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3 hours ago, under_tow said:Nope not terribly low, but calcium is leeched from bone and teeth to buffer vitamin A's acidity, it is why we get calcified, too much vitamin A. Once vitamin A is out, calcium is not needed and should stay in bone and teeth where it should be.
I get the calcium/hypothyroid connection you made previously, it makes sense, hyper PTH causes weight gain etc.
I wasn't implying really low calcium, just low compared to western diet that is loaded with dairy.
Reduction in dairy seems to be an underlying common link, between diets showing improvement, vegan, paleo, fasting, anti Aetc, right?
9 minutes ago, Calcified said:
I get the calcium/hypothyroid connection you made previously, it makes sense, hyper PTH causes weight gain etc.
I wasn't implying really low calcium, just low compared to western diet that is loaded with dairy.
Reduction in dairy seems to be an underlying common link, between diets showing improvement, vegan, paleo, fasting, anti Aetc, right?
Yep and pretty much all factory dairy is supplemented with synthetic retinyl palmitate.
Hi y'all, think I'm doing pretty good with anxiety, mind fog, and depression. However, the ED still looms at large. I can get hard, but go soft in about 10seconds.
Back in November I did some fasting, a total of 12 days with 2 days keto in the middle (and had been keto for 6 weeks preceding this), and after that I got morning wood for 2 months straight, and libido seemed stronger. While I was fasting I would just have electrolytes, bi-carb soda, and cayenne pepper. Eventually it went back to baseline, and I tried fasting with electrolytes again, and didn't do much.
However, I'm also starting to think it wasn't the fasting that was helping my libido, but actually Cayenne Pepper. Just a few grams a day with mixed with ~200mL of water on an empty stomach (I do IF or ADF and take it in the morning and don't eat until late afternoon), and I'll get morning wood the next day. I don't know WHY it does it, and no studies out there really seem to explain why it does it... So this is entirely anecdotal, but it can reduce symptoms of IBS, maybe it helps there somehow,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21573941
It also reducedexperimental autoimmune neuritis in rates, which is used as an animal model forGullain-Barre syndrome
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5916583/ ; and other autoimmune disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26812350
Obviously I'm not a massive fan of the fact that I can find so little evidence to support why this thing is helping me, but the fact is it IS helping me... Unless its a massive coincidence. I hate not having much research to back up my claim. Anyway, its working so far, and seeing its pretty easy to test, I'd thought I'd let you guys know
19 minutes ago, fchawk said:Hi y'all, think I'm doing pretty good with anxiety, mind fog, and depression. However, the ED still looms at large. I can get hard, but go soft in about 10seconds.
Back in November I did some fasting, a total of 12 days with 2 days keto in the middle (and had been keto for 6 weeks preceding this), and after that I got morning wood for 2 months straight, and libido seemed stronger. While I was fasting I would just have electrolytes, bi-carb soda, and cayenne pepper. Eventually it went back to baseline, and I tried fasting with electrolytes again, and didn't do much.
However, I'm also starting to think it wasn't the fasting that was helping my libido, but actually Cayenne Pepper. Just a few grams a day with mixed with ~200mL of water on an empty stomach (I do IF or ADF and take it in the morning and don't eat until late afternoon), and I'll get morning wood the next day. I don't know WHY it does it, and no studies out there really seem to explain why it does it... So this is entirely anecdotal, but it can reduce symptoms of IBS, maybe it helps there somehow,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21573941
It also reducedexperimental autoimmune neuritis in rates, which is used as an animal model forGullain-Barre syndrome
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5916583/ ; and other autoimmune disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26812350
Obviously I'm not a massive fan of the fact that I can find so little evidence to support why this thing is helping me, but the fact is it IS helping me... Unless its a massive coincidence. I hate not having much research to back up my claim. Anyway, its working so far, and seeing its pretty easy to test, I'd thought I'd let you guys know
Fasting is a quick way to dump stored vitamin A, it has helped me immensely in the past before I knew vitamin A overload was the issue.
Cayenne is high is vitamin A, I would avoid using large amounts.
