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(@necromancer)

Posted : 10/07/2006 4:33 pm

what do you suggest for red marks? i waited for several years and did nothing and they look the same.

 

 

Part of it is genetics and the type of white background you might have in your ancestors. Some white skinned people heal very well where the pimple goes to a scab and then becomes a pinkish mark and then fades to a light brown mark and then quickly fades away. This is basically the process most wounds to the face go with all types of skin types. Genetics plays a big roll in how fast this process occurs. All red marks eventually fade away. Sometimes it takes as little as a few weeks, to months, and for the unfortunate few - many years.

 

I have found that I prevented my redmarks from fading for years by constantly applying creams and other acne medications on my face which blocked the natural sun rays and atmosphere from reaching the red marks. I found the cream made by Vaseline many years ago and still use it today. It helps a lot with evening complexion and removing red marks over time. People want the quick fix with surgery, peels, and skin microdebrasion. I am against these techniques because they, in the long run, permanentely ruin the skin structure. It usually thins the skin and allows easier burning from the sun and regular atmosphere conditions.

 

Overall, it just takes time. I waited years because I knew when I was clear of all marks and had no traces of acne, I would be very satisfied with what I accomplished.

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(@yellowphaze)

Posted : 10/07/2006 7:11 pm

Hmm.. right... I think I'll stick with CSR. by the way, you're too cocky for your own good.

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(@mjs9eleven)

Posted : 10/08/2006 3:08 pm

Did anyone ever read his 500th post? It was long. I didn't actually read it because I had to clean the guest bathroom and vaccuum. So I really shouldn't comment. But....

 

Whenever he mentions, "Bring it on," or whatever I kept thinking, "Would this work on boobs?" :think:

 

I'm gonna try it. I'll let you all know.

 

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where is this post?

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(@pharaoh123)

Posted : 10/10/2006 1:21 am

I agree with you about a lot of things. Especially getting out in the sun. I hate it when people say you should avoid the sun and stay inside like a hermit or something.

 

But you might want to change the part about taking a couple multi vitamins a day. Multivitamins are crappy in terms of absorbtion, and only a fraction of each ingredient is acctually absorbed. Also taking a couple will give you too much iron, which can be dangerous and many men allready have more then enough. That's why taking them seperately is better. I take centrum performance but just one and then a couple of seperate ones.

 

You did break out during that 5000-6000 calorie diet though right? I wouldn't be suprised even on the regiment.

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(@hypersniper)

Posted : 10/10/2006 7:01 am

I read the incredibly long post, looks straight up. I've come to about the same conclusion myself.

 

My acne is incredibly severe now, I've got this horrible interconnected one of the side of my face, I don't know what to do with it, I can barely touch it to apply BP to it or wash it. It hasn't gotten better in a month, My only option now appears to be accutane which I've been waiting 3 MONTHS to see the derm.

 

 

I'll really try to stay on this regimen now, salt and pepper are going out the door. My only problem is that I'm a high school student so I kind of have to eat whatever my mom feeds me...... which is real problem. In this house we eat ground beef 5 times a week.

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 10/10/2006 10:51 am

 

Did anyone ever read his 500th post? It was long. I didn't actually read it because I had to clean the guest bathroom and vaccuum. So I really shouldn't comment. But....

 

Whenever he mentions, "Bring it on," or whatever I kept thinking, "Would this work on boobs?" :think:

 

I'm gonna try it. I'll let you all know.

 

Platinum

 

 

where is this post?

 

 

Page 5, majority of the page. Good luck!

 

 

I agree with you about a lot of things. Especially getting out in the sun. I hate it when people say you should avoid the sun and stay inside like a hermit or something.

 

But you might want to change the part about taking a couple multi vitamins a day. Multivitamins are crappy in terms of absorbtion, and only a fraction of each ingredient is acctually absorbed. Also taking a couple will give you too much iron, which can be dangerous and many men allready have more then enough. That's why taking them seperately is better. I take centrum performance but just one and then a couple of seperate ones.

