3 hours ago, IndigoRushReturns said:

Question - who else (male) has urinary issues? If so, what?

I basically have the symptoms of a large prostate but got checked before and it was apparently normal.

But I have to pee often, have a weak flow and struggle to start. Im really anxious about peeing in public, to the point where I cannot go at a urinal.

Check out my previous posts Indigo, good to see you back here.

You can fix your issue with AR upregulation.

There is always a return to home brother. It is not too late.

You have those prostate issues because AR expression on your prostate has changed and it affects neural network around the whole area which then creates a negative feedback loop with your pelvic floor muscles and creates a harmful loop. Prostate issues affect,including the bladder function and sensation, remember how good it felt to just pee before PAS?

Remember the nice WARMNESS on your genital area, remember how rockhard were the muscles on your pelvic floor muscles contract when aroused? Remember that orgasms and that primal urge inside your penis to ejaculate/ masturbate? All those sensations.

All is from prostate. I confirmed via comparing our symptoms with Prostatitis cases in otherforums.They even have testicle shrinkage, because of PROSTATITIS. They have all those other symptoms we have sexually. INCLUDING libido loss. Because brain stops sending signals if your prostate is inflamed and damaged. It shuts down the whole network of communication.

Check your hormones, if you have low T, start HCG protocol. I can help you with dosages and all. If not, your issue is AR downregulation like %80 of us.

Yeah that's because nerves again. It is all simple actually. Nothing confusing. I know why we have those symptoms and i have found a way to fix it, hopefully.

I bet you, if you were to inject Progesterone 75mg everyday for a month, you will experience a returning of sensation on your genitals. Which i experienced on progesterone which is an AR antagonist but also creates more Allopregnanolone and stimulates GABA production in brain.

Try Mifepristone or Bicalutamide or any other AR antagonist for a full blast recovery, considering the severity of your case Progesterone may fail to fix you fully, just like i experienced.

I don't believe in natural recovery at this point, 7 years of my life has gone. I tried natural routes, no guys, this is pharma grade damage and your body fails to stimulate a recovery itself, you need to stimulate externally with AR antagonists.

Don't be afraid, it is the darkest before dawn.

You have to realize that everything is connected. So, do not isolate your symptoms, it all connected to a root cause. In my case, my all issues comes from Prostate, luckily im a rare case who didn't lose the libido after taking Accutane, although it is lower than before of course. How can i have a high libido with a fully numb genitals and dry orgasms? Right? But i feel the libido in my brain.

You guys have AR downregulation on Prostate+ Brain+ Liver.

I was lucky to take just 3 pills so it only affected my prostate which i think i had a weak paternal gene there.

I am determined to find the way out from this.

1 hour ago, Aaron76 said:

Hey indigo, ive had prostate issues ever since accutane. I believe the issue stems from the liver. Once you get bile flowing adequately again the issue should resolve. Unionjacks post above seems to confirm this. The problem with that post is that a lot of accutane people have no interest in a high fiber diet. Saturated fat is what our bodies want.

The solution I hope is wild yam capsules, thrice daily. Continue eating the ketogenic foods your body is asking for, but add in the wild yam capsules, and the hope is it will be enough to get bile flowing again.

Report back please if this method works. I tried Keto diet with mild improvements for 3 weeks but it only gave back some morning wood which went away. Did you start this diet?

Again, i am skeptic that this will fix you, your prostate issues stem from prostate not from liver. AR expression is affected. I hope it may be different for you though, i never had liver related issues. Only Prostate, btw how do you draw a conclusion that liver can affect prostate to such degree? It is odd.

As for the side effects, those sides are due to High E2 during Bicalutamide usage, do you think im not smart enough to use an AI with Bic.  

Tamoxifen for breast tissue and AI for general E2 peak is a known protocol while using Bicalutamide. No problem, and that side effects are for longer usage. I am thinking 6- 8 weeks of usage tops.

