20 hours ago, TrueJustice said:No, