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I eat beef liver 1 or 2 times a week because it has too much vitamin A. It's a superfood packed withmultivitamins, howevertaking vitamin A in excess (from foods!) is harmful (the same for B-6, which I mentioned in my previous posts. BTW after all this time I am 100% cured of that odd sensation in my left index finger, perhaps caused by this excessive dose I took).
https://www.enviromedica.com/learn/beef-liver-natures-perfect-food/
A better idea for vitamin A absorption(which also has D -not too much) is taking COD LIVER OIL. This is also mentioned as a way to get rid of acne, I wish I knew all those things before taking Accutane. Or for a healthy carb: SWEET POTATOES: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/sweet-potato-benefits
Regardingpeople that complain about joint pain problems, perhaps it would be a good idea to try a good COLLAGEN powder.
I read conflicting opinions and serious questioning about the reliability of COLLAGEN (especially if we are doing everything that don't cause premature aging, such as exposing ourselves too much to the Sun (we only need a few minutes, and taking D-3 pills is better because it's too hard to get enough D without spending too much time, besides depending where we live there's not enough UV-B (when the Sun is 50 degrees or higher above the horizon)for over 6 months, preventing production in our bodies from natural exposure), smoking, pollution, a good diet/workout routine, etc.), but one thing I noticed is that multiple people reported an improvement once they took, for this reason. They claimed their pain was over.
As you can see this is another stuff thatcontinues years after stopping the treatment: https://www.drugs.com/answers/anyone-long-term-joint-pain-due-accutane-common-887542.html
Perene, your idea of a Keto diet is a good one. Keto can definitely be helpful. I would avoid the b complex, since b complex is likely to create calorie cravings. Id recommend one meal per day and nothing else. Google search the warrior diet and or omad diet.
If you're eating significant amounts of beef liver on a regular basis with no negative reaction, you're likely free of accutane. Accutane syndrome produces negative reactions to retinol foods or supplements, because the body is overloaded with retinoic acid, just as the guy in the video states.
Cod liver oil is a bad idea for most people in that it's an isolated polyunsaturated fat. polyunsaturated fat creates oxidative stress and it wipes out testosterone levels. The only oils that would be healthy on a regular basis would be coconut oil, butter oil, olive oil, and palm oil. These are rich in either saturated fat or monounsaturated fat, which are both pro testosterone. Polyunsaturated fat supplements are one of the worst things anyone could do for their health.
For most people I'd recommend collagen for joint issues, but accutane ppl are different. We need the glucuronic acid specifically in order to pull accutane out, and so glucosamine and chondroitin is a must for accutane people.
Sweet potatoes are definitely a healthy food, but how much of the beta carotene is converted to retinol in our damaged bodies? Nobody knows. With beef liver, it's already in retinol form. You could try doing glucusamine chondroitin with sweet potatoes or carrot juice, and if you don't experience dopamine loss, great, it's working. But if you experience dopamine loss with beta carotene based vitamin A intake, then you'd need to do the beef liver.
Nope. The only thing Cal d glucurate will do for accutane ppl is further wipe out their hormone levels. Our hormones are already low. Cal d glucurate makes the problem worse.
If you don't have enough glucuronic acid to attach to accutane you can't remove it. Your joints are a mess because glucuronic acid is a major joint component. Supplement with glucosamine and chondroitin and you supply the glucuronic acid needed to remove accutane and restore your joints. But it needs to be with whole beef liver pills, carrot juice or sweet potatoes in order to replenish systemic retinol and prevent dopamine loss.
Youcould try doing glucosamine chondroitin with sweet potatoes or carrot juice, and if you don't experiencedopamine loss, great, it's working. But if you experience dopamine loss with beta carotene basedvitamin A intake, then you'd need to do the beef liver. Vitamin A prevents amino sugar induced dopamine loss.
Accutane causes fatty liver because the liver lacks true vitamin A, and it's damaged from trying to remove accutane all these years. When you give your body the extra glucuronic acid it needs, boom, accutane attaches to it and is removed, if your eating beef liver, carrot juice or sweet potatoes at the same time.
@Aaron76I get what your saying, but if hepatic retinoic acid levels are decreased in fatty liver samples compared to controls, is it really still in us? Does anyone here have a normal liver ct scan showing no evidence of NAFLD??? I get initially we would have had a build up of accutane in us but 5,10,20 years later, are you sure?
I'm basing my theory on nature crazy guys theory. I just believe he was wrong about accutane removal methods.
A major thing that needs to be understood is there are different forms of retinoic acid. There's 9 cis retinoic acid. There's 13 cis retinoic acid. And there's also trans retinoic acid. Same applies for carotenoids. There's cis beta carotene and there's trans beta carotene. Synthetic beta carotene pills are trans beta carotene. Natural beta carotene pills I believe are cis beta carotene, with other naturally occurring anti Androgenic carotenoids.
