I've been keeping quiet. All this discussion is useless. Guys, look at this, this guy can improve scars 90 percent through different modalities. The guy is a genius of fixing scarring. So relax, just go see him. There's no way Polarity will be able to do the same. Just think about it. You need subcision, filler, derma rolling, stem cells. This will fix your scars.

2 hours ago, Rez77 said:

I've been keeping quiet. All this discussion is useless. Guys, look at this, this guy can improve scars 90 percent through different modalities. The guy is a genius of fixing scarring. So relax, just go see him. There's no way Polarity will be able to do the same. Just think about it. You need subcision, filler, derma rolling, stem cells. This will fix your scars.

Impressive that's for sure, but not quite what most of us are looking for.

2 hours ago, Rez77 said:

I've been keeping quiet. All this discussion is useless. Guys, look at this, this guy can improve scars 90 percent through different modalities. The guy is a genius of fixing scarring. So relax, just go see him. There's no way Polarity will be able to do the same. Just think about it. You need subcision, filler, derma rolling, stem cells. This will fix your scars.

I've seen a majority of his videos and he is informative. All of the treatments he mentioned can definitely give you great improvement on your scars if done under the right hands. I can attest to micro-needling myself as giving you noticeable improvements. Has to be done properly though depending on your scar type as well.

I don't think it's fair to say Polarity can't produce improvement or better just because these are the current present time treatments. They have no relation whatsoever to most of the obstacles Polarity faces because they're using different methodologies. They're not approaching skin through the same perspective as those who utilize these treatments. They're trying to move on to the future.

It's a win/win really because you can also look at it from your own point of view and still see the grass is green. "There's no way Polarity will be able to do the same." That's completely fine to think that. What you could do then is forget about Polarity and dismiss them entirely as a failure and then focus on the current present time treatments that can give great improvements such as shown in the video. If you get those treatments right now and aren't happy at the end of it all, then you still have the research for skin regeneration (the future) to hope for.

I can see the grass is green on my side as well. I believe it's achievable so I can just vote for Polarity being successful and at the end of it all if they failed then at least I have current present time treatments that I can seek. Although I'm fine with just micro-needling already and can live with my scar as it is now.

Either way you look at it everyone's fine. An educational discussion isn't useless to me. Even if Polarity failed, I am at the very least more educated in the area of skin and scarring. I now know of the 3 layers and the appendages housed in each layer as well as the cell functions in wounded, scarred and normal skin. Expanding more on that I now know more about hair follicles and their functions as well since they reside within the dermal layer of the skin. I know about Wnt signaling pathways and Bone Morphogenetic Proteins and Adipocytes and so on. Perhaps that's why my view is different than some of the people in here. I enjoy researching not just skin, but anything in general the peaks my interest.

By the way, and I'll say this again.. instead of perpetuating the idea of how scar-free healing isn't real, let's claim that it's here and do everything we can to spread the message and contact people and make things happen. The more we deliberate about how it will be here in X amount of years, the more we're just hurting ourselves.

Let's be proactive people!

10 minutes ago, CollegeKidd said:

By the way, and I'll say this again.. instead of perpetuating the idea of how scar-free healing isn't real, let's claim that it's here and do everything we can to spread the message and contact people and make things happen. The more we deliberate about how it will be here in X amount of years, the more we're just hurting ourselves.

Let's be proactive people!

As much as I would want that to be true, I also wouldn't be able to agree. Even if Polarity succeeds, they make it clear that a "margin" which is just a less scarier term they used for "scar" will be an end result. It's whether or not the margin will be visible that will determine just how effective it will be regarding cosmetic appearance. We can say it's invisible or even say their pictures show the margin under magnification, but it's just not a 100% done deal until they release the human trial results. If I am shown images of humans with burn wounds as well as their results after receiving the SkinTE construct and those results show no visible marker or a hard to distinguish marker, then I will claim that the future is here. They are registered for commercialization already so that means they have at the very least succeeded in one area. We'll know the rest soon.

43 minutes ago, Tano1 said:

As much as I would want that to be true, I also wouldn't be able to agree. Even if Polarity succeeds, they make it clear that a "margin" which is just a less scarier term they used for "scar" will be an end result. It's whether or not the margin will be visible that will determine just how effective it will be regarding cosmetic appearance. We can say it's invisible or even say their pictures show the margin under magnification, but it's just not a 100% done deal until they release the human trial results. If I am shown images of humans with burn wounds as well as their results after receiving the SkinTE construct and those results show no visible marker or a hard to distinguish marker, then I will claim that the future is here. They are registered for commercialization already so that means they have at the very least succeeded in one area. We'll know the rest soon.