1tsp:
| VitaminA | 748.98IU | 15% |
| VitaminA,RAE | 37.46mcg | |
| Carotene,alpha | 0.00mcg | |
| Carotene,beta | 393.12mcg | |
| Cryptoxanthin,beta | 112.54mcg | |
| Lutein+zeaxanthin | 236.83mcg | |
| Lycopene | 0.00mcg |
4 hours ago, fchawk said:Hi y'all, think I'm doing pretty good with anxiety, mind fog, and depression. However, the ED still looms at large. I can get hard, but go soft in about 10seconds.
Back in November I did some fasting, a total of 12 days with 2 days keto in the middle (and had been keto for 6 weeks preceding this), and after that I got morning wood for 2 months straight, and libido seemed stronger. While I was fasting I would just have electrolytes, bi-carb soda, and cayenne pepper. Eventually it went back to baseline, and I tried fasting with electrolytes again, and didn't do much.
However, I'm also starting to think it wasn't the fasting that was helping my libido, but actually Cayenne Pepper. Just a few grams a day with mixed with ~200mL of water on an empty stomach (I do IF or ADF and take it in the morning and don't eat until late afternoon), and I'll get morning wood the next day. I don't know WHY it does it, and no studies out there really seem to explain why it does it... So this is entirely anecdotal, but it can reduce symptoms of IBS, maybe it helps there somehow,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21573941
It also reducedexperimental autoimmune neuritis in rates, which is used as an animal model forGullain-Barre syndrome
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5916583/ ; and other autoimmune disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26812350
Obviously I'm not a massive fan of the fact that I can find so little evidence to support why this thing is helping me, but the fact is it IS helping me... Unless its a massive coincidence. I hate not having much research to back up my claim. Anyway, its working so far, and seeing its pretty easy to test, I'd thought I'd let you guys know
Do you drink coffee/milk products?
On 3/12/2019 at 8:21 AM, cnb30 said:Its been a while since I posted here but I think Ill make some updates.
- I made the mistake of taking a small amount of Fin in order to try to improve, but that only made things far worse.
-However, before hand, I think I reached a point where I was somewhat content.
- I fasted multiple times for up to 9 days this past fall, and I had some moderate improvements in libido after doing so. Also got rid of lethargic feelings for the most part (never had a non-lethargic winter before). I also did a repair protocol which mightve contributed to the success too.
- Ive tried doing a couple liver flushes, and am currently trying to go Vegan (starting over a week ago Sunday). Morning inflamation has significantly reduced.
Also, anybody know what happened to the Hackstasis forum? Its been quiet as of late?
That was quite the bold move to try finasteride. There were probably 4-5 post-Accutane patients who posted recovery or improvement stories in this thread after fin, so it is a dangerously appealing treatment. I've thought about trying it myself, but can't bring myself to.
How much finasteride did you take and for how long? Did you notice any brief rebound improvement? Have you improved at all since stopping finasteride?
20 hours ago, under_tow said:Fasting is a quick way to dump stored vitamin A, it has helped me immensely in the past before I knew vitamin A overload was the issue.
Cayenne is high is vitamin A, I would avoid using large amounts.
1tsp:
VitaminA 748.98IU 15% VitaminA,RAE 37.46mcg Carotene,alpha 0.00mcg Carotene,beta 393.12mcg Cryptoxanthin,beta 112.54mcg Lutein+zeaxanthin 236.83mcg Lycopene 0.00mcg
Ahh, I'm on the "faction" that you shouldn't avoid vitamin A, especially beta carotene, as it is impossible to get vitamin A overdoses from beta-carotene(Though significant dosages can cause issues unrelated to vitamin A), and the reason I believe this is because Isotretinoin is a derivative of vitamin A, and can actually cause symptoms of vitamin A deficiency, such as night blindness, and I wouldn't be surprised the reason some of us got adverse reactions is because we were initally low in vitamin A, then that was exacerbated by vitamin A having to compete with isotretinoin, as they compete for the same receptors but have the differing effects.
-Carotene Conversion to Vitamin A Decreases As the Dietary Dose Increases in Humans
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2855261/
Night blindness precipitated by isotretinoin in the setting of hypovitaminosis A.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10570558
16 hours ago, Calcified said:Do you drink coffee/milk products?
I have gone dairy free before in 2015, didn't notice much differenc in accutane symptoms. At least I got used to Soy Milk haha
Lastly legit just got woken up by morning wood, I'm not sure whether it acts more like viagra as a vasodilator, or is actually doing something useful in the brain. All I can say is that I kept getting morning wood for over a month last time I discontinued it last time, and within two days of starting it again I started getting morning wood this time around (Started Saturday, been getting morning wood again since Monday).
