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(@livinghorizon)

Posted : 05/11/2013 2:54 pm

Clinical trials is needed to confirm that the hydrogel will work. I doubt that they'll test it on wounded soldiers (even if the medical device is really safe), without testing it on pigs first because there's this whole humane/inhumane debate thingy going on. I guess, it takes a while to get clinical trials started because they wanna re-check/perfect the formula, or maybe to collect funds, or maybe there's a lot of trials going on. *shrugs* I know it's annoying, but this is how it has to be done. Hopefully the trials won't take long and we can get our lives sorted out asap.

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(@panos)

Posted : 05/12/2013 3:57 am

JHU is NOT going to help us.

Hydrogel may help us.

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(@dextranlady)

Posted : 05/12/2013 9:14 am

Scars left by excisions become white over time?

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(@damnlife)

Posted : 05/12/2013 10:02 am

Scars left by excisions become white over time?

Ohh you didn't know?

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(@dextranlady)

Posted : 05/12/2013 12:18 pm

 

Scars left by excisions become white over time?

Ohh you didn't know?

No... Well I suppose it will so.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/13/2013 10:45 am

we need only 1 year to see hydrogels in veterinary

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/13/2013 11:15 am

Scars left by excisions become white over time?

you asked in a chemical forum about 1 recipe of hydrogel, some user there is making that recipe, path she never response, maybe she do nothing

you should talk more whit dr sun hamond fini

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/13/2013 7:17 pm

now talk to a scientist and I communicate by email with the creator of hydrogel, I have news, but only for the private tell who asks me (it'll give someone if worth it), I do not give it to people he did nothing about it.

and are news surprise you much

bye

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/13/2013 7:42 pm

Bullshit...

People need to learn to use PROTECTION (condoms) to prevent shit like hiv and aids.

*Moderator edit to remove unconstructive foul language*

joe pesci rocks. goodfellas are a great movie path, you must to see casino, it's much great.

perfect actor to be a ganster

the great line from the movie when he says (in casino):

Get this through your head you Jew motCENSOREDfuc, you! You only exist out here because of me! That's the only reason! Without *me*, you, personally, every fucCENSOREDn' wise guy skell around'll take a piece of your fuCENSOREDn' Jew asCENSORED! Then where you gonna go? You're fuCENSOREDn' warned! Don't ever go over my fuCENSOREDn' head again! You motCENSORED, you.
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unfortunately no actors like this, not many, once every 100 years.

 

 

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(@damnlife)

Posted : 05/14/2013 9:00 am

Yeah I saw casino, but I prefer goodfellas over casino.

Though Godfather is the best IMO.

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(@dextranlady)

Posted : 05/15/2013 8:19 pm

Hydrogel may not work.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/15/2013 10:33 pm

Hydrogel may not work.

why you say that?

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(@dextranlady)

Posted : 05/16/2013 4:09 pm

The fact is that we don't know it will work or not. But it may work. Or not.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/17/2013 1:25 am

The fact is that we don't know it will work or not. But it may work. Or not.

it's only 1 year to see hydrogel on sale on veterinary shops? i mean next year? yes or not.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/19/2013 3:48 am

'''maybe hydrogel not work on humans'''...

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 05/19/2013 7:59 am

The hydrogel degrades, it gets degraded by the neutrophil response, like the control it cannot discriminate between any tissue.

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(@panos)

Posted : 05/19/2013 8:50 am

Why dont you dermastamp a single scar,and then put raw egg white.

I cant think of any better plasma to put on.

Seabs,not all tissues are the same.

If you cut salamander's limb,i doubt if you put anything on the stump will make things better.

Salamander dont make mistakes.

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 05/19/2013 12:21 pm

Seabs,not all tissues are the same.

If you cut salamander's limb,i doubt if you put anything on the stump will make things better.

Salamander dont make mistakes.

The salamander has nothing to do with what was being talked about. There is no association with what was being talked about and a salamander.

