Cbd drops and gummies are readily available on Amazon. I've tried cbd and it doesn't help me nearly as much as the nature's way ginkgo/gotu kola is.

4 hours ago, Calcified said:

Under_tow mentioned once before how vitamin A competes with thyroid hormone. I wonder if this is why?

Would need to investigate the symptoms relations to lowered T4 levels probably. VA(Retinol binding protein) and thyroid(Thyroxine T4) are transported by transthyretin(prealbumin) protein, this is how too much vitamin A causes hypothyroidism.

Other than ginkgo/gotu kola combo, Lecithin is another top supplement recommendation from the biofeedback machine. Lecithin participates in lecithin retinol acetyltransferase, which is an enzyme that's involved with retinoid metabolism.

Problem is, lecithin is a polyunsaturated fat, which means it's no good as a supplement, which means you need to get it from whole foods. Eggs, tuna salad, etc.

12 hours ago, Yedek said:

is there anybody knows a way for get rick simpson oil or cannabis ?

is cbd oil help us ?

I tried CBD oil some years ago and it did nothing. It made me very tired but did not help against longterm side effects.

12 hours ago, Yedek said:

is there anybody knows a way for get rick simpson oil or cannabis ?

 

that depends on the country you are living in and the local laws.

11 hours ago, Aaron76 said:

Cbd drops and gummies are readily available on Amazon. I've tried cbd and it doesn't help me nearly as much as the nature's way ginkgo/gotu kola is.

What exactly is doing ginkgo / gotu kola doing for you? can you please elaborate a bit further on the results, that you are seeing?

Thanks

Roland

Nature's way ginkgo gotu kola is an amazing stress reliever.ive been stuck in fight or flight mode ever since taking accutane. This specific product takes me out of fight or flight mode better than anything else ever has. Ive tried all kinds of adaptogens. None of them can touch this product. Not even close. Ashwaganda, ginseng, rhodiola, cordyceps. None of those guys can touch this nature's way product.

Darker stools, which indicates better bile flow. Gotu kola helps the lymph system, which is crucial for removing toxic substances from the body. Can feel and hear all kinds of movement and activity in my mid section after each dose. Lots of gurgling, like digestive and metabolic activity that needs to happen is happening.

Seems to relax the penis moreso than anything else ever has. Physically I've got a ways to go before I can say I'm recovered, but atleast my brain is back to normal.

Before the onset of toxic pharmaceutical drugs, all diseases began in the gut. After the onset of toxic pharmaceuticals, most diseases now start in the brain. Heal the mind and the rest will follow.

Staple foods include tuna salad, seapak battered shrimp, whole grain low fat sun chips, non GMO butter popcorn, raw organic fruit, Starbucks milk frappe four pack, whole grain non GMO rice crisps, oj not from concentrate with pulp.

Rls is gone also. Take all four capsules in the morning and you'll sleep like a babe. Try taking two before bed and you'll be up all night.

Hi,

can someone try taking an association of B12 (hydroxy + methyl + adenosyl 333g each), copper (1-2mg), iron (50-80mg) and choline (250mg) (+wormwood if possible)for 20 days (maybe not for iron, need tobe careful not to get an excess) to see what happens?

i did all that plus traditional saunas and most of all lot of sport (endurance/running) until i succeeded at running for 10 km at 10km/h and i feel a lot better now, after accutane i never succeeded at running more than 5 minutes, literally. accutane damage bloodflow and the brain can't heal without adressing that with sport. ginkgomaybe helped too.

vitamin D3 (from lichen the only one ifound effective) & stopping caffeine was very useful too.

ps: cbd helped me to do sport (and also quinton plasma), i was in constant inflammation from a vicious circle of stress & accutane that prevented me from doing anything.
i also worked on my emotional blockages caused by accutane inability to feel anything (even if things are still present) plus the rage & hatred all that causes over the years with breating techniques, many other stress relieving techniques & most of all i had a permanent diaphragm blockage that needed to be adressed.i literally cried for months every day after starting this process, along with sport and everything else, my memory started to come back, my emotions, everything, there was so much hatred, pain and suffering that all accumulated over the years was eating me, accutane cause everything to accumulate without being expelled, since you are already dead and can't feel anything anyway.

accutane is the enemy, but it's gone, why continue to try to attack or blame something that isn't there any longer and you can do nothing about, if you blame accutane, you blame the damage it did to your body, and you blame your own body in a sense. just need to let go of the enemy.
if you don't let go of the hatred, or blaming accutane, you will never heal, cause you will direct your energy into the wrong direction.