Even if they are unable to not get a scar in full thickness skin from a third degree burn, they might be able to achieve that in less severe scarring? They should test on multiple types of scarring not just third degree burns.

6 hours ago, CollegeKidd said:

Even if they are unable to not get a scar in full thickness skin from a third degree burn, they might be able to achieve that in less severe scarring? They should test on multiple types of scarring not just third degree burns.

If the scarring isn't visible, then true scar free healing doesn't even need to be achieved in skin at least. Most of the skin conditions are only cosmetic defects that are sought to be corrected. It doesn't physically impair someone unless you have something like severe burns. So as long as SkinTE produces a scar small enough to be virtually seamless, nobody dealing with any type of scar is going to complain.

Just like the automobile progressed, this too can be advanced for skin regeneration.

They will be exploring entry into other markets and they've already stated that way before the big news they recently released. So they will explore cosmetic/scar revisions and even hair regeneration to market for that as well. They need to succeed in the burn market first.

11 hours ago, Tano1 said:

If the scarring isn't visible, then true scar free healing doesn't even need to be achieved in skin at least. Most of the skin conditions are only cosmetic defects that are sought to be corrected. It doesn't physically impair someone unless you have something like severe burns. So as long as SkinTE produces a scar small enough to be virtually seamless, nobody dealing with any type of scar is going to complain.

Just like the automobile progressed, this too can be advanced for skin regeneration.

They will be exploring entry into other markets and they've already stated that way before the big news they recently released. So they will explore cosmetic/scar revisions and even hair regeneration to market for that as well. They need to succeed in the burn market first.

I get it. But if they would test on acne scars, keloid scars, surgery scars, discolored skin, sun damage, skin abrasions or any other damage on your skin they might be able to achieve scar-free healing in situations like that. The idea of achieving scar-free healing in third degree burns sounds way more difficult than other types of scarring. They regenerated skin in full thickness third degree burns, and that's amazing. But clearly their focus isn't on growing back skin without a scar, it's on skin regeneration (which I'm starting to realize, is different from scar-free healing) or else they would not be solely testing it on the most difficult of skin conditions (third degree burns).

this is all just speculation and hearsay and broscience till we find out how this technology even works and when human trials results are in. Till then I just see the company on a major PR grab to gain funds. Sorry, that's the reality so far. SO I'm not gonna imagine scar free healing is HERE when I know for sure as all evidence supports, IT IS NOT.

15 hours ago, CollegeKidd said:

I get it. But if they would test on acne scars, keloid scars, surgery scars, discolored skin, sun damage, skin abrasions or any other damage on your skin they might be able to achieve scar-free healing in situations like that.

They will get to that because they said they would. You have to be a little patient though. Think about the time it took to develop the technology and acquire all that information on cell functions and possible factors of regeneration. They can't do it all overnight. They're employing more and more people as you've seen on their news releases from their site. We're already beyond lucky that they bypassed the FDA phase trials. The safety and efficacy phase can be 3-5 years long and that's just 1 phase out of the usual 3. You have to also consider that they may just market for scars as is. If it's nearly scarless and the results are "virtually seamless" as was said, then why would you need true scar free regeneration? For internal scars that would be great, but the majority of the skin market is just cosmetic. The main concern with acne scars, surgical scars, pits, ice-pick, stretch marks, etc... is that they are visible and noticeable. If they regenerate 95-99% of the skin and make the margin un-noticeable, I would be happy with that.

15 hours ago, CollegeKidd said:

But clearly their focus isn't on growing back skin without a scar,

They've worked with burn victims and they've all seen the physical and emotional impact that burns can cause. They aren't going to delay a lifesaving product because they encountered a small obstacle called a margin. If you had the chance to save many lives right now wouldn't you just do so asap? You are right their priority was saving the lives of burn victims; however, they do care about scars on. Watch the recent video they've posted on YouTube. The CEO himself says they want to be able to walk into a grocery store and not see the scar, but the person. They absolutely stated they will "explore" entry into other markets such as cosmetic/scar revision. They do want to fix skin defects even if it's just cosmetic which is what we have. A cosmetically undesirable skin defect. Have to wait on those pictures. Just let the results be published and then we can go from there.

9 hours ago, Rez77 said:

this is all just speculation and hearsay and broscience till we find out how this technology even works and when human trials results are in. Till then I just see the company on a major PR grab to gain funds. Sorry, that's the reality so far. SO I'm not gonna imagine scar free healing is HERE when I know for sure as all evidence supports, IT IS NOT.

