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(@dextranlady)

Posted : 05/03/2013 2:24 pm

"The dextran hydrogel for wound healing is to enter large animal trials this summer. If the trials are successful we will be entering the veterinary market within a year after that. Human trials will start shortly after we have entered the veterinary market. We cannot legally sell, or give away, the dextran hydrogel for wound healing until it has been approved by the FDA."

^^^^Where did you get this information?

Typing it on google,just comes with your profile and this thread.

Whats your sources.?Otherwise we have the right to believe that this is not true.

Please prove me wrong.

I sent an email to Dr. Fini who is managing the project, that was his answer.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 05/03/2013 3:14 pm

A bit of skepticism is good.

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(@dextranlady)

Posted : 05/03/2013 3:24 pm

A bit of skepticism is good.

Yes, that why I'm going to plastic surgery. If they can reconstruct this: http://www.realself.com/photo/378710 I think perhaps they can cut out my little damage skin piece and fix it.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 05/03/2013 3:33 pm

Yes, that why I'm going to plastic surgery. If they can reconstruct this: http://www.realself.com/photo/378710 I think perhaps they can cut out my little damage skin piece and fix it.

You'd think that but I went to a plastic surgeon and they sent me back home...as they couldn't help me. And I don't have issues anywhere near as bad as that man in that photo.

It's all very specific...in the sense that some people can't be helped even though they have a small scar as for instance the scar is in a certain place on the face.

But talking to a surgeon can never hurt. So by all means go to one.

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(@dextranlady)

Posted : 05/03/2013 3:48 pm

 

Yes, that why I'm going to plastic surgery. If they can reconstruct this: http://www.realself.com/photo/378710 I think perhaps they can cut out my little damage skin piece and fix it.

You'd think that but I went to a plastic surgeon and they sent me back home...as they couldn't help me. And I don't have issues anywhere near as bad as that man in that photo.

It's all very specific...in the sense that some people can't be helped even though they have a small scar as for instance the scar is in a certain place on the face.

But talking to a surgeon can never hurt. So by all means go to one.

That is because they don't like to do more extreme procedures to "just" acne scars but they work. If it's necessary I will cut my skin myself like this photo and then go to a plastic surgeon then he will do the procedures.

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(@Anonymous)

Posted : 05/03/2013 7:26 pm

but surgery leaves full thickness cuts in the skin and creates scars. i dont understand how they can not be visible. i have looked into this a great deal and spoken to dermatologists and surgeons. i dont get how

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(@dextranlady)

Posted : 05/03/2013 8:30 pm

http://plasticsurgery.about.com/od/beforeafter/ig/Skin-Cancer-Photos/Skin-Cancer-Dr-Jacono-2.htm

Take a look at those 12 before and after

No scars...

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(@imreal2013)

Posted : 05/03/2013 9:35 pm

What is this about? Not to be rude but all reconstructive surgery leaves scarring. Some aren't that noticeable depending on the surgeon's skill. Also if you look closely, you will see the scar on each photo left by the surgery. There is even a description below each photo. The description describes the technique used and location the technique was used and if you look at the location, you will see the scar.

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(@trendycat)

Posted : 05/04/2013 12:18 am

 

"The dextran hydrogel for wound healing is to enter large animal trials this summer. If the trials are successful we will be entering the veterinary market within a year after that. Human trials will start shortly after we have entered the veterinary market. We cannot legally sell, or give away, the dextran hydrogel for wound healing until it has been approved by the FDA."

^^^^Where did you get this information?

Typing it on google,just comes with your profile and this thread.

Whats your sources.?Otherwise we have the right to believe that this is not true.

Please prove me wrong.

I sent an email to Dr. Fini who is managing the project, that was his answer.

Who is Dr. Fini? Googling for "Dr. Fini Dextran Hydrogel" does not have any relevant results. He is not listed on any of the papers or in any of the news reports. Do you have any links that show his association with the project? Where did you get his contact information?

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(@dextranlady)

Posted : 05/04/2013 4:03 am

 

What is this about? Not to be rude but all reconstructive surgery leaves scarring. Some aren't that noticeable depending on the surgeon's skill. Also if you look closely, you will see the scar on each photo left by the surgery. There is even a description below each photo. The description describes the technique used and location the technique was used and if you look at the location, you will see the scar.

