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@mjg713You are wrong when saying there haven't been advancements, not the ones we're after, though. Neither will there be any for at least another 20 years probably and none of that 3D skin printing everyone is so excited about. Stem cell research may have some breakthrough in the next few years but also not to the extent we'd like. Hep C cure is an entirely different matter, I'd bet we're are closer to finding a cure for AIDS than curing scars
Actually, I have kind of gave up with the scarring issue even though part of me secretly hopes there will be a cure. I just have to accept that with my scars I won't be able/or drastically reduces my chance to find a partner. Somethings in life just happens and you have to deal with it. Although it sucks because scarring is something that you can't change. If a girl breaks your heart, you can find a new one. If a bully bullies you, you can stand up to him. But if you are scarred, what can you do? I also know I cannot dwell on this issue on my whole life. Just lead it and tolerate, maybe blame it on past karma that caused this. I only can say we have to let it go. If we do not let it bother us, it will not to a certain degree.
Life is not perfect, there are people who are born with severe disfigurement (which is worst than acne scarring) yet they live on. Then there are other children who are sex slaves to criminal organizations, and other childrenwho have to carry guns and fight wars, you can imagine the fear they have everyday. We should be thankful that at least we are not in that situation and pray and believe that someday, something will be done for us.
Check out these before and afters. Go for this procedure instead of waiting for scarless healing.
https://www.realself.com/review/vadodara-india-scar-removal-41-year-subcision-fat-transfer-cheeks#
2 hours ago, Binga said:Check out these before and afters. Go for this procedure instead of waiting for scarless healing.
https://www.realself.com/review/vadodara-india-scar-removal-41-year-subcision-fat-transfer-cheeks#
why not? Hydrogel aims to be a replacement for grafting with reachable prize...
While waiting, we could save some money and not wasting it on some disappointing treatment like what you posted.. no dermis regeneration = disappointment
Thanks for posting btw
I recently read the study on the hydrogel regenerating skin on third degree burns in pigs. I know it isn't humans, but pig skin is extremely close to humans. We even use their skin for skin grafts and internal parts. I think that this is extremely promising and shows that we are closer than ever before. Does anyone know when they plan to start human trials? I want to picture some type of timeline if I can.
It had been stated before that the human trials is planned for 2016.
If you see at their website and facebook, they are currently established partnership with Winthrop University to validate their products on humans
At the same source, they state that they are planning to release 2 turnkey products( 1 to prevent scarring for 3rd degree burn and the other to help diabetic wound to close) by mid to late 2017
Also,they themself admit that acute wounds might get better outcome than current test for 3rd degree burn at their papers
21 minutes ago, rudy1986 said:It had been stated before that the human trials is planned for 2016.
If you see at their website and facebook, they are currently established partnership with Winthrop University to validate their products on humans
At the same source, they state that they are planning to release 2 turnkey products( 1 to prevent scarring for 3rd degree burn and the other to help diabetic wound to close) by mid to late 2017
Also,they themself admit that acute wounds might get better outcome than current test for 3rd degree burn at their papers
What do you mean by they admit acute wounds might get better outcome than the current tests. Doesn't this completely regenerate skin after a third degree burn? So tho must work on a normal skin scar, correct? I assume the scar would first have to be excised and then the hydrogel applied for this to work.
Mind you that "better" here refers to the width and length of the wound.
Say, the current test regenerate 1cm x 1cm fully, but 1.3cm x 1.3 cm would only regenerate the 1x1 cm wound and leave a 0.3x0.3 cm scar if this is a 3rd degree wound because of its edema
If it is a simple excision without edema like 3rd degree burn, it would be able to regenerate 1.3x1.3 cm or even 2.5cm x 2.5 cm wound like dr Guoming Sun said
Im looking forward to see how this hydrogel will work, rudy, as i read in the conversation you put me, you think it will work on stretch marks too?
i cant even imagine myself recoverying my self-esteem again
i think that if one day i can look into my face, my body and see that its scar free again i will explode and cry drowned by the emotion of being unchained
1 hour ago, luger234 said:The hydrogel appears to reduce scarring by essentially speeding the healing process.