The reason it could still be in us 20+ years later is...if we never have enough glucuronic acid in the body to remove it, how does it ever get removed? It cant. This would explain the constant joint issues, since glucuronic acid is a major joint component.
If accutane attaches to glucuronic acid and is then broken off and recirculated by beta glucuronidase, then kefir would be a necessary addition to the mango smoothie and glucosamine chondroitin pills, since probiotics prevent beta glucuronidase from occuring.
If I supplement with glucusamine chondroitin by itself, I experience a major loss of dopamine and thus, restless legs. Why? Because the GC supplement is pulling accutane out, but without beef liver, carrot juice, sweet potatoes, etc, there's no vitamin A to step in and fill the rxr or rar receptor spots that accutane was occupying.
I've been doing liver with glucosamine and chondroitin past 2 days and no dopamine loss/rLs issue. I can tell however that retinoic acid is starting to build up in me, and so I'm switching tonight to a carotenoid rich mango smoothie and glucosamine chondroitin Combo, and leaving out the beef liver.
It's been mentioned on these posts before about 13 cis converting to altrans in tissues. Just saying it's totally possible that accutane 13 cis has been eliminated, I've also been told by a dermatologist it has all gone.
Good to hear different theories, trials and errors. Longterm sides effects, yes, we have less acne forever now, but might not still be in us. Let us know how you go.
10 hours ago, Aaron76 said:Nope. The only thing Cal d glucurate will do for accutane ppl is further wipe out their hormone levels. Our hormones are already low. Cal d glucurate makes the problem worse.
If you don't have enough glucuronic acid to attach to accutane you can't remove it. Your joints are a mess because glucuronic acid is a major joint component. Supplement with glucosamine and chondroitin and you supply the glucuronic acid needed to remove accutane and restore your joints. But it needs to be with whole beef liver pills, carrot juice or sweet potatoes in order to replenish systemic retinol and prevent dopamine loss.
Can you please explain the second part in more detail
Whats the Dopamine vs Vit A story - if you could explain whats going on there?
A major part of chondroitin is glucuronic acid. Glucose is the precursor to glucuronic acid, so glucosamine acts as a precursor to glucuronic acid due to its glucose component.
Vitamin A regulates dopamine storage, release, and metabolism. If your vitamin A levels are off, dopamine will likely be off as well.
This latest endeavor of mine is simply based off YouTube naturecrazy guys theory. It may be wrong, I was just throwing out a theory of where he might have gone wrong.
One other thing to consider is the phenomenon known as super tasters. These people have a super sensitive sense of taste, particularly to bitter tasting foods, and this can create some mineral deficiencies, particularly msm potassium and magnesium. I'm pretty sure I'm a super taster. Can't stand crucifer veggies, can't stand coffee in water. Needs to at least be with milk. Can't stand leafy greens. Lettuce is ok though. Can't stand beer. Love salt. These are all Hallmark signs of a super taster.
I think accutane works by making it's victims too acidic, which causes long term dehydration. The body never has enough mineral reserves to remove it. It creates fat cravings because the body wants the fat as a buffer against the retinoic acid.
I would say that most, if not all of us are too acidic and not alkaline enough. Mineral supplementation can correct this.
Supplements
Pre-work
Beet it
Doctors best msm
Post work
Kal potassium chloride
Doublewood magnesium chloride
Staples
Albacore
Simply smoothies
Will see how it goes.
What pissed me off about that video is that there even is a theory that Accutane is trapped inside
I mean, where did those guys gather their info from? If its true why arentdoctors told about it....like30 to 40 years ago??
mind numbing ignorance of the medical community, doctors dont even know it can still be trapped and yet theyre fine putting people on it....I wanna punch them in the face!!
No Im not convinced of that
took in new beef liversupplement - high quality one from New Zealand that has large amount of Vit A in it - body tested fine with it - 2 pills per day actually
Next issue kinesiologist found was with Zinc believe it or not, we cleared a few emotions around it but still didnt do the trick. He talked about zinc interfering with my gut health and not being absorbed correctly ( reflux issues )This fits in perfectly with what weve known for some time now - wound healing being super slow post tane yeah....
Anyway, thats what I now have to work on. Just be careful with thesynthetic form of Vit A, as he said, I probably tested ok withmy new supplement as itsa good natural source in beef liver,synthetic formon the other hand my body in the past has rejected!!
I've always had a major issue with isolated zinc due to it being a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor. Same thing with selenium. I think we get plenty of zinc and selenium from the food we eat. I consider those two minerals to be sissifying minerals. If I ever came across a guy who wanted to convert to being a woman, I'd reccomend he supplement with zinc and selenium.
The only mineral isolates that have ever done me any good are boron, manganese, iron, magnesium.
Feminizing fats would be anything polyunsaturated. A feminizing amino acid would be lysine. Some feminizing vitamins would include B2, b5, b6, biotin, and vitamin e. This is why I hate multivitamins.
