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(@scarsgone2017)

Posted : 08/07/2014 9:30 am

My dermatologist once said that even burned victims of third degree could heal their skin like what it was by washing their faces regularly

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(@sndr)

Posted : 08/07/2014 4:49 pm

scarsgone2017: If a Dermatologist ever said that to me, I would never go back there again.

They'd also be getting a '0's across-the-board rating' on RateMyMD.

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(@scarsgone2017)

Posted : 08/07/2014 10:46 pm

@SNDR: why? Are u daying she is bull shitting me? Or she only needs money? Either case, are u really saying it was a flat lie?

 

Thx for the opinion btw

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(@sndr)

Posted : 08/07/2014 11:28 pm

Well let's put it this way, search up "third degree burns" on Google, then tell me if you think simply washing your face regularly would help in a situation such as theirs.

You're very welcome. Please don't go back to that dermatologist.
I remember 5 years back, a Dermatologist once said my scars were going too go way within a few months, which to my knowledge was simply bullshit.

I don't know why many Dermatologists and Plastic Surgeons say things that are far-fetched and uneducated... It could be that they're not as knowledgeable as we may think. One thing is for sure though, they do want your money.

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(@jt1986)

Posted : 08/07/2014 11:56 pm

Traditional exfoliation can only remove part of the stratum corneum (the outermost layer of the skin) and third-degree burns go very deep. Maybe she mistaked it for a first-degree burn... But what kind of MD could make that mistake?

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(@scarsgone2017)

Posted : 08/08/2014 4:39 am

@sndr, just a little bit of light would cheer me... do u think scarless heali ng is achievable in human? do u think we still have hopes?

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(@apetwin)

Posted : 08/08/2014 8:16 pm

Maybe we could reduce the "i hope someone will find a cure" and "do you think a cure will be found" posts. It wont change anything and it makes the really relevant information harder to find. No one knows if it will ever be possible. But i', positive, especially with the kinderspital zurich working on their own skin transplant and already testing it on human.

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(@scarsgone2017)

Posted : 08/09/2014 1:55 am

This is it guys, i take it from my older email folders

this is what she said to me through an email loop concerning my scars :

Dear Joni,

Based on our previous session, i concluded that your scars can be completely removed just like i said.

I had a former patient that used to be a third degree burn victim. He was desperate enough until he even considered suicide as an option

Then, i helped her by constantly using my products. Theses products requires regular cleansing and washing of her burned face

3 months later, she came back to me with newborn baby skin, flawless, shiny. I am proud of her and she thanked me many times

your case is only acne scars, which i can treat. Just go have another sessions with me, then i can show you which products of mine

i can apply to your scars

Best Regards,

Monica

what do you guys think?

Is this Dermatologist is really trustable?

seems like she is really convinving

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(@apetwin)

Posted : 08/09/2014 9:29 am

This is it guys, i take it from my older email folders

this is what she said to me through an email loop concerning my scars :

Dear Joni,

Based on our previous session, i concluded that your scars can be completely removed just like i said.

I had a former patient that used to be a third degree burn victim. He was desperate enough until he even considered suicide as an option

Then, i helped her by constantly using my products. Theses products requires regular cleansing and washing of her burned face

3 months later, she came back to me with newborn baby skin, flawless, shiny. I am proud of her and she thanked me many times

your case is only acne scars, which i can treat. Just go have another sessions with me, then i can show you which products of mine

i can apply to your scars

Best Regards,

Monica

 

 

what do you guys think?

Is this Dermatologist is really trustable?

seems like she is really convinving

Do you think this thread and all the million dollar research would exist if washing your face was the cure we're all looking for?

No, she is not trustable, is she even a real doctor?

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(@scarsgone2017)

Posted : 08/09/2014 10:06 am

Its weird , i searched her name on google, yet, no single record found

 

She open a clinique in a house which housed many skin products

 

Her name is Monica Preketek spkk

 

Spkk here refers to "spesalis kulit kelamin" in Indonesia

 

Which translate to "skin specialist" is she a fraud?

 

Whats more umfortumate, i ve wasterd around 10 millions rupiah

For her sessions and cleansers

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 08/09/2014 11:17 am

LOL If this Monica is real she is one of those unscrupulous people who underestimate everyone else's intelligence and overestimate their own. LOL

She needs to see a therapist.

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(@jt1986)

Posted : 08/09/2014 7:03 pm

She's bad news, stay away from her products. You never know what she is selling, but no face wash can do what she is claiming.

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(@skinregenerator)

Posted : 08/10/2014 8:48 pm

How to raise some money for conducting the gel research?

