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anyone beside smashing pumpkins noticing real results for red marks with this ?
Yup, you can count me in on that. I have 8-10 red marks the size of a littlefinger nail on my right jawbone, and I've noticed quite a change in both the size and fading of red into a more brown/greyish hue.
The biggest change however is the reduction of oil on my face..Before ACV I would look like I've been swimming right after the Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska, years ago. The nastiest oil slick would be on my face within an hour or 2 after washing in the morning. Now, however, I only blot my face once during the day.
anyone beside smashing pumpkins noticing real results for red marks with this ?
Yup, you can count me in on that. I have 8-10 red marks the size of a littlefinger nail on my right jawbone, and I've noticed quite a change in both the size and fading of red into a more brown/greyish hue.
The biggest change however is the reduction of oil on my face..Before ACV I would look like I've been swimming right after the Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska, years ago. The nastiest oil slick would be on my face within an hour or 2 after washing in the morning. Now, however, I only blot my face once during the day.
How are you diluting your vinegar/water? Also are you applying twice daily and leaving it on or washing it off? I don't like the idea of having vinegar on my before I go to work but eh lol .. I'm gonna give this a go, my skin is really oil so I'm thinking of starting with a 70/30 vinegar to water split and apply it nightly and leave it on, I'll report results if I see any.
I started out suing 50/50 but it is sprobobly like 70/30 now, sometimes I use it full strength because my ksin is use to it. If you put the 50/50 solution on your face you won't smell lol bc the water weakens the smell so don't worry. Spray some cologne.
I use it 3x a day sometimes more if I have time.
Are you spot treating or applying everywhere?
I'm applying everywhere in the face and on my neck, also 3 times a day and with a 70/30 or 80/20 mix.
The first few days->1week you probably shouldn't go more than 50/50 solution, but let your skin get accustomed to ACV. However, I have noticed that I can stay "oil-free" longer the less water I mix in; but then the smell is a bit stronger. It fades away in 20 mins, though, so don't worry too much about the smell in the morning 🙂 I've actually considered trying to add some lavender essential oil drops into the ACV just to give it a better smell, plus that lavender is good for calming the skin as well. Haven't gotten around to do this yet, but I'll keep you posted.
anyone beside smashing pumpkins noticing real results for red marks with this ?
abso-posi-lutely. makeup used to take me a good 30 minutes in the morning, but now it takes a third (or less) of that time. the only thing i haven't seen budge is one redmark that i have had from my very first pimple. that, i haven't seen results from, but i'm hoping it'll be a very gradual change.
Okay, well I think you're misunderstanding the meaning of the word "cure" as opposed to the phrase "effective treatment." Cure would imply that after a period of use, the disease or affliction would be erradicated and never return... Since the effects of ACV seem to be dependent upon one's committment to using it, and dissipate when one stops use of the product, one can hardly deem it a "cure" for anything... Sorry, that's all I'm saying... when you say "cure" it sounds evangelistic... something like "remarkable results" or "good solution" would be better.
shmelis i think you're being a little too nit-picky, technical term-y. really. and come on, from your definition of a "cure", ACV definitely is a cure. i'm under the impression that once my redmarks- the "disease or affliction" fade away completely, they won't be back- "never return". so that's a cure.
Hi there ppl
Some more science to clear up I see....
I'm SURE someone's already said that this is dead wrong and that aspirin is not salicylic acid... it is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID).Salicylic acid IS found in aspirin, in the stabalised form, acetylsalicylic acid. And yes, it is also a NSAID.
Hey Baking soda isnt really basic - its sodium carbonate - the carbonate reacts with the "acid" part (Hydrogen ion) to produce carbon dioxide and water. Im not too sure what the pH of baking soda is though. Basic means having a hydroxide ion OH- (theres more to it than that - this is yr 11 chemistry). Baking soda will react with an acid but wont react with a base...
Baking Soda IS a base. It accepts H+ ions....the modern Bronsted definition of a base. The pH of sodium carbonate is about 8 to 9.....making it again, basic. Having a Hydroxy group (OH) is the (older) Arrhenius definition of a base, and is lesser used.
Last but not least, why does adding weak acid (ACV) to your face help?
Because, as it tends to be with us spotty people, we wash our faces alot and rid our skin of something called the 'acid mantle'. This is a natural protective layer of organic acid of about pH 5, which stops bacterial growth etc.
A 50% dilution of ACV is also roughly pH 5.....and wiping it on your skin recreates the acid mantle, giving you a protective layer again....temporarily.
your post made me really happy.