Mkay.

Ehhh, what's up doc?

11 hours ago, Tano1 said:

They will get to that because they said they would. You have to be a little patient though. Think about the time it took to develop the technology and acquire all that information on cell functions and possible factors of regeneration. They can't do it all overnight. They're employing more and more people as you've seen on their news releases from their site. We're already beyond lucky that they bypassed the FDA phase trials. The safety and efficacy phase can be 3-5 years long and that's just 1 phase out of the usual 3. You have to also consider that they may just market for scars as is. If it's nearly scarless and the results are "virtually seamless" as was said, then why would you need true scar free regeneration? For internal scars that would be great, but the majority of the skin market is just cosmetic. The main concern with acne scars, surgical scars, pits, ice-pick, stretch marks, etc... is that they are visible and noticeable. If they regenerate 95-99% of the skin and make the margin un-noticeable, I would be happy with that.

They've worked with burn victims and they've all seen the physical and emotional impact that burns can cause. They aren't going to delay a lifesaving product because they encountered a small obstacle called a margin. If you had the chance to save many lives right now wouldn't you just do so asap? You are right their priority was saving the lives of burn victims; however, they do care about scars on. Watch the recent video they've posted on YouTube. The CEO himself says they want to be able to walk into a grocery store and not see the scar, but the person. They absolutely stated they will "explore" entry into other markets such as cosmetic/scar revision. They do want to fix skin defects even if it's just cosmetic which is what we have. A cosmetically undesirable skin defect. Have to wait on those pictures. Just let the results be published and then we can go from there.

I understand. It's just disappointing to me if their focus isn't on scars. I can't even imagine what burn victims feel like, and I'm sure their last worry is "omg I hope I don't have any scars at all." But that's my worry right now, I want my scars gone so I can finally be at peace with my skin once and for all.
Clearly, PolarityTE has solved burn victims' problems, which is AMAZING. But I don't understand why these other companies, such as Sunogel, and every other skin regeneration experiment, starts on animals with third degree burns. Burn victims problems are solved thanks to PolarityTE. Other companies should be focusing on solving a different problem, scarring. Not every person with scars has a third degree burn. They should try their methods on less severe forms of scars. PolarityTE has burn victims covered. Other companies should immediately start targeting acne scarring, etc. At least if they were smart.

2 hours ago, CollegeKidd said:

I understand. It's just disappointing to me if their focus isn't on scars. I can't even imagine what burn victims feel like, and I'm sure their last worry is "omg I hope I don't have any scars at all." But that's my worry right now, I want my scars gone so I can finally be at peace with my skin once and for all.
Clearly, PolarityTE has solved burn victims' problems, which is AMAZING. But I don't understand why these other companies, such as Sunogel, and every other skin regeneration experiment, starts on animals with third degree burns. Burn victims problems are solved thanks to PolarityTE. Other companies should be focusing on solving a different problem, scarring. Not every person with scars has a third degree burn. They should try their methods on less severe forms of scars. PolarityTE has burn victims covered. Other companies should immediately start targeting acne scarring, etc. At least if they were smart.

Sorry could you link me to the evidence where it shows that they've solved Burn victims problems. I haven't seen any evidence. I haven't even seen evidence or published reports of ANY human trials on HUMAN burn victims or not. Even that tech isn't here RIGHT NOW.

it is very important we keep highlighting the standard is 'scar free healing' not 'percentage improvements.' It needs to be known scar free healing is here. If people keep propagating it is elusive they will use it later instead of sooner.Here the subject is " scarless Healing no " improvement of scar " if you want speak about improvement, there is others subject for that

2 hours ago, Rez77 said:

4 hours ago, CollegeKidd said:

I understand. It's just disappointing to me if their focus isn't on scars. I can't even imagine what burn victims feel like, and I'm sure their last worry is "omg I hope I don't have any scars at all." But that's my worry right now, I want my scars gone so I can finally be at peace with my skin once and for all.
Clearly, PolarityTE has solved burn victims' problems, which is AMAZING. But I don't understand why these other companies, such as Sunogel, and every other skin regeneration experiment, starts on animals with third degree burns. Burn victims problems are solved thanks to PolarityTE. Other companies should be focusing on solving a different problem, scarring. Not every person with scars has a third degree burn. They should try their methods on less severe forms of scars. PolarityTE has burn victims covered. Other companies should immediately start targeting acne scarring, etc. At least if they were smart.