3 hours ago, IndigoRushReturns said:

Question - who else (male) has urinary issues? If so, what?

I basically have the symptoms of a large prostate but got checked before and it was apparently normal.

But I have to pee often, have a weak flow and struggle to start. Im really anxious about peeing in public, to the point where I cannot go at a urinal.

Curious, have you had the vaccine?I experienced this right after it. Thought I may have had an infection or something, but has improved. I tend to goto bathroom alot, but I do consume caffeine alot, so I guess it being a diuretic would make sense.

I have been experimenting withretinyl palmitate(vitamin A) and I have been wondering about getting a PSA test as at times I feel higher in testosterone.

You seem to have dodged two of accutanes sides, hairloss and metabolic syndrome, any tips for Us?

So far the wild yam pills are stimulating loose stools and more bowel movements. I've just increased to 3 capsules twice daily for a total of 6 wild yam pills daily. Appetite is somewhat increased. Prostate swelling has gone down somewhat. Diet is omnivore, non GMO and organic when possible.

When I used retinol rich whole beef liver pills in the past, this was murder on my prostate. The liver is connected to every organ and tissue in the human body. It is essentially the quarterback, or the distributor, of the entire body. When the liver is malfunctioning many other organs and tissues will malfunction. Mainstream doctors are too stupid and ignorant to understand this.

I believe my biofeedback machine has been correct all along. The thing that angers and frustrates me the most with it was it's prioritizing so many foods ahead of the wild yam supplement. I was never going to get anywhere with all those food recommendations until I utilized the wild yam pills to unclog the logjam in my liver.

Guys... I have extreme ibs D after accutane. Is there an actual zoom call or something we can do? I took accutane in 2014 when I was a naive teenager I now have extreme anxiety and need to go to the toilet a lot....but Im not depressed NOW. Lets all put our brains together and help sort each other out!

we can do this I know we can! Ive done a lot of research over the years and I know the information we all know individually when we put together and test it could be amazing for us.

I hope some of you guys take what Im saying seriously and we can actually come up with a plan! Good energy to everyone

9 hours ago, Aaron76 said:

Hey indigo, ive had prostate issues ever since accutane. I believe the issue stems from the liver. Once you get bile flowing adequately again the issue should resolve. Unionjacks post above seems to confirm this. The problem with that post is that a lot of accutane people have no interest in a high fiber diet. Saturated fat is what our bodies want.

The solution I hope is wild yam capsules, thrice daily. Continue eating the ketogenic foods your body is asking for, but add in the wild yam capsules, and the hope is it will be enough to get bile flowing again.

The bile theory still sort of makes sense but this was all covered a very long time ago - before James Sillcock took his own life.

I don™t understand this biofeedback machine you have. How does it work? How can it tell you what supplements will supposedly work, and what won™t? 
 

I recall you™ve mentioned it in the past. Has it suggested other things which have turned out to make no difference?

I™m in a seriously dark frame of mind at the moment, and I™m worried I won™t break out of it now. This is the result of 16 years of suffering and regret. I was at a train station earlier, and quite easily could have jumped in front of one.

7 hours ago, Calcified said:

Curious, have you had the vaccine? I experienced this right after it. Thought I may have had an infection or something, but has improved. I tend to goto bathroom alot, but I do consume caffeine alot, so I guess it being a diuretic would make sense.

 I have been experimenting with retinyl palmitate(vitamin A) and I have been wondering about getting a PSA test as at times I feel higher in testosterone. 

You seem to have dodged two of accutanes sides, hairloss and metabolic syndrome, any tips for Us?

I™ve had my second vaccination recently, but the problem I mentioned has been an issue for years.