B12 isolate stimulates dopamine loss and wipes out nitric oxide levels. Copper and iron isolates deplete other valuable minerals. Choline isolate creates fat cravings, and inositol lowers testosterone levels. Wormwood is excellent for short term anti parasitic action, but is actually toxic to the human body, and should never be used as a part of a long term healing protocol, as it would do more harm than good.

Saunas are excellent for removing excess water in people who are overhydrated, which is the exact opposite of accutane people, who are chronically dehydrated. Excessive sweating does more harm than good to chronically dehydrated accutane victims. Hot daily bathes produce sweating without causing dehydration that saunas can cause.

High intensity exercise produces lactic acid, which does more harm than good if our detox pathways are clogged. It also exacerbates joint damage that accutane has caused. Ginkgo and gotu kola combo absolutely can resolve brain and circulation issues without high intensity exercise. I'm living proof of this.

Pycnogenol wipes out dht and causes male breast enlargement, aka gyno. Not sure why any man would want to do that to himself. Cbd is helpful for many people, including cancer victims, but it's never done a lick of good for me.

Ginkgo extract with whole gotu kola works on emotional blockages and enhances spirituality. Many East Indian auyervedic texts mention this aspect of gotu kola. Breathing techniques can be very helpful for some people, but to specifically address chemo induced toxicity, it's pretty much worthless.

I would say daily walking would be excellent to incorporate with the nature's way product, but the problem with that right now is a lot of people, including cops, frown upon people for being outside right now. I would get started with the natures way product right now, and as soon as the corona lockdown ends, hit the sidewalk or the local gym for LOW INTENSITY exercise.

Yea that's why i needed the saunas along with sport.

pycnogenol i didn't took a lot so that's why i didn't put it in my "testing protocol".

i wanted to take only cholinebut there was inositol too in the supplement i bought, maybe it's a good idea to avoid inositol then.

it's true that it's better to take zinc along with copper since the two compete but for a 20days trial and low dosage i don't think it's needed.

the body is a whole, you need to adress every part of it, i said nowhere you heal chemo damage with breating techniques

ps: i removed inositol & pycnogenol from my previous post, thanks.

One other aspect of gotu kola is that it's an excellent diuretic, which is extremely helpful for removing any excess water that a body may have.

i already tried ginkgo & gotu kola and it did nothing to me, only sport did. or citrullin and nicotinic acid, but with regressive curveand only lasting couple hours. i personaly don't think you can heal from accutane without doing sport.

i agree that joint pain is an issue, but for me it resolved with time, diet change etc. for many years i wasn't able to do any sport its true

It's ok to be angry at accutane, and at mainstream modern medicine in general. Denying true feelings is never helpful. For you accutane is gone, but for many of us it's still trapped inside the clogged lymph system.

The lymphatic system is a greatly underestimated detox system that can become clogged up by toxic emotions and toxic chemicals such as accutane. Stimulating lymphatic flow is key to healing. For you, exercise was the answer. For others, it simply isn't, especially now with a global mandated lockdown. I believe low intensity, low impact daily exercise after the lockdown ends would be helpful for anyone.

My biofeedback machine has always recommended the ginkgo gotu kola combo as the #1 top supplement. The key was finding an American product that duplicates the European brands included in my machines product library that I didn't have access to. nature's way ginkgo is the American equivolant.

Gotu kola is proven to stimulate lymphatic flow, and it's excellent for removing toxic trapped chemicals and emotions. Full spectrum ginkgo I'm finding is not nearly as effective as ginkgo standardized extract. And if gotu kola is taken without ginkgo extract, it can do more harm than good. Together is key for these two herbs.

i know about dr morse teachings, it's what helped me the most. but stuck negative emotions only leads to blockage, stress and even worse if you can't even feel it like it happened to me, i had so many stuck negative emotions, and stuck diaphragm from all that that everything wasn't working right.

That's where gotu kola and ginkgo combo comes in. It helps remove trapped toxic emotions. I agree with Dr Morse on practically everything except the fruitarian diet. I believe humans are natural Omnivores, and that eating foods from all four food groups is necessary for overall health.

yea i also believe fruitarian diet isn't optimal, or at least, only temporary for some enhanced detox effects but not as a diet.

gotu kola & ginkgo wasn't strong enough for me sadly, sport was really the only thing i didn't tried, i already tried musculation but without any difference, running is really good for circulation, and speeding up everything happening inside the body. i had trouble sweating for a long time too, i think it's no coincidence that i start feeling better now that i can.

thing is, it's the whole system, domesticationand modern civilization itself that is the issue, modern human is the issue. if people didn't wanted accutane there will be no accutane, if people cared there would be no accutane, if they could help themselves without being assisted for everything there would be no accutane, people are just good at doing one single job their entire life, they are good for nothing more and don't even have time to care for anything more. the only solution is boycott, there is nothing to save in this system, just let it die.

i hate people as much as those who sells accutane, how many videos and post there is out there praising accutane? more than those who sells it. i gaved up on hatred, revenge & everything because i would have ended uphatingeveryone.

you can't change modern medicine, it's based on drugs that damage one thing to reduce the symptom of an other thing.