4 hours ago, TrueJustice said:No Im not convinced of that
took in new beef liversupplement - high quality one from New Zealand that has large amount of Vit A in it - body tested fine with it - 2 pills per day actually
Next issue kinesiologist found was with Zinc believe it or not, we cleared a few emotions around it but still didnt do the trick. He talked about zinc interfering with my gut health and not being absorbed correctly ( reflux issues )This fits in perfectly with what weve known for some time now - wound healing being super slow post tane yeah....
Anyway, thats what I now have to work on. Just be careful with thesynthetic form of Vit A, as he said, I probably tested ok withmy new supplement as itsa good natural source in beef liver,synthetic formon the other hand my body in the past has rejected!!
Personal questions that you don't have to answer but do you experience any blood when brushing teeth? This never happened to me until I starting taking vitamin A.
4 hours ago, Aaron76 said:I've always had a major issue with isolated zinc due to it being a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor. Same thing with selenium. I think we get plenty of zinc and selenium from the food we eat. I consider those two minerals to be sissifying minerals. If I ever came across a guy who wanted to convert to being a woman, I'd reccomend he supplement with zinc and selenium.
The only mineral isolates that have ever done me any good are boron, manganese, iron, magnesium, and now so far Msm.
Feminizing fats would be anything polyunsaturated. A feminizing amino acid would be lysine. Some feminizing vitamins would include B2, b5, b6, biotin, and vitamin e. This is why I hate multivitamins.
What Ive learnt is that it must be activated
You could buy every supplement ever made and take it, must be activated in many cases though for it to work for you.Im not a kinesiologist but all sorts of blockages can mean its not working properly for you.
I know what you mean though getting enough naturally,years from now I hope not to have to take too many supplements as Id prefer just to rely on a good diet
3 hours ago, Calcified said:Personal questions that you don't have to answer but do you experience any blood when brushing teeth? This never happened to me until I starting taking vitamin A.
Yes they can bleed actually
mostly from flossing though over brushing them
Hi guys, I'm here to help!
This whole conundrum with Accutane side effects will get solved in our lifetimes. Mark my word.
What do I believe helped me most in recovering by over %35 in the last ten years? It was by following a strict protocol based on quantum homeopathy!
You might hear nonsense coming from the mouths of the western-educated-stupid that homeopathy hasn't been seen working in a laboratory. What these people don't understand is the fact that simply trying to observe water memory negates the effects! Just like Schrodinger's Cat! Plus, they have everything to gain by making it look like things such as accupuncture, detoxing, and homeopathy are useless wastes of money because it puts more money in their pockets selling us more poison.
I have personally witnessed the power of homeopathy and have heard lots of people talk about wonderful results from accupunture and liver detoxing. You can't argue with results.
Someone here mentioned the unsaturated backbone of Accutane. All those double bonds in the backbone combine with the carboxylic acid at the end to create tons of resonance. That's the only thing that makes sense. There doesn't need to be Accutane still lingering.
Do you really think your tissues can be exposed to the disturbances caused by a high concentration of Accutane and not be left wrecked?
This absolutely guaranteed will not just disappear on its own because you quit taking Accutane and just because the Accutane isn't there any more doesn't mean it's not still having an effect. If you learn more about water memory it will begin to make more sense to you.
You owe it to yourself. If you want to feel better like I do, investigate this a little bit. You'll see that what I'm saying is the truth.
All these theories about scrubbing the liver by adding vitamin A to displace Accutane and Grant Generaux's theory about all types of vitamin A being poisonous are nonsense. Think about how much vitamin A you get from eating organic greens. You really believe that's poison like Accutane?
This chain reaction of homeopathic resonance continues long after Accutane is gone and you MUST find some way to put a stop to it. Don't worry, I'll explain little by little in the coming weeks how to go about this.
We're on the verge of a cure here folks!
Interesting stuff dw. Have read good things about homeopathy. Share more info soon if u wish.
Thank you.
I've often wondered why those of us who have our own bioenergenic testing machines or regularly undergo bioenergenic testing often feel a bit better afterward.
Check out this study on nuclear magnetic resonance in homeopathic solutions: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11212083
Of course, they aren't observing an effect because disruption of the hydrogen bonding in water (and water memory) is overwhelmed by the high-power magnetic field used in an NMR scan.
Hoping theres been advancements in the field of Homeopathy!!?
Many of us explored this field well over 10 years ago with either limited or no success. Im nottalking one or two treatments either, my yoga teacher at the time was a practitioner and we spent a year working but had no success......from memory we even used Accutane vile with the idea of like cures like principle of this practice....no success unfortunately
Im hoping theres been advances in the field that are more useful these days
But did you try Biofeedback Quantum Homeopathy?It's state of the art.
"Like cures like" is old hat. You're not going to heal something like the gut that's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside without pulling out high-tech weaponry. You need something that can penetrate deeply and match the resonance imprint left by Accutane. It's that simple.
Quantum homeopathy is the final solution for Accutane side effects.