I hope they offer a Spray-On version of this DH when it comes out for Veterinarian Use. Kind of Like Vetericyn. That stuff is amazing at healing chronic wounds that don't normally heal on their own. Hydrogel is amazing stuff. Here is a website that shows Vetericyn in action. http://www.lynnterry.tv/videos/mylahs-vet-visit/
Bloodwar44 Please stop trolling... Hydrogel is nothing new. The approach/formula used to create this form of Hydrogel is. They tested it against a control and you can bet your #$% they did it several times over before welcoming investors in and moving on to the porcine model.
Thank you Rudy1986. I tried to call them today as well. I am tired of the Trolls on this forum going out of their way trying to spread misinformation and bad news in order to dash other peoples hope. Some people on here are damn near suicidal. Think before you Troll.. Your sick little game might cause one of these unfortunate suffers to give up hope and end their life as a result.
Im not trolling lol, i hope its false.
So michael really confirmed with you that it working?
Thats good then. Because someone else told me otherwise, but he might be wrong
i personally am suicidal as well, but maybe we could look at other things like recell if this doesnt work .
dont know even know why you guys with freaking pimple marks would be suicidal. IF you were burnt in a mishap or got acid poured on your face or something it would be more ok....
its actually kind of your faults for not getting treatment for the pimples earlier...things like pimples don't happen and leave scars overnight you know... It takes months and years of acne to cause really bad scarring. if you just ignored and didn't go to a doctor....what excuse could you have??
for me it was just an instant , one night and everything was messed up because some drunk driver was irresponsible.
before rudy gave the news from michael i tried calling them and emailing many times, but no response.
Stay strong pal!
Just this day im feeling suicidal when the sun revealed my monstrous template of a face
yeah i was on the verge of it just two days ago... nearly ended it. like i mentioned i was an actor before this happened and my skin was alot better than many of my female friends, now i am unemployed and spending time on acne.org...
thats not your face on the profile pic right rudy?
hi lapis. car accident , went up in flames.
I was in an accident too. Got lauched off of my bike at a high speed.
It's difficult to process a thing like this. Took me years to get to the point I am today where I hardly ever think about my scar.
Been suicidal too in the past but it wasn't just due to the effects of the accident. I also hardly ever think of suicide today.
Certain things when they are taken away, it's terrible and tragic. Ultimately you have to make a choice where you either embrace your situation and play the hand you've been dealt the best way you can or you don't. And to get to that point usually takes people a long time.
yeah lapis, especially when you were doing great before and bam suddenly its gone. like heaven and hell.
anyway my body has burns here and there too, what is hydrogel going to do for me. if they have to excise all the burnt skin...man thats like skinning me alive , full thickness to boot
it will be very expensive.... the thing i fear more is FDA approval if it actually works.... A drug takes 12 years to get approved by the FDA. even recell which has been working and proven for so long has still not been approved by the FDA.......
recell in 2006.
Now its 2015, recell is still not yet approved.
If dextran doesnt go market to other countries then we are screwed. and have to wait 15+ years.
rudy....are you really sure that gemstone got full regeneration????
I couldn't find anyone named michael blanchey
http://gerechtlab.johnshopkins.edu/people
Scroll down and you'll see him.
Listen guys we need to reboot this shit. Problem is none of you are really serious about any of this. You're all just dreamers.
Let's throw like 20 grand at the problem. What would you do with AVAILABLE (not pipeline dream products which is all dextran hyrdrogel was a full out pipeline bullshit thing and I was the only one who knew it and told you. So end of discussion on that).
What would you do now if you had 20 grand to throw at the problem of acne scars on your face. Here's what I would do.
1) Have a preliminary treatment with erbium or some other full blown laser that would create superficial wounds for like 1 week to pus and clear. And full healing in 3 weaks. This would hardly do anything, maybe 3 percent improvement and cost like 4 grand to do, but it would prep my skin.
2) I have have subcision done to all my acne scars and then another strong fraxel laser right after topped off with RECELL , though would maybe take the overall improvement to about 5 percent.
3) After 2 months I then would go in for HARDCORE dermabrasion and ANOTHER RECELL treatment (they say RECELL is onetime but that's bullshit, there's no reason you couldn't do it again) and then after 2 months healing....
4) Have a really good fillers doctor work in fat and some of the newer smaller particle fillers, even silicone under all the remaining pock marks and indentations. I would also have interdermal botox injected into my skin to suppress all the sebacious glands.
I believe this would result in 30 percent improvement of acne scars, maybe more, and all of this including travel to Europe to receive recell treatment (though I live in Canada so I suppose I could get it here).
This would cost altogether 20 grand, probably cheaper than whatever the dextran hydrogel treatment would cost!!!!!
Can anyone add anything they would think would improve this protocol???? Please do add and share. I am confident this would result in significant improvement of even the worst acne scars which is what I have. Let's actually start talking about viable solutions and get our heads of the clouds. I want to know what would work NOW, not in some vague future scenario!