I have dodged neither hair loss nor metabolic syndrome¦ my gut is an absolute mess and I™ve become very fat in that area over the last 2-3 years. It™s getting me beyond down and there seems to be no way past it. Combined with being bloated, I™m always thinking about my stomach. And it may look like I have a good head of hair, but the texture is - and has been for a long time - destroyed. Very brittle and the sides and back are thin. I™ve got a lot of grey hairs but disguise this a bit by regularly getting a short back and sides haircut.

I also have to keep shaving my chest and stomach as my hair doesn™t grow normally¦ after a week, I™m very itchy and half of the hair stops growing just after breaking through the skin. I tried leaving it 3 weeks but the itchiness became unbearable.

8 hours ago, SaffronAide said:

Report back please if this method works. I tried Keto diet with mild improvements for 3 weeks but it only gave back some morning wood which went away. Did you start this diet?

Again, i am skeptic that this will fix you, your prostate issues stem from prostate not from liver. AR expression is affected. I hope it may be different for you though, i never had liver related issues. Only Prostate, btw how do you draw a conclusion that liver can affect prostate to such degree? It is odd.

As for the side effects, those sides are due to High E2 during Bicalutamide usage, do you think im not smart enough to use an AI with Bic.  

Tamoxifen for breast tissue and AI for general E2 peak is a known protocol while using Bicalutamide. No problem, and that side effects are for longer usage. I am thinking 6- 8 weeks of usage tops.

Is there any evidence we have prostatitis or prostate issues, or are we just assuming that?

I don™t know about you, but I™ve lost all hope of ever getting better. Doctors never find anything wrong and my family think it™s all in my head.

I sometimes forget how absolutely fucking insane all of this is. I took some pills 16 years ago, and my World has been a living fucking hell ever since. 
 

None of this makes sense or is fair.

With the medicomat device from Amazon, you put a headset on your head and it reads electromagnetic frequencies in your head that are relayed from every area of your body. Every disease has a specific frequency. Every parasite has its own frequency. Every food, every drug, every supplement has its own frequency.

The device detects enlarged prostate and prostatitis, and lists specific bacteria species. It lists drugs such as flomax and avodart, and antibacterial drugs as well. But that's not the answer. You need to go to the liver.

At the liver it lists cholecystitis. It spits out long lists of recommended foods. It recomends udca in the liver drugs section. When you click on the supplements list, wild yam and lecithin are two things that almost always appear at the top of the supplement list. Today, cholecystitis no longer shows up on the screen. That's after some time of using the wild yam pills.

The issue I had for ages is that I was paying too much attention to the food recomendations and not enough attention to the supplement section. Reason being is the machine was prioritizing the foods way ahead of the supplements. Machine definitely is not perfect but it's given me a lot of valuable clues.

Toward the very bottom of the foods list it lists all kinds of alcoholic beverages. It's basically telling you to stay away from alcohol. The one alcoholic beverage that does appear in the food recommendations is red wine.

It's quite possible that for some people, the drug is still in the body and simply needs to be detoxed out, and for others, the drug is long gone but has caused permanent brain damage. I believe wild yam can address both types. It's an autonomic nervous system regulator, and it's classified as a bitter. Mentally I can tell it is definitely superior to ginkgo, garlic, brown seaweed, cordyceps, and any other herb ive used. My brain feels perfect with it. My body however still has a ways to go.

15 hours ago, Aaron76 said:

With the medicomat device from Amazon, you put a headset on your head and it reads electromagnetic frequencies in your head that are relayed from every area of your body. Every disease has a specific frequency. Every parasite has its own frequency. Every food, every drug, every supplement has its own frequency.

The device detects enlarged prostate and prostatitis, and lists specific bacteria species. It lists drugs such as flomax and avodart, and antibacterial drugs as well. But that's not the answer. You need to go to the liver.

At the liver it lists cholecystitis. It spits out long lists of recommended foods. It recomends udca in the liver drugs section. When you click on the supplements list, wild yam and lecithin are two things that almost always appear at the top of the supplement list. Today, cholecystitis no longer shows up on the screen. That's after some time of using the wild yam pills.

