Hello Ladies! and guys too

Since you mentioned Wen, I thought I'd put in my 2 cents. I just started using it recently and I have body acne. So for me any conditioner is a concern.

Basically I would have to condition my hair first, keeping it off my back by leaning to the side and clipping it up to work it's magic. When I rinse, I lean way back so that the water falls straight down through my hair and not over my skin. Then I clip it back up and wash my body making sure to get any hair products off.

Now...I had extremely damaged hair. It is supposed to be a little past my shoulders, thick, and slightly wavy. But it had gotten to the point where the entire top layer of my hair was like straw, crunchy, and so damaged I had strands that were cork-screwed! If you looked at an individual strand close up you could see the tiny cracks, bends and breakage. Running my finger down the shafts was like sandpaper, and this horrible layer sat on top of my head with no way to hide it. I had stopped flat ironing over a year ago and tried not blow drying also, I don't know how this happened. My hairdresser spent the entire time asking me questions about what I had done.

The point is my hair made me almost as self conscious as my acne had, and shampoo made it worse. I finally broke down and got WEN. In one week, my hair is normal again! Wen might not work for everyone but it saved my hair. I thought I was gonna have to cut it off, but it's back And yes, I've heard countless people on my other forum say how much it helps hair growth!

WEN does do what they say it does...I am going to watch to see how much I use over time and estimate the long term cost. Don't get it from Guthy-Renker (that is a HORRIBLE deal). It's cheapest at QVC, and when there is a WEN show it goes on sale even lower and you can try it and return it. Check eBay, sometimes people sell the scents they don't like for cheap.

I take the time to tell you how much WEN has helped me because for me it is the DK Regimen for hair. If your skin is affecting your life, you do something about it. If your hair damage is affecting your life, this is something you can try.

If you have decent hair then maybe you don't need Wen, but if your hair affects your self-esteem like acne can, I want you to know this is worth every penny. I'm going to stop coloring my hair because I don't feel like I need it to make it look better. Wen enhances whatever color you have.

I got lazy and started just letting the WEN run all over my body when I rinse. I still clip it back up and wash my body after my hair but so far NO body breakouts. And there are no sulfates to strip hair or skin.

Feel free to PM me for tips; there is a learning curve. Not advertising, but I hear your concerns about hair and acne and this has truly helped me, without creating acne.

Hello Ladies! and guys too

 

Since you mentioned Wen, I thought I'd put in my 2 cents. I just started using it recently and I have body acne. So for me any conditioner is a concern.

 

Basically I would have to condition my hair first, keeping it off my back by leaning to the side and clipping it up to work it's magic. When I rinse, I lean way back so that the water falls straight down through my hair and not over my skin. Then I clip it back up and wash my body making sure to get any hair products off.

 

Now...I had extremely damaged hair. It is supposed to be a little past my shoulders, thick, and slightly wavy. But it had gotten to the point where the entire top layer of my hair was like straw, crunchy, and so damaged I had strands that were cork-screwed! If you looked at an individual strand close up you could see the tiny cracks, bends and breakage. Running my finger down the shafts was like sandpaper, and this horrible layer sat on top of my head with no way to hide it. I had stopped flat ironing over a year ago and tried not blow drying also, I don't know how this happened. My hairdresser spent the entire time asking me questions about what I had done.

 

The point is my hair made me almost as self conscious as my acne had, and shampoo made it worse. I finally broke down and got WEN. In one week, my hair is normal again! Wen might not work for everyone but it saved my hair. I thought I was gonna have to cut it off, but it's back And yes, I've heard countless people on my other forum say how much it helps hair growth!

 

WEN does do what they say it does...I am going to watch to see how much I use over time and estimate the long term cost. Don't get it from Guthy-Renker (that is a HORRIBLE deal). It's cheapest at QVC, and when there is a WEN show it goes on sale even lower and you can try it and return it. Check eBay, sometimes people sell the scents they don't like for cheap.

