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Posted : 07/22/2015 9:48 pm

Guys it's time to start talking about egg oil again. It has been used in humans and mice it has healed them without scars. The oil used was not made by frying the yolk or using 2-propanol/hexane solvent mixture. Both of those methods ruin the oil in various ways. Vav Life Science invented a solvent free cold process technique to extract the oil from the yolk. I am still searching for that patent with out any sucess. This oil healed mice scar free. It healed a 9 month old baby scar free as well. There is a way to extract the oil without solvents using cold. It might be possible for us to find a way to replicate this process at home. The solvent way is too expensive. You need a IKA RV 10 Control rotary evaporator from IKA-Werke GmbH. It's like 6grand or so maybe more I forgot. It's not the way to get the oil since some of the solvent remains in the oil afterwards. Using heat and 100 grain alcohol isn't the right way either. It also contaminates the oil and removes the immunoglobulins. We need to sort out how Vav Life Science did it. I know it works. There are publications on it all over the internet. Help me find the patent to the cold process. I have made the oil before using heat and it was pretty interesting stuff. No more waiting. No one here can make the hydrogel, it is a very complex process involving lots of specialized equipment and supplies. We can solve this egg oil. I know we can.

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(@rez77)

Posted : 07/22/2015 11:37 pm

Could you guys pleas get some reality checks. Those articles are just marketing and do not suggest anything for acne scars.

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(@cycloverid)

Posted : 07/23/2015 12:18 am

 

Yeah I just saw this. Great news!

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(@jackdoe)

Posted : 07/23/2015 1:14 am

Could you guys pleas get some reality checks. Those articles are just marketing and do not suggest anything for acne scars.

 

Read the study. This is the same content.

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(@jackdoe)

Posted : 07/23/2015 2:30 am

Guys it's time to start talking about egg oil again. It has been used in humans and mice it has healed them without scars. The oil used was not made by frying the yolk or using 2-propanol/hexane solvent mixture. Both of those methods ruin the oil in various ways. Vav Life Science invented a solvent free cold process technique to extract the oil from the yolk. I am still searching for that patent with out any sucess. This oil healed mice scar free. It healed a 9 month old baby scar free as well. There is a way to extract the oil without solvents using cold. It might be possible for us to find a way to replicate this process at home. The solvent way is too expensive. You need a IKA RV 10 Control rotary evaporator from IKA-Werke GmbH. It's like 6grand or so maybe more I forgot. It's not the way to get the oil since some of the solvent remains in the oil afterwards. Using heat and 100 grain alcohol isn't the right way either. It also contaminates the oil and removes the immunoglobulins. We need to sort out how Vav Life Science did it. I know it works. There are publications on it all over the internet. Help me find the patent to the cold process. I have made the oil before using heat and it was pretty interesting stuff. No more waiting. No one here can make the hydrogel, it is a very complex process involving lots of specialized equipment and supplies. We can solve this egg oil. I know we can.

 

Could you give us all studies of this treatment? I've found just one.

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Posted : 07/23/2015 4:39 am

Could you guys pleas get some reality checks. Those articles are just marketing and do not suggest anything for acne scars.

 

They wouldn't be able to sell/market it if it didn't do what they claim it does. That's just my view.

 

Also, if it minimizes scar formation when it comes to acute wounds, it will do the same for acne scars. It wouldn't make sense otherwise.

 

 

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 07/23/2015 5:18 am

Even they claim that they might have a different result in acute wounds such as tumor removal (might even produce scar free healing)

 

Additionally, they said that edema develops beyond the periphery of burns which is excised, indicating a better result for acute wounds

 

Also, in greco song thesis, they claimed what to be the weakness of current hydrogel in porcine is its rapid degradation which is different compared to mice, so the have to reopen the wound to retreat the wound with the newer hydrogel (hydrogel retreated wound). With this, they might cover this weakness with slower degradable hydrogel

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Posted : 07/23/2015 11:29 am

I'm going to limit my enthusiasm until I see before and after pics of these pigs that were tested on.

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(@rez77)

Posted : 07/23/2015 2:35 pm

OKAY I AM GOING TO RESERVE FROM USING FOUL OR ABUSIVE LANGUAGE. BUT THIS SITE YOU GUYS KEEP GETTTING ARTICLES FROM MNT IS ITSELF A MARKETING NEWSLETTER !!!!

 

IT'S NOT A SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL!!!

 

NOTE THE VAGUE LANGUAGE!!! IT'S LIKE "FUTURETIMELINE.ORG" IN FACT IT'S RUN BY THE SAME COMPANY.

 

SO PLEASE THE UNIVERSITY EDUCATED AMONGST YOU, PLEASE ACTUALLY KNOW THAT YOUR SOURCES ARE ERRONEOUS.

