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do you ever wash your face with soap or no? cause i feel dirty when i don't.
i think if you really need facial soap, use cetaphil, it's nice and gentle
also, for me beef doesn't cause breakouts, but are you sure it causes breakouts? beef is a really good source of protein.
and finally, do you not beleave in applying BP to whole face for prevention purposes?
good read. Case closed.
do you ever wash your face with soap or no? cause i feel dirty when i don't.
i think if you really need facial soap, use cetaphil, it's nice and gentle
also, for me beef doesn't cause breakouts, but are you sure it causes breakouts? beef is a really good source of protein.
and finally, do you not beleave in applying BP to whole face for prevention purposes?
good read. Case closed.
I never wash my face with soap. I used to years ago, but that was one of the first things I cut out after doing research of what is in soap and what it does to at least my skin - dry it out and aggravate acne. I use the Neutrogena Body Wash in the shower that is intended for the body. I have found that it is the best product I have used that simulates soap. But if I wash my face during the day, I only use warm water. By warm, I mean water that you closely matches the temperature of your skin which is usually between 90-92 F.
I just don't eat beef right now because it usually has more fat than chicken or turkey. I already consume too much fat (a side effect of bulking for bodybuilding), so I try to cut it out of my diet the best I can. I do have steaks every now and then.
I only apply BP on the spots with acne. I used to think like you do with prevention purposes. I have found that statistically I get a lot more acne in more spots. Therefore, I only use it when needed, several times a day on the pimples themselves.
Thanks for post compliment.
Necro- thanks for posting, if all your posts were this descent you would get more respect around here..I have (many) but only time for one quick question as I have to leave for work shortly. You say not to season foods with salt, spices etc. yet you eat Chinese take out, hotdogs and boxed macaroni & cheese which is laden with salt and chemical. This makes no sense. care to elaborate? thanks and oh yes...Case closed.
BTW have a remedy for eye pain?..I wear gas perms and after reading your long story..my eyes are toast...lol
Necro- thanks for posting, if all your posts were this descent you would get more respect around here..I have (many) but only time for one quick question as I have to leave for work shortly. You say not to season foods with salt, spices etc. yet you eat Chinese take out, hotdogs and boxed macaroni & cheese which is laden with salt and chemical. This makes no sense. care to elaborate? thanks and oh yes...Case closed.
I never add condiments to food that is prepared by people other than me. Yes, there are occasions where I can't control it, like soy sauce with Chinese food. For everything else, and I mean everything, I never use condiments. I have actually been known by friends and family since I started having acne to never use condiments because I 1) didn't feel they were necessary for the food and I'd rather eat the food plain 2) if I didn't have the condiments in a future time, I would have no reason to complain (like steak sauce for steaks) 3) I found out years ago, for some people, especially those with mild-moderate acne like myself, that a lot of their acne problems have to do with spices, salts, and other additions to everyday food.
I also don't eat hotdogs except a few times a year. I eat mostly chicken. Everywhere I go actually family and friends makes sure they have chicken as a menu item.
I try to minimize macaroni & cheese just like the spices.
I have found that spinach and green beans are two of the best foods overall to improve acne in case you have eaten something that is spicy or irregular with your current diet because of its vitamins, minerals, and fiber content.
Necro- thanks for posting, if all your posts were this descent you would get more respect around here..I have (many) but only time for one quick question as I have to leave for work shortly. You say not to season foods with salt, spices etc. yet you eat Chinese take out, hotdogs and boxed macaroni & cheese which is laden with salt and chemical. This makes no sense. care to elaborate? thanks and oh yes...Case closed.
BTW have a remedy for eye pain?..I wear gas perms and after reading your long story..my eyes are toast...lol
I had to go to the optomotrist because my eyes were so torn up (the white part of the eye), that the doctor said I couldn't wear them anymore. I used visine for about a year and then got rid of the contacts or I would go blind again.
Also, I don't think I could ever use contacts again because my skin is too oily and go in between my contacts and eye lens.