Basically I would be doing a disservice to myself and you guys if I didn't post this, which is why I came back after about half a year away, just to say this random thing.
On 3/20/2019 at 9:39 PM, fchawk said:the reason I believe this is because Isotretinoin is a derivative of vitamin A, and can actually cause symptoms of vitamin A deficiency, such as night blindness, and I wouldn't be surprised the reason some of us got adverse reactions is because we were initally low in vitamin A, then that was exacerbated by vitamin A having to compete with isotretinoin, as they compete for the same receptors but have the differing effects.
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Accutane is active vitamin A, in massive dosages, it does not compete with retinoic acid, it is retinoic acid. Night blindness is vitamin A toxicity. If you had acne, you were never deficient in vitamin A, acne is caused by vitamin A overload. Accutane is complete body saturation of active vitamin A, which ameliorates stem cells and shutdown sebaceous glands, this clears acne while on it, but sets the user up for all the other side effects. Water fasting is a very quick way to deplete vitamin A, fasting is why you saw symptoms clearing
And yes you can get hypervitaminosis A from beta carotene, especially on the western diet, in which all forms of vitamin A are ubiquitous.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22431270
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22431270
"In this case report, the authors describe a 48-year-old male who complained to his primary care physician of abdominal discomfort and yellow/orange skin discoloration. Physical examination was normal except for some mild mid-abdominal discomfort (no observed skin color changes). An abdominal CT scan indicated a colon that was full of stool. Laboratory studies indicated elevated liver enzymes. Upon further questioning, the patient reported ingesting 6-7 pounds of carrots per week to facilitate his dieting effort. The patient was diagnosed with constipation, hypercarotinemia, and possible vitamin A toxicity. Following the cessation of excessive carrot ingestion, his liver enzymes normalized within 1 month."
Honestly that source, which is a single case study, doesn't show any evidence of vitamin A toxicity at all. The symptoms he was complaining about was predominatelyconstipation and hypercarotinemia. Hypercarotinemiawould happen long before Hypervitaminosis A, because beta-carotene only converts about 17%[1] of beta-carotene to Vitamin A in the best of times, and reduces that to <5%[2]when there is adequate amounts of vitamin A. Asuming he was having 10 carrots a day, he was likely have about 6mg of vitamin A equivalent, or ~15,000 IU. Basically the researches are dumb for even suggesting"possible vitamin A toxicity", they were just covering their asses
Also given Acne is caused by a vitamin A overload, then whydoes Isotretinoin 'cure' acne in the majority of cases? It only completely fucks a minority of us, but the majority take the course, then are fine. If Isotretinoin WAS vitamin A, then why would acne wouldn't be cured?I'm not saying whether vitamin A causes acne or not, but it is obvious Isotretinoin is not interchangable with vitamin A. Hell, the fact thatIsotretinoin 'cures acne'suggests that Isotretinoin causes Vitamin A deficiency if you are correct.
1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139236/
2. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20237064
Also note
Also note in "Isotretinoin-Induced Night Blindness[3]", Vitamin A cured the night blindness, at a does of 25,000 IU.
3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4533586/
This is why I don't like this forum, stuff like this, which is obviously wrong and has been disproved 100s of times, is perpetuated again and again, which means that the info you get here isn'tneccesarily good. If I didn't waste 30 minutes to respond, people will think themisinformation was right, but in two days this will be buried again.Someone who missed this will be misunderstoodagain. But next time I won't be here to waste 30 minutes disproving it.
So you don't have to worry about cayanne pepper for the negligible amount of vitamin A in it, even if you are in the anti-vitamin A camp, and the anti-vitamin a camp makes no sense anyway
57 minutes ago, fchawk said:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22431270
"In this case report, the authors describe a 48-year-old male who complained to his primary care physician of abdominal discomfort and yellow/orange skin discoloration. Physical examination was normal except for some mild mid-abdominal discomfort (no observed skin color changes). An abdominal CT scan indicated a colon that was full of stool. Laboratory studies indicated elevated liver enzymes. Upon further questioning, the patient reported ingesting 6-7 pounds of carrots per week to facilitate his dieting effort. The patient was diagnosed with constipation, hypercarotinemia, and possible vitamin A toxicity. Following the cessation of excessive carrot ingestion, his liver enzymes normalized within 1 month."
