Thats a very good point and one Id agree with.

years ago when Id consume too much milk Id feel absolutely awful

You dont feel nearly as bad if you slightly overdo it on saythe sweet potatoes and salmon - its a very good point!!

6 hours ago, TrueJustice said:

Thats a very good point and one Id agree with.

years ago when Id consume too much milk Id feel absolutely awful

You dont feel nearly as bad if you slightly overdo it on saythe sweet potatoes and salmon - its a very good point!!

I would avoid sweet potato if you have been on accutane:

100g serving:

6 hours ago, TrueJustice said:

Thats a very good point and one Id agree with.

years ago when Id consume too much milk Id feel absolutely awful

You dont feel nearly as bad if you slightly overdo it on saythe sweet potatoes and salmon - its a very good point!!

Curious if your kinsiologist covers bone turnover?

I wonder if this has something to do with why people are so keen on fasting, paleo or ketosis?

Does anyone here have osteoporosis?

1 hour ago, Calcified said:

Does anyone here have osteoporosis?

This is a good one to check on, calcium is leeched from bone and teeth to buffer retinoic acid in the cell, this excess cellular Ca also promotes hypothyroidism.

One of the major side effects from accutane is the bone density issues, breakage and osteoporosis(leeching of calcium)..

Has anyone tried the carnivore diet? I unfortunately think this may be the only way for some of us to eliminate all symptoms

8 hours ago, under_tow said:

This is a good one to check on, calcium is leeched from bone and teeth to buffer retinoic acid in the cell, this excess cellular Ca also promotes hypothyroidism.

One of the major side effects from accutane is the bone density issues, breakage and osteoporosis(leeching of calcium)..

There is where things get interesting, accutane causes hyperostosis which is the opposite of osteoporosis.

Isotretinoin can cause bone density issues. It's also been shown to cause calcification of arteries, soft tissue and thickening of the carotid arteries. What's with your username btw? Do you have some calcification going on?

1 hour ago, guitarman01 said:

Isotretinoin can cause bone density issues. It's also been shown to cause calcification of arteries, soft tissue and thickening of the carotid arteries. What's with your username btw? Do you have some calcification going on?

Calcification I have.

17 hours ago, Calcified said:

Curious if your kinsiologist covers bone turnover?

I wonder if this has something to do with why people are so keen on fasting, paleo or ketosis?

Does anyone here have osteoporosis?

I can ask.

Youd be best to also ask the anti A crusaders. Any bone/calcium issues might be fixed by eliminating Vit A??

I did blood test 2 weeks ago for Vit D, its low but not out of the range. My hips feel screwed and my lower back hurts.

At this stage kinesiologist still points all of this to gut and liver impairment. Even my Iron levels have been low.

5 hours ago, TrueJustice said:

I can ask.

Youd be best to also ask the anti A crusaders. Any bone/calcium issues might be fixed by eliminating Vit A??

I did blood test 2 weeks ago for Vit D, its low but not out of the range. My hips feel screwed and my lower back hurts.

At this stage kinesiologist still points all of this to gut and liver impairment. Even my Iron levels have been low.

Did you notice reduced joint pain with higher vit D levels, or is it worse with increased stiffness?

10 hours ago, TrueJustice said:

I can ask.

Youd be best to also ask the anti A crusaders. Any bone/calcium issues might be fixed by eliminating Vit A??

I did blood test 2 weeks ago for Vit D, its low but not out of the range. My hips feel screwed and my lower back hurts.

At this stage kinesiologist still points all of this to gut and liver impairment. Even my Iron levels have been low.

What was your vitamin D level at? And what was the reference range?

Vit D results:

Mine was 52

they say sufficiency is 51 - 200

its still too low imo - coming out of summer in Aus, should be at least 70 or more I reckon.

Is it low cause liver is full of VitA?

Again, just trusting in the kinesiology work, as gut & liver continue to improve I expect levels of everything to correct themselves, this extends into iron levels and B12 which have also been low after blood tests.

15 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:

Vit D results:

Mine was 52

they say sufficiency is 51 - 200

its still too low imo - coming out of summer in Aus, should be at least 70 or more I reckon.

Is it low cause liver is full of VitA?

Again, just trusting in the kinesiology work, as gut & liver continue to improve I expect levels of everything to correct themselves, this extends into iron levels and B12 which have also been low after blood tests.

I agree that your vitamin d should be higher. The people that I follow say that vitamin D levels should be in the 70-100 range for treating autoimmune diseases.

