3 hours ago, CollegeKidd said:Well this is good news about Sunogel. I love how Dr. Sun used the words "regenerate PERFECT skin", something that Polarity has failed to ever mention.
I would like to help Dr sun, because I believe in his product. It is necessary to contribute at its popularity. Otherwise concerning Polarity had aspired at first to a "scarless Healing". furthermore, in their advantage he was write "no scarring" Even if it was on a pig at this moment.
https://www.polarityte.com/news-media/press-releases/detail/406/polaritytetm-regenerates-full-thickness-hair-bearing-skin .
1 hour ago, Anish004 said:sometime i dream if human have capacity to regenerate......ahhh
Humans have some ability to regenerate. Our organs regenerate all the time. Skin regenerates every 27 days. Red blood cells regenerate every 28 days or so. Bones will regenerate within 10 years.
The problem that humans, mammals or birds have is that our cells are too complex so when damage happens, the structures that promote regeneration are lost. The damage will be repaired by scarring which is a trade off. Scarring is a faster repair mechanism to reduce infection.
However broken bones do regenerate, the liver can regenerate to 2/3 of its original size if damaged and kidneys have some ability to regenerate as well. Another interesting fact is that if you lose one kidney, the other one will grow twice in size without scarring to compensate. Also minor cuts heal without leaving a trade behind. Also if you remove part of lower rib cage, it will regenerate. Even young kids who lose a tip of a finger will regenerate the tip without scarring. Believe me it has happened to me, I had sliced off the tip of my finger when 3 and it grew back. Damaged nails also grow back.
3 hours ago, slave of jesus said:I would like to help Dr sun, because I believe in his product. It is necessary to contribute at its popularity. Otherwise concerning Polarity had aspired at first to a "scarless Healing". furthermore, in their advantage he was write "no scarring" Even if it was on a pig at this moment.
https://www.polarityte.com/news-media/press-releases/detail/406/polaritytetm-regenerates-full-thickness-hair-bearing-skin .
I would like to see how Sunogel works. Does it mean they would need to cut out existing scars and then apply Sunogel?
12 hours ago, Anonymouz1 said:Humans have some ability to regenerate. Our organs regenerate all the time. Skin regenerates every 27 days. Red blood cells regenerate every 28 days or so. Bones will regenerate within 10 years.The problem that humans, mammals or birds have is that our cells are too complex so when damage happens, the structures that promote regeneration are lost. The damage will be repaired by scarring which is a trade off. Scarring is a faster repair mechanism to reduce infection.
However broken bones do regenerate, the liver can regenerate to 2/3 of its original size if damaged and kidneys have some ability to regenerate as well. Another interesting fact is that if you lose one kidney, the other one will grow twice in size without scarring to compensate. Also minor cuts heal without leaving a trade behind. Also if you remove part of lower rib cage, it will regenerate. Even young kids who lose a tip of a finger will regenerate the tip without scarring. Believe me it has happened to me, I had sliced off the tip of my finger when 3 and it grew back. Damaged nails also grow back.
I would like to see how Sunogel works. Does it mean they would need to cut out existing scars and then apply Sunogel?
i messaged sunogel many times but cant get a perfect reply from them ..can anybody tell the progress of sunogel
I wouldnt bother to answer questions like that myself. If you contact a person you dont know at least write in a professional way. If you dont even bother to write complete sentences what kind of impression do you think you make on Dr. Sun. I know for sure he answers others around here.
4 hours ago, nikkigirl said:In the future....medical science will hopefully prevent acne in the first place....so your skin doesn't scar in the first place.
They are getting there. There's seems to be an acne vaccine in clinical trials now. It targets the toxins released by P.acnes which seems to cause the inflammation. P. acnes proliferates on the sebum produced by our sweat glands. Apparently the bacteria itself is not an issue but the toxins it produced and causes our bodies to go to overdrive. Some of us have the bad strain types and our skin can't adjust to the toxic bacterial waste. It responds with inflammation and attacks P.acnes thus creating cysts and nodules. The dermatologist working on the vaccine is Eric Huang.
From what I read, it won't prevent blackheads and whiteheads from forming because both are created from sebum clogging the pores. The vaccine is made in an attempt to stop cysts and nodules from forming because P.acnes feeds on that sebum which clogs the pores. Now we all know that whiteheads and blackheads do not leave scars behind unless it's a really big blackhead which leaves behind an enlarged pore.
The vaccine worked in human and pig skin samples in labs. Take it for what it's worth. I do know for a fact that pigs don't get acne. I have seen acne on dogs and cats however. They claim 2020 will be the target release year.