So i'm a bit confused. Is the hydrogel suppose to regenerate new skin or just reduce scarring? Also how confident is everyone that hydrogel will be successful? I'm just curious and hoping that it won't be another failed project like Juvista.
5 hours ago, De Rerum Natura said:Im looking forward to see how this hydrogel will work, rudy, as i read in the conversation you put me, you think it will work on stretch marks too?
i cant even imagine myself recoverying my self-esteem again
i think that if one day i can look into my face, my body and see that its scar free again i will explode and cry drowned by the emotion of being unchained
it will work on whatever lession you have since the treatment requires debridement on any unwanted tissue to create a new wound bed
2 hours ago, mjg713 said:So i'm a bit confused. Is the hydrogel suppose to regenerate new skin or just reduce scarring? Also how confident is everyone that hydrogel will be successful? I'm just curious and hoping that it won't be another failed project like Juvista.
it will regenerate skin
Isn't the statement "the regenerated skin demonstrated characteristics of uninjured skin" enough?
Source : http://www.prweb.com/releases/2015/07/prweb12856816.htm
2 hours ago, rudy1986 said:it will work on whatever lession you have since the treatment requires debridement on any unwanted tissue to create a new wound bed
it will regenerate skin
Isn't the statement "the regenerated skin demonstrated characteristics of uninjured skin" enough?Source : http://www.prweb.com/releases/2015/07/prweb12856816.htm
No, sadly it's not because the tests were only conducted on pigs so far and not humans. I will not be that optimistic about it until human tests actually begin.
10 hours ago, mjg713 said:So i'm a bit confused. Is the hydrogel suppose to regenerate new skin or just reduce scarring? Also how confident is everyone that hydrogel will be successful? I'm just curious and hoping that it won't be another failed project like Juvista.
The purpose of this information is to increase the rate of healing and minimize scar formation
On 5/23/2016 at 0:07 PM, scarredandsad34 said:The day scientists can cure scarring is the day that they can stop us from aging and dying.
sorry folks, but it ain't gonna happen anytime in our lifetime. We are screwed.
Finally someone with some fucking intelligence. Why don't you guys fucking realize this. That's absolutely the case. Trust me the language these scientists are using is highly impressionistic (cured scarring in pigs or mice or whatever) --it's just BS marketing. The day there is a real scar cure is the day science can stop us from aging and dying. This will definitely be possible around 4549 A. D. Not in the next couple centuries at least.
I kind of understand both sides of the argument here. On one hand I think it is very impressive that a true scientific study has show complete regeneration in pigs, which are very close to us. Also it is under John Hopkins, which speaks for itself. On the underhand is the skeptic in me wondering why this hasn't had more exposure if it's so much of a breakthrough. If this hydrogel does work, does anyone know how it will address the issue of internal scar tissue?
skin renegeration and stopping the aging process are two things totally different u cant compare them
skin and wound regeneration are a external insue and we already can reverse some of the damages of aging process but never stop it from continue to happening
nothing stops the aging process this only will be able to be achieved by modifying the genes.
but doesnt mean you wont be able to reverse the superficial "damage" that aging process does, like wrinkles and others skin problems related to age
regenerating a wound to a normal skin CANT be compared to this, cant be compared even to a limb regeneration which is something that scientists are looking foward too.
On 5/23/2016 at 11:07 PM, scarredandsad34 said:The day scientists can cure scarring is the day that they can stop us from aging and dying.
sorry folks, but it ain't gonna happen anytime in our lifetime. We are screwed.
some facts :
1. Sunogel aims for perfect cutaneous regeneration which means that it is foreseeable nearby future
2. Gemstone also stated that their product originally is designed to regenerate scar free skin
3. Eqalix managed to regenerate 1cm wounds completely within 3 cm x 3 cm wound
4. Scar free healing foundation is now embarking on a generation worth of time to tackle the problem pf scarring
Or maybe you know more than these scientists?