I think It would work better. Now, we just have to find a doctor willing to do do that. All we need is just one patient who successfully removes his/her scars for other doctors to follow.
also from this hairloss forum:
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_en...category-1.html
There are a few doctors who have already got ACELL and are about to
experiment with it. One of them is in Toronto (also mentioned on another
thread) and the other one is in California. The doctor in cali is also on
this forum but I'm not sure if it's ok for me to say his name so I won't.
He will be testing it on scars as well.
So there isnt just one doctor working with acell.
http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/...mp;pageId=3.5.1
From this video, it says acell has been used on HALF A MILLION people. So what were the results like eh? If we have mostly positive, Im sure doctors would jump on acell and it will open up the possibilities for us.
I just spoke to Mr. Manning about his product and he was full of confidence in it's scar removal capabilities. Our conversation was extremely uplifting and I received all of the information that I wanted.
Ask him how long will it take before there is available treatments for scarring using acell.He told me there is already a plastic surgeon in North Carolina, USA who is using the TCA method and applying the ACell. The scaffold and powder have been available to the public for a week now according to him.
and
how confident is he in totally removing scars using this product. ( which he said he was very optimistic. But the other guy someone elsed called said they have no relevant experience using ecm to treat scars? ) So If he could provide more details, then maybe we would get a clearer picture to how potent acell is.
I asked him about what this other doctor had said about ACell's effectiveness with scars and he just shrugged it off and said the guy just didn't want to promote it because that isn't what they have depicted the stuff as to the public and they don't want to risk any more judicial trouble. He did say that it is only a matter of someone promoting new and innovative methods of application and we will most likely have our answers to scars (answer being 100%). I'm going to get an appointment with a plastic surgeon next month and try to sell them my method. It's worth a shot that everyone would go to their respective doctors and promote this product to get it out there. Mr. Manning said they hadn't pushed their stuff harder because they weren't expecting so many to jump on it.
Hope is still alive.
Doesn't make sense. If this thing can get rid of scarring, every derm and their brother would be on the bandwagon. Perhaps acell does HELP, but will eventually be the next fraxel. ( a dud)
Doesn't make sense. If this thing can get rid of scarring, every derm and their brother would be on the bandwagon. Perhaps acell does HELP, but will eventually be the next fraxel. ( a dud)
I think you'd be surprised at how uninformed most derms are. I seriously think I know more about certain things sometimes lol. I saw a derm last month who said the only option for scars were lasers and had no idea what needling was, and when i described it she said, "oh that sounds very cutting edge, i will have to look into that"...lol
Doesn't make sense. If this thing can get rid of scarring, every derm and their brother would be on the bandwagon. Perhaps acell does HELP, but will eventually be the next fraxel. ( a dud)
I think you'd be surprised at how uninformed most derms are. I seriously think I know more about certain things sometimes lol. I saw a derm last month who said the only option for scars were lasers and had no idea what needling was, and when i described it she said, "oh that sounds very cutting edge, i will have to look into that"...lol
I don't mean to seem rude, but honestly, if this thing is supposedly out, the media would've had a frenzy with this the past few months, especially after trials. All the media has covered is the man's finger, and that was some 6 months ago. I so want this to be the cure, but if it was wouldn't it have been on the news 24/7?
Doesn't make sense. If this thing can get rid of scarring, every derm and their brother would be on the bandwagon. Perhaps acell does HELP, but will eventually be the next fraxel. ( a dud)
I think you'd be surprised at how uninformed most derms are. I seriously think I know more about certain things sometimes lol. I saw a derm last month who said the only option for scars were lasers and had no idea what needling was, and when i described it she said, "oh that sounds very cutting edge, i will have to look into that"...lol
I don't mean to seem rude, but honestly, if this thing is supposedly out, the media would've had a frenzy with this the past few months, especially after trials. All the media has covered is the man's finger, and that was some 6 months ago. I so want this to be the cure, but if it was wouldn't it have been on the news 24/7?
Allow me to reiterate. ACell has not been so boldly advertised due to the company's ignorance to who their target consumer would be. They have been pushing it on the military no doubt and almost any vet in a hospital will tell you about the product. They didn't try to sell it to dermatologists and the like due to it's original intentions (war veterans).
Doesn't make sense. If this thing can get rid of scarring, every derm and their brother would be on the bandwagon. Perhaps acell does HELP, but will eventually be the next fraxel. ( a dud)
I think you'd be surprised at how uninformed most derms are. I seriously think I know more about certain things sometimes lol. I saw a derm last month who said the only option for scars were lasers and had no idea what needling was, and when i described it she said, "oh that sounds very cutting edge, i will have to look into that"...lol
I don't mean to seem rude, but honestly, if this thing is supposedly out, the media would've had a frenzy with this the past few months, especially after trials. All the media has covered is the man's finger, and that was some 6 months ago. I so want this to be the cure, but if it was wouldn't it have been on the news 24/7?
Allow me to reiterate. ACell has not been so boldly advertised due to the company's ignorance to who their target consumer would be. They have been pushing it on the military no doubt and almost any vet in a hospital will tell you about the product. They didn't try to sell it to dermatologists and the like due to it's original intentions (war veterans).
I see both of you have a point. Anyone living in the US? The thing now is to ask a derm to use it on scars. If it works like a miracle, then the word will be spread and all the derms will jump in the acell bandwagon. Then we can know straight up whether it works, doesnt work or partially work. So, any volunteers?
There have been no official trials of ACell on humans for scarring. Thus there are no real results (good or bad) for the media to frenzy over.
I'll echo whoever put the sentiments out there regarding the lack of knowledge possessed by many, if not most, dermatologists regarding scarring. I was trying to find a doctor who performed dermabrasion locally, I probably have called about 15-20 dermatologists and about half of them have asked me what that is.
Anyone find any doctors who will perform this?