2/502 posts from you that i actually agree with (although not entirely) and isn't mocking. keep this up and i'l prob stop hating on you.
Thanks. 
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EXTREME ACNE-FREE REGIMEN by Necromancer
I wrote this in order to aid and help those that are suffering from mild to lightly moderate acne and have had no real success with their acne treatments.
For human health, three processes are necessary and they include appropriation (taking in food, water, air etc.), assimilation (absorbing nutrients) and elimination (expelling waste or toxins). If any of these three processes become unbalanced, that leads to less than perfect health. If the digestive system (which does the work of assimilation) gets sluggish due to various reasons (unique for each person‚„s body), then waste products may be expelled through the skin as blocked pores and acne. There are many factors which affect the digestive system, both internal and external, such as stress, which might cause indigestion, nausea, vomiting, gas and diarrhea. Stress (which I have already mentioned) can cause damage to digestion which results in bad skin conditions. That is why I continue to say to avoid stress at all costs by doing something that will take your mind off stressful things or situations.
Weak digestive systems fail to create enough hydrochloric acid which in turn affects liver function. The liver is responsible for processing toxins and once liver functions are affected, toxins start accumulating in the body tissue and organs. Liver malfunction also gives rise to another problem. It creates glandular problems which result in hormonal imbalance. Hormones play an important role in the development of acne, and this surely worsens the acne condition.
Hey Necromancer - I pulled this quote from your little write-up b/c I was wondering why you didn't just paste the link where you got this from:
http://www.acne-resource.org/understanding...-digestive.html
Plagiarism. Tsk tsk! You know what gave you away? When I saw you used the word "appropriation", I did a google search, b/c I wasn't convinced you would have used that word on your own. And low and behold your source was revealed!
2/502 posts from you that i actually agree with (although not entirely) and isn't mocking. keep this up and i'l prob stop hating on you.
ditto...
BTW...thanks for your quick response but.. you didn't answer my salt question above...
Try to minimize salt whenever possible. If you eat enough vegetables and drink enough water to counteract any aggravations that would be caused by salt, then you should be good. As you saw from my diet, there is very little sugar, and I have found through other people that have used this regimen and through personal research, that sugar is a far greater acne aggravator than salt is.
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EXTREME ACNE-FREE REGIMEN by Necromancer
I wrote this in order to aid and help those that are suffering from mild to lightly moderate acne and have had no real success with their acne treatments.
For human health, three processes are necessary and they include appropriation (taking in food, water, air etc.), assimilation (absorbing nutrients) and elimination (expelling waste or toxins). If any of these three processes become unbalanced, that leads to less than perfect health. If the digestive system (which does the work of assimilation) gets sluggish due to various reasons (unique for each person‚„s body), then waste products may be expelled through the skin as blocked pores and acne. There are many factors which affect the digestive system, both internal and external, such as stress, which might cause indigestion, nausea, vomiting, gas and diarrhea. Stress (which I have already mentioned) can cause damage to digestion which results in bad skin conditions. That is why I continue to say to avoid stress at all costs by doing something that will take your mind off stressful things or situations.
Weak digestive systems fail to create enough hydrochloric acid which in turn affects liver function. The liver is responsible for processing toxins and once liver functions are affected, toxins start accumulating in the body tissue and organs. Liver malfunction also gives rise to another problem. It creates glandular problems which result in hormonal imbalance. Hormones play an important role in the development of acne, and this surely worsens the acne condition.
Hey Necromancer - I pulled this quote from your little write-up b/c I was wondering why you didn't just paste the link where you got this from:
http://www.acne-resource.org/understanding...-digestive.html
Plagiarism. Tsk tsk! You know what gave you away? When I saw you used the word "appropriation", I did a google search, b/c I wasn't convinced you would have used that word on your own. And low and behold your source was revealed!