 

I take the time to tell you how much WEN has helped me because for me it is the DK Regimen for hair. If your skin is affecting your life, you do something about it. If your hair damage is affecting your life, this is something you can try.

 

If you have decent hair then maybe you don't need Wen, but if your hair affects your self-esteem like acne can, I want you to know this is worth every penny. I'm going to stop coloring my hair because I don't feel like I need it to make it look better. Wen enhances whatever color you have.

 

I got lazy and started just letting the WEN run all over my body when I rinse. I still clip it back up and wash my body after my hair but so far NO body breakouts. And there are no sulfates to strip hair or skin.

 

Feel free to PM me for tips; there is a learning curve. Not advertising, but I hear your concerns about hair and acne and this has truly helped me, without creating acne.

I've seen the commercials for this and I'm always almost sucked in by it. The only issue I have is that it's so costly and it seems like you have to use A LOT of it... so those two things in combination don't make it a very affordable option for poor folk like me. How much do you use on your hair? I saw on a commercial they were like "For short hair you need two million pumps and for long hair you need sixteen bottles."

I've seen the commercials for this and I'm always almost sucked in by it. The only issue I have is that it's so costly and it seems like you have to use A LOT of it... so those two things in combination don't make it a very affordable option for poor folk like me. How much do you use on your hair? I saw on a commercial they were like "For short hair you need two million pumps and for long hair you need sixteen bottles."

First off, I like the way you guys talk to each other and in general. Amara, Abigail, and Gutterflower. The way you describe things is just so interesting, I think.

I always feel prettier when my hair is curly for some reason. My hair texture is naturally wavy, so when I don't put the sea salt texturizing spray to make it curly, it stands up in every direction and curls out. It's just not good by any means. My hair is not even short either. It's about/almost to shoulder length. The downside to making my hair curly though is that it doesn't look good the next day, and I have to rewash my hair to do it all over again if I don't wear my hair up. I never straighten it anymore because my hair it thick too and it takes forever! I'm trying to grow out my hair, since I got it cut short back in February. I haven't had it long in 2 years, I think?

Uhhh, I've never had a problem with my shampoo, conditioner, serums, straightening stuff breaking me out. So right now, I'm using the conditioner twice method to see if I like that better than using shampoo. Like Sarah (I can't remember how to spell her current username) mentioned in a thread. So far, I'm liking it better than using shampoo. Time will tell though.

I also like coloring my hair. I dyed it 2 weeks ago, and it faded a lot, so I'm going to have to get it redyed again. Most likely professionally because I can't get store bought color to stay in my hair for more than 2 weeks. Why does my hair have to be so high maintenance? Whoo. Buzz-cut? No, I won't go that far.

TO get to the point, since I could talk about hair forever, I'm using the herbal essences color protection conditioner with acai berry. I like it. When I want to deep condition, I've been using the loreal sulfate free, color protection, deep conditioner. It has rosemary mint in it, and it's great. I like the smell, and I'm wishing I could buy whole haircare line with that smell. I used to use Aussie moisturizing shampoo.

Something weird I have to mention and probably off topic. I don't know if it works for anyone else...but, I use that head and shoulders shampoo with the zinc in it (used for dandruff hair) to help me shave my legs. Since it has zinc in it, I've noticed that I have less ingrown hairs on my legs, and less red bumps as I shave.

Haha, yeah, I am thankful to the Org for introducing me to Abi and Amara! They are cool chicks.

If my hair actually curled properly, I'm sure I'd feel much prettier. It seems to take donkey's years to dry, though, and it never dries glossy and soft, just a bit fluffy ball of uncool.

I dig Herbal Essences, I haven't used their shampoo and conditioner for years because I never think to, but I might get that next time I'm out. Anything that smells really strong takes my fancy. I like it when I take my hair out of a ponytail at the end of the day and it's like wading through a valley of roses. Whoooosh.

I have such issues with ingrown hairs and shaving rash on my legs. I tried AHA but it makes my legs more susceptible to sunburn, thus making it pointless to shave them. I'll have to try the H & S.

