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Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

 
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(@andy5)

Posted : 04/14/2022 9:41 am

On 3/31/2022 at 1:37 PM, Thommy280495 said:

IfI remember correctly, Joekool had PFS, and people with pfs can recover with hcg. I don't think it can benefit PAS sufferers and @SaffronAidetried it and it didnt work.

did you end up trying Mif?

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(@thomas76)

Posted : 04/15/2022 9:40 am

On 4/9/2022 at 9:26 AM, MonsterDiesel said:

Have you tried folate for dopamine support? Remember tane upregulates that enzyme that uses up folate (PNMT?). Cant remember the name.

I've tried methylfolate and it's minimally beneficial. I cancelled the doc appointment earlier this week and am trying a combo of kyolic aged garlic, whole herb milk thistle, and bladderwrack. When it comes to milk thistle, or any herb for that matter, I think we need to avoid brands that have percent signs or ratio signs on the label. That means humans have messed around with the natural components in some way. We also need to avoid toxic additives. Earthborn elements milk thistle arrives today from Amazon. First dose is today.

Ive tried whole licorice root before and it spiked my blood pressure. I'd recommend whole licorice root only for women who have chronically low blood pressure, as it also can lower testosterone.

Now there is a licorice alternative known as dgl, which should not spike blood pressure and I believe is also safe for testosterone levels. Dgl is excellent for gut health and possibly adrenal health.

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(@monsterdiesel)

Posted : 04/15/2022 9:58 am

16 minutes ago, Thomas76 said:

I've tried methylfolate and it's minimally beneficial. I cancelled the doc appointment earlier this week and am trying a combo of kyolic aged garlic, whole herb milk thistle, and bladderwrack. When it comes to milk thistle, or any herb for that matter, I think we need to avoid brands that have percent signs or ratio signs on the label. That means humans have messed around with the natural components in some way. We also need to avoid toxic additives. Earthborn elements milk thistle arrives today from Amazon. First dose is today.

Ive tried whole licorice root before and it spiked my blood pressure. I'd recommend whole licorice root only for women who have chronically low blood pressure, as it also can lower testosterone.

Now there is a licorice alternative known as dgl, which should not spike blood pressure and I believe is also safe for testosterone levels. Dgl is excellent for gut health and possibly adrenal health.

I'm trying methylfolate in drops to better control the dose and I'm not finding it helpful either. It's the added methyl donors that's a problem. On the other hand, I do very well with Folic acid but I've read so many bad things about it i'm a little paranoid.

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(@thomas76)

Posted : 04/15/2022 10:20 am

I'd avoid folic acid. If you're trying to avoid the B12 or any other methyl donors you can get methylfolate 400 mcg on Amazon. I've found that any isolates do me more harm than good, and whole herbs and foods are my best bet.

Bladderwrack is probably the best supplement out there for thyroid issues. I've had thyroid pain on and off for quite a while. Will keep the board posted.

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(@monsterdiesel)

Posted : 04/15/2022 10:26 am

5 minutes ago, Thomas76 said:

I'd avoid folic acid. If you're trying to avoid the B12 or any other methyl donors you can get methylfolate 400 mcg on Amazon. I've found that any isolates do me more harm than good, and whole herbs and foods are my best bet.

Bladderwrack is probably the best supplement out there for thyroid issues. I've had thyroid pain on and off for quite a while. Will keep the board posted.

Did you get a full thyroid panel done including thyroglobulin? Everything was was normal for me except low thyroglobulin.

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Posted : 04/15/2022 10:27 am

Actually I lied. There's one food that I do not consume in whole form that I love, and that is lactose free skim milk. My body wants and needs the calcium and water and glucose. It does not want or need the fat or lactose. The lactase enzyme they put in the milk converts the lactose to glucose. Glucose is extremely important for brain function. I believe well over half the global population is lactose intolerant. Lactose free milk solves that problem.

I didn't mess with doctors on the thyroid issue. My biofeedback machine has been indicating hypothyroidism ever since I've owned it. Will see what the machine says once I've been using the bladderwrack pills for a while.

When it comes to my medicomat device, ld say it does an excellent job of pinpointing various problems throughout the body and giving them a name. It does a rotten job of recomending the best supplements to address the issue. Hypothyroidism, cholecystitis, atherosclerosis, and hypertension have been likely the four biggest issues for me according to the machine.