I dont think its the liver man. I think it all starts in the gut. Just my opinion though.

I believe it starts in thegut too, as would a kinesiologist. Whatever affects the gut involves the liver as well.

Liver plays the role though of helping with elimination. On top of D, B12and Iron being being low Ive had parasites which Ive had to wipe outand as mentioned in previous posts, were breaking down biofilms and fungus which the liver has to deal with too.

Ever since taking #6 para solve and coriander my irritated itchy eyes have improved, this even extends to itchy nasal passage and arse.

Regardless, the liver has to deal with it, a lot of stress is put on the liver as Ibreak all these other nasty things down and eventually get rid of them.

Another thing that doesnt help with absorption is the fact that Im still on Pariot for acid reflux meaning my gut is producing little hydrochloricacid, the plan again to get off it but it takes time. If I skip two days the reflux comes on strong - kinesiologist believes he can eventually get me off it but got to get on top of other things first.

gastroenterologist never had a plan, they just put you on stuff and say its for life, it took a kinesiologist to detect bad bacteriaissues like h pylori - something the gastro Dr never even looked at.

Does anyone one else notice increasingly intolerance to milk?

Anyone noticed increased levels of serum B12? I've tested several times and it's always high, even though I'm not taking shots or supplements. Literature says it can be caused by liver and/or kidney damage among other things.

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limited observational studies have reported associations of increased vitamin B12 levels with other conditions and disease states, including:

• Liver disease due to release of B12 from damaged liver cells into the bloodstream
• Kidney disease due to impaired function of the kidneys to excrete excess B12
• Increased levels of transcobalamin, which is a transporter of B12 in the bloodstream
• Inflammatory conditions: rheumatoid arthritis, lupus
• Hematologic (or blood) cancers: acute leukemia, multiple myeloma
• Hematopoietic disorder: myeloproliferative neoplasm, myelodysplastic syndrome, hypereosinophilic syndrome, transient neutrophilia

Taking this and other stuff to doctor to see if I can get an ultlrasound of the liver.

On 3/16/2019 at 3:30 PM, MonsterDiesel said:

Anyone noticed increased levels of serum B12? I've tested several times and it's always high, even though I'm not taking shots or supplements. Literature says it can be caused by liver and/or kidney damage among other things.

Taking this and other stuff to doctor to see if I can get an ultlrasound of the liver.

Most of us have low b12, or at least we respond well or have more energy with b12 supplementation.

Quick update:

Been extremely low vitamin A for over 3 months now and this past 2 weeks i've noticed a marked change in my skin. It seems that the skin cell turnover that has caused destruction of my facial skin is actually slowing down. For years i've had dry, flaky skin on my face and in a morning when i rub in moisturizer it rolls up flakes of skinthat I then have to brush off. That's no longer the case, i've noticed this past 2 weeks that those flakes are no longer there.

I've become cautious of posting things about progress after so many false dawns, however, this is something tangible and something that has markedly changed whilst doing this diet, which nothing else i've tried has changed.

I mean, i'm only guessing at the fact that it's due to the turnover slowing down after reducing vitamin A. I've felt so much more confident this past week or 2. No breakouts either, just the odd red bump which has gone a lot quicker than normal.

Hopefully this is the path to healing my skin!

1 hour ago, Justdry said:

Quick update:

Been extremely low vitamin A for over 3 months now and this past 2 weeks i've noticed a marked change in my skin. It seems that the skin cell turnover that has caused destruction of my facial skin is actually slowing down. For years i've had dry, flaky skin on my face and in a morning when i rub in moisturizer it rolls up flakes of skinthat I then have to brush off. That's no longer the case, i've noticed this past 2 weeks that those flakes are no longer there.

I've become cautious of posting things about progress after so many false dawns, however, this is something tangible and something that has markedly changed whilst doing this diet, which nothing else i've tried has changed.

I mean, i'm only guessing at the fact that it's due to the turnover slowing down after reducing vitamin A. I've felt so much more confident this past week or 2. No breakouts either, just the odd red bump which has gone a lot quicker than normal.

Hopefully this is the path to healing my skin!

wow this sounds like incredible good news. all the best for your further journey and please updateus on the further progress

2 hours ago, Justdry said:

Quick update:

Been extremely low vitamin A for over 3 months now and this past 2 weeks i've noticed a marked change in my skin. It seems that the skin cell turnover that has caused destruction of my facial skin is actually slowing down. For years i've had dry, flaky skin on my face and in a morning when i rub in moisturizer it rolls up flakes of skinthat I then have to brush off. That's no longer the case, i've noticed this past 2 weeks that those flakes are no longer there.