You'd basically need all of this. Note it's tri-modal: subcision, laser resurfacing, AND fillers. ANd the improvement is SHIT. They change the lighting to flat lighting in the afters so what looks like 30 percent improvement here is actually only like 5 percent.
ADD to this 2 bouts of RECELL, A MUCH STRONGER LASER, plus DERMABRASION. Now we're fucking talking! I'm gonna gurantee 30 percent improvement to anyone who follows my protocol. Better than anyone else out there.
WHO IS GAME? Or are you all just fucking dreamers????????
What else would you add to this protocol? Fuck hydrogell it's BULLSHIT.
WHO IS GAME? Or are you all just fucking dreamers????????
I'm game! But also i'm a fucking dreamer. You can get some improvement with your protocol. I got here from a Russian forum. We do subcision, rolling, single needling, tca cross,and so on. We see the great results! But the scars don't gone completely. Everybody wants to get rid of them just FUCKING COMPLETELY!
I'm gonna do all that i can to get rid of them, and also i'm waiting for dextran hydrogel to make my final treatment.
(and sorry for my English, i'm not a native)
rebecca black is researching dextran hydrogel guys
LOL I don't think this is getting through any of your skulls. Even if someone is "researching dextran hydrogel" that means next to nothing. Unlike Seabs I'm not a naive scientific idealist or realist. I'm a pragmatist my friends. Look up the difference these are real positions within the philosophy of science. He's a naive realist. I'm a pragmatist. I want results and I measure results by my own empirical observation. So follow my protocol!!!
All you whiny whiny babies who are talking about this hydrogel and that lab and this researcher. Do you really want to have some improvement in your scars? I don't think any of you REALLY want improvement because then you'd have no more excuses for why your lives were so shitty. You can always hide behind "my scars my scars! oh woe is me!!!"
If you want improvement then here's the way. You wanna minimize your scars? Maybe you'll even do much better than 30 percent, I was being conservative. But for the LOVE OF GOD will someone take some bloody action around here? Don't whine about the money, go out and make some!!! 20 grand is nothing in the grand scheme of life, in the grand scheme of your dreams!
So go ahead, and show us what you got! But for the love of god, can we shut down this hyrdrogel nonsense until someone shows me a human application, I don't care about this porcine and rat bullshit. They've been able to do all sorts of shit with rats they can't do with humans and pigs. And all in thse shitty little experiments to fund their lab grants. THAT'S ALL THESE SCIENTISTS CARE ABOUT!!! PRODUCING RESULTS FOR GRANTS. They're not like "Oh man I can really help Seabs and his poor acne scars by developing a great application for all these poor acne scar suffererers." NO! They're like, damn I hope I get this grant so I can have this cushy lab job for another five years and puddle around with this crap producing nothing!!!!
SO EITHER FOLLOW ME! OR FUCK YOURSELF!
rez does have a point we are 694,574 views in and still noting, ik it hard to deal with but what can we do lock ourselfs in ourrooms for the rest of ourlifes, ik have have serve acne scarring but then i look at old people skin does it really matter because we are all going to age, just sucks having our lifes being robed so early tho.
rebecca black is researching dextran hydrogel guys
LOL I don't think this is getting through any of your skulls. Even if someone is "researching dextran hydrogel" that means next to nothing. Unlike Seabs I'm not a naive scientific idealist or realist. I'm a pragmatist my friends. Look up the difference these are real positions within the philosophy of science. He's a naive realist. I'm a pragmatist. I want results and I measure results by my own empirical observation. So follow my protocol!!!
All you whiny whiny babies who are talking about this hydrogel and that lab and this researcher. Do you really want to have some improvement in your scars? I don't think any of you REALLY want improvement because then you'd have no more excuses for why your lives were so shitty. You can always hide behind "my scars my scars! oh woe is me!!!"
If you want improvement then here's the way. You wanna minimize your scars? Maybe you'll even do much better than 30 percent, I was being conservative. But for the LOVE OF GOD will someone take some bloody action around here? Don't whine about the money, go out and make some!!! 20 grand is nothing in the grand scheme of life, in the grand scheme of your dreams!
So go ahead, and show us what you got! But for the love of god, can we shut down this hyrdrogel nonsense until someone shows me a human application, I don't care about this porcine and rat bullshit. They've been able to do all sorts of shit with rats they can't do with humans and pigs. And all in thse shitty little experiments to fund their lab grants. THAT'S ALL THESE SCIENTISTS CARE ABOUT!!! PRODUCING RESULTS FOR GRANTS. They're not like "Oh man I can really help Seabs and his poor acne scars by developing a great application for all these poor acne scar suffererers." NO! They're like, damn I hope I get this grant so I can have this cushy lab job for another five years and puddle around with this crap producing nothing!!!!
SO EITHER FOLLOW ME! OR FUCK YOURSELF!
imma fuck myself, it feels good.
Guys, its completly impossible for someone to follow this thread, if he doesnt read through dozens of spam posts everyday. Stop discussing your personal issues, stop asking the same questions again and again and stop writing everday what you are "hoping for" and what would be "so great". It doesnt change a thing. Stay ontopic.