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Posted : 07/23/2015 4:19 pm

The mice study used the 2-propanol/hexane solvent yolk oil extraction. The infant child used the vav life cold process yolk oil extraction (which is much safer as no solvent remains in or is used to extract the oil from the yolk) we need to find the patent for the cold extraction process. The solvent one is very expensive. Scar free healing is here. The egg oil works. But no one sells it as we need it. The cold process might be easy enough to do allowing us a way to Frankenstein/create some of this oil for ourselves. We need that patent. Vav life doesn't sell this oil yet I don't think. The hair version they do sell is not the same.

 

http://ircmj.com/?page=download&file_id=4411

 

http://www.pharmafocusasia.com/articles/healing-burn s"

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Posted : 07/23/2015 8:58 pm

Do you think it is similar to healthy skin?

If you have read the paper, you must have seen the result. do you believe?

 

Could you guys pleas get some reality checks. Those articles are just marketing and do not suggest anything for acne scars.

exactly!

If they include some comments from real dermatologist, it may be different

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 07/23/2015 10:42 pm

Seabs135: whats your take on this news?

 

Lapiz : do you think they will go to human trials? Or they revert back to murine study?

 

Thanks guys

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Posted : 07/23/2015 10:49 pm

Damn link for the pictures of the infant with burned hands healed scar free with egg oil didn't work. Here it is again. Nope still can't make it a link. Sorry I am using a phone to post this stuff. Again who here has that GoogleFu to find the patent for the cold extraction process? I can not find it...

 

www.pharmafocusasia.com/articles/healing-burns

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Posted : 07/23/2015 11:48 pm

EGG OIL!!!! lolololol have you guys lost your mind!!!??

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Posted : 07/24/2015 1:04 am

EGG OIL!!!! lolololol have you guys lost your mind!!!??

 

Dude, why are you so crappy?

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 07/24/2015 6:59 am

 

 

Lapiz : do you think they will go to human trials? Or they revert back to murine study?

 

 

I can't think of any reason why they wouldn't.

 

In the new blurb that was posted they are somewhat vague though when it comes to whether these pigs truly had their skin regenerated or not. They say the scarring was minimized and that the regenerated "skin" had certain things in common with uninjured skin but mind you, scarring is referred to as skin as well by medical professionals.

 

But I'm still excited and I am sure human trials will happen. After all, they posted on their website that they were planned for next year.

 

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Posted : 07/24/2015 7:32 am

Seabs135: whats your take on this news?

 

Lapiz : do you think they will go to human trials? Or they revert back to murine study?

 

Thanks guys

 

Nothing has changed. The scientific info hasn't changed. It reepithialized inside two weeks whereas only 14% of the control did. This is also even more translative to human skin...

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Posted : 07/24/2015 9:57 am

 

Seabs135: whats your take on this news?

 

Lapiz : do you think they will go to human trials? Or they revert back to murine study?

 

Thanks guys

 

Nothing has changed. The scientific info hasn't changed. It reepithialized inside two weeks whereas only 14% of the control did. This is also even more translative to human skin...

 

Some medical professionals claim that scars can form within 14 days though.

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Posted : 07/24/2015 3:33 pm

 

Seabs135: whats your take on this news?

 

Lapiz : do you think they will go to human trials? Or they revert back to murine study?

 

Thanks guys

 

Nothing has changed. The scientific info hasn't changed. It reepithialized inside two weeks whereas only 14% of the control did. This is also even more translative to human skin...

 

Some medical professionals claim that scars can form within 14 days though.

Here is clinical data that highlights scarring is very rare in anything wound that reepithilizes in under 14 days..

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16901651

 

 

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Posted : 07/24/2015 3:43 pm

Here is clinical data that highlights scarring is very rare in anything wound that reepithilizes in under 14 days..

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16901651

 

That's cool even thought they solely mention hypertrophic scarring.

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(@hydrogel)

Posted : 07/24/2015 11:05 pm

Are we there yet?! XD

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(@jackdoe)

Posted : 07/25/2015 12:10 am

That's cool even thought they solely mention hypertrophic scarring.

 

If you excise the skin you will get a HS.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 07/25/2015 8:31 am

Are we there yet?! XD

 

Not yet.

 

 

That's cool even thought they solely mention hypertrophic scarring.

 

If you excise the skin you will get a HS.

 

Hypertrophic scarring is the sole scar type that is associated with excision? I highly doubt that. No offense. But it's cool that that is avoided at least through usage of the hydrogel.

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(@jackdoe)

Posted : 07/25/2015 8:39 am

Hypertrophic scarring is the sole scar type that is associated with excision? I highly doubt that. No offense. But it's cool that that is avoided at least through usage of the hydrogel.

 

None taken. I'd like to argue, but my poor English won't let me do it. Sorry :)

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