SmashingPumpkins hey how are you lol
well i've been using acv for about two weeks now, and its helped my acne heal alot faster as well as my red marks. i'm really happy about this, now i just can't wait to get my bp gel and cleaner in deee mail. =)
goodluck to everyone else out there and if you havent tried acv then TRY IT! what do you have to lose??
except all those red marks?? hehe
shmelis i think you're being a little too nit-picky, technical term-y. really. and come on, from your definition of a "cure", ACV definitely is a cure. i'm under the impression that once my redmarks- the "disease or affliction" fade away completely, they won't be back- "never return". so that's a cure.
Sorry if my posts are too wordy. I didn't mean to offend anybody.
I'm SURE someone's already said that this is dead wrong and that aspirin is not salicylic acid... it is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID).Salicylic acid IS found in aspirin, in the stabalised form, acetylsalicylic acid. And yes, it is also a NSAID.
Yes... But saying "aspirin = salicylic acid" is not correct... they are very closely related, but since they act in different ways when you put 'em on your face it doesn't make any sense to say that they are one in the same... you're not going to turn it into pure SA by dissolving it... especially not by dissolving it in vinegar... a traceable amount, certainly, but not enough to really mimic the effect of SA on skin; it will still act primarily as an anti-inflammatory.
That is all. I'll shut my big fat mouth now. Good luck to everyone using this, it seems to be pretty remarkable!
actually lemon is more acidic than vinegar
Yeah but its fine. It hasn't shown any dmg to the skin. Just don't go outside into the sun with lemon on your face because it makes your skin more sensitive to the sun and you'll get more brown marks. I would assume that its the same for ACV.
But Lemon and Cucumber have natural bleaching properties. Lemon has been known to get rid of freckles and such.
I seem to be more sensitive to ACV-I don't know why. It may be an allergic reaction, but I was suggesting to Smashing to help her get rid of brown spots, as ACV seems to be helping her get rid of red marks.
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Some people vouching for lemon juice on skin for brown marks on this forum. I mix it with egg white and I dont feel any stinging.
ok tonights the first night of trying this, one question is this stuff supposed to sting or anything? I have it about 60/40-70/30 vinegar to water and dont feel much; just wondering if its normal for that high of a dilution.
It stung the hell out of me, but that could mean my skin is more sensitive. Some people use 100% ACV, so your welcome to go higher if you want.
50-50 stung for me-like a burning sensation.
Ok so I finished my accutane about 2 months ago. I have been pimple free since like a week ago when I got like 2-3. I thought I was going to need to make a derm appointment. I saw this thread and have been using the acv for 3 days now and it demolished those pimples I had. No actives and my skin is looking better now especially since it seems to be evening out the tone...
I have tried diluted, full-strength, and plus fresh lemon juice ACV before. It did work when you have apply it. But, I always washed it off after like 10 mins with baking soda (for neutralising the skin pH?).
My comment is that don't use ACV when you have breakout (or blemish). The blemish, for me, took longer than usual to heal. The red mark after it healed is expected.
SmashingPumpkins hey how are you lolwell i've been using acv for about two weeks now, and its helped my acne heal alot faster as well as my red marks. i'm really happy about this, now i just can't wait to get my bp gel and cleaner in deee mail. =)
goodluck to everyone else out there and if you havent tried acv then TRY IT! what do you have to lose??
except all those red marks?? hehe
I am so glad you have bought the BP Gel that will keep you acne under control and so will the ACV :dance:
I think you IM'd me but I wasn't on the comp. mostly of the day and you were off 🙁
Does AVC help with flakiness?I'm on the regimen and BP helps my skin a good bit, but it tends to flake alot so I have to use alot of moisterizer. (which then makes my face look greasy)
Also, is there an intial breakout with AVC??
Yes it does! The great thing about ACV is even if you have Oily or dry skin the ACV finds the balance between the two. I still recommend a daily moisturizer because moisturized skin is healthy skin. You never wnat your skin too dry because that causes permature wrinkles.
Changes moisturizer if it gives you a greay look. Does it hav SPF in that? That def. i greasy. If you want to use an SPF they have the airbrush cans like a tanning spray bottle just use one of those then moisturize. I suggest Vaseline Intesive Care the one with NO Fragrance www.cvs.com sells them.
Yo smashing have you tried lemon and egg white yet? I think that lemon juice might help with the brown marks. Though with ACV it might be too much for your skin.I notice with the lemon-egg white it makes my face all peely but Im liking it so far.
