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(@necromancer)

Posted : 09/16/2006 7:02 pm

 

 

 

I don't understand your last question with AHA.

 

 

I believe they want to know what % of AHA's are in the moisturiser. They're most likely lactic and glycolic acids, probably have %'s written in bold on the packet. ;)

 

 

It isn't listed on it. It comes in a pretty large container as I have been using the 1st one I bought several years ago. It's by far the best moisturizer I ever used. I never seen anyone else use it though because it is supposed to be used for the body.

 

Here are some things from the back:

 

-Alpha Hydroxy

 

 

Can you find what Alpha Hydroxy Acids are in it? They should be in the list. Alpha Hydroxy is simply a group of acids, the term AHA is very non specific. Plus they really should give %'s, if only to work out pH levels.

 

 

Here are some ingredients:

 

Glycerin, Dimethicone, Potassium Lactate, Stearic Acid, Sodium Hydroxyproply Starch Phosphate, Mineral Oil, Glycol Stearate, Lactic Acid, PEG-100 Stearate, Glycine Soja Sterols, Lecithin, Petrolatum, Tocopheryl Acetate, Vit. E, Retinyl Palmitate, Vit. A, Helianthus Annuus Seed Oil, Sodium PCA, Sodium Stearoyl Lactate, Urea, Sollagen Amino Acids, Mineral Water, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetyl Alcohol, Magnesium, Aluminum Sificate, Fragrances, Steramide AMP, Ehtylhexyl, Methoxycinnamate, Corn Oil, Methylparaben, DMDM Hydantoin, Disodium EDTA, Xanthan Gum, BHT

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(@angelis)

Posted : 09/16/2006 7:11 pm

So the "nothing ever seen before" regimine was actually....A list of stuff many many other people have done and posted about?

 

I fail to see how that is new at all, but whatever.

 

So yea...Diet changes, no touching your face, drink water...And some mystic voodoo bullshit.

 

'Kay. :lol:

 

You know what's funny is that we are so alike in terms of what we eat/drink and how we live, yet I still have acne. I don't touch my face, I drink tons of water, I eat really well and I don't use salt (just a preferance of mine) I never pop pimples...Etc etc...

 

You just got lucky. You do all this stuff yet your skin is probably still oily and you admittingly still get pimples. I fail to see how this is anything but voodoo crap and a bunch of lame regimines that don't work period. A lot of people here have pretty bad acne, not the "Oh dear, I got a pimple! End of the world, it is!" acne. I mean, like...Disfiguring and shit. And you're telling them to pretty much make their world revolve around their skin with the promise of *maybe* getting less pimples. *Cough* Insane.

 

Go back to the "Holier than Thou" attitude so I can laugh myself ot sleep knowing that someone out there is even more of an asshole than I am.

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(@forever-lovely)

Posted : 09/16/2006 7:13 pm

dude your signature picture is a LITTLE bit over the top. You are trying to look like Jesus or something.

 

 

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 09/16/2006 7:23 pm

So the "nothing ever seen before" regimine was actually....A list of stuff many many other people have done and posted about?

 

I fail to see how that is new at all, but whatever.

 

So yea...Diet changes, no touching your face, drink water...And some mystic voodoo bullshit.

 

'Kay. :lol:

 

You know what's funny is that we are so alike in terms of what we eat/drink and how we live, yet I still have acne. I don't touch my face, I drink tons of water, I eat really well and I don't use salt (just a preferance of mine) I never pop pimples...Etc etc...

 

You just got lucky. You do all this stuff yet your skin is probably still oily and you admittingly still get pimples. I fail to see how this is anything but voodoo crap and a bunch of lame regimines that don't work period. A lot of people here have pretty bad acne, not the "Oh dear, I got a pimple! End of the world, it is!" acne. I mean, like...Disfiguring and shit. And you're telling them to pretty much make their world revolve around their skin with the promise of *maybe* getting less pimples. *Cough* Insane.

 

Go back to the "Holier than Thou" attitude so I can laugh myself ot sleep knowing that someone out there is even more of an asshole than I am.

 

 

I don't think you are doing everything exactly as I am doing. You are talking about one aspect of the regimen. I don't drink tons of water. I drink it until my urine is clear. Drinking anything more is a waste and not required unless you are thirsty. My skin is not probably oily, it is oily. But it is clear and I don't get pimples often - maybe 2-3 a month and they go away in 3-4 days at most (usually because of something I didn't follow in the regimen like taking a shower before a nap or eating out at a restaurant where the food is heavily seasoned.

 

Yes, my world revolves a lot around my skin because I made the choice to sacrifice other things in order to keep my face scar free. If I had a bunch of scars due to acne, I would be depressed beyond belief.

 

I don't understand your last question or comment.

 

Thanks for the compliments.

 

 

dude your signature picture is a LITTLE bit over the top. You are trying to look like Jesus or something.

 

 

Religion is not involved in my regimen. I don't pray to any God or higher power while performing my regimen.

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Posted : 09/16/2006 8:54 pm

hahahaha lol :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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(@acneisenemy)

Posted : 09/16/2006 9:03 pm

Glad to see you did end up posting the regimen.. and it was helpful.. thank you :)

 

But I have a question..you said eliminate orange juice.. what about the brand Simply Orange? it contains nothing but oranges.. and is not from concentrate.. or is it just oranges in general that you think are bad?

I noticed orange juice with onions have helped my skin as both are anti-inflammatory..

 

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(@wazuh)

Posted : 09/16/2006 9:18 pm

thx for the response, one more thing though .. how important do yuo think moisturizing is and do you only use your moisturizer after your shower or with the 2nd water only wash as well?

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(@betty-boop)

Posted : 09/16/2006 9:33 pm

Glad to see you did end up posting the regimen.. and it was helpful.. thank you :)

 

But I have a question..you said eliminate orange juice.. what about the brand Simply Orange? it contains nothing but oranges.. and is not from concentrate.. or is it just oranges in general that you think are bad?

I noticed orange juice with onions have helped my skin as both are anti-inflammatory..

 

 

Yum orange juice with onion in it??? Or sepatate Marlena?

I drink pure orange juice too, love onions in everything.......

Necro is this still bad?

Gave up on all drinks with splenda that helped, but have I glass of pure orange juice to start my morning?

Good question Marlena, spicing things up maybe with onions, and maybe garlic, instead of the condiments??

What do you think Necromancer???????

Oh Necro also Tamari, or Bragg is a bit better than soy sauce. (A natural Dr. told me this)????? :)

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 09/16/2006 9:44 pm

Glad to see you did end up posting the regimen.. and it was helpful.. thank you :)

 

But I have a question..you said eliminate orange juice.. what about the brand Simply Orange? it contains nothing but oranges.. and is not from concentrate.. or is it just oranges in general that you think are bad?

I noticed orange juice with onions have helped my skin as both are anti-inflammatory..

 

 

Yes I know exactly of Simply Orange. It WAS my favorite drink. It tastes great. It also was a major contributor to several breakouts along my neck and jawline which included several papules. It was one of the items in my previous diet that I was able to narrow down through elimination. I researched about orange juice in general and also asked around people on campus when I was in college what they thought about it. A lot of them had the same general breakouts from orange juice (I didn't just ask random people who didn't have acne but those that did have acne and that I knew in some way).

 

People react different. That combination is good if it helps you. The only time I use orange juice is with screwdrivers - and I do break out a little, but I am willing to pay the price for a good night out.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

thx for the response, one more thing though .. how important do yuo think moisturizing is and do you only use your moisturizer after your shower or with the 2nd water only wash as well?

 

 

I use the moisturizer ONCE a day right after I shower and my face is completely air dried (which takes about 5-10 minutes usually. I apply it when my skin is started to appear dry and very unoily. I never use it if I decide to wash my face during the day. The natural oils of the skin produce enough to moisturize the face after a face wash. Also the face wash is just warm water for about 30 seconds at most. Then air dried. That is all that is necessary when you really understand what you are trying to accomplish.

 

 

 

Glad to see you did end up posting the regimen.. and it was helpful.. thank you :)

 

But I have a question..you said eliminate orange juice.. what about the brand Simply Orange? it contains nothing but oranges.. and is not from concentrate.. or is it just oranges in general that you think are bad?

I noticed orange juice with onions have helped my skin as both are anti-inflammatory..

 

 

Yum orange juice with onion in it??? Or sepatate Marlena?

I drink pure orange juice too, love onions in everything.......

