I'm working on it. Vitamin A is necessary for fat absorption. Accutane displaces vitamin A. Whole beef liver restores Vitamin A. Beef adrenal restores the lymph system to help flush out accutane and clear pathways for retinol absorption. Sticking with it and keeping hope.
33 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:Have you sort the help of a doctor?
One would have to think its fairlyeasy to diagnose with how they can test these days, am I right?
dont want to sound ignorant but why even bring up Accutane with a Doctor, just get them to check prostate and go from there
I did go a doctor already. I had a semen culture. They finded bacteria in my semen and doctor sayed this is prostate inflammation. Search on google "chronic prostatitis" .unfortunately it is not easy to treat
Prostatitis could be caused by malfunctioning kidneys. They are both blood filters. Kidney malfunction would put extra stress on the prostate. I've realized I need to be much more open minded about different beef organs. Stopped the liver and thymus and switching to kidneys, which arrive on Friday, and pancreas, which I add to the mix tonight.
I believe the answer lies in beef organs, it's just a matter of knowing exactly which ones are needed.
Two studies from ~50years ago showing that the vitamin A toxicity issues were already present, this is why we get acne in the first place.
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Vitamin A and carotene levels of a selected population in metropolitan Washington, D. C.
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1093/ajcn/26.9.992
286 micrograms Vit A per gram of liver is diagnostically Vitamin A toxic.
1 mmol Vit A / gram of liver = 286ug Vit A / g of liver
24.2% (80 / 329 subjects) were Vitamin A toxic (300ug/g in liver, regardless of race, sex, or cause of death).
1 out of 4 basically, 50yrs ago
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https://sci-hub.tw/10.1093/ajcn/23.8.1037
"Calculations based on time minimal and median values for hepatic vitamin A concentrations from Table 1 indicate that no drop in plasma values would be anticipated for 22-220 days in the complete absence of a dietary source of vitamin A-active foods."
No drop in blood Vitamin A with complete abstention for possibly up to 7.5 months! This shows just how large the Vitamin A stores are in the liver, that they can easily maintain this for months and months. Studies also showing the the adrenals are another place with heavy storage, especially carotenes, CFS via vitamin A.
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So we were already carotene and vitamin A toxic with acne, then took accutane(high dose active vitamin A, retinoic acid), which locked that toxic vitamin A in liver and other storage tissue, due to depleting minerals(Molybdenum), disabling B1/B2 metabolism, and disabling the ADH and ALDH systems. Since we are now seeing people approach 1.5yrs on low VA, starting to see the blood serum reports showing that vitamin A does not start dropping off in serum until after 1yr on low VA(this is for people that were not on accutane), so I suspect it will probably be 1-2yrs for those on accutane for relief of symptoms. If you dont' want acne in the first place, low VA should be the first approach.
Example from yesterday, serum levels, non-accutane:
"my VA level every 4 months: 68, 65, 62, and finally 1 year and 4 months in: 44.6"
Getting down to 20 or below should be the goal, for the body to start full repair.
1 hour ago, under_tow said:So we were already carotene and vitamin A toxic with acne, then took accutane(high dose active vitamin A, retinoic acid), which locked that toxic vitamin A in liver and other storage tissue, due to depleting minerals(Molybdenum), disabling B1/B2 metabolism, and disabling the ADH and ALDH systems.
According to this study, too much Molybdenum can lower testosterone. Subjectively, have you noticed anything to this effect?
I'm low in all of the fat soluble vitamins, including retinol, and react badly to all of them except k. The reason I'm low in all of them is because of a poorly functioning pancreas post accutane. A healthy pancreas is needed for fat and fat soluble vitamin absorption. An accutane damaged pancreas produces inadequate lipase. This is where raw beef pancreas comes in. Can do things that no herbal pancreas formula can do. Same thing applies for raw beef kidney vs herbal kidney formulas.
A person could take a full course of accutane, 80 mg daily, starting January 1 of this year, and be fully recovered from it by christmas, without any nonsensical low carotenoid diet. There is no such thing as carotenoid toxicity from whole foods. Retinol toxicity is a very real thing. Carotenoids, no. The only way to become carotenoid toxic would be from a beta carotene supplement.
Nobody needs to sit around and wait years of their life for accutane or vitamin A to magically drain from the body. Recovery from this simply doesn't work that way. The key is to regenerate key organs of digestion and detoxification.
People who don't want acne should cut back on added sugar and consume yogurt or kefir on a regular basis to prevent gut bacterial imbalance, which is the root cause of acne.
22 minutes ago, Aaron76 said:There is no such thing as carotenoid toxicity from whole foods. Retinol toxicity is a very real thing. Carotenoids, no.
