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17 minutes ago, Frasier said:You have already promised this several times before.. I understand Tano 100%, and have stated many times that people with your attitude ruin this message board with their false statements.
You need to chill out and stop attacking people personally. Many people are skeptical about all this scarless healing craze that scientists have been promising for years. There are many out there who feel emotional pain from acne and acne scarring. I have warned you before to stop attacking people personally. People have every right to be skeptical and pessimistic as long as concrete evidence is not seen.
22 hours ago, Anonymouz1 said:22 hours ago, Frasier said:You have already promised this several times before.. I understand Tano 100%, and have stated many times that people with your attitude ruin this message board with their false statements.You need to chill out and stop attacking people personally. Many people are skeptical about all this scarless healing craze that scientists have been promising for years. There are many out there who feel emotional pain from acne and acne scarring. I have warned you before to stop attacking people personally. People have every right to be skeptical and pessimistic as long as concrete evidence is not seen.
It's not an attack, it is simply pointing out that this is not the place to talk about your emotional pain and problems. There is an own message board for that: https://www.acne.org/messageboard/forum/10-emotional-and-psychological-effects-of-acne/
When informative people like Tano1 stops posting here (look a bit up) because of emotional posts that ruin constructive disussion it certainly is a problem. And you warned me? That is an example of attacking people. Look at your self, not me.
**Reminder From MOD:
Anyone is allowed to post in any acne.org forum threads, posters here are adding their own experiences and being constructive with this world views, thoughts, and ideas. Acne scars are more than data, they are draining on the person, there have been many false flags of cures, devices, and the next best thing.
Tano said above he will offer data freely (research). I would advise someone here to follow him on the method he mentions, which is free to everyone, then they can come here and update or discuss.
It was also advised previously if you do not want to post publicly where all members are free to comment, you have private group chats.
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Control Panel - Senior Moderator - PostedSeptember 25
Hi, guys
Warning(s) were sent out with respect to this controversy. However, this is a friendly warning to all that unhealthy argument should not persist in this thread, e.g., using words like "retarded." Future conflicts may result in temporary suspension of this thread, so please let's be careful. Thank you
The point of why the thread was locked was because of insults and things getting heated. Things needed to cool down.
I repeat everyone is allowed to post here. If the posters have a different world view than you,... or if they are a glass half-full, prove it to me type of person and your a optimist, all views are welcome. Ignore those who offend you. Another option is to have a private PM group chat. This is a public space. Perfectly ok to debate (differing)facts, but not personal insults.
I will run your feedback by the Senior MODs
Thanks,
BA
Getting back on topic, saw this on Ars Technica:
Of course, this is different from acne scars, but maybe can be modified in the future for acne scars?
I had a dream that I went for a treatment to get rid of my acne scars and it regenerated back scarlessly. The last time I had dreams about specific events, it really happened in reality. Once in the past, I dreamt my family members in a raging storm with very fast winds. Few months later my sis went overseas to a city where a typhoon happened to passed by. There were a few other dream events I had that happened in real life. So for what is worth if you believe in my psychic abilities, scarless healing is here, maybe very soon like next year.
2 hours ago, AI3forever said:I had a dream that I went for a treatment to get rid of my acne scars and it regenerated back scarlessly. The last time I had dreams about specific events, it really happened in reality. Once in the past, I dreamt my family members in a raging storm with very fast winds. Few months later my sis went overseas to a city where a typhoon happened to passed by. There were a few other dream events I had that happened in real life. So for what is worth if you believe in my psychic abilities, scarless healing is here, maybe very soon like next year.
LOL, hope it turns out to be true mate!
I dont want to defend any insults, but thats human instinct, we are emotional, if we wasnt we wouldnt be on this thread, I think suspended or temp restraints all it does is kill the conservation we all seek, if ppl are immature and using fowl language those individuals should be private message or suspended but all other users who are eager to post relevant information get discourage when a suspension or moderaters intervene such a way, thats why its a bit cold
@TOPNIKE14Thank You I will let @Control PanelKnow your feedback, he is extremely busy this week and will respond when he can and clarify what he means.
" Just my personal observations and feelings."
I think the Senior Mods mean,... you can start a new (fresh start) post that is not 332 pages long and make it your own (subject) if this thread is closed. The topic is not dead. Of course they will deal with any issues on a personal basis. I know it's not just one or two people with issue there were those taking sides, reporting, and calling names. I know there is a lot of emotion in this topic, for obvious reasons.
Completely ignore those who have different world views. Or If anyone disagrees they do it in a considerate manner without name calling (just use facts). Private Message the Person, or have us get involved by reporting. There is a fair behind the scenes MODs have to deal with and some difficult decisions.