This part of the regimen was to give a few reasons people should maintain a good diet when it pertains to acne. That is on many sites on the internet, is not new information, and is not a part of my actual regimen.
why are there no case closeds and :ninja:s
Because I am currently open for questions and comments. Also, I took this post seriously and whoever wants to take it seriously and try to follow it would probably not want to get aggravated by my catch phrases or my ski mask.
Having oily skin does sometimes cause acne. I didn't have as oily skin when I was a bit younger and rarely broke out. Now that I'm more oily, I have more break outs and blackheads.
Why do you think Accutane clears acne? It destroys your oil glands, dries you up like a prune and therefore eliminating the substance on which acne lesions thrive.
Yes. Accutane is the only prescription drug I recommend to people that can't follow the routines like this one. The detailed drug information is on www.fda.gov and I feel that for cases worse than mine, that no matter what you do with routines like mine, you will have acne. It does dry you up in addition to changing the body chemistry and the main functions that cause acne. However, if you body is somehow able to create acne after Accutane, then you are in some bad shape as the acne usually comes back worse than ever before.
Necromancer said:
(I screwed up the reply sorry)
Yes. Accutane is the only prescription drug I recommend to people that can't follow the routines like this one. The detailed drug information is on www.fda.gov and I feel that for cases worse than mine, that no matter what you do with routines like mine, you will have acne. It does dry you up in addition to changing the body chemistry and the main functions that cause acne. However, if you body is somehow able to create acne after Accutane, then you are in some bad shape as the acne usually comes back worse than ever before.
-Wake up for work at 6:00 am:-Go to the bathroom
-Apply BP on any areas where there are pimples (usually none). I circle both ways counterclockwise and clockwise around the base of the pimple.
-Meal 1: I eat on average 4 eggs, 4 waffles, 1 banana, 1 glass of milk, and 1 Centrum tablet (half way through the meal.
-*Meal 2: I eat 1 pure protein bar half way between breakfast and lunch while consuming 2-3 bottles of water
-Meal 3: For aoeluncha?, I eat usually a meat or fish of some type (chicken, salmon, turkey, or catfish) and 2 vegetables side dishes, with no drink
-I leave work, having never touched my face once even though by this time my face is a little oily
-On the way home, I usually order some more food, usually Chinese takeout.
-Meal 4: I eat chicken with broccoli and a fortune cookie
-I get home and I check my face as it is pretty oily. Depending on if it is aoelift daya? or not, I will wash my face gently with warm water and air dry. After the face is dry, I will apply BP to the spots I feel are prone to breakouts. If needed I will aoeremovea? any acne I think is required. Usually I wonat wash my face until I shower.
-Meal 5: I cook 1lb of chicken breast (baked) with macaroni and cheese. I usually then cook a whole can of either French green beans or spinach. I eat 0.33 lb of chicken breast, the whole box of macaroni and cheese, the entire can of vegetables and a glass of milk
-If itas aoelift daya?, I go to the gym
-*Meal 6: I consume one glass of Mighty 3000 or ProLab NLarge 2
-aoeExternal Regimena? is located below
-Sleep at around 12:00 am
Ok Except for the applying of BP part of this, the rest has basically been taken from a bb'ing website. Nothing to do with curing acne whatsoever. This regimen is a basic newbie bodybuilding one, a very basic one at that, and would more than likely cause a lot of people here to pack on the fat while not been gym regulars. So your great "diet" is gonna make acne sufferers have weight issues aswell... Well done fool
And why the need t copy and a lot of your article, its easily available on the net for us to read without you having to con people into believing its your own work
Gwerty, I'll say this once and I'll say it nicely - and for anyone else who wants to get their panties in a twist.
Don't provoke. It doesn't matter if he copied it or not - let's face it - all research on this board is both a matter of trial and error AND learning facts from somewhere else.
This is a personal regimen log - NOT a debate.
And yes, Case Closed.
Yes. Accutane is the only prescription drug I recommend to people that can't follow the routines like this one. The detailed drug information is on www.fda.gov and I feel that for cases worse than mine, that no matter what you do with routines like mine, you will have acne. It does dry you up in addition to changing the body chemistry and the main functions that cause acne. However, if you body is somehow able to create acne after Accutane, then you are in some bad shape as the acne usually comes back worse than ever before.
