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(@robertitoo)

Posted : 03/17/2015 9:12 pm

This thread is very depressing.

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 03/17/2015 11:31 pm

At least so until the next news from Gemstone.

 

stay strong till then. by the end of this year we should be hearing from them about the result of pig test.

 

Keep staying in this thread guys! and i will contact blatchley occassionally

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 03/18/2015 5:22 am

Guys, its completly impossible for someone to follow this thread, if he doesnt read through dozens of spam posts everyday. Stop discussing your personal issues, stop asking the same questions again and again and stop writing everday what you are "hoping for" and what would be "so great". It doesnt change a thing. Stay ontopic.

If people would take the time to write with proper punctuation and spelling and so on the thread would already be a lot easier to read. But that's already too much to ask...

This thread is very depressing.

Yeah.

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(@bloodwar44)

Posted : 03/18/2015 11:34 am

lapis. what do you think about hydrogel. Think it'll ever come out?

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(@skinregenerator)

Posted : 03/18/2015 12:59 pm

lapis. what do you think about hydrogel. Think it'll ever come out?

I think so

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 03/18/2015 1:14 pm

lapis. what do you think about hydrogel. Think it'll ever come out?

 

lapis. what do you think about hydrogel. Think it'll ever come out?

I think so

I think so too.

I'm not sure what to expect from it though.

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(@bloodwar44)

Posted : 03/18/2015 1:20 pm

but man, sometimes i look at my body and face and its so badly messed up that it feels like very little hope

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(@2001)

Posted : 03/18/2015 2:32 pm

It pretty much sounds like it was a success in the porcine model and now they intend to see what it does in wounds that have been open and exposed to the elements longer. This is a good thing, since one of the target groups involves patients with diabetic ulcers that don't heal. It's going to get approved as a "Device" and not a "Drug" and It won't take three 5 year clinical trial periods to arrive on the market because it's not a drug! That is a blessing in and of itself- because any drug based treatment must endure those 3 stages and each one takes 5 damn years. You have no idea how blessed we are as far as the news seems to be going for this discovery- Pigs mean it will work in humans. An FDA approved veterinarian grade version of this hydrogel should arrive on the market shortly after those final porcine tests are done, most likely 2016-2017. The human version will probably be available in 2017-2018. That's not that far away. Keep the faith.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 03/18/2015 9:47 pm

But man, sometimes I look at my body and face and it's so badly messed up that it feels like there is very little hope.

I fixed your "typos". ;)

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 03/19/2015 6:44 am

guys , this scarsgone guy said he is in contact with researcher called Sakul ...

 

Is he real?

 

Why is he no longer posting here?

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(@bloodwar44)

Posted : 03/19/2015 7:31 am

hes a troll

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 03/19/2015 12:34 pm

hes a troll

Do you think there are any other trolls in this thread? :whistle:

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(@bloodwar44)

Posted : 03/19/2015 2:06 pm

like you?

 

But man, sometimes I look at my body and face and it's so badly messed up that it feels like there is very little hope.

I fixed your "typos". ;)

what was up with this anyway lol

It pretty much sounds like it was a success in the porcine model and now they intend to see what it does in wounds that have been open and exposed to the elements longer. This is a good thing, since one of the target groups involves patients with diabetic ulcers that don't heal. It's going to get approved as a "Device" and not a "Drug" and It won't take three 5 year clinical trial periods to arrive on the market because it's not a drug! That is a blessing in and of itself- because any drug based treatment must endure those 3 stages and each one takes 5 damn years. You have no idea how blessed we are as far as the news seems to be going for this discovery- Pigs mean it will work in humans. An FDA approved veterinarian grade version of this hydrogel should arrive on the market shortly after those final porcine tests are done, most likely 2016-2017. The human version will probably be available in 2017-2018. That's not that far away. Keep the faith.