 

You did break out during that 5000-6000 calorie diet though right? I wouldn't be suprised even on the regiment.

 

 

Yeah the sun is great. For some skin types, the sun will never help because of the skin chemistry, ethnic background, and melanin in the skin.

 

I talk about absorbtion a lot in my regimen. I believe many people don't know how to properly take vitamins, what time in the day to take them, and what the real goal is when you take them. Most don't understand how they work either. I have done lots of research and taken classes in college about nutrition and health dealing with food and nutrient absorbtion. I know about the iron and other toxic levels in vitamins. Being a bodybuilder, I keep a record of all the things I take. I recommend taking any vitamin during a meal (more specifically as half-way as you can during the meal). The goal is to keep the vitamin in the body for the longest amount of time in order to have most of it absorbed.

 

Yes, I broke out during the high calorie diet. I am still on this diet. However, I have a lot of control over my body now that I understand it from the years of trial and error. So break outs are no surprise if or when I get them. I don't have major breakouts though because I consume so much food that I eventually get enough good nutrients to filter the bad ones like bad fat and other oils. I also only drink milk and water so that eliminates the whole area of sodas and other acidic drinks that I know will break me out severely.

 

Good luck!

 

 

I read the incredibly long post, looks straight up. I've come to about the same conclusion myself.

 

My acne is incredibly severe now, I've got this horrible interconnected one of the side of my face, I don't know what to do with it, I can barely touch it to apply BP to it or wash it. It hasn't gotten better in a month, My only option now appears to be accutane which I've been waiting 3 MONTHS to see the derm.

 

 

I'll really try to stay on this regimen now, salt and pepper are going out the door. My only problem is that I'm a high school student so I kind of have to eat whatever my mom feeds me...... which is real problem. In this house we eat ground beef 5 times a week.

 

 

Yeah, if you have tried regimens similar to mine before and nothing worked, then I recommend Accutane. But even on Accutane, so many people eat like they usually would. I don't know why they would if they are really serious about clearing their skin. I would recommend to eat as 'clean' as possible so when you get off of it, you don't break out again like I see most people do (even if it is only minor or less than before).

 

I used to have that problem with my mom. I eventually just had to draw the line and say I won't be eating what you are cooking tonight. If that doesn't work, try to get a part-time job and fix your own food. For me, my face was the most important thing since you gotta look at yourself for the rest of your life. So I didn't care where I was, what food was available - if I didn't find food that would benefit my skin, then I didn't eat anything.

 

Good luck!

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(@betti320)

Posted : 10/11/2006 1:39 pm

you lost me after the first paragraph of your so called regimen you bored me to death next time just keep it plain and simple and get to the dam point

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 10/11/2006 2:22 pm

you lost me after the first paragraph of your so called regimen you bored me to death next time just keep it plain and simple and get to the dam point

 

 

I'm sorry you got bored. The whole post is the regimen. It is not plain and simple. Nothing worth getting in life is plain and simple. It may be hard and even extreme, but it will lead to success in many people with similar situations. Please read again and ask questions if you need to. Good luck! :)

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(@trafalgar)

Posted : 10/11/2006 3:37 pm

You said you didn't touch your face at all, even to scratch an itch. What do you do when in a relationship, do you tell your partner not to kiss your face, or gently touch/stroke it, or cradle it while kissing?

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 10/11/2006 3:47 pm

You said you didn't touch your face at all, even to scratch an itch. What do you do when in a relationship, do you tell your partner not to kiss your face, or gently touch/stroke it, or cradle it while kissing?

 

 

Yes. It depends on what you are willing to sacrifice. But, overall if anyone touches my face, I get real mad and this leads to stress and often acne. But, overall you shouldn't let acne hold you back from relationships. The goal is for you to never ever touch your face. That is something we can all control if we are disciplined and have our priorities set. That is what my regimen is about - to do everything you can possibly can to eliminate all chances of acne with variables that the individual can control. When I was younger I used to touch my face all the time. Now I never do and my brain is trained to never touch it regardless of itching or oil or anything. Good luck!