 

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Posted : 04/15/2022 5:13 pm

Popped a milk thistle today when it came in, and within an hour or so it felt like my prostate was exploding. Thyroid pain came back also. Did a biofeedback scan and my liver and gallbladder has never looked better. Prostate scan indicated prostatitis. Taking some bladderwrack for thyroid before bed, and have some swedish flower pollen coming in tomorrow. Will post results as they come.

Someone said earlier that when one part of their body was treated, it improved that body part but other areas got worse, as though their body was like a pinball machine and accutane was the pinball, being pushed around various parts of the body. That's exactly what this seems like.

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(@thomas76)

Posted : 04/16/2022 10:28 am

I'm done playing pinball with accutane. I'm giving it no place to go other than the toilet. Earthborn elementsGinkgo,Mucuna,Milk thistle, kyolic original, source naturals swedish flower pollen,Oregon's wild bladderwrack. Brain, heart, liver, thyroid, prostate. All of those bases are covered with this program. Will report later.

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(@ts-allgaier)

Posted : 04/16/2022 4:33 pm

On 4/14/2022 at 4:41 PM, Andy5 said:

did you end up trying Mif?

I'm waiting for my doc to contact me. I have to make a contract with him. But I found out about licorice root recently and will let him decide if I either take that or the mifepristone. I will definetly take sth soon.

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(@thomas76)

Posted : 04/18/2022 1:24 am

Trying a combo of securil propionibacterium probiotic, allicin, bladderwrack, and tribulus 95% saponins. Will post results later.

A cheaper source of propionibacterium than securil pills would be swiss cheese consumed daily. Accutane wipes out p. acne, and so it likely also wipes out p freudenreichi. I tried securil back in 2018, but didn't include allicin back then. I believe including allicin is crucial.

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Posted : 04/18/2022 6:52 am

On 4/15/2022 at 8:40 PM, Thomas76 said:

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Be careful with this drug. The company [Edited link out] where my mother works was considering a lawsuit against the manufacturer due to a chemical allergy!!!!

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Posted : 04/18/2022 7:49 am

On 4/18/2022 at 7:52 AM, vikikibilous said:

Be careful with this drug. The company [Edited link out] where my mother works was considering a lawsuit against the manufacturer due to a chemical allergy!!!!

I'm not currently using any prescription drugs. Currently doing the following:Securil probiotic,Vitamin c gummies,Amazon basic care probiotic,bladderwrack, burdock and whole ginkgo.

in the past when using burdock root, on the first day of use the penis would go from shrunken turtle mode to total and complete relaxation. Could feel the tension in my pelvic floor completely melt away. Finally everything down there became relaxed. Then on day 2 and beyond, my brain would become completely drained of dopamine and I'd have to stop. Why? What was going on here?

My theory is that accutane is trapped in the skin, just as the naturecrazy guy says in his YouTube video. The skin and the prostate are major sites for androgen receptors and 5 alpha reductase activity. When testosterone cannot be converted to dht in the skin due to accutanes presence, it ends up in the prostate, and boom, chronic bph and prostatitis.

THe thyroid plays a major role in brain health and dopamine regulation, which is where bladderwrack comes into play. Bladderwrack is universally known as the thyroid herb, just as burdock root is universally known as the skin cleansing herb. I have noticed that when I use just the seaweed and no burdock root, the prostate issue gets worse.

Burdock root arrives from Amazon tomorrow, so first dose of all 3 herbs should be tomorrow.

The goal is to cleanse accutane out of the skin with burdock root, and maintain thyroid/brain/dopamine function with the bladderwrack. Ginkgo also is for brain dopamine regulation. The securil probiotic is loaded with propionibacteria, which I believe accutane has wiped out. Will keep the board posted.

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Posted : 04/23/2022 4:35 am

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTd46bAXC/

 

https://www.innate-nutrition.com/blog/accutane

 

 

Two different people come to same conclusion. Retinol and copper deficiency.

 

 

Mitosynergy is the copper to use.

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(@truejustice)

Posted : 04/23/2022 10:52 pm

Why dont doctors know this??

Why does it take someone posting this on a forum to be educated on such things?

My wound healing is dreadful, trying to improve it via Zinc supplement

Not just that but importantly some kinesiology work so the body accepts the supplement correctly and it does what its supposed to do. Most people think supplementing is all you have to do, its only part of it though imo

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(@tryingtohelp2014)

Posted : 04/24/2022 12:13 am

Don't supplement with zinc...it only makes the copper deficiency worse.