But the scars are imperceptible.

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(@livinghorizon)

Posted : 05/04/2013 4:31 am

 

"The dextran hydrogel for wound healing is to enter large animal trials this summer. If the trials are successful we will be entering the veterinary market within a year after that. Human trials will start shortly after we have entered the veterinary market. We cannot legally sell, or give away, the dextran hydrogel for wound healing until it has been approved by the FDA."

^^^^Where did you get this information?

Typing it on google,just comes with your profile and this thread.

Whats your sources.?Otherwise we have the right to believe that this is not true.

Please prove me wrong.

I sent an email to Dr. Fini who is managing the project, that was his answer.

Who is Dr. Fini? Googling for "Dr. Fini Dextran Hydrogel" does not have any relevant results. He is not listed on any of the papers or in any of the news reports. Do you have any links that show his association with the project? Where did you get his contact information?

Exactly. Not trying to be rude but who is he? :/

 

 

Hey everyone. Thought I might just introduce myself for a bit. I've been a "silent reader" of this thread for about two years now (and yes, I check it out everyday almost obsessively). I'm just really interested in the idea of the 'Hydrogel' and hearing about it going through the veterinary trails thingy made my heart leap. I'm pretty sure that hydrogel will be available in the market soon, hopefully for human use. I was just wondering though. Will it be applicable for any type of scarring? Like really deep ones or is it only restricted to epidermal defects (e.g. acne scars, stretch marks, mild surgery scars etc).

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 05/04/2013 11:37 am

 

Hey everyone. Thought I might just introduce myself for a bit. I've been a "silent reader" of this thread for about two years now (and yes, I check it out everyday almost obsessively). I'm just really interested in the idea of the 'Hydrogel' and hearing about it going through the veterinary trails thingy made my heart leap. I'm pretty sure that hydrogel will be available in the market soon, hopefully for human use. I was just wondering though. Will it be applicable for any type of scarring? Like really deep ones or is it only restricted to epidermal defects (e.g. acne scars, stretch marks, mild surgery scars etc).

Its developed for full thickness wounds and third degree burns, all types of scarring...

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(@imreal2013)

Posted : 05/04/2013 9:34 pm

Yes they aren't that noticeable but don't say no scars when there are. It's phrases like that that give people confusing information. Like some doctor's will say get rid of scars with laser surgery on certain websites but that is not the case. Lasers only reduce not eliminate.

 

What is this about? Not to be rude but all reconstructive surgery leaves scarring. Some aren't that noticeable depending on the surgeon's skill. Also if you look closely, you will see the scar on each photo left by the surgery. There is even a description below each photo. The description describes the technique used and location the technique was used and if you look at the location, you will see the scar.

But the scars are imperceptible.

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(@akl)

Posted : 05/05/2013 9:21 am

Topic closed for now, until we've had enough time to go through all the rubbish. It'll take some time, in the meantime please take the insults and false accusations elsewhere, they're not appreciated here.

eta: Topic reopened. We have removed several posts and edited just as many. The amount of profanity was just insane. If you need to use expletives in every other sentence to get your point across, then maybe you should just ask yourself if you really have such a strong case. Discussions that end in (false) accusations and personal ad hominem attacks are not beneficial to our community, use arguments and factual proof instead. We've done our best to clean up the last couple of pages, if you find more offensive posts (old or new), please let us know by reporting them.
Thank you all for your patience!
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(@panos)

Posted : 05/07/2013 9:44 am

Guoming Sun needs to get his responses backed-up.

I dont trust him from what i am reading in the fb page.

He replied like" i dont think this hydrogel(the one that a dude attempted to make)

will be compatible.'',,,,

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 05/07/2013 12:01 pm

Everyone should cut out the personal attacks. it wouldn't surprise me if they locked this thread for good imo.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/07/2013 12:26 pm

I just made a thread with the correct term 'scar free healing', since in this thread the term is the decrease of the scar (scarlees healing).

This is why I made that thread besides that this thread is very 'tired', too many pages. I don't know because my thread is still blocked because my intention was to speak clearly of scar removal and NOT the reduction of it (as we all do here) 'scarlees healing' is reduction, also the initiator of this thread is not very active so is rare.