Sounds good , porcine doesn't necessarily mean that it will 100% work on humans. maybe 80% http://www.mdbiosciences.com/blog/bid/102239/The-pig-as-a-relevant-model-for-preclinical-efficacy-studies

But lets hope all goes well and by 2017-2018 we'll get our scars sorted out

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(@megtree)

Posted : 03/19/2015 2:33 pm

Hello! This is just a reminder from your friendly neighborhood mod to keep your posts in this thread on topic and relevant. We like to keep things friendly around here, so any unnecessarily bickering, irrelevant posts, trolling or bullying simply won't be tolerated (please review our board rules for more information).

While this thread was falling into the danger zone a few posts back, I am optimistic that is now headed back on track. That being said, if this thread degenerates again, we will have to begin deleting posts - and we really don't want to do that! Please keep your posts on-topic and relevant to the on-going theme of this thread. Thanks!

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(@rez77)

Posted : 03/21/2015 11:48 pm

The only trolls here are frankly the people who are incessantly belaboring this hydrogel business.

I decided to become proactive and productive and think of a protocol that any of us could ACTUALLY get NOW. Right now start the process and that would without a doubt at the end of the day, assuming no complications, give 20-30 percent improvement --and that's being conservative at the lower end of the spectrum.

But except for bloodwar not a single one of you have contributed to or discussed my protocol. I WONDER WHY....HMMMMM?????

Maybe it's cause you DON'T WANT A CURE OR IMPROVEMENT, you just all want to be armchair scientists and not actually take ACTION.

It's much easier blaming your problems on your acne scars, I mean hey that's why girls won't date you or why you're not confident? Right? But if you take away or improve your scars you won't have that excuse anymore and it will require getting off that laptop in your dark little smelly room.

I'm sorry folks. But the protocol I present: subcision, lasers, recell, wait 3 months, hardcore dermabrasion, recell, top it off with fillers. Hey that's a powermove. And is probably gonna cost in the ballpark of 15 to 20 grand. How much did you think hydrogel was gonna be by the way? Like dollars at your local drugstore?? hahahah Nope, it'll be more expensive that that at least for five years. So even if it does come out in 5-10 years, it'll be cost prohibitive for another five.

I'm being a REALIST. So please let's all take action NOW and stop all this pipe dreaming about hydrogel. No more hydrogel until we have proof it can be used for acne scars in humans.

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(@bloodwar44)

Posted : 03/22/2015 5:20 am

sorry rez, acne scars dont apply to me lol. burn scars do.

anyway, can anyone check with gemstone how much they intend to sell the hydrogel at?

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 03/22/2015 7:32 am

What they did say a year ago

 

: the key is pricing the product right

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(@binga)

Posted : 03/22/2015 8:49 pm

Some before and after pics of Stem cell treatment

http://www.bangkokstemcells.com/treatments-Cosmetic-fat-stem-cell-face-lift.php

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 03/23/2015 9:43 am

Failed before even starting human trials. So sad

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 03/23/2015 11:54 am

There is a seminar tomorrow:

https://www.facebook.com/ChemicalAndBiologicalEngineeringUWMadison

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 03/23/2015 12:39 pm

not like anyone from here will actually go lol

Obviously a summary of what was said at that seminar will be posted online for those who didn't attend.

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(@bloodwar44)

Posted : 03/23/2015 12:43 pm

i doubt so , its just a university seminar

https://www.facebook.com/events/840912962641177/

could you find a summary for this? lol

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 03/23/2015 12:56 pm

i doubt so , its just a university seminar

 

https://www.facebook.com/events/840912962641177/

 

could you find a summary for this? lol

 

Guess you're right. I checked out their YouTube channel but I also didn't see any kind of content like this on there.

Oh well, at least we know it's still being worked on Mod edit

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(@rez77)

Posted : 03/23/2015 2:05 pm

sorry what does this seminar have to do with acne scarring?

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 03/23/2015 2:34 pm

sorry what does this seminar have to do with acne scarring?

The seminar = Sharon Gerecht talking about the current status of the hydrogel.

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