Necro is this still bad?

Gave up on all drinks with splenda that helped, but have I glass of pure orange juice to start my morning?

Good question Marlena, spicing things up maybe with onions, and maybe garlic, instead of the condiments??

What do you think Necromancer???????

Oh Necro also Tamari, or Bragg is a bit better than soy sauce. (A natural Dr. told me this)????? :)

 

 

To really sum up what I drink daily - milk and water. If you really must drink a juice - I recommend apple juice over any other type of juice because of its pH. Top juices I used to drink but no more even though I liked them are: citrus juices, sunny delights, simply orange, most other orange juices, grape fruit juice, and most other fruit drinks that are naturally squeezed to be made.

 

I don't spice anything up and I have sacrificed taste for pretty much all foods. I just personally feel my skin is more important than what I eat and whether what I eat taste good or not. It takes awhile to break this habit but when you think about what makes you happy in life, I think most people would like to have the best skin they can possibly have.

 

Example of food I cook: baked chicken. All I do is get a 1lb or so of chicken breast in the meat section of the grocery store. I clean it off with water and then I bake it and then eat it. It is very plain but I have never known it to cause any acne - and it shouldn't because chicken is a very clean food to eat as far as what is inside of it.

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Posted : 09/16/2006 10:03 pm

Necro some confusion here baking chicken with onion or rubbing it with natural garlic?

Do onions or garlic make you break out?

I am willing to sacrifice all spices, give it a go, but natural foods like that for flavor do you disagree with them?

Also I am like down to just water for a bit, maybe try apple juice occasionally cause I really break out with milk/dairy products.

 

I was on that stupid diet (not to lose wieght, just for health) "eat for your blood type". It sucked, and I ended up gaining weight, consuming less calories. I ditched it and ate whatever, and lost the weight :doh:

 

Also what do you think of tofu, and soya burgers, I tend to avoid beef, but like you still eat the odd steak.

Thanks :D

 

What I think you should do as you are getting so many questions, maybe it would be less time consuming for you in the long run, is to make a list of 1) foods I avoid, and 2) foods I approve. Post it and it would help us all greatly, could yu do that for us? It would be great!!!

 

 

 

 

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Posted : 09/16/2006 10:11 pm

haha.. no I don't eat them together.. what I'd do was cut the onions into tiny pieces then put a handful in my mouth and swallow with orange juice.. i did this because I had read how good onion was for skin..... and I after a few times it got REALLY hard to just chew and eat the onion plain.. but because of that and how much I loved orange juice I was drinking almost the entire simply orange container in one day... so I'm going to cut that orange juice out then.. and all beverages but water.. (milk makes my skin horrible)..

I'm going to have to figure out how to get onions in my diet..

thank you necromancer :)..

 

ugh.. I feel so hopeless right now.. today I had a really bad break out.. and not exactly sure why.. I was eating badly.. but not that badly.. it might have been because I started actually drinking diet soda again.. (even though I only drank it once each day).. I'm going to make sure to stay away from that stuff..

and watch what I eat these next few days.. I've never seen such a bad break out from my skin.. and I have a mandatory school camping trip on monday :(

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 09/16/2006 10:16 pm

Necro some confusion here baking chicken with onion or rubbing it with natural garlic?

Do onions or garlic make you break out?

I am willing to sacrifice all spices, give it a go, but natural foods like that for flavor do you disagree with them?

Also I am like down to just water for a bit, maybe try apple juice occasionally cause I really break out with milk/dairy products.

 

I was on that stupid diet (not to lose wieght, just for health) "eat for your blood type". It sucked, and I ended up gaining weight, consuming less calories. I ditched it and ate whatever, and lost the weight :doh:

 

Also what do you think of tofu, and soya burgers, I tend to avoid beef, but like you still eat the odd steak.

Thanks :D

 

What I think you should do as you are getting so many questions, maybe it would be less time consuming for you in the long run, is to make a list of 1) foods I avoid, and 2) foods I approve. Post it and it would help us all greatly, could yu do that for us? It would be great!!!

 

 

I can't say yes or no with onion's or garlic. I don't see why they would be a major contributor to acne. I don't break out from them, I just don't use them (like ketchup).

 

I am not into diets. But yeah that sucks that you were on one that totally didn't work.

 

Tofu is great to eat. I don't eat it but it should not cause acne if prepared naturally. Any fish or seafood for that matter should be ok to eat. But some people react differently because seafood is usually prepared with a lot of salt so watch out for this.

 

I will try to do that. But there will be skeptics and also foods I approve like milk aggravates acne for a lot of people. For now I might just do it for a individual basis.

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Posted : 09/17/2006 1:02 pm

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Vegetables and fruits should be eaten daily but not overboard like I have seen in some regimens. More vegetables or more fruits are just as bad as having none. This is because eating more than 30-40 grams of fiber per day will adversely affect vitamin and mineral absorption. This is why I will never recommend becoming a vegetarian in hopes of improving your acne. You are just substituting one extreme for another and will often not see improved results. I have also seen many people have a misconception on what are good vegetables and they question why they aren‚„t seeing results. One of the reasons to eat vegetables and fruits is to take in fiber for proper digestion. However, lettuce, tomatoes, and celery are terrible fiber sources. I eat daily the only vegetables: green beans, spinach, and peas. For vegetables I eat only watermelon and bananas. It is really that simple.

 

 

Necro where have you learn that to much vegetables and fruits are bad ? I definitely do not agree with you!

By the way watermelon and bananas are not vegetables! ;)

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Posted : 09/17/2006 1:40 pm

 

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Vegetables and fruits should be eaten daily but not overboard like I have seen in some regimens. More vegetables or more fruits are just as bad as having none. This is because eating more than 30-40 grams of fiber per day will adversely affect vitamin and mineral absorption. This is why I will never recommend becoming a vegetarian in hopes of improving your acne. You are just substituting one extreme for another and will often not see improved results. I have also seen many people have a misconception on what are good vegetables and they question why they aren‚„t seeing results. One of the reasons to eat vegetables and fruits is to take in fiber for proper digestion. However, lettuce, tomatoes, and celery are terrible fiber sources. I eat daily the only vegetables: green beans, spinach, and peas. For vegetables I eat only watermelon and bananas. It is really that simple.

 

 

Necro where have you learn that to much vegetables and fruits are bad ? I definitely do not agree with you!

By the way watermelon and bananas are not vegetables! ;)

 

 

The problem with vegetarians and people that eat a lot of vegetables and fruits his that they also over eat grains and cereals. If your only fiber intake his from vegatables and fruits you can eat them has much has you want!

 

 

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Posted : 09/17/2006 3:56 pm

I'm definitely going to try not to pick or touch my face anymore because of what you said. I've tried many times before and given up. It's such a hard habit to break. I do it unconsciously, but need to stop NOW.

 

Just a thought about the diet....I notice that if I drink only 1/4 c of orange juice or 100 percent grape juice along WITH a meal ....the sugar load/ insulin-hormone response doesn't seem to aggravate my acne.

 

Question1: Milk gives me flashing light headaches. Can a person eat yogurt? If so, only plain or is the fruit on the bottom ok?

 

Question2: Do you drink water with the chlorine? Or chlorine free water (DISTILLED)? I've heard chlorine kills off the good, probiotic bacteria in the digestive tract.

 

 

Question3: I eat celery, red cabbage and mini cucumbers all the time. Could these vegetables be bad in any way? Which vegetables and fruits should a person AVOID in your opinion?

 

Question4: Can't remember if you covered this or not.... what is your opinion on walnuts and peanuts?

 

 

 

 

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 09/17/2006 4:47 pm

 

500th Post

Vegetables and fruits should be eaten daily but not overboard like I have seen in some regimens. More vegetables or more fruits are just as bad as having none. This is because eating more than 30-40 grams of fiber per day will adversely affect vitamin and mineral absorption. This is why I will never recommend becoming a vegetarian in hopes of improving your acne. You are just substituting one extreme for another and will often not see improved results. I have also seen many people have a misconception on what are good vegetables and they question why they aren‚„t seeing results. One of the reasons to eat vegetables and fruits is to take in fiber for proper digestion. However, lettuce, tomatoes, and celery are terrible fiber sources. I eat daily the only vegetables: green beans, spinach, and peas. For vegetables I eat only watermelon and bananas. It is really that simple.

 

 

Necro where have you learn that to much vegetables and fruits are bad ? I definitely do not agree with you!