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 10/18/2006 9:29 pm

People have PM'ed me to put some of the meals I actually eat when I follow my regimen. So here is a popular item I eat a couple of times during the week. It is called Chicken with Broccoli around a cube of Rice. It has great meat, broccoli is a very good vegetable for acne, and plain white rice is usually good too. The only thing that may be of warning is that soy sauce contains a lot of sodium. So if your acne is prone to sodium (salt), then you might want to eat this with a different ingredient or lower the use of soy sauce. Good luck! :D

 

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(@betti320)

Posted : 10/20/2006 1:17 pm

ok broccoli and chicken I'm assuming that is which is good but the rice no I can't stomach the rice

I was taking doxy but stopped taking it the past few weeks and now I just take EFA's, borage oil & evening primrose and my face is staying clear even while pmsing!!! I also use mandelic acid and green cream.

I do let my hubby touch my face and kiss me I can't live without affection. :)

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(@dantecubit)

Posted : 10/26/2006 3:26 pm

Damn, man, I really feel your pain, but...

 

-Waffles and pancakes are eaten plain (no butter, no syrup, nothing)

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-Bread is always eaten plain (no butter, jelly, peanut butter, nothing)

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(@molotov-cocktail)

Posted : 10/30/2006 2:38 pm

Here are some ingredients:

 

Glycerin, Dimethicone, Potassium Lactate, Stearic Acid, Sodium Hydroxyproply Starch Phosphate, Mineral Oil, Glycol Stearate, Lactic Acid, PEG-100 Stearate, Glycine Soja Sterols, Lecithin, Petrolatum, Tocopheryl Acetate, Vit. E, Retinyl Palmitate, Vit. A, Helianthus Annuus Seed Oil, Sodium PCA, Sodium Stearoyl Lactate, Urea, Sollagen Amino Acids, Mineral Water, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetyl Alcohol, Magnesium, Aluminum Sificate, Fragrances, Steramide AMP, Ehtylhexyl, Methoxycinnamate, Corn Oil, Methylparaben, DMDM Hydantoin, Disodium EDTA, Xanthan Gum, BHT

 

 

Mineral oil is one of the MOST acne aggravating things you can put on your skin. It is one of the heaviest oils used in cosmetics and body lotions. I understand that everyone is diffrent, but everyone I've ever talked to that was acne-prone broke out terribly after using products with mineral oil in them. Most companies have started manufacturing their lotions and cosmetics without mineral oil because it aggravates facial skin so much. How in the world do you not break out from it?

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 10/30/2006 3:03 pm

 

Here are some ingredients:

 

Glycerin, Dimethicone, Potassium Lactate, Stearic Acid, Sodium Hydroxyproply Starch Phosphate, Mineral Oil, Glycol Stearate, Lactic Acid, PEG-100 Stearate, Glycine Soja Sterols, Lecithin, Petrolatum, Tocopheryl Acetate, Vit. E, Retinyl Palmitate, Vit. A, Helianthus Annuus Seed Oil, Sodium PCA, Sodium Stearoyl Lactate, Urea, Sollagen Amino Acids, Mineral Water, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetyl Alcohol, Magnesium, Aluminum Sificate, Fragrances, Steramide AMP, Ehtylhexyl, Methoxycinnamate, Corn Oil, Methylparaben, DMDM Hydantoin, Disodium EDTA, Xanthan Gum, BHT

 

 

Mineral oil is one of the MOST acne aggravating things you can put on your skin. It is one of the heaviest oils used in cosmetics and body lotions. I understand that everyone is diffrent, but everyone I've ever talked to that was acne-prone broke out terribly after using products with mineral oil in them. Most companies have started manufacturing their lotions and cosmetics without mineral oil because it aggravates facial skin so much. How in the world do you not break out from it?