It seems like there is some sensitive and raw emotional responses. This is probably the largest post on the website which distracts from the current message and intent often (History, posting roles, loss of ideas among may pages, differing directions, communication that is lost in a text only forum). There is also a bunch of helpful people and great resources in this post.
Carry On The Discussion or Start a New One , We are not here to stop the research / sharing 🙂
BA
how exciting could this be if perfected!!??
Yeah guys let's revive this thread because it gives us all hope. I admit I've been too hasty in my dismissals at times and I apologize. We should be vigilant and hopeful but also not just swallow everything some company's PR issues forth. We are after all capable of decent critical debate and discussion without ad hominem attacks. So in the spirit of optmism, let's keep the positive news coming!
Don't lock this thread....we are going for the world's record for longest thread ever....something we don't want because we all want scarless healing.....i hope it happens but i am still not optimistic about it. Hope it is affordable too. Lot of lost souls here that would help their self confidence if we finally get scarless healing.
22 hours ago, golfpanther said:The last news I got from Sunogel was that they were trying to move forward to clinical. It wasn't clear if that meant a trial or as a product to use in hospitals or doctors' offices.
Hello I am relatively new to thid threas but I contacted sunogel and the conversation was the following:
TUE 3:59AM
TUE 8:56AM
1 hour ago, Ps93 said:Hello I am relatively new to thid threas but I contacted sunogel and the conversation was the following:
Dear sir I would like to know if your technology is planned to be applied on acne scars for scar free healing and what is the time scale of this application.Also does your company sell shares?TUE 3:59AM
Thank you for your message! We plan on regeneration of perfect skin on either pre-existing scars and acute wounds. We haven™t tried on acne yet, but we assume it is supposed to help skin regeneration on acne as well.TUE 8:56AM
Welcome to the thread! Good news indeed. Dr. Sun is always extremely responsive and yes, it should works on all types of scarring. The question (and PolarityTE has stated this as well) if it will be considered too invasive a procedure for acne scars. However, I think if the doctor performing the procedure knows the impact the scars have on the patient they would likely do it. Also, I'm sure the hydrogel and SkinTE will be modified for the types of scars most people have on here. PolarityTE actually confirmed that with someone on this thread for their product.
Sunogel isn't publicly traded (as of yet anyway) so you wouldn't be able to buy shares. I reached to Dr. Sun yesterday about investment and collaboration possibilities (their marketing and website needs a lot of work) and he's going to get back to me once he's done traveling.
6 hours ago, SisyphusSlips said:I have a speculative theory that perhaps Sunogel can be used in conjunction with PolarityTE once both products have been approved for cosmetic applications. E.g - Once the patient has undergone the procedure to remove/ablatepre-existing scar tissue (micro-needling, dermabrasion, Fraxel/Co2 laser, RF frequency, or TCA cross) The autologous PolarityTE paste is then applied to the exposed wound site to proliferate full thickness dermal layers. At some stage during the PolarityTE healing process, Sunogel is then applied to the wound site allowing for additional healing and strengthening the top layer of the epidermis forming near-perfect skin texture.
In my case I have several moderate boxcar scars, enlarged pores, hyper-pigmentation,and sun damage ( I live in Australia) so the scar removal procedure will not be as invasive. I have not yet attempted any scar treatments as I am concerned that I may cause further damage and the margin of improvement does not seem worth it at this current stage. In the mean time i'm investing my faith into the scientists at PolarityTE and Sunogel and saving cash to facilitate the procedures. I would gladly pay $50,000 to achieve a 90% improvement
I'm not sure you would need both since they have independently gotten the same results. Plus, with two competing companies like this I doubt there would be a scenario where they'd collaborate to know if the two products helped achieve better results. I could be wrong (and I hope I am), but in particular with PolarityTE being publicly traded it doesn't seem like something that would be signed off on by their board or shareholders.
Both have formed perfectly regenerated skin with appendages in pigs and both have expressed their belief that their respective treatment will do the same for humans. SkinTE does have the margin where the new skin and bordering skin show an irregularity, but as Swanson pointed out, it's imperceptible without a microscope and knowing what you're looking for.
Let's hope both come out soon after successful pilot runs and we have our choice.
On 11/23/2017 at 9:01 AM, golfpanther said:I'm not sure you would need both since they have independently gotten the same results. Plus, with two competing companies like this I doubt there would be a scenario where they'd collaborate to know if the two products helped achieve better results. I could be wrong (and I hope I am), but in particular with PolarityTE being publicly traded it doesn't seem like something that would be signed off on by their board or shareholders.
Both have formed perfectly regenerated skin with appendages in pigs and both have expressed their belief that their respective treatment will do the same for humans. SkinTE does have the margin where the new skin and bordering skin show an irregularity, but as Swanson pointed out, it's imperceptible without a microscope and knowing what you're looking for.
Let's hope both come out soon after successful pilot runs and we have our choice.