On 24.11.2017 at 11:42 PM, CollegeKidd said:Sunogel should just team up with a local hospital and plastic surgeon to test their product. Wouldn't it be that simple?
I have no idea, but probably not that simple. Or else he must have been doing it already?
One should think that there was at least ONE multi-millionaire with acne scars that was dedicated to get them removed. I keep wondering if a person like that would get it done.
3 hours ago, Frasier said:I have no idea, but probably not that simple. Or else he must have been doing it already?One should think that there was at least ONE multi-millionaire with acne scars that was dedicated to get them removed. I keep wondering if a person like that would get it done.
They simply remove it with the methods that already exist... it is not impossible, just find a good specialist and pay alot. You can improve ALL scars to more than 90% it just takes money.
9 hours ago, Duperele said:13 hours ago, Frasier said:I have no idea, but probably not that simple. Or else he must have been doing it already?One should think that there was at least ONE multi-millionaire with acne scars that was dedicated to get them removed. I keep wondering if a person like that would get it done.
They simply remove it with the methods that already exist... it is not impossible, just find a good specialist and pay alot. You can improve ALL scars to more than 90% it just takes money.
yeah you can definitely get at leas an 80 percent improvement making scars a non issue if you get all the right procedures that already exist: fat grafting, fillers, TCA, the right lasers, dermabrasion. That's definitely not an issue.
I tried to buy some polarity stocks but my order somehow never seems to get filled lol.
I know right now it is overvalued because the company has not make any profits yet but I am just putting in a small amount $1k USD
that I can afford to lose. I just want to support and be a shareholder of this company.
I tried to buy some polarity stocks but my order somehow never seems to get filled lol.
I know right now it is overvalued because the company has not make any profits yet but I am just putting in a small amount $1k USD
that I can afford to lose. I just want to support and be a shareholder of this company.
23 hours ago, SimpleMutton said:If Sunogel still has to go through clinical trials, it's at least 6-8 years away before reaching market release
I really hope it's a misunderstanding or we can forget to have it before 2025
They don'thaveto go through clinical trials. Sunogel is choosing to in order to prove the efficacy of the product and attract investment. Also, it wouldn't take 6-8 years because it's a class 2 device. It would be a pilot trial, just like Polarity is doing with SkinTE, that would probably run around half a year. In the meantime, Sunogel could get FDA approval concurrently and go straight to market.
Not as exciting as PolarityTE/Sunogel, but could possibly be much simpler to apply as it is apparently topical:
https://technology.inquirer.net/69592/korean-scientists-discover-potential-cure-baldness
Although it tackles baldness in that article, there's also a line that says:
QuoteThis newly developed substance is a first-in-class drug candidate. It is expected to become a treatment for not only hair loss and baldness but also for regenerating damaged skin tissue,Choi explained.
Here is the document explaining more about CXXC5 (highly technical), which they are trying to counteract.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xt6XRa2Hdu1RX-65ZeKFcEfsxQ4ajxNh/view
I understand Sunogel and Polarity wanting to conduct trials.. but considering this is such an important issue to so many people, and there is certainly a sense of urgency in the world for such a problem (scarring).. these companies should take the absolute fastest route imaginable. If their products work, it will be evident in before and after pictures. They don't need to run trials to prove their product works to people for investment money. If will be clear as soon as the first person is shown to have scar-free skin after using their products and then the money coming in from investors will skyrocket and media coverage will explode tremendously. Sunogel and/or Polarity could end up making BILLIONS OF DOLLARS because this news will absolutely CHANGE THE ENTIRE WORLD. This is HISTORY IN THE MAKING. REVOLUTIONARY IN MEDICINE AND THE FUNCTIONS OF HUMAN BODIES. How are these people just taking their sweet time when they have a gold mine in their hands????
My only hope is SkinTE
They said next year there will be a wider commercial release but they didn't specify if they intended to use the product just for burn victims or also for acne scars patients. If they plan to use it for acne scars too, I would fly to the US as soon as the product is made available and would drop 20,000/30,000$ in a heartbeat to have my acne scars disappear for good.
38 minutes ago, SimpleMutton said:My only hope is SkinTE
They said next year there will be a wider commercial release but they didn't specify if they intended to use the product just for burn victims or also for acne scars patients. If they plan to use it for acne scars too, I would fly to the US as soon as the product is made available and would drop 20,000/30,000$ in a heartbeat to have my acne scars disappear for good.
they said they are developing a derivative product of skinte for the revision of smaller scars like acne scars etc
http://www.ibtimes.com/hair-loss-treatment-coming-south-korean-scientists-develop-drug-cure-balding-2620448 - Something decent has to be around the corner with all the research going on.