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Well I used it like 12 years ago for like 15 months 80-90 mg/day.
Used a retin A for prevention. (Not now just BP). Odd zit and stuff......
Now if I get acne it is mild, and stubborn, but the BP looks after it in a few days.....some take a week, deep ones you can't see just feel, 2 weeks.
So I never had it come back worse, I wish it had always been like this.
But I wan't NONE now!!!!!!
Your regimen seems good. A big problem for the salt and pepper though.......
What else can you use like natural stuff for flavor. Any ideas???
I love lifting as well, treadmill with leg weights, etc. Have a home gym with a few fans going to keep my face dry so the sweat doesnt just sit there.
I dry my face with a paper towel after washing...bad? Why? Each roll is in a plastic wrap.
But not all accutane users will stay acne free after. And they all don't have severe problems after. Just mild acne. Everyones different though, and the tane slows down the sebacious glands but does not keep them from producing oil forever right?
Thanks for finally posting, I printed it to read in more detail later.
Yeah Accutane is able to get the oil production down to a very low level for many people. This results in many people being clear of acne or having very mild acne. For some unlucky people, their body is able to "fight" against the Accutane and continue to produce oil and result in more acne whether this be because the glands and body chemistry has changed or other reasons.
I have found that air drying is the best method. Usually with towels, clothes, and napkins, I feel you are giving more chances to irritate your skin with the chemicals that were used to make these products, the possible lint, dust, or debris that could be in them, and I just don't think they can be as clean as just air drying your skin.
I don't care about flavors in food anymore. I gave that up years ago. I can eat pretty much anything that most people would find disgusting, dry, or unbearable. I just decided that my acne and having a clear face was more important in the long run because I didn't want to have a bunch of scars on my face with acne I felt I could have at least tried to eliminate by not using these condiments.
Good luck.
-Wake up for work at 6:00 am:-Go to the bathroom
-...
-‚Å“External Regimen‚? is located below
-Sleep at around 12:00 am
Ok Except for the applying of BP part of this, the rest has basically been taken from a bb'ing website. Nothing to do with curing acne whatsoever. This regimen is a basic newbie bodybuilding one, a very basic one at that, and would more than likely cause a lot of people here to pack on the fat while not been gym regulars. So your great "diet" is gonna make acne sufferers have weight issues aswell... Well done fool
And why the need t copy and a lot of your article, its easily available on the net for us to read without you having to con people into believing its your own work
You obviously didn't see the whole picture and no this wasn't taken from a bodybuilding website or any other website. What you have posted above is a sample day because people were asking for an actual sample diet. This diet is for me now through December of this year. After that I will be going on a much stricter diet that more follows the Regimen.
Aside from about 3-4 paragraphs that were used to give some support of the reasons for what I am doing, although I would have been fine with not posting reasons, the other 120 or so paragraphs are mine. Examples include my diet, how I wash my face, the products I use (i.e. I never have seen anyone use vasoline on their face), restriction on condiments, shower routine, using products designed for body use only on the face, the entire chapter 4 (which is why I have no scars), the FAQ section which are what I feel are popular questions debated on Acne.org, and the opinions in the introduction and conclusions of this document.
If you don't feel this Regimen will work or is unrealistic, then that is fine. But, I have found that by giving a couple of key suggestions to friends and people in classes when I was in H.S. and college, those people were able to see results or were able to find out information they didn't know before or didn't think about before.
Gwerty, I'll say this once and I'll say it nicely - and for anyone else who wants to get their panties in a twist.
Don't provoke. It doesn't matter if he copied it or not - let's face it - all research on this board is both a matter of trial and error AND learning facts from somewhere else.
This is a personal regimen log - NOT a debate.
And yes, Case Closed.