I would say that domestication and civilization are good things that improve health and society. If corrupt government organizations like the fda didn't protect corrupt drug companies, there would be no more accutane. Plenty of people care, but overturning a corrupt organization like the fda isn't easy. People can absolutely help themselves with natural health choices, but too many are too stupid to do that.

I'd say theres plenty of people in the world who are good at all kinds of things. I'd also say that if they work 40 hrs a week or less, they have plenty of time to care about all kinds of things. If someones working 80 hours a week, obviously then there's no time to care about anything other than work. I agree with boycotting drugs and drug companies. The key is mass education to make that happen.

I definitely don't hate innocent people who have nothing to do with accutane. l only hate pharmaceutical criminals. Modern medicine can absolutely be changed through mass education. My guess is you're bored from the lockdown. Try some online games from Google play store, or youtube videos to pass the time.

if there wasn't any demand for accutane, there will be no accutane, simple as that.

i think you got triggered but i wasn't trying to be mean, that's just how things works in a civilization, people doesn't care about their own people, only themselves, and have enough issue for being a debt slave than to think about doing a revolution to fix issues of corrupt government everytime there is injustice that cannot be changed in a legal way.

Ill look into the gutukola at some point prob though for circulation more than anything

currently doing Vit C & D, also doing 5 drops of Zinc combined with Earth in tincture - great for getting rid of stomach pains Ive been experiencing

Things written down Id like to go over with kinesiologist are:

1. genome damage

2. occlusivevascular disease

Question- is this why I have chronic varicose veins post tane - would like to know!!?

These I wrote down about 2 years ago, both were discussed on theboard at some point but not followed up on I dont believe

Also, I agree on the exercise/sport to feel better, providing you have worked on things and have the energy. Done a ton of lymphatic drainage and biofilm cleaning so gut is better and energy much better.

Yes, diaphragm work has also been addressed but must practice to get breathing correct. Diaphragm can easily push up and cause breathing issues - kinesiologist has pushed it back down numerous times during sessions

Also, quiet simple to clear negativeemotions not even accutane related necessarily during sessions, all very important to do in order to properly absorb the supplements etc!!

Always need to work on with kinesiologist:

Physical

Chemical

Emotional

Tj I've never heard of earth supplement but it sounds very interesting. The vitamin c scares me in that it is an acid, ie ascorbic acid, and we're already too acidic. The d scares me in that it competes with a, e, and k. The zinc scares me in that it's known to wipe out copper and iron levels.

Accutane has either caused permanent genetic changes that result in vascular disease, or it's still trapped inside and removing it will remove the disease. Regardless, Ginkgo extract and whole gotu kola are successful for arterial and lymphatic diseases.

I tried gotu kola standalone and it destroyed my liver and gallbladder function. Pale stools, no bile flow, and had to stop. Ginkgo extract is required with gotu kola in order for it to work right. You will end up with more liver issues if you try gotu kola without including the ginkgo extract. Several European companies produce a whole gotu kola/ginkgo extract combo.

Also, avoiding GMO food is critical for us. Sun chips produces several flavors, including original flavor. All flavors are non GMO except for the original, which is GMO. Guess which one my body reacts badly to. You guessed it, the original flavor.

Hii guys...sry for this weird intervention...I was trying to enter in this sub but everyone I got an error and now I sorted out that it was coz I am not registered on this site ..lol...

Hii...I am an Indian guy...17 yo...I took accutane an year ago. 20mg..and after 2 month it made my hair fell out...so I stopped taking it...but now the hairfall hasn't stopped..it's like 10-15 hairs per day...and my hair got thin and a bit wirey...idk what to do...

There's no receding hairline or what so ever...I still have a straight juveline hairline.. but the hair at the middle of my hairline looks thin... Idk..what made my hair like this....please any help would be really helpful...none of my family member is bald ..all have great hairs

I think the cause is excess vit A that's being stored in our liver..as our body also produces accutane naturally but in very low amount..so maybe coz of excess of Vit A ...it caused these symptoms...just like But A toxicity..I also have dry/flaky skin....and a bit bad eye...

Has anybody tried detox or but A low diet?...

Any advice would be really helpful guys...I'll send you my pics ...before and after accutane:(

Any advice would be really helpful!!! 