Honestly that source, which is a single case study, doesn't show any evidence of vitamin A toxicity at all. The symptoms he was complaining about was predominatelyconstipation and hypercarotinemia. Hypercarotinemiawould happen long before Hypervitaminosis A, because beta-carotene only converts about 17%[1] of beta-carotene to Vitamin A in the best of times, and reduces that to <5%[2]when there is adequate amounts of vitamin A. Asuming he was having 10 carrots a day, he was likely have about 6mg of vitamin A equivalent, or ~15,000 IU. Basically the researches are dumb for even suggesting"possible vitamin A toxicity", they were just covering their asses
Also given Acne is caused by a vitamin A overload, then whydoes Isotretinoin 'cure' acne in the majority of cases? It only completely fucks a minority of us, but the majority take the course, then are fine. If Isotretinoin WAS vitamin A, then why would acne wouldn't be cured?I'm not saying whether vitamin A causes acne or not, but it is obvious Isotretinoin is not interchangable with vitamin A. Hell, the fact thatIsotretinoin 'cures acne'suggests that Isotretinoin causes Vitamin A deficiency if you are correct.
1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139236/
2. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20237064
Also note
Also note in "Isotretinoin-Induced Night Blindness[3]", Vitamin A cured the night blindness, at a does of 25,000 IU.
3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4533586/
This is why I hate this forum, shit like this, which is obviously wrong and has been disproved 100s of times, is perpetuated again and again. If I didn't waste 30 minutes to respond, people will think themisinformation was right, but in two days this will be buried again.Someone who missed this will be misunderstoodagain. But next time I won't be here to waste 30 minutes disproving it.
So you don't have to worry about cayanne pepper for the negligible amount of vitamin A in it, even if you are in the anti-vitamin A camp, and the anti-vitamin a camp makes no sense anyway
For what it's worth thanks for the info on cayanne pepper, I suspect most people reading this aren't in anti vitamin a camp.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was the vitamin A in it helping you.
3 minutes ago, Calcified said:For what it's worth thanks for the info on cayanne pepper, I suspect most people reading this aren't in anti vitamin a camp.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was the vitamin A in it helping you.
If your body is converting beta carotene into vit A it means your body wants it. It is also why some people get mixed results from vitamin D. Isotretinoin can cause vit D deficiency, and certainly causes symptoms of vitamin A toxicity, but also symptoms of vit A deficiency, and going too hard on the vit D and exacerbate vit A deficiency. Just take some vitamin A, D, E and K so you are not defiicient in any of them, don't fully avoid any of them.
The reason I talked about cayanne pepper is I doubt its the tiny bit of beta carotene thats helping me, its just that takingit gives me morning wood and easier/better erections. I don't know the exact mechanism on why, but if ED is your main issue, try it out
Regardless of all the literature, you can post thousands of reports - the proof is in how you feel.
Its still not clear, some say they are feeling better on the Anti A diet, others say we aredeficient in VitA after Tane....
Im still undecided -all I know is Ive made vast improvements by working with a kinesiologist who knows how to fix the gut, Ive broken down first two layers of bio films successfully and this has nothing to do with taking or avoiding Vit A
Fact - you cant fix your gut by justfocusing on Vit A, Regardless of what you think about it.
Imo - you cant improve your health till you fix your gut.....
10 hours ago, TrueJustice said:Regardless of all the literature, you can post thousands of reports - the proof is in how you feel.
Its still not clear, some say they are feeling better on the Anti A diet, others say we aredeficient in VitA after Tane....
Im still undecided -all I know is Ive made vast improvements by working with a kinesiologist who knows how to fix the gut, Ive broken down first two layers of bio films successfully and this has nothing to do with taking or avoiding Vit A
Fact - you cant fix your gut by justfocusing on Vit A, Regardless of what you think about it.
Imo - you cant improve your health till you fix your gut.....
No the proof is in the reports actually
On 3/22/2019 at 6:01 AM, fchawk said:Also given Acne is caused by a vitamin A overload, then whydoes Isotretinoin 'cure' acne in the majority of cases? It only completely fucks a minority of us, but the majority take the course, then are fine. If Isotretinoin WAS vitamin A, then why would acne wouldn't be cured?I'm not saying whether vitamin A causes acne or not, but it is obvious Isotretinoin is not interchangable with vitamin A. Hell, the fact thatIsotretinoin 'cures acne'suggests that Isotretinoin causes Vitamin A deficiency if you are correct.