Really do not care to follow here, just wanted to make a correct term in something fresh and new. but no matter, anyway this facebook where at least talked specifically of free heals without scarring.

Everyone should cut out the personal attacks. it wouldn't surprise me if they locked this thread for good imo.

With all due respect, you also troll makes repeat again and again the same, causing many users to get angry and attack it. I think troll is not only insulting, it is also causing so 'subtle' to repeat the same thing a thousand times and make many pages writing the same.

I think you have read a lot about healing in these years but unfortunately never encouraged to give new theories about possible solutions.

Should always have a plan b ... you wonder every day what will happen if it fails hydrogel? a clear example is how one user said here, that rats are able to survive in the evolution of your skin, so it is likely to function in rats but not in humans ...

And if we offtopic all here, is because we have nothing to say ... but we are desperate people (all here), so I think that judge and warnings about our behavior is something no human, as this thread should be to 'here come those who are very desperate and we have a little tolerance with them' ... so we have not insulted account, we have only attacked a bit (which is different).

My opinion...(and yes... everyone can stand up and applaud now).

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(@akl)

Posted : 05/07/2013 2:30 pm

I just made a thread with the correct term 'scar free healing', since in this thread the term is the decrease of the scar (scarlees healing).

Scarless = without scars.

And if we offtopic all here, is because we have nothing to say ... but we are desperate people (all here), so I think that judge and warnings about our behavior is something no human, as this thread should be to 'here come those who are very desperate and we have a little tolerance with them' ... so we have not insulted account, we have only attacked a bit (which is different).

Insulting/harassing and accusing people without any proof whatsoever isn't going to heal scars either, so it's probably best to just say nothing then.

 

I've removed even more posts (thanks to the member who brought it to our attention). Behave yourselves, people! It's really not that hard.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/07/2013 3:26 pm

Behave yourselves, people! It's really not that hard.

Ok.

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(@Anonymous)

Posted : 05/07/2013 8:02 pm

i am not allowed to "repeatedly ask people to join facebook groups" and those posts have been removed.

 

This is my final post then as i wont be updating both pages. I have updates from John Hopkins University on Dextran Hydrogel and thought it was helpful to encourage you all to join. I was trying to make us one big team and not disappear and keep the info to myself.

 

Anyhow good luck with your scars everyone.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/08/2013 11:41 am

i am not allowed to "repeatedly ask people to join facebook groups" and those posts have been removed.

 

This is my final post then as i wont be updating both pages. I have updates from John Hopkins University on Dextran Hydrogel and thought it was helpful to encourage you all to join. I was trying to make us one big team and not disappear and keep the info to myself.

 

Anyhow good luck with your scars everyone.

We need to follow here. I think the mod are friendly really just have told us to lower the tone of aggression. I think this place was our refuge from nothingness years. of course we can be in several places if ud you wish, but this place I think is the basis of everything.

The basis for all discussion and news on the subject. I hope you follow here too. Us here to make bad reviews to discoveries, somehow, we pressed creators (eg hydrogel), to speed up things and make so clean. I think this forum is a showcase big for that, to maintain order and actual project into possible solutions, and publicize the scams as was Juvista.

I hope you and dextranlady here continue informing us, although we can be in several places also as I said, I think here is the basis of everything.

 

 

dextranlady btw, I've seen you ask in a forum of chemistry to a user, in theory she wants to make a dextran hydrogel and is consulting Chemistry basic questions. Could ultimately do you know if she made the recipe and if it worked on it?

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(@ujb1)

Posted : 05/11/2013 7:56 am

According to the FB page it looks like the hydrogel will be going into clinical trials within 1 - 2 years. Why would it take so long to start clinical trials?

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(@panos)

Posted : 05/11/2013 8:59 am

According to the FB page it looks like the hydrogel will be going into clinical trials within 1 - 2 years. Why would it take so long to start clinical trials?

Because JHU doesnt care for us and we have to find our own way to treat scars..

*Moderator edit - unneccessary comment removed*

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/11/2013 12:09 pm

for veterany use only 1 year for sale, right?

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(@ujb1)

Posted : 05/11/2013 12:13 pm

logic would dictate that the hydrogel, having no safety issues, would be tested right away on wounded soldiers.

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