The issue I had for ages is that I was paying too much attention to the food recomendations and not enough attention to the supplement section. Reason being is the machine was prioritizing the foods way ahead of the supplements. Machine definitely is not perfect but it's given me a lot of valuable clues.

 

How does the machine work? Without trying to be rude, it sounds too good to be true. Its what - 150 or less from Amazon, and it can diagnose better than any doctor?

The cheapest medicomat model is 500 us dollars. The most advanced medicomat model is over 5k us dollars. For the average Joe who hasn't taken accutane or propecia I think the machine is golden. For accutane victims it may or may not lead to a cure. Medicomat.com provides more info.

I think saffron makes a very valid point about androgen receptors. I've known about androgen receptor dysfunction for a long time. I simply disagree with the use of an anti androgen drug. In the past carnitine and caprylic acid have had a positive androgenic effect but they were inconsistent. Maybe we should be looking at SARMs. See what info you find regarding SARMs.

Regarding wild yam, I think tribulus would actually be a better product. The main benefit of wild yam is it is a bitter. Tribulus is a bitter with a better hormonal effect for men.

I'm trying a combo of tribulus carnitine and fish eggs for a while and will report results later.

The question is, how much of a seafood eater were you before taking accutane? For me the answer is not much. As a kid I was given three options...Bass, bluegill, or bust. I loved shrimp and tuna but never got any. I think that left me wide open for long term damage from accutane because the rxr and rar receptors didn't have much omega 3 there protecting/shielding them from accutane. And so accutane stuck like glue to those receptors ever since.

So how do you get rid of it? Well, Dr Ron's beef brain, life giving store beef brain, and ancestral supplements fish eggs are three whole food omega 3 sources. L carnitine facilitates the shuttling of omega 3 fatty acids across the cell membrane and into the cell. Carnitine also shuttles toxins out of the cell. Tribulus is a bitter herb that helps with bile flow.

Carnitine increases the number of androgen receptors in the body. Sodium butyrate is known to regulate the androgen receptors. Carnitine is aka trimethylbutyrate. So not only does carnitine increase androgen receptors, it also helps to regulate them as well.

Ask yourself a simple question. Was I much of a seafood eater as a kid. If the answer is no, then the above program may work for you. I will keep the board posted with any news good or bad with this program.

Dropped the carnitine, beef brain, and the tribulus, and added msm, coconut oil and tudca pills. Will see what happens.

On 11/15/2021 at 5:22 AM, IndigoRushReturns said:

The bile theory still sort of makes sense but this was all covered a very long time ago - before James Sillcock took his own life.

 

I dont understand this biofeedback machine you have. How does it work? How can it tell you what supplements will supposedly work, and what wont?

I recall youve mentioned it in the past. Has it suggested other things which have turned out to make no difference?

 

Im in a seriously dark frame of mind at the moment, and Im worried I wont break out of it now. This is the result of 16 years of suffering and regret. I was at a train station earlier, and quite easily could have jumped in front of one.

Ive had my second vaccination recently, but the problem I mentioned has been an issue for years.

I have dodged neither hair loss nor metabolic syndrome my gut is an absolute mess and Ive become very fat in that area over the last 2-3 years. Its getting me beyond down and there seems to be no way past it. Combined with being bloated, Im always thinking about my stomach. And it may look like I have a good head of hair, but the texture is - and has been for a long time - destroyed. Very brittle and the sides and back are thin. Ive got a lot of grey hairs but disguise this a bit by regularly getting a short back and sides haircut.

I also have to keep shaving my chest and stomach as my hair doesnt grow normally after a week, Im very itchy and half of the hair stops growing just after breaking through the skin. I tried leaving it 3 weeks but the itchiness became unbearable.

Is there any evidence we have prostatitis or prostate issues, or are we just assuming that?

I dont know about you, but Ive lost all hope of ever getting better. Doctors never find anything wrong and my family think its all in my head.