3 hours ago, damnBOY said:3 hours ago, SimpleMutton said:My only hope is SkinTE
They said next year there will be a wider commercial release but they didn't specify if they intended to use the product just for burn victims or also for acne scars patients. If they plan to use it for acne scars too, I would fly to the US as soon as the product is made available and would drop 20,000/30,000$ in a heartbeat to have my acne scars disappear for good.
they said they are developing a derivative product of skinte for the revision of smaller scars like acne scars etc
Yes but if it's in the "development stage" I guess it's still years away (even without having to go through trials)....hope to be wrong of course
And my scars are so bad (especially in the back/shoulders) that they aren't that different than burn scars....anyway it's our only hope
I'm 27yo and I can't take off my t-shirt because of the scars and couldn't do it for years....my life has been ruined because of it. I can't wait other years to get a derivative product purposefully developed for smaller acne scars....that's why I hope they decide to also use SkinTE for acne scars.
I'm not claiming burn victims don't deserve to be treated first, but restricting a (potentially) amazing product to treat just one kind of scars when it could treat all it's a bit selfish in my opinion.
There are some people with acne scars so bad that suffer just as much as burn victims
4 hours ago, SimpleMutton said:Yes but if it's in the "development stage" I guess it's still years away (even without having to go through trials)....hope to be wrong of course
And my scars are so bad (especially in the back/shoulders) that they aren't that different than burn scars....anyway it's our only hopeI'm 27yo and I can't take off my t-shirt because of the scars and couldn't do it for years....my life has been ruined because of it. I can't wait other years to get a derivative product purposefully developed for smaller acne scars....that's why I hope they decide to also use SkinTE for acne scars.
I'm not claiming burn victims don't deserve to be treated first, but restricting a (potentially) amazing product to treat just one kind of scars when it could treat all it's a bit selfish in my opinion.
There are some people with acne scars so bad that suffer just as much as burn victims
Yeah my back is also scarred thanks to cystic acne or in my case acne conglobata. It may not be as bad as your situation, I guess you must of developed keloids. However, every acne spot on my shoulders & back has practically left me with thousands of white raised scars that look as if someone threw droplets of acid on my skin. Also, I have some pretty bad raised scars from some unfortunate accident. Fortunately, my facial acne left me with very small superficial dents that are barely noticeable.
Restricting a potentially great product to regenerate scarred skin is upsetting.
5 hours ago, 36512 said:http://www.ibtimes.com/hair-loss-treatment-coming-south-korean-scientists-develop-drug-cure-balding-2620448 - Something decent has to be around the corner with all the research going on.
They have Rogaine or Minoxydyl already. Both seem to be very potent drugs meaning they come with a wide range of side effects just like Accutane. If the hair loss is in the beginning phase, the hair grows back using those drugs. Some of us are lucky and have been blessed with a good head of hair because having acne, acne scarring and baldness or the trio would just mean we must of done something to frustrate mother nature.
18 hours ago, SimpleMutton said:My only hope is SkinTE
They said next year there will be a wider commercial release but they didn't specify if they intended to use the product just for burn victims or also for acne scars patients. If they plan to use it for acne scars too, I would fly to the US as soon as the product is made available and would drop 20,000/30,000$ in a heartbeat to have my acne scars disappear for good.
Same. Money doesn't mean anything (Well it means something but not necessarily happiness) I just wish for this nightmare to end.
On 11/29/2017 at 4:31 AM, CollegeKidd said:I understand Sunogel and Polarity wanting to conduct trials.. but considering this is such an important issue to so many people, and there is certainly a sense of urgency in the world for such a problem (scarring).. these companies should take the absolute fastest route imaginable. If their products work, it will be evident in before and after pictures. They don't need to run trials to prove their product works to people for investment money. If will be clear as soon as the first person is shown to have scar-free skin after using their products and then the money coming in from investors will skyrocket and media coverage will explode tremendously. Sunogel and/or Polarity could end up making BILLIONS OF DOLLARS because this news will absolutely CHANGE THE ENTIRE WORLD. This is HISTORY IN THE MAKING. REVOLUTIONARY IN MEDICINE AND THE FUNCTIONS OF HUMAN BODIES. How are these people just taking their sweet time when they have a gold mine in their hands????
Scarring isn't on the list of the world's problems....maybe for us though. The company can't just release without a lot of testing. It might get rid of scarring but 10 years down the line it might cause skin cancer or other side effects. CollegeKidd...you are getting your hopes up too high only to get probably a let down. We have had laser,isologen,fillers ect that have not done much for scarring. I have just not seen any results yet..until then i am a skeptic.