 

 

;) That is why my regimen is unique. Combined with all the other things I do, I can put a lotion on that has mineral oil and still not break out but instead improve my complexion drammatically. Just hearing someone using vaseline as an acne product on the face is unique enough I think. Post or PM me if you have anymore questions. Also, keep in mind this regimen is for mild-lightly moderate acne sufferers. I cannot stress this enough because there is little chance that this will work for more severe acne cases because of the different methods in the regimen that are involved. Good luck!

 

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(@yellowphaze)

Posted : 10/30/2006 11:36 pm

In case anybody hasn't caught on yet, this is a regimen to GET acne, not treat it. And you WILL get acne

 

by listening to this teenager.

 

I'm 18, and would never go through a "regimen" instructed by another teen. :wall:

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 10/31/2006 11:23 am

In case anybody hasn't caught on yet, this is a regimen to GET acne, not treat it. And you WILL get acne

 

by listening to this teenager.

 

I'm 18, and would never go through a "regimen" instructed by another teen. :wall:

 

 

I am sorry you feel this way. I am actually 23 and a nuclear engineer. Hopefully you will read my regimen and take some of the good points you need. Good luck! :D

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(@dantecubit)

Posted : 10/31/2006 11:43 am

 

In case anybody hasn't caught on yet, this is a regimen to GET acne, not treat it. And you WILL get acne

 

by listening to this teenager.

 

I'm 18, and would never go through a "regimen" instructed by another teen. :wall:

 

 

I am sorry you feel this way. I am actually 23 and a nuclear engineer. Hopefully you will read my regimen and take some of the good points you need. Good luck! :D

 

I'm sure you excel in your field, but there is really nothing in your regimen, as yellowphaze pointed out. Acne is an internal problem generated by the western diet, so eat waffles? It doesn't take a nuclear engineer to figure out the the two are incongruous. And the 5-page buildup to your long, ranting post? C'mon man, that is so juevenile. Either post up or shut up.

 

I'm thinking this is either (a) a joke or (b) a regimen necromancer really follows, which entirely coincidentally happened to coincide with the time in his life when his acne cleared naturally.

 

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 10/31/2006 11:51 am

 

 

To respond to the whole "acne cleared naturally" thing, I say where are my red marks that so many other people have? Where are my scars? I have been doing this regimen for years and only recently perfected it. My face used to look like crap with marks, scars, and raised pigmentation areas from cysts. My regimen prevented any of this from occurring for the 10+ years I had/have acne. It is definately not clear for me and probably will never be as I still have very oily skin and whenever I divert away from my regimen, I break out pretty bad. So in summary, (a) this is no joke, and everything in the regimen is 100% true, (b) I was able to maintain clear skin from my regimen and my acne is definately not gone today. Good luck!

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(@knowshow)

Posted : 11/12/2006 11:48 am

i can't believe i just wasted my time reading that.. that was the stupidest regime I have ever read.. you have outdone your uselessness Necro.

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(@stillhere)

Posted : 11/12/2006 7:58 pm

I don't see why so many are being so critical since he spent so much time doing his post. I do think there are several good tips here. While I tried the vegetarian route a few times, I just couldn't do it since I get really weak and slightly anemic no matter how much soy or other types of non-meat protein I consume. I think the red meat is a BIG BAD NO for acne sufferers. I am 42 and have learned many times after a few hamburgers out of convenience and for a quick fill up, my face gets oily and sometimes have a breakout. I have experienced mild acne on and off for gosh what... 29-30 years??? Clean pillowcases, bleached if necessary to kill bactera is very important. Hair products which will brush up against the face are an issue. I think once when I was 22 or 23, I had a pretty bad breakout of moderate acne. Thank god, I never really had a cyst problem other than one or two which I probably caused myself. Once a tiny pimple which I bursted but not completely drained, imploded to the worst looking, 3 month cyst of my entire life on my jawline. I am now totally scared to touch any pimple on my jaw if it happens. I think eliminating red meat, and other aspects of the diet are extremely important and agree with this very much. While the idea of eating a cow bothers me, the simple fact that my skin will get oily, is enough most of the time to stay clear.