The hydrogel, like the control it was tested against, which has been tested on thousands of mammals, cannot discriminate against a tissue, it has no choice in the matter. All the gel does is get eaten by the white blood cells. When it is digested tissue is created. If it does not degrade or does not degrade fast enough, scarring occurs.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/19/2013 2:47 pm

I do not understand, is to degrade the hydrogel to the skin has to do with regeneration. I mean, no one can explain in what way is activated in skin regeneration. simply degrade gel means nothing to my opinion.

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 05/19/2013 4:35 pm

Your English is very broken. The paper shows a degradable hydrogel got complete regeneration when tested against a reliable control. Btw, no one has to explain anything if the evidence is telling. However though, the paper actually describes the activation process and scientific understandings regarding digestion and regeneration.

I do not understand, is to degrade the hydrogel to the skin has to do with regeneration. I mean, no one can explain in what way is activated in skin regeneration. simply degrade gel means nothing to my opinion.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/19/2013 5:11 pm

Yes, i know,

I only hope, that the news about 1 year to see hydrogel in veterinarys , mustb be true, the next year we can buy it in veterinarys. i don't know if this is true, even i dont know if 'fini' (he sais this news, like dextranladi says), it's some real person or is only a lie.

All it's very creap.

 

Your English is very broken. The paper shows a degradable hydrogel got complete regeneration when tested against a reliable control. Btw, no one has to explain anything if the evidence is telling. However though, the paper actually describes the activation process and scientific understandings regarding digestion and regeneration.

I do not understand, is to degrade the hydrogel to the skin has to do with regeneration. I mean, no one can explain in what way is activated in skin regeneration. simply degrade gel means nothing to my opinion.

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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 05/20/2013 6:16 pm

So after some debating (due to the foolishness on the board), I've decide to let you guys know that I have talked to Dr. Sun. He told me that while he has moved on from JHU, they are planning to test the hydrogel on larger animals this year. He still talks to a researcher there and gave me the names of three people I could talk to for more direct information. In the meantime, he is continuing his own research into wound healing at his new post.

The three names are Sharon Gerecht, Dr. John Harmon and John Fini. No, Fini is not some person made up by dextranlady. He's very real. In fact, he's the director of Johns Hopkins' Intellectual Property and Technology Commercialization Office (e.g. the office that they set up to take their research out of the lab and into the clinic). Here's a link to his contact info and a description of the office:

http://eng.jhu.edu/wse/page/homewood-technologies

Honestly, it takes like 3 seconds to look up something in today's world guys, so for people to sling around accusations is just nonsense. Simply Google search anyone of importance and if they're real, boom, there they are.

So in summation, John Fini is real, JHU is planning on larger animal tests this year and in his e-mail Dr. Sun reiterated that he believes the hydrogel is a great candidate for skin regeneration. Obviously he's not going to say it's 100% sure thing (that would make anyone suspicious of his motives) but he was optimistic.

If anyone has any questions (genuine mind you) about the e-mails I exchanged with him feel free to ask. I've e-mailed Dr. Harmon and Gerecht in the past but have gotten no response. I might e-mail John Fini this week.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 05/20/2013 10:04 pm

This year test on animals, next year hydrogel is on sale in veterinary? you must asked that to this doctor.

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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 05/20/2013 10:16 pm

I'll trying asking John Fini and Dr. Harmon again. Dr. Sun probably won't be able to update regularly because he's not there anymore and he'd be getting everything second hand. I don't really want to make him do that and I'd rather get it straight from the source anyway.

Dr. Sun didn't mention it moving into the veterinary world following tests on larger animals. He said (keep in mind he doesn't work there anymore) that if it worked on larger animals it would be moved to clinical testing soon after that. It's entirely possible that it would move into veterinary clinics but he didn't say anything about that.

I'd be curious to know if anyone has had success reaching out to Dr. Harmon. I sent him one last week and have not heard back. I know chuckstonchew used to talk to him but had said the responses ceased some time ago.

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