By the way watermelon and bananas are not vegetables! ;)

 

 

Too much fiber intake prevents your body from absorbing vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients. I spend one whole summer eating nothing but fruit and vegetable plates and wondered why my skin was worse than before. Just eat the recommended daily allowance or whatever matches with what you eat in meats, dairy, and other food products.

 

I didn't say watermelons and bananas are vegetables.

 

 

 

 

500th Post

Vegetables and fruits should be eaten daily but not overboard like I have seen in some regimens. More vegetables or more fruits are just as bad as having none. This is because eating more than 30-40 grams of fiber per day will adversely affect vitamin and mineral absorption. This is why I will never recommend becoming a vegetarian in hopes of improving your acne. You are just substituting one extreme for another and will often not see improved results. I have also seen many people have a misconception on what are good vegetables and they question why they aren‚„t seeing results. One of the reasons to eat vegetables and fruits is to take in fiber for proper digestion. However, lettuce, tomatoes, and celery are terrible fiber sources. I eat daily the only vegetables: green beans, spinach, and peas. For vegetables I eat only watermelon and bananas. It is really that simple.

 

 

Necro where have you learn that to much vegetables and fruits are bad ? I definitely do not agree with you!

By the way watermelon and bananas are not vegetables! ;)

 

 

The problem with vegetarians and people that eat a lot of vegetables and fruits his that they also over eat grains and cereals. If your only fiber intake his from vegatables and fruits you can eat them has much has you want!

 

 

Agree kind of. I don't think your only food sources should be only vegetables and fruits. I also say there is a limit on what you should eat in these areas. You will wind up ejecting most of the food you eat out in the bathroom because the human body can't digest that amount of fiber in one time. Same thing with meats and proteins. Eating 1 lbs of chicken or any other meat in one sitting is a waste and most of the protein will be ejected out in the bathroom. That's why it is recommended to eat smaller meals over a course of a day - whether you are a bodybuilder, athlete, or regular person wanting to be healthy.

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Posted : 09/17/2006 4:58 pm

I'm definitely going to try not to pick or touch my face anymore because of what you said. I've tried many times before and given up. It's such a hard habit to break. I do it unconsciously, but need to stop NOW.

 

Just a thought about the diet....I notice that if I drink only 1/4 c of orange juice or 100 percent grape juice along WITH a meal ....the sugar load/ insulin-hormone response doesn't seem to aggravate my acne.

 

Question1: Milk gives me flashing light headaches. Can a person eat yogurt? If so, only plain or is the fruit on the bottom ok?

 

Question2: Do you drink water with the chlorine? Or chlorine free water (DISTILLED)? I've heard chlorine kills off the good, probiotic bacteria in the digestive tract.

 

 

Question3: I eat celery, red cabbage and mini cucumbers all the time. Could these vegetables be bad in any way? Which vegetables and fruits should a person AVOID in your opinion?

 

Question4: Can't remember if you covered this or not.... what is your opinion on walnuts and peanuts?

 

 

Yeah, if you want to see the biggest improvements by doing one thing, that is to stop touching your face entirely. Good luck with it.

 

Yeah orange juice and other acidic natural fruit drinks reacts different for people. But, I have seen over the years with people with mild to very lightly moderate acne, some of it is due to acidic drinks like this. Something irritates the skin when so much acid is put in the system which is partly used to create sweat. I tend to think of it that what you drink makes up a lot of what you sweat and what oil is created.

 

Q1: I don't eat yogurt or any ice cream. You can try it if you want but I don't recommend it when you are trying to eliminate acne because it serves no real health benefit relative to other food sources.

 

Q2: I drink water everywhere - tap, water fountains, bottled water, and spring water. Only difference in water sources are those that contain chlorine and flouride which HELPS keep teeth white and cavity free. I never had a cavity in my life and never had teeth issues except for straightening them.

 

Q3: Too many to list. For you I'd say keep the celery and cucumbers and eat them raw and cold for maximum benefits. I am not familiar with red cabbage, but generally cabbage is a poor food source when it comes to nutrients. The problem with fruits and vegetables is that people add all these additional things to make them taste good. If you can stand the taste, eat them all plain and raw when possible. Ex: people eat strawberry's with sugar, corn with butter, baked potatoes with everything on the planet (I eat baked potatoes plain and all of it - including skin because the skin has the most Vitamin A density).