Vitamin A and Accutane are retins with the same chemical formula but isomers due to the 13-cis rotation on the COOH carboxylic group.
Vitamin A: C20H28O2 - retinoic acid (9-cis):
Accutane(or any of the other vendor names): C20H28O2- retinoic acid (13-cis)
Retinoic acid is used in chemotherapy, that is how they discovered the effect on the sebaceous glands. Taking large doses does not cure acne, its like being on chemo, shuts down stem cells, shut down the body, shuts down sebaceous glands, and once you stopped it stays stored in fat/liver tissues, stored in testes and brain, and starts to cause all the side effects of PAS.
Why do you think fasting helped you so much?
Beta-carotene:
Thyroid:
Alzheimer:
https://nutritionrestored.com/blog-forum/topic/alzheimers-disease-ad-2/
Vitamin D:
Infertility:
https://nutritionrestored.com/blog-forum/topic/excess-poison-vitamin-a-causes-infertility-in-men/
Heart disease:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3557503/
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On 3/22/2019 at 6:01 AM, fchawk said:Also note in "Isotretinoin-Induced Night Blindness[3]", Vitamin A cured the night blindness, at a does of 25,000 IU.
You do realize that night blindness went away when the stopped the accutane, which is massive high dose vitamin A, taking smaller amounts when they stopped didn't resolve the issue, stopping taking in millions of IU of vitamin A solved the issues.
On 3/22/2019 at 7:23 AM, TrueJustice said:Fact - you cant fix your gut by justfocusing on Vit A, Regardless of what you think about it.
Imo - you cant improve your health till you fix your gut.....
Fact - you can fix your gut by focusing on getting VA out, with VA out you will have stopped the epithelial tissues in your intestine from dying off.
"To make the point perfectly clear, consider the following: diabetes is a disease of the pancreatic epithelial tissues. Eczema is a disease of the skin, a stratified epithelial tissue of the epidermis. Heart disease and stroke are diseases of the epithelial tissues lining the blood vessels. Multiple sclerosis is a disease of the epithelial tissues making up the myelin sheaths wrapping nerves. IBD, Crohns, and colitis are diseases of the epithelial tissues making up the lower digestive tract. Cataracts is the disease of the epithelial tissues making the lens of the eye. Xerophthalmia (chronic dry eyes) is the diseases of the epithelial tissues of the tear ducts, and other glands within the eye. Asthma is a disease of the epithelial tissues of the lungs. The same applies to many of the other named chronic diseases. They can be more appropriately, and correctly, named as epithelial disease. However, we need to be a bit more precise; they are truly epithelial poisonings. There is only one potential poison in our foods that can be responsible for all of this, and it is vitamin-A!"
On 3/22/2019 at 8:12 PM, Calcified said:Under_tow - after 1 million IU s of palmitate my serum retinol went down, got any ideas?
If your zinc and amino acid status is good, your body hopefully has retinol binding protein in overdrive to keep it down in your blood.
Serum retinol is not a good indicator of saturation though. One user doing zero VA for 8.5 months as of today, saw serum retinol actually go up, with zero VA coming in. All her symptoms are now clear though, and saw cholesterol go down, due to it being high from VA inflammation.
Retinyl esters in the blood are needed to be measured and they are not. Also liver and tissues biopsies would be necessary to show their saturation.
The thing is the standard vit A blood test does not correlate well with the actual storage in the liver. Serum retinyl esters seem to correlate, but it's not a standard test... Serum retinyl esters are positively correlated with liver vitamin A reserves
@Calcified Should have added, that probably elevated retinol in her blood, because body is allowing it to be actively cleared, since none coming in, so being delivered to urine and feces for excrement.
In your case, you are saturated your system in synthetic vitamin A, body is working hard with RBP to packed in away in storage, in your fat and liver to protect you from it, keeping it low in blood.
Does it have to be so hard?
Its easy enough to say avoid milk, eggs, fruit etc where we know its heavy in Vit A
But all the incidental levels of A in sauces and different foodsmakes it really hard to completely avoidyeah
I read years ago that Vit E can combat excess Vit A, why cant we just start toup the dose of both E & Vit D to push out the A from storage in our bodies?