Hey Rohit, it's not a weird intervention. You're quite normal. It's down to one of two things. Accutane has either caused permanent genetic changes that result in poor circulation, including to the scalp, or it's still trapped inside, and removing it will resolve the circulation issue. Avoiding foods high in preformed retinol, such as beef liver and cod liver oil, would be wise. Avoiding foods high in beta Carotene, such as carrot juice or sweet potatoes, would not be wise.

Regardless of which it is, the herbal combo of ginkgo extract combined with whole gotu kola is excellent for restoring circulation and lymphatic flow, which is key for healing from accutane. Several European companies produce this herbal combo. Use this herbal combo product daily and you should start noticing positive changes.

36 minutes ago, Aaron76 said:

Hey Rohit, it's not a weird intervention. You're quite normal. It's down to one of two things. Accutane has either caused permanent genetic changes that result in poor circulation, including to the scalp, or it's still trapped inside, and removing it will resolve the circulation issue. Avoiding foods high in preformed retinol, such as beef liver and cod liver oil, would be wise. Avoiding foods high in beta Carotene, such as carrot juice or sweet potatoes, would not be wise.

Regardless of which it is, the herbal combo of ginkgo extract combined with whole gotu kola is excellent for restoring circulation and lymphatic flow, which is key for healing from accutane. Several European companies produce this herbal combo. Use this herbal combo product daily and you should start noticing positive changes.

Hey.. thanks for your advice..

I am a pure vegetarian from birth (Hindu).I never ate any kind of non veg....cows are our goddess....

I'll look into the herbal medicine that you've mentioned....do you got any improvement by using it?

My hair are thin especially at front and it's like the whole texture of my hair changed...now I see wispy hair on my legs too...but they aren't so much....I think body is healing by itself....

I also loose eyebrow hairs easily too... Kinda fled up for a 17 year old....

Just found out that it's Ayurveda...yea you know what Ayurveda is best.....I was a fool that I fell into the trap of western meds...Ayurveda is sacred knowledge given by Hinduism... I'll never try allopathy meds again...and Ayurveda meds are easily available in my area...like in every corner ...I'll ask bout it from my Ayurvedic

doc

I'm not healed but it feels like my body is going in the right direction with this combo. I would do 4 capsules daily in the morning.

We were all fools for falling for big pharma poison. TCM is another good medicinal practice. Im adding glutamine to the mix when it arrives Sunday. I believe it's cell division enhancement properties are essential for recovery. Ginkgo ensures that glutamine converts to gaba instead of glutamate via gad65 enhancement.

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On 4/9/2020 at 9:05 AM, Rohit@123 said:

I think the cause is excess vit A that's being stored in our liver..as our body also produces accutane naturally but in very low amount..so maybe coz of excess of Vit A ...it caused these symptoms...just like But A toxicity..I also have dry/flaky skin....and a bit bad eye...

 

Has anybody tried detox or but A low diet?...

Any advice would be really helpful!!!

 

 

Hi Rohit@123. I did BOTH Accutane and a foolish round of Propecia in a desperate attempt to fix Accutane problems.I have been doing low VA for a year now (although I did not perfect the diet until about 3 months ago when I realized there were still some high VA foods I was occasionally eating.

My dryness, headaches (especially any kind of sharp/throbbing pain in the head) have all been virtually gone for a long time. I no longer have stomach pains either. Depression is better but I am still somewhat lethargic (that might also have more to do with my odd personal schedule), and my brainfog is mostly gone. My motivational drive has been higher as well as general testosterone, and at times libido (it was higher than it had been in 4 years last spring/summer, but decreased over the fall). I would HIGHLY recommend this as well as periodically taking Apple Pectin & hitting the gym.

5 hours ago, cnb30 said:

Hi Rohit@123. I did BOTH Accutane and a foolish round of Propecia in a desperate attempt to fix Accutane problems.I have been doing low VA for a year now (although I did not perfect the diet until about 3 months ago when I realized there were still some high VA foods I was occasionally eating.

My dryness, headaches (especially any kind of sharp/throbbing pain in the head) have all been virtually gone for a long time. I no longer have stomach pains either. Depression is better but I am still somewhat lethargic (that might also have more to do with my odd personal schedule), and my brainfog is mostly gone. My motivational drive has been higher as well as general testosterone, and at times libido (it was higher than it had been in 4 years last spring/summer, but decreased over the fall). I would HIGHLY recommend this as well as periodically taking Apple Pectin & hitting the gym.

When you say that your dryness and headache were gone a long time ago. Does this mean they were gone already before you started the zero vitamin a diet? Or is it a result of the diet?

Thanks

Roland