I think the no stress thing is a big issue as well. Do what you know will or might work and try not to worry about it. I stressed so bad about a zit leaving a scar that I went in for a smoothbeam session. They could have charged me alot, I didn't really care, but felt sorry for me I suppose and only charged me 105.00. I think his regimen holds merit for men. He does mention many times that moderate to severe acne may not respond.

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(@elsewhere)

Posted : 11/12/2006 8:17 pm

This is a PERSONAL regimen log.

 

NOT A DEBATE.

 

I will be doing some cleaning up. My apologies to those whose posts will be edited.

 

Once again, this is a personal regimen log.

 

NOT A DEBATE.

 

Thank you. Have a great day.

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(@anarion)

Posted : 12/01/2006 6:43 am

edit: nm i shouldn't write something i don't belive in hehe

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Posted : 12/03/2006 5:07 pm

Necromancer said:
molotov cocktail said:
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Here are some ingredients:

Glycerin, Dimethicone, Potassium Lactate, Stearic Acid, Sodium Hydroxyproply Starch Phosphate, Mineral Oil, Glycol Stearate, Lactic Acid, PEG-100 Stearate, Glycine Soja Sterols, Lecithin, Petrolatum, Tocopheryl Acetate, Vit. E, Retinyl Palmitate, Vit. A, Helianthus Annuus Seed Oil, Sodium PCA, Sodium Stearoyl Lactate, Urea, Sollagen Amino Acids, Mineral Water, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetyl Alcohol, Magnesium, Aluminum Sificate, Fragrances, Steramide AMP, Ehtylhexyl, Methoxycinnamate, Corn Oil, Methylparaben, DMDM Hydantoin, Disodium EDTA, Xanthan Gum, BHT

Mineral oil is one of the MOST acne aggravating things you can put on your skin. It is one of the heaviest oils used in cosmetics and body lotions. I understand that everyone is diffrent, but everyone I've ever talked to that was acne-prone broke out terribly after using products with mineral oil in them. Most companies have started manufacturing their lotions and cosmetics without mineral oil because it aggravates facial skin so much. How in the world do you not break out from it?

;) That is why my regimen is unique. Combined with all the other things I do, I can put a lotion on that has mineral oil and still not break out but instead improve my complexion drammatically. Just hearing someone using vaseline as an acne product on the face is unique enough I think. Post or PM me if you have anymore questions. Also, keep in mind this regimen is for mild-lightly moderate acne sufferers. I cannot stress this enough because there is little chance that this will work for more severe acne cases because of the different methods in the regimen that are involved. Good luck!

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Petrolatum and mineral oil are NOT comedogenic!

This test on acne patients showed it actually improved their condition!

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A touch of petrolatum and water is basically what most moisturizers use. Its easier and safer if you do it yourself using only Vaseline which is pure petrolatum and water. People blame petrolatum or mineral oil in products for acne but they usually have other ingredients.

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(@funshine)

Posted : 12/11/2006 8:42 pm

16) Skin toners/Makeup: When you start to take this route, you should be aware of one simple fact. By covering the blemishes or acne you have, you are delaying the natural healing process and risking long-term marks. The sun helps fade away scars and other marks and this is the long-term goal you should want. However, short-term wise, the method of using aoemakeupa? is fine as long as you donat expect your actual skin to improve much while covered. I used makeup for about a year until I realized I was just delaying the healing process. I no longer use any concealers or makeup and my skin is in top condition.

 

Hey, this is the first time I've heard use of makeup delaying the healing of scars and red marks! Interestingly enough, my acne scars in high school healed fast, b/c I rarely used makeup then. Nowadays, I care too much about physical appearance and can't leave the house without foundation dabbed on my scars. And my red marks are taking verrrrrrrrrry long to heal. It's a constant source of aggravation for me. I used to think it was because my skin was "older" and less able torenew itself, but your theory makes a lot of sense.

 

Does anyone else think using makeup to cover up their acne actually results in longer-lasting red marks?

I'm not so sure it's the sunlight that's making the scars fade, but it might be the exposure to fresh air or something...

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