Theres got to be an easier way than having to beon a controlledAnti A dietfor the next 35 years surely??
18 hours ago, TrueJustice said:Theres got to be an easier way than having to beon a controlledAnti A dietfor the next 35 years surely??
Posted earlier in the thread the excretion times for vitamin A, on average 1-2 years to get down to baseline from the normal western diet intake(this is on strict zero VA foods), accutane may take longer, it is not known. But many people are improving immensely in the first few months, my self included. I would imagine after getting it down in 12 months or longer you could start back on the western diet, but be vigilant and not pounding sweet potato, milk, eggs and pizza for every meal.
20 hours ago, gutskinaxis said:I feel best on a fasting or "keto" like diet, but I'm still not convinced natural vitamin A is the problem. I completely agree you should cut out synthetic vitamin A. But the biggest factor for me is reducing sugar, carbs, and eating a paleo like diet.
I read protein increases vitamin a levels and without it they don't go up.
On 3/13/2019 at 8:55 AM, under_tow said:Hi @Akos
Zero vitamin A diet is a new approach, people with accutane use are just starting to test, I am 4 months into this.
Hi @under_tow, how are you?
So I guess the answer is No (you dont know anyone)
On 3/13/2019 at 8:55 AM, under_tow said:What are the wrong/false assumptions, please explain more, would be interested to see the responses from 1 year ago?
Yes, Genereux made terrible assumptions. Let me gather the information you are asking for. I will try to find a moment next week and I will post.
On 3/19/2019 at 4:13 PM, under_tow said:Fasting is a quick way to dump stored vitamin A, it has helped me immensely in the past before I knew vitamin A overload was the issue.
@under_towWhat tests have you done to know VA overload was the issue?
On 3/19/2019 at 3:52 PM, fchawk said:Hi y'all, think I'm doing pretty good with anxiety, mind fog, and depression. However, the ED still looms at large. I can get hard, but go soft in about 10seconds.
Hi @fchawk
These are psychological issues. Do you think they are related to Accutane taken years ago?
I have never had ED. But, if you get morning woods and you get erections but you cant keep them until ejaculation, it seems to me that the problem is not physical.
Why do you think ED is related to Accutane?
Have you consulted an urologist or a Sex Therapist? What did they tell you?
On 3/20/2019 at 12:52 AM, fchawk said:It also reducedexperimental autoimmune neuritis in rates, which is used as an animal model forGullain-Barre syndrome
I also came across Guillain barre syndrome or GBS looking at possible treatments for autoimmune neuropathy.
Treatment of Guillain-Barre syndrome with Bifidobacterium infantis through regulation of T helper cells subsets.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1567576918302662?via%3Dihub
We concluded from this study thatBifidobacteriumalleviated GBS by regulating Th cells, although in-depth studies might be required to fully understand the mechanism of action.
The question is what exact strain? this is at least narrowed down to Bifido Longum, infantis is a subspeciesof bifido longum.
Created an account at propeciahelp and filled in the intro template (I was pretty brief), took about 5 minutes. Now it seems i'm just waiting for an invite to take the survey.
Thanks.
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On 3/24/2019 at 10:14 PM, Akos said:Hi @under_tow, how are you?
So I guess the answer is No (you dont know anyone)
I am finally becoming well, so doing very good.
I am 2 time accutane user, decade apart, 2 full rounds at 80mg/day for 6months.
Also acne.org user @Justdry, who is PAS and 3months VA free, and improving, but time will tell. I am hoping there are lurkers testing this out as well. Also large group of people on [removed] testing this, some are PAS, but most are just western diet sick. Experimentation is the only way forward, no regular doctor is going to be helpful, PAS is on no ones radar.
The only real test to proof vitamin A overload is retinyl esters (this is not very easy to get done), or liver biopsies (to invasive). Retinol or RBP in blood is not useful. Skin coloration is good though, calluses on hands and feet and especially around the eye, yellow, light brownish, orange, indicates carortenoid overload and potentially retin overload.
Sexual sides are a major PAS symptom, many many people have reported this. Retinoic acid can cause birth defects in accutane dosages, so I suspect our testes don't fair very well when we are on it. Get the fat soluble fat stored VA and fat soluble fat stored 13-cis retinoic acid out and heal.