I've become cautious of posting things about progress after so many false dawns, however, this is something tangible and something that has markedly changed whilst doing this diet, which nothing else i've tried has changed.

I mean, i'm only guessing at the fact that it's due to the turnover slowing down after reducing vitamin A. I've felt so much more confident this past week or 2. No breakouts either, just the odd red bump which has gone a lot quicker than normal.

Hopefully this is the path to healing my skin!

Can you be specific about what foods youve been eating while on this diet?

2 minutes ago, Chris16 said:

Can you be specific about what foods youve been eating while on this diet?

3 hours ago, Justdry said:

Quick update:

Been extremely low vitamin A for over 3 months now and this past 2 weeks i've noticed a marked change in my skin. It seems that the skin cell turnover that has caused destruction of my facial skin is actually slowing down. For years i've had dry, flaky skin on my face and in a morning when i rub in moisturizer it rolls up flakes of skinthat I then have to brush off. That's no longer the case, i've noticed this past 2 weeks that those flakes are no longer there.

I've become cautious of posting things about progress after so many false dawns, however, this is something tangible and something that has markedly changed whilst doing this diet, which nothing else i've tried has changed.

I mean, i'm only guessing at the fact that it's due to the turnover slowing down after reducing vitamin A. I've felt so much more confident this past week or 2. No breakouts either, just the odd red bump which has gone a lot quicker than normal.

Hopefully this is the path to healing my skin!

Please let us know what your diet has been. I've tried doing the same low vitamin a diet but heck, even hot sauce has carotenoids so It's extremely difficult.

1 hour ago, Chris16 said:

Can you be specific about what foods youve been eating while on this diet?

1 hour ago, MonsterDiesel said:

Please let us know what your diet has been. I've tried doing the same low vitamin a diet but heck, even hot sauce has carotenoids so It's extremely difficult.

Staple zero VA foods: beef, rice and beans

Very low VA foods:
lean chicken/turkey, egg white, non fatty fish, nuts
coconut oil, olive oil, sunflower or safflower oil
bread, pasta, potato, oatmeal, white corn, non-fortified cereals
cauliflower, turnip, celeriac, parsnip, onion, garlic, radish, olives, pickles, cabbage
banana, grapes, apples, pineapple, raisins, dates, blueberries, raspberries, strawberry, cherry
Apple juice, grape juice, lemonade, coconut milk, most rice/almond milk is fortified
Sugars, maple, honey, brown/white

10 hours ago, under_tow said:

 

Staple zero VA foods: beef, rice and beans

Very low VA foods:
lean chicken/turkey, egg white, non fatty fish, nuts
coconut oil, olive oil, sunflower or safflower oil
bread, pasta, potato, oatmeal, white corn, non-fortified cereals
cauliflower, turnip, celeriac, parsnip, onion, garlic, radish, olives, pickles, cabbage
banana, grapes, apples, pineapple, raisins, dates, blueberries, raspberries, strawberry, cherry
Apple juice, grape juice, lemonade, coconut milk, most rice/almond milk is fortified
Sugars, maple, honey, brown/white

Would I be right in saying this diet is also low in calcium?

Hey -

I've been eating:

Turkey, Chicken and beef.

White Rice, sometimes pasta, potatoes, olive oil, bread, cauliflower, lots of oats, oat milk, raisins.

I haven't particularly been eating any fruit as most of it containscarotenoids and i'm still unsure on what would be okay. I'm not worried about the lack of fruit whilst testing this theory out though.

The only real vitamin A i get in the day is from hot sauce which I use for flavor. Doesn't add up tomuch vitamin A intake at all.

5 hours ago, Calcified said:

Would I be right in saying this diet is also low in calcium?

No it's not low in calcium. I believe Oats are the biggest 'superfood' within this diet. I have 2 large bowls per day, plus a couple of oat based snacks her day. Oats contain more calcium than a glass of milk would, for example. There are no worries about a lack of calcium whilst going low vitamin A, as long as you include oats.

7 hours ago, Calcified said:

Would I be right in saying this diet is also low in calcium?

Nope not terribly low, but calcium is leeched from bone and teeth to buffer vitamin A's acidity, it is why we get calcified, too much vitamin A. Once vitamin A is out, calcium is not needed and should stay in bone and teeth where it should be.