Sorry could you link me to the evidence where it shows that they've solved Burn victims problems. I haven't seen any evidence. I haven't even seen evidence or published reports of ANY human trials on HUMAN burn victims or not. Even that tech isn't here RIGHT NOW.

I've watched the Youtube video of PolarityTE which I'm assuming was filmed during or after clinical trials in humans, although I'm not positive. Regardless, they seem pretty confident in their efforts and have plans to market their product. I personally, truly do believe in PolartyTE's ability to regenerate human skin for burn victims- We just won't know how much of a scar is left until they release human results and pictures. Unfortunately, I don't think scar-free healing is PolarityTE's focus at the moment. I could be wrong, but it's the uncertainty of everything that's the most frustrating part.

1 hour ago, slave of jesus said:

it is very important we keep highlighting the standard is 'scar free healing' not 'percentage improvements.' It needs to be known scar free healing is here. If people keep propagating it is elusive they will use it later instead of sooner.Here the subject is " scarless Healing no " improvement of scar " if you want speak about improvement, there is others subject for that

I know. I just wish it were here, here. Like, available for human use. The waiting is excruciating, and if PolarityTE's focus is only on burn victims at the moment, it could be a while until less severe scarring is addressed. That's why I wish other companies would not test on burn scars and focus on less severe skin conditions.

Dr sun have successful the exploit of regenerate a pig skin perfectly, it seems to me? he could very well do it for the acne scars and on the human
Furthermore, polarity have said they will start into the revision cosmetic /scars. If their technology works on burns

27 minutes ago, slave of jesus said:

Dr sun have successful the exploit of regenerate a pig skin perfectly, it seems to me? he could very well do it for the acne scars and on the human
Furthermore, polarity have said they will start into the revision cosmetic /scars. If their technology works on burns

I sometimes think maybe we are too naive for having scar free skin again

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I'm praying for the best. I'm just so tired of waiting.

On 10/12/2017 at 7:25 AM, Rez77 said:

this is all just speculation and hearsay and broscience till we find out how this technology even works and when human trials results are in. Till then I just see the company on a major PR grab to gain funds. Sorry, that's the reality so far. SO I'm not gonna imagine scar free healing is HERE when I know for sure as all evidence supports, IT IS NOT.

I agree with you. I have a feeling this company is all for show just like many other ones before them. Unfortunately, I was personally attacked for stating the obvious by other members of this forum.

Don't hold your luck. When they manage to grow a full leg for amputees than I do believe scarless healing will be amongst us. I do believe in 20 years from now, this will be achieved. They have succesfully regenerated human organs in labs. I have read how they succesfully regenerated vaginas for girls born without them. Few years later, those girls who got them have normal functioning vaginas.

SkinTE might as well be the start of something new and amazing: regenerative medicine. They claim to have regenerated skin in pigs for third degree burns. Anyways, there's no photos yet on human skin yet they claim that human trials are supposed to be underway. Anyways, let's wait till December to see.

As for now, we are all in the same boat. Our facial or body pits and hypertrophic scarring from acne are reminders of our problematic skin.

It would just be simpler in finding better ways to cure not treat acne without the need of potent drugs and antibiotics.

The CEO recently announced the product can reduce scarring up to 60% if used properly.. awesome finding

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6 hours ago, JohnRottenSkin said:

Where did you get it?
really cannot find anything about. Is it from plastic surgeon meeting? Can you give us a link?

7 hours ago, rudy1986 said:

The CEO recently announced the product can reduce scarring up to 60% if used properly.. awesome finding

HAHAHHA god you make me laugh dude. Do you not understand what PR and marketing is to get funding? First, if this was a true scarless healing it wouldn't just improve just 60 percent. Dermatologists using lasers and PRP and shit claim 80-90 percent regeneration all the time and when you see their beforee and afters its usually more like 15 percent. So who's to say Polarity TE aren't making the same fallacious claims? It's all just misdirection and PR so they can get some fat funding. Let's look to something else or whatever until you get published SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL ACCCOUNTS WITH PICTURES OF HUMAN TRIALS. According to some of you this is already taking place and it'll be here in 2018 --all this first quarter bullshit. We're all just wasting time just like the previous year was all about hydrogels. This is just getting seriously boring checking in on this thread.

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Im just joking..
It just proves that people like Rez and Anonymouz who just claims without any evidence are easy to fool, they just believe my BS without requesting evidence

unlike many of us who use evidence , who will request for link to prove something..