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(@cycloverid)

Posted : 08/11/2014 5:41 am

This particular discovery was in the news a few months ago, but here's a new article on it:

http://www.bioopticsworld.com/articles/print/volume-7/issue-4/departments/biooptics-breakthroughs/dentistry-regenerative-medicine-low-level-light-stirs-in-vivo-stem-cells-to-regenerate-tissue.html

It's called LLLT low-level light therapy (also referred to as photobiomodulation - PBM). They were able to get dentin in teeth to regrow, and they are talking about it possibly working on the skin.

Here's the pertinent quotation:

"The research promises a broad range of clinical applications in restorative dentistry and regenerative medicine, including wound healing and bone growth. And it hints at dramatic changes for dentistry and other disciplines."

Just thought I'd share some promising news since there's no word about Dextran Hydrogel.

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(@scarsgone2017)

Posted : 08/11/2014 7:47 am

Damn that doctor.....

 

I think all of people here should go to see Monica LOl.

 

Momey hungry bitc*

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(@jt1986)

Posted : 08/12/2014 8:27 pm

This particular discovery was in the news a few months ago, but here's a new article on it:

http://www.bioopticsworld.com/articles/print/volume-7/issue-4/departments/biooptics-breakthroughs/dentistry-regenerative-medicine-low-level-light-stirs-in-vivo-stem-cells-to-regenerate-tissue.html

It's called LLLT low-level light therapy (also referred to as photobiomodulation - PBM). They were able to get dentin in teeth to regrow, and they are talking about it possibly working on the skin.

Here's the pertinent quotation:

"The research promises a broad range of clinical applications in restorative dentistry and regenerative medicine, including wound healing and bone growth. And it hints at dramatic changes for dentistry and other disciplines."

Just thought I'd share some promising news since there's no word about Dextran Hydrogel.

I'm not sure what to think. LLLT is said to stimulate TGF-1 and there are studies suggesting that inhibiting it is desirable for skin regeneration. For example, see pages 9-10 here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3812288/

 

On the other hand, if it can really affect stem cells, that may override that mechanism. There's only one way to know.

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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 08/13/2014 3:51 pm

How to raise some money for conducting the gel research?

I don't think we really need to do that. Gerecht's research lab has funding from an investor and company, Gemstone Biotherapeutics. And all indications point toward them currently conducting tests and ongoing research. Unfortunately, it's not happening quite as quickly as we'd all like. Hopefully, once the summer wraps up we'll hear something.

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(@skinregenerator)

Posted : 08/16/2014 6:55 am

 

How to raise some money for conducting the gel research?

I don't think we really need to do that. Gerecht's research lab has funding from an investor and company, Gemstone Biotherapeutics. And all indications point toward them currently conducting tests and ongoing research. Unfortunately, it's not happening quite as quickly as we'd all like. Hopefully, once the summer wraps up we'll hear something.

I am thinking of making some adanced hydrogels for wound healing.

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(@scarsgone2017)

Posted : 08/17/2014 10:19 pm

The large animal trial is undergoing.... lets just hope good news emerge from it

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(@skinregenerator)

Posted : 08/18/2014 7:22 pm

The large animal trial is undergoing.... lets just hope good news emerge from it

how could this happen if the original researchers are not working on this any more?

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(@trendycat)

Posted : 08/18/2014 7:53 pm

 

The large animal trial is undergoing.... lets just hope good news emerge from it

how could this happen if the original researchers are not working on this any more?

Maybe because Sharon Gerecht wants all the proceeds.

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(@scarsgone2017)

Posted : 08/19/2014 12:42 am

Remember about what our skin used to like.. are we doomed here forever?

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(@jt1986)

Posted : 08/20/2014 3:09 pm

If by "original researchers" you mean Dr. Sun and Dr. Zhang, their names were on the patent application since it was filed. They would benefit from a commercial product just as Dr. Gerecht and Dr. Harmon would.

 

Also, suggesting that the research could not continue because part of the team moved on completely ignores that those remaining (as well as the new postdoc) are experts in dealing with biomaterials.

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(@skinregenerator)

Posted : 08/20/2014 6:50 pm

If by "original researchers" you mean Dr. Sun and Dr. Zhang, their names were on the patent application since it was filed. They would benefit from a commercial product just as Dr. Gerecht and Dr. Harmon would.

 

Also, suggesting that the research could not continue because part of the team moved on completely ignores that those remaining (as well as the new postdoc) are experts in dealing with biomaterials.

Someone mentioned dr H is no longer working on this either...but good luck with them!

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(@jt1986)

Posted : 08/20/2014 8:40 pm

"Someone"? Well, that's reliable.

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