I sometimes forget how absolutely fucking insane all of this is. I took some pills 16 years ago, and my World has been a living fucking hell ever since.

None of this makes sense or is fair.

Of course we have man! My Uro checked my prostate manually and said that it was enlarged and full of edema!

Why? Because the ejaculation gets stuck inside and causes edema. Because our ARs got some expression changes and prostate muscles couldn't ejaculate properly.

No, you DON'T LOSE HOPE. EVER. DON'T LOSE IT. YOU CAN STILL RECOVER. If god allows, even fully. But you need to take some steps for that. I see that you have lost a lot of touch with our new findings about PFS and PAS and you are not familiar with endocrinology or urology, the role of prostate etc.?

No problem. We will get there. But as i rarely visit these forum i will cut this short. I said it above, multiple times. Cure of PAS is AR antagonists, which UPregulate AR expression. Now search that if you don't know what they mean. I explained it on Propeciahelp forum too.

Now, you are too scared to go full blast Bicalutamide or Mifepristone and all? Do you want a proof?

Progesterone injections 50- 75mg daily.

Or

Progesterone capsules 100mg daily.

Pick one. I injected to my belly fat tissue for 3 months, painless easy as hell, fast. Just your belly fat with a small needle. I was almost %50 recovered around 1 month in. I cried in bed when some sensation was becoming online. It was that moment that made me promise that i need to help others and find the ultimate root cause of this stupid disease.

If you are unwilling to even try this, i can not help you. And you are declaring a BIG chance here. I have no more words left to say if anyone in this forum is unwilling to try a simple beneficial hormone which is used by the healthy males even. (Check out raypeat forum and progesterone supplementation in men.)

The DEGREE OF DAMAGE IS TOO BIG to fix it with supplements and sh*t. You need to wake up and go HARDCORE and Progesterone is not even ''hard''. It is one level up above from supplements. To compare a drug like Accutane is on GOD level. LOL.

But the damage it caused is EASY to fix once you find the RIGHT agent which solves it.

Shake that fear on your shoulders guys!

Listen, nothing on earth can hurt you as Accutane did. Only cancer drugs and stuff can hurt you in that manner. Nothing will leave another permanent damage. I tried all kinds of hormones as others did with no side effects.

GUYS, DON'T BE SCARED JUST BECAUSE ACCUTANE DID THIS TO YOU.

Thid devil drug has its own league. Its on top 1%. We had weak genes to begin with and Accutane found them.

I can help you all with injecting and dosages and stuff. But i need to see people TRYING here, to RECOVER. Otherwise i won't visit this forum again, i can't spend more time, i lost 7 years already.

You are depressed because you have low GABA, low Allopregnanolone. Prog fixes them both as both of them derives from it. I really don't have time this is all known already by everyone, it is scientific facts. Everything i say here is solid science. I wouldn't spread false information, EVER.

@IndigoRushReturnsI need to see your bloodtests btw.

LH

FSH

TT

FT

E2

DHT

IGF-1

Prolactin

SHBG

Cortisol

I wrote to you from Facebook few years ago, asking if your height grew after PAS or that if your shoulders and jaw etc. Continued to develop btw? You didn't respond me and said that you need to be left alone... No problem though. Still, life is strange isn't it? Here we are.

If these hormones aboveare ok, then you don't need HCG or Testosterone which DOWNregulates ARs more. But HCG may be benefical as it is a weak androgen and jsut a stimulator of testis.

If these are within range.

You will try Progesterone and see the miracle yourself. You will see how easy it is to beat this disease actually. That answers were there all along but you were in the dark, unable to see them.

You guys haven't seen IT. I have been there. Let's turn this wheel fast and start to recover together without losing more time. I mean it!

And check out this group, please join: [Removed]

The irony would beVitamin A could be consideredan AR antagonist.