Stumbled upon this when answering another topic, just wanted to say that it amuses me how girls can talk so much about hair. *runs away*

Stumbled upon this when answering another topic, just wanted to say that it amuses me how girls can talk so much about hair. *runs away*

Says Paul... who has long hair!

pert plus 2 in 1 happy medium, cheap gets the job done

I wanted to dredge this topic up to say that I have not cut my hair as I said I would! And I very rarely straighten it. It's quite soft and shiny now too thanks to the Moroccan Oil (this little bottle has lasted me FOREVER). Hopefully by my 24th birthday I'll have decently long hair.

I've finally got it to a length where I can tame it by sleeping on it - I pull it into two low pigtails and band it twice along the length of my hair. Then in the morning it's all soft and wavy and shiny. I brush it with one of these suckers.

It's a bit crude but it feels great and doesn't tear at my hair. Since my hair doesn't actually turn into bouncy curls if I tie it up when I sleep, there's no curl to destroy by brushing it out so it's just nice and wavy.

I think I am coming to terms with having curly hair, finally.

I'm a hair care junkie. I'm OCD when it comes to hair care and products. Probably more so because I've always wanted that thick, long, healthy looking hair. I have long, fine, color-treated hair. Here is what I've tried and worked and some that fell flat.

1. Co-washing works. I wash my hair tops 2x a week. If I have not used a lot of products or heavy laced 'cones' I prefer a co-washing. Also, air drying your hair wrapped in a cloth tie makes for bounce and waves. Plus it saves my ends from being completely deystroyed. My ends seem to split no matter how gentle my routine. Nature of the beast.

2. Moroccan Oil-ehh. My hair/scalp got greasy way to quick for my liking. Plus it gave me pimples around my hairline. No thanks. I tried it only because it was in a swag bag. I always go back to Redken Anti-Snap. Great heat protection and protein/cermide treatment. It also smells like strawberry shortcake. Bonus.

3. I just recently switched to Pureology Shampoo/Conditioner products. Free of SLS which seems to help counteract my dry scalp. My best guess is I never had a dry scalp to begin with...it was probably caused by the SLS's that I know my skin has a sensitivity too. Time will tell. I just started but so far so good. I'm using the Repair Shampoo and the Hydrate Light Conditioner both by Pureology. I needed a balance of protein for repair and moisture(light). The conditioner on the first wash worked very well. No snags or tangles.

4. I hate hairspray. Dries my hair/scalp to bits. I prefer a Spray Wax. Soft hold with texture. Also, if I spray my hair with H20 it makes my curls bounce-not crunchy. I highly recommend Redkens Aerate. It's a cream that conditions but turns to a mousse that builds volume and texture. Great for fine, dry, hair that needs volume but doesn't want the crunch or drying properties of a mousse.

5. Love dry shampoo's. I use Tresemme Dry Shampoo. Gives texture and grip to fine fly away hair. I don't think it does much in cleaning abilities. It personally makes my hair dirtier in a good way. I lack shine and texture first day of shampoo. Using the dry shampoo mimics oil distribution(the irony) which is good for my fine hair. Also, because of the cornstarch it will give a white residue that's to be brushed out. If you have cool/ash blonde hair it gives a time extension on root touch ups.

6. John Frieda's Color Shampoo's/Conditioners dried out my hair.

Redken's Color Shampoo's/Conditioner same situation.

Extreme by Redken worked very well. However your hair can OD on to much protein.

Dove shampoo's/Conditioner's did nothing.

Garnier shampoo's/Conditioner worked very well! Gave me forehead acne-strange because I do my best to wash my face after shower or at the very least keep it off my face.

7. I would like to try It's a 10 brand. Anyone tried?

My favorites include

Redken

and I'm loving Frederick Fekkai's Shea Butter Line, really makes my dry highlighted drizzy hair extremely soft and polished.

Nature Fusion by Pantene

I wanted to dredge this topic up to say that I have not cut my hair as I said I would! And I very rarely straighten it. It's quite soft and shiny now too thanks to the Moroccan Oil (this little bottle has lasted me FOREVER). Hopefully by my 24th birthday I'll have decently long hair.