Thanks for the support. Yes, this is my regimen. I feel it works to some degree nearly 100% of the time with those that had/have mild/lightly moderate acne. I will say however, that some of the stuff will need to be explained with pictures or better in person. But, this document should give you a good start.
Gwerty, I'll say this once and I'll say it nicely - and for anyone else who wants to get their panties in a twist.
Don't provoke. It doesn't matter if he copied it or not - let's face it - all research on this board is both a matter of trial and error AND learning facts from somewhere else.
I will also say this once and I'll say it nicely - I aint provoking anything and I aint getting my panties in any twists that werent already there. Its a forum, people diagree with other people. Thats life.
Sounds Good CASE CLOSED INDEED... I especially like the idea of avoiding overwashing.
Sugar and idoized salt (in condiments, ramen, prepared foods) and caffeinated sodas definitely cause breakouts for acne prone people.
Question though...
if soap and touching your face is so harsh and acne aggravating, then why keep using BP at all?
BP works by chemically tearing up oil/skin zit impactions.
So BP has to be just as harsh or more than gently touching your face.
What do you do when your face itches?
Sounds Good CASE CLOSED INDEED... I especially like the idea of avoiding overwashing.
Sugar and idoized salt (in condiments, ramen, prepared foods) and caffeinated sodas definitely cause breakouts for acne prone people.
Question though...
if soap and touching your face is so harsh and acne aggravating, then why keep using BP at all?
BP works by chemically tearing up oil/skin zit impactions.
So BP has to be just as harsh or more than gently touching your face.
What do you do when your face itches?
Thanks for compliments.
I use BP because it's the only cream that works. I use the Neutrogena version not the CSR which I was told was a gel or something. I don't apply it to my whole face just to the few pimples I get sometimes. I apply it so many times throughout the day that the pimple dries up within 1-2 days or at least starts going down in size. This helps in eliminating chances for scars because I won't have to remove the pimple manually.
I do the same thing that when other places itch. I just don't do it. It takes a lot of discipline but it is required if you are going to get anywhere when it comes to not touching your face.
how many times do you wash your face a day with the salicylic acid wash? And are there days where you dont end up even using the BP at all ? And about that moisturizer.. is that a body moisurizer and do know what the % of AHA is in it?
I don't wash my face with anything except water. Please reread the regimen. I use the body wash version of the Neutrogena wash and apply it to my face during the shower and leave it on for 2 minutes. Then rinse it off. Most days, this is the only time I do any washing to the face. And yes, my face gets very oily but it does not have any acne.
It is a body moisturizer. Everything I use for the body like back, shoulders, etc. I use for the face. I don't agree with other people that saying body products are too harsh for the face.
I don't understand your last question with AHA.
I don't understand your last question with AHA.
I believe they want to know what % of AHA's are in the moisturiser. They're most likely lactic and glycolic acids, probably have %'s written in bold on the packet.
It isn't listed on it. It comes in a pretty large container as I have been using the 1st one I bought several years ago. It's by far the best moisturizer I ever used. I never seen anyone else use it though because it is supposed to be used for the body.
Here are some things from the back:
-Alpha Hydroxy
-Contains Vitamins A & E
-Non-greasy (This one is definitely true as I have used other ones that have been nasty and created so much oil on my face)
-Improves skin texture
-Diminishes spots (Definitely)
-It has a bunch of ingredients that covers the rest of the container
I don't understand your last question with AHA.
I believe they want to know what % of AHA's are in the moisturiser. They're most likely lactic and glycolic acids, probably have %'s written in bold on the packet.
It isn't listed on it. It comes in a pretty large container as I have been using the 1st one I bought several years ago. It's by far the best moisturizer I ever used. I never seen anyone else use it though because it is supposed to be used for the body.
Here are some things from the back:
-Alpha Hydroxy
Can you find what Alpha Hydroxy Acids are in it? They should be in the list. Alpha Hydroxy is simply a group of acids, the term AHA is very non specific. Plus they really should give %'s, if only to work out pH levels.