Wild yam is known as natural progesterone, and at first I started to feel a little better from it, likely because it was counteracting excess estrogen in my body. But after a while, it started to produce an anti androgen effect and I stopped it. Any good updates, will share later.

Trying some dandelion root. Will see how it goes.

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idk, I'll go back to this specific bacteria again.

Immunomodulation byBifidobacterium infantis35624 in the Murine Lamina Propria Requires Retinoic Acid-Dependent and Independent Mechanisms

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3660574/

Bifidobacterium longumsubsp.infantis35624 (B. infantis) was originally isolated from resected human healthy gastrointestinal tissue and human clinical studies have demonstrated its efficacy in Irritable Bowel Syndrome patients[15],[16]. In addition, murine studies have demonstrated that this microbe protects against inflammatory disorders across a range of inflammatory conditions including colitis, pathogen infection, arthritis and respiratory inflammation[17][20]. Previously,in vitrostudies with human dendritic cells suggested that promotion of retinoic acid metabolism byB. infantiswas a key regulatory feature of this bacterium[21]. In this report, we demonstrate thatB. infantisfeeding to mice results in increased CD103⁺RALDH⁺dendritic cells within the mucosa, which are responsible for the suppression of T_H1 and T_H17 lymphocytes and amelioration of dextran sulfate sodium (DSS)-induced colitis.

For those that believe there could be some form of vit a toxicity, maybe Accutane could alter natural vitamin a metabolism.

Maybe there could bebacterial involvement.Bacteria harbor many more genes then our own.

This could more likely be a build up of precursors to retinoic acid (retinol/retinal), as retinoic acid and Accutane itself havea very short half life.

So in theory a person could have both a deficiency of retinoic acid and toxicity of preformed vit a simultaneously.

Promotion ofRetinoic Acid metabolism could become a clearance pathway for vitamin a toxicity.

The confusing thing is toxins cause cancer yet retinoic acid is a toxin but also chemotherapy.

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/18263951657656483836?q=b+infantis&client=ms-android-sprint-us-revc&biw=701&bih=280&tbs=vw:l,ss:44&prmd=snixv&sxsrf=AOaemvJu7uh7mGTAjncjlmznn5uylPaoUw:1638380967357&prds=num:1,of:1,eto:4724179610444081030_0,prmr:1,cs:1

That's a link to a b infantis product retailing for only 7.31 usd. If anyone wants to try it let us know how it goes.

Dandelion is too estrogenic and i had to stop. Gallbladder and prostate issues have been some of the main issues for me post accutane. I believe these occur due to estrogen dominance. Damiana is known to be an aromatase inhibitor. Just started damiana capsules at 2grams daily and will see how it goes.

Vitamin A boosts dht, which counteracts estrogen. There's two different possibilities. The drug is trapped in the body, which blocks true vitamin A absorption and utilization, which creates a vitamin A deficiency, which lowers dht. Or the drug is long gone, but has genetically caused a permanent increase in aromatase enzyme, which increases estrogen and lowers T.

Regardless, the hope is that damiana can keep the gallbladder clear and functioning normally, so that if the drug is indeed still there, bile flow can be restored. Will keep the board posted on the damiana program.

Adding tribulus to the damiana tonight. Tribulus to boost lutenizing hormone. Damiana to decrease aromatase activity.

Im adding Testosterone injections to my Vit C supplementation.

Theobiologically, to reverse a sin like this, I would say that drinking raindrops like this from Iblis, need 35 day water fast to restore relative health. 75 days drinking just rice milk/ 55 days eating just rice with one vitamin pill a week with limited vitamin A. In tems of morale, it's about the same as homosexuallity plus or minus a degree of relevance of sin. (All theology is subjective of course) Life expectancy might be about 68 years old for something like this unless you do a fast like this. Living to the age of 68 might require things like openness to Islam and discipline.

New word- Americmediwaria- A healthy underlying suspicion of medicine.