I havent tried it yet because we just bought eggs actually so tomorrow I will give it a go. No lemon or lime at my house, but I will still try the egg white mask.
ok tonights the first night of trying this, one question is this stuff supposed to sting or anything? I have it about 60/40-70/30 vinegar to water and dont feel much; just wondering if its normal for that high of a dilution.
Yes it is very normal for it too sting, it stung me at first. If I use full strength that stings but 50/50 or 70/30 doesnt sting.
I have tried diluted, full-strength, and plus fresh lemon juice ACV before. It did work when you have apply it. But, I always washed it off after like 10 mins with baking soda (for neutralising the skin pH?).My comment is that don't use ACV when you have breakout (or blemish). The blemish, for me, took longer than usual to heal. The red mark after it healed is expected.
You really don't want to put ACV on your face then Baking Soda because the Bakin soda won't neutralize it infact it will make it alkaline which is where acne bacteria thrive.
I suggest baking soda then ACV and leave it on. ACV acts as our skins "acid mantle" which as we get older slower gets weaker. Our skin needs this to fight off bacteria which live in an alkaline pH. Many people probobly have acne because of this and just don't know it yet.
Hope that helped.
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I think because apples are great for exfoliating the skin because they are alpha hydroxy acids, the ACV acts the same exfoliating the skin. I have noticed because I have a tan since using ACV on my face the tan goes away much faster and I noticed this when I would manually exfoliate. This is a great thing because it is working much better than Glycolic Acid creams. I don't mind losing my tan faster but atleast I know it is exfoliating my skin so I do not have to. This would def. help get rid of flakes 🙂
Okay, well I think you're misunderstanding the meaning of the word "cure" as opposed to the phrase "effective treatment." Cure would imply that after a period of use, the disease or affliction would be erradicated and never return... Since the effects of ACV seem to be dependent upon one's committment to using it, and dissipate when one stops use of the product, one can hardly deem it a "cure" for anything... Sorry, that's all I'm saying... when you say "cure" it sounds evangelistic... something like "remarkable results" or "good solution" would be better.
shmelis i think you're being a little too nit-picky, technical term-y. really. and come on, from your definition of a "cure", ACV definitely is a cure. i'm under the impression that once my redmarks- the "disease or affliction" fade away completely, they won't be back- "never return". so that's a cure.
Very well said btw 🙂
Wait, now I'm confused. Is AVC good or bag for active acne???? :confused:
it has been really good for mine, i've been doing this for a few days now and I normally would have had a zit by now but I haven't gotten one. I had some whiteheads when I first started out but they went away after a few days
if anyone has success on a really big red mark or a really red one, now that would be amazing. I think this might do a little litlle somthing for really minor red marks.
I wouldn't say that it is an AHA and AHA's are used for red mark sufferer because it exfoliates the skin but ACV does much more then that which would help heal the skin.
lol. actually what is apple cider vinegar???where can i buy it??
is it the vinegar that use in cooking?? 😛
& one more question.
can the ACV toner help to even out the skin tones??? 🙂
You cna buy ACV at your local grocery store - salad dressing & olive oily aisle
Yes, you can use ACV ofr cooking but it has many other uses, this one is for drinking you wouldnt drink white or balsamic vinegar.
Yes ACV helps even out your skin tone, think of it as a strong AHA.
Ok so I finished my accutane about 2 months ago. I have been pimple free since like a week ago when I got like 2-3. I thought I was going to need to make a derm appointment. I saw this thread and have been using the acv for 3 days now and it demolished those pimples I had. No actives and my skin is looking better now especially since it seems to be evening out the tone...
congrats!
if anyone has success on a really big red mark or a really red one, now that would be amazing. I think this might do a little litlle somthing for really minor red marks.
the biggest one of my redmarks was about the size of the eraser on a pencil top. it's not gone completely, but it's sooo much smaller and more a dull pink than the vibrant red it once was...
Wait, now I'm confused. Is AVC good or bag for active acne???? :confused:
i hwoke up recently with a string of active acne on my forehead (damn t-zone!!) and i flipped out... but now all of them are gone except for two very small ones. plus, my skin's redmarks take eternity to heal, but the redmarks from this recent breakout are healing a lot faster than they did before ACV
I think because apples are great for exfoliating the skin because they are alpha hydroxy acids, the ACV acts the same exfoliating the skin. I have noticed because I have a tan since using ACV on my face the tan goes away much faster and I noticed this when I would manually exfoliate. This is a great thing because it is working much better than Glycolic Acid creams. I don't mind losing my tan faster but atleast I know it is exfoliating my skin so I do not have to. This would def. help get rid of flakes 🙂
that's a very interesting point about the tanning!!