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Posted : 04/24/2022 2:11 am

1 hour ago, tryingtohelp2014 said:

Don't supplement with zinc...it only makes the copper deficiency worse.

Whats the added benefits of the Mitosynergy one?

Ive used chelated cooper supplement in the past with little affect unfortunately

Im curious on the one youve suggested, it is expensive so I assume its rather potent

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(@tryingtohelp2014)

Posted : 04/24/2022 6:07 am

copper 1 vs chelated copper 2

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(@truejustice)

Posted : 04/24/2022 7:50 pm

Thanks Tryingtohelp - appreciate the info

 

Supplements aside, any idea why copper cant make it into the cell??

From the food we eat

I dont understand why its not happening naturally

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Posted : 04/24/2022 9:34 pm

1 hour ago, TrueJustice said:

Thanks Tryingtohelp - appreciate the info

 

Supplements aside, any idea why copper cant make it into the cell??

From the food we eat

I dont understand why its not happening naturally

He seems to think it's because the retinol system gets all messed up.

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Posted : 04/24/2022 10:04 pm

Bought some, super expensive due to international shipping etc

Itll be worth it though if it works

endocrinologist didnt want to put me on anything, he said I have enough fuel in the tank not to be on HRT according to my blood tests

Maybe Ill regain my energy with this copper supplementtheres not many things left to try

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(@stefanpetrov15)

Posted : 04/25/2022 4:08 am

Hi everyone,

Did anyone take Accutane and experience hearing loss due to Temporomandibular joint disorder? I was diagnosed with Eustachian Tube disorder and hearing loss, which was most probably caused by Temporomandibular joint disorder. I only took 20 mg Accutane once several months ago and the symptoms started. Do you think it was caused by the medication?

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(@thomas76)

Posted : 04/25/2022 9:15 am

I agree with tryingtohelp on avoiding the zinc supplement. I'm getting my zinc and copper and all other minerals mainly from brown seaweed powder right now. It currently makes up 80% of my daily caloric intake. 1 lb bags for less than 8 usd on Amazon. The taste is horrific so I encapsulate it with size 000 capsules at home by the hour. 12 capsules hourly. That's pretty much the only supplement I'm doing right now.

Accutane is an acid, and alkaline is the opposite of acid. Seaweed is the most alkaline and nutritious food on the planet. Coming from the ocean it's got tons more mineral content than any land based food. Massive dreaming last night for the first time in a while. The key with brown seaweed is to slow down if you have a bad reaction to it when starting out and increase intake when the bad reactions subside.

I think accutane is essentially radioactive retinoic acid with an extremely long half life that remains trapped in cells for years. Russians (Chernobyl) and Japanese (WW2, Fukushima) have proven that brown seaweed is the most effective way to remove radioactive isotopes from the human body. Will keep the board posted.

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Posted : 04/25/2022 9:46 am

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Posted : 04/25/2022 11:32 pm

19 hours ago, stp15 said:

Hi everyone,

Did anyone take Accutane and experience hearing loss due to Temporomandibular joint disorder? I was diagnosed with Eustachian Tube disorder and hearing loss, which was most probably caused by Temporomandibular joint disorder. I only took 20 mg Accutane once several months ago and the symptoms started. Do you think it was caused by the medication?

Hi,

I didn't know there was a scientific name for this, but now that I read about it, it's clear to me I have the same. I also had severe arthritis in my left jar which subsided when I stopped taking tane. But about the hearing loss I think I don't have it, but would say it's also coming from it as well. Did you get any treatment for the disorder?

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(@jorgeantoniocalderon40)

Posted : 04/26/2022 12:13 pm

On 4/8/2022 at 2:55 PM, Thomas76 said:

Ergo log is correct, burdock can increase testosterone. For me it works well for a day, and then after that I'm completely drained of dopamine and have to stop. Burdock would probably be good for a guy who isn't brain damaged. For an accutane brain damaged individual like myself, I need a drug such as celexa. Celexa has been shown to increase dopamine and decrease adrenaline, which is exactly what I'm looking to accomplish. Will report celexa effects next week as they occur.

Thanks,fortunately it took a few days that drug to realize that it was a potential drug layers to destroy the body.

well, I'm just looking for ways to reduce the sebum I've always had on my face so I'll start with the natural and a lot of discipline.

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