Carotenoids are plant retinol, yes they do contribute to vitamin A toxicity. Your body cleaves them into retinol, and into the liver they go
23 minutes ago, Aaron76 said:People who don't want acne should cut back on added sugar and consume yogurt or kefir on a regular basis to prevent gut bacterial imbalance, which is the root cause of acne.
Complete udder non-sense, yea all the people on this forum cured their acne from dropping sugar and eating yogurt. /s
1 hour ago, MonsterDiesel said:According to this study, too much Molybdenum can lower testosterone. Subjectively, have you noticed anything to this effect?
I think molybdenum from whole grains and legumes would be safe amounts.
1 hour ago, Calcified said:Any other retinol results apart from one poster?
There have been few results on RP site and Grant's, this experiment is just hitting the 1.5yr mark, all showing the very slow release of VA from the overloaded body.
All of the ppl on this forum cleared their acne through accutane, moron. What is acne? It is a BACTERIA, cutibacterium acnes to be specific. When the gut is imbalanced with low beneficial bacteria, it grows out of control, resulting in skin acne. Wow you truly are clueless ut.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139236/
Page search "toxicity" in the above link and you will see that carotenoids causing retinol toxicity is impossible.
Get a clue undertow. Stop trying to sound like an expert on something you have absolutely no clue about.
I believe monster when he talks about reacting badly to carotenoid rich foods. But it has nothing to do with vitamin A. The bacteria currently present in monsters gut are causing a reaction to the carotenoid rich foods.
1 hour ago, Aaron76 said:All of the ppl on this forum cleared their acne through accutane, moron. What is acne? It is a BACTERIA, cutibacterium acnes to be specific. When the gut is imbalanced with low beneficial bacteria, it grows out of control, resulting in skin acne. Wow you truly are clueless ut.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139236/
Page search "toxicity" in the above link and you will see that carotenoids causing retinol toxicity is impossible.
Get a clue undertow. Stop trying to sound like an expert on something you have absolutely no clue about.
I believe monster when he talks about reacting badly to carotenoid rich foods. But it has nothing to do with vitamin A. The bacteria currently present in monsters gut are causing a reaction to the carotenoid rich foods.
Thanks moron, took accutane twice and did not clear my acne, done all the idiot advice you have suggested over the years. Go read about how carotenoids are removed from our bodies. So no sugar and yogurt is the cure, but taking accutane is the cure... dumb.
Acne is excess sebum, the bacteria need a food source, no excess sebum no acne, the bacteria are always there. Retinoic acid does something to the sebum glands, accutane destroys them, excess retinoic acid disrupts them, carotenoids are part of this.
Shilling bovine supplements, real expert advice there.
I haven't been tossing out ideas here for years. Cutting sugar and doing daily yogurt or kefir is the healthy, harmless intelligent acne cure. Accutane is the unhealthy, damaging stupid acne cure. Sebum production naturally increases during puberty. If a teenager has a healthy gut bacterial balance during this natural sebum increase, no acne. If the teen has unhealthy gut bacterial balance during this natural sebum increase, acne.
No shit accutane does something to the sebaceous glands. That something is decreased fat availability to the sebaceous glands due to a damaged pancreas. Heal the pancreas and fat absorption increases, which brings more available fat to the sebaceous glands, which restores natural sebum flow and hormonal balance.
But it's more than that. The kidneys are also damaged, which makes it impossible for the body to detoxify. Heal the pancreas and heal the kidneys and heal accutane syndrome. NEXT.
Too much or too little vitamin A lowers T. The key is to find the sweet spot. Consuming whole foods rich in beta carotene enables this without any risk of vitamin A toxicity. Carrot juice is the easiest way to get your vitamin A. Fortified whole organic milk is a decent source of vitamin A. Whole beef liver and cod liver oil can easily result in vitamin A toxicity.
Testosterone isn't going to budge much until the kidneys and pancreas are functioning normally. A toxic body lowers T. Fat malabsorption lowers T. These two beef organs address these issues. If it were me I'd put the synthetic retinol isolate away and see how I do with the kidneys and pancreas over the coming week.
And it might please someone here to know that beef kidneys are loaded with b1, B2, b12, and molybdenum.
This is what I don't get, vitamin A increases testosterone when people supplement when deficient, yet if someone deficient takes accutane instead of vitamin A, I can't help wondering how this would vary. Maybe no increase or decrease in testosterone, like in studies?
Lets say I'm deficient which it's looking possible, what's worse, Accutane or Vitamin A? Same results or totally different?
Trust me I want to put down the retinyl palmitate as I honestly am concerned about liver issues, toxicity etc.