I've finally got it to a length where I can tame it by sleeping on it - I pull it into two low pigtails and band it twice along the length of my hair. Then in the morning it's all soft and wavy and shiny. I brush it with one of these suckers.

It's a bit crude but it feels great and doesn't tear at my hair. Since my hair doesn't actually turn into bouncy curls if I tie it up when I sleep, there's no curl to destroy by brushing it out so it's just nice and wavy.

I think I am coming to terms with having curly hair, finally.

 

My moroccan oil just ran out I love that shit it is the best

Hooray for your lengths returning! What do you think about those little combs? I saw those on Dragon's Den called 'tangle tamers' (i think) and they looked pretty good. My hair gets really ratty and tangled and when I brush it I literally get a handful of break and fall out every time.

PS does anyone else use velcro rollers? They are the BEST for styling without heat. I just roll my dry hair up and secure with a kirby grip. Then I spritz with some water with a little bit of salt in it and wait for it to dry. Apart from the fact that it takes FOREVER to do, I look like a right wally and it makes my arms ache, it's the best.

Also has anyone tried rag rolling? I did it the other day, got out the shower, towel dried my hair and rolled my hair into spirals around rags (cut up a pair of linen trousers, since it's so cold I feel like I'll never need them again). I used giant thick rags to avoid 80s perm look.

Rag rolling is something I've always,always, wanted to try. Velco rollers or large a large pop can on my crown works really well. I've been using velvet hot rollers for as long as I can remember. I let them heat up and turn them off and then put them in my hair. I usually leave my hair a little damp and then roll allowing them to dry naturally along with a what is left with the heat of the roller. Almost like steam but not extreme in the least. There are days where I just roll my damp hair and let the unheated rollers do their thing for a couple of hours. I have fine hair so in terms of length and time - not that long. Some days wet and bun and I'm done. The next day I have waves.

That brush looks interesting. I use a Boar/Nylon brush. Paid$$$ but I've had it for 10+ years.

I really like Giovanni Smooth as Silk shampoo and conditioner. It's sulfate free (and organic, I don't know if that really makes any sort of difference) if that's what you're interested in.

 

I agree Giovanni is pretty amazing, I've been using the Triple Tea Tree but its a pain to find my ulta is always sold out. I would recommend it as well, and i've tried quite a few shampoos but I always end up coming back to this one.

I love burt's bee new line gud. You can find it at walmart. It makes my hair smell amazing.

For a clean that doesn't irritate my ridiculously sensitive scalp (I wash my hair every day): Garnier Pure Clean. Unfortunately, I really dislike the smell of their products. This doesn't break me out at all or give me hives (hello, Suave and V05).

My L'occitane lavender shampoo cleans just as well as the Garnier but it's been discontinued so I use it quite sparingly.

I love the way most Aveda products smell but I don't think they clean very well.

Organix Repairing Awapuhi Ginger Shampoo & Conditioner

I'm LOVING Aveeno Pure Renewal Shampoo and a Wen dupe as a conditioner. When I towel dry my hair I also put on Shea Moisture Organic Hair Thickening Growth Milk Yucca & Aloe. I love that the shampoo is sulfate and paraben free. It leaves my hair amazing! Super silky, shiny, and straight but it also gives me some volume because it accentuates my layers. I tried using another shampoo to see if it was the Shea moisture milk, but no, it was deff the shampoo. I had never tried aveeno before and was so surprised. I've never really broken out from shampoos...

Anyway, what I love to do is when I have my Wen dupe conditioner on I brush my hair using a wide tooth comb. Has really improved the silky effect. And as a great plus, no more freezy next day hair!

I've gone completely natural (and this is hard, many "natural" products aren't 100% natural), as my processed hair can't handle the sulfate-silicone cycle anymore.

I use SheaMoisture products. It's designed for women with afro curly hair, which is often very, very dry naturally. It is great for my hair that has been made dry through coloring.