 

Q4: Walnuts and peanuts usually have to much salt and I stay away from them. Peanut butter is known to be terrible for acne sufferers. When I eat peanuts I break out consistently. If I eat peanuts, it's rarely and only in shell form - not the way they come in those Planters containers with salt to the max.

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Posted : 09/17/2006 6:20 pm

one question about your little removal method with the surgical tweezers. so if its a white head and i remove the top layer, do i just let the yellow/white puss sit there? should i apply alcohol right after?

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 09/17/2006 6:55 pm

one question about your little removal method with the surgical tweezers. so if its a white head and i remove the top layer, do i just let the yellow/white puss sit there? should i apply alcohol right after?

 

 

I may have to post a sample of when I do it. But, if it is a white head and you have weighed the pros and cons of trying to manually remove the pimple, you take the surgical tweezers and pierce and remove as little skin as possible and let the puss leak out. The blood pressure in the body should push it out on its own. This eliminates infection and pushing any of the puss back in the skin deeper. When it scabs, just wash face or shower as normal and this should level out the spot where the pimple was and it should be healed quickly and with no scar.

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Posted : 09/17/2006 6:58 pm

 

one question about your little removal method with the surgical tweezers. so if its a white head and i remove the top layer, do i just let the yellow/white puss sit there? should i apply alcohol right after?

 

 

I may have to post a sample of when I do it. But, if it is a white head and you have weighed the pros and cons of trying to manually remove the pimple, you take the surgical tweezers and pierce and remove as little skin as possible and let the puss leak out. The blood pressure in the body should push it out on its own. This eliminates infection and pushing any of the puss back in the skin deeper. When it scabs, just wash face or shower as normal and this should level out the spot where the pimple was and it should be healed quickly and with no scar.

 

 

Nice method of extraction, but i'd suggest applying a mild topical anti-biotic or perhaps a dab of diluted Tea Tree Oil post purging. You need to avoid the spread of infection, leaving an open wound is careless.

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(@necromancer)

Posted : 09/17/2006 7:03 pm

 

 

one question about your little removal method with the surgical tweezers. so if its a white head and i remove the top layer, do i just let the yellow/white puss sit there? should i apply alcohol right after?

 

 

I may have to post a sample of when I do it. But, if it is a white head and you have weighed the pros and cons of trying to manually remove the pimple, you take the surgical tweezers and pierce and remove as little skin as possible and let the puss leak out. The blood pressure in the body should push it out on its own. This eliminates infection and pushing any of the puss back in the skin deeper. When it scabs, just wash face or shower as normal and this should level out the spot where the pimple was and it should be healed quickly and with no scar.

 

 

Nice method of extraction, but i'd suggest applying a mild topical anti-biotic or perhaps a dab of diluted Tea Tree Oil post purging. You need to avoid the spread of infection, leaving an open wound is careless.

 

 

Not disagreeing but, I have found that many many times when I applied something like neosporin, tea tree oil, or any other infection preventer, I just got more puss in that region and another pimple would return in the same spot. Like, if the spot scabbed over, their would be a pimple form under the scab and I would be back at square one. I think it depends on the skin chemistry in people but applying nothing for at least 24 hours is what I recommend.

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Posted : 09/17/2006 7:16 pm

nice stuff, a basic guide line kinda thingy. w/e

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Posted : 09/17/2006 8:55 pm

actually i gots a question regarding air drying. is that simply just letting the water sit on ur face and letting it dry?

 

also, i shower in the morning, sometimes after school or workout, which is around 6ish, and at night. if i do wut u do, should i just do dat 2 or 3 times?

 

also the vaseline boxy complexion thing, can i find that at local markets?

 

i like ur regimen, its cool...for now =D

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(@allenn812)

Posted : 09/17/2006 10:17 pm

lol, your regimen is retarded. Your pretty much asking people to totaly change there diet. And the whole vitimin thing? GARBAGE, theres actually no proof that vitimin pills do anything. If you want vitimens, eat right. Also, people wanted yer regimen, not your whole life story.

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(@fuzion)

Posted : 09/17/2006 11:16 pm

This is the first I've heard of orange juice causing acne? What is up with that?

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