Love pureology hydrating shampoo n conditioner. Amazing!!!

I use Mane 'N Tail. Yes, the horse shampoo and conditioner. You have to use both because the shampoo smells kinda like dog shampoo, but the conditioner smells great. I'm also trying to grow out my hair and it's at an awkward length because I dip-dyed my hair and I had to cut off the bleached ends. This stuff has calmed my frizzy hair and it also seems to be making my hair grow faster.

I use the Palmer's Olive Oil shampoo and conditioner. I used to never buy the same shampoo/conditioner twice, but I've bought these products multiple times now. They contain several organic ingredients (for example the olive oil) and work great with my thick, wavy, frizzing hair. It's not always easy to find but I heard it's often available at Walmart.

I have seborrhoeic dermatitis on my scalp, so I have to be extra careful with what I use:

I use the regular Polytar medicated shampoo, and I tend to alternate between Simple and Original Source conditioners. I don't use any 'proper' shampoos, most conditioners have enough surfactants to clean my scalp, I just use them as a shampoos. Before I wash my hair though, I massage around 3 tablespoons of walnut oil into my scalp, leave it on for 5 minutes, wet my hair, and start working in the Polytar and the conditioner in at the same time, rubbing for 2-3 minutes. Then I rub onto my scalp a fair amount of apple cider vinegar [mixed with water 50:50] Then I leave everything on for another 5 minutes and start de-tangling my hair, as this is the only time I brush it. After that, I wash everything off, rinse with apple cider vinegar, and use a deep conditioning mask such as the Argan Oil one, but I alternate that quite often as I don't put it on my scalp, the ingredients don't matter as much. I leave that on for 5 minutes than brush again and wash it off. Then rinse with apple cider vinegar again for extra shine.

For a deep treatment that I tend to leave on for at least and hour:

I mix and heat 1 tbs raw shea butter, 2 tbs coconut oil, 1 tbs walnut oil, 1 tbs almond oil, 3 tbs honey, a few drops of essential tea trea oil and sometimes an egg and half a banana too. I work it into my scalp and roots then coat the rest of my hair. I wrap my hair in cling film to keep the heat in.

This routine keeps my SD in check, and I wash my hair every 4-5 days. I have extremely thick, curly hair, my doctor thinks I have scalp problems because my hair is so thick, air can't get to my scalp well enough, and all the oils get trapped there causing issues. I think it's a weird theory but what do you know.

 

I wanted to dredge this topic up to say that I have not cut my hair as I said I would! And I very rarely straighten it. It's quite soft and shiny now too thanks to the Moroccan Oil (this little bottle has lasted me FOREVER). Hopefully by my 24th birthday I'll have decently long hair.

 

I've finally got it to a length where I can tame it by sleeping on it - I pull it into two low pigtails and band it twice along the length of my hair. Then in the morning it's all soft and wavy and shiny. I brush it with one of these suckers.

 

 

It's a bit crude but it feels great and doesn't tear at my hair. Since my hair doesn't actually turn into bouncy curls if I tie it up when I sleep, there's no curl to destroy by brushing it out so it's just nice and wavy.

 

I think I am coming to terms with having curly hair, finally.

 

My moroccan oil just ran out I love that shit it is the best

Hooray for your lengths returning! What do you think about those little combs? I saw those on Dragon's Den called 'tangle tamers' (i think) and they looked pretty good. My hair gets really ratty and tangled and when I brush it I literally get a handful of break and fall out every time.

PS does anyone else use velcro rollers? They are the BEST for styling without heat. I just roll my dry hair up and secure with a kirby grip. Then I spritz with some water with a little bit of salt in it and wait for it to dry. Apart from the fact that it takes FOREVER to do, I look like a right wally and it makes my arms ache, it's the best.

Also has anyone tried rag rolling? I did it the other day, got out the shower, towel dried my hair and rolled my hair into spirals around rags (cut up a pair of linen trousers, since it's so cold I feel like I'll never need them again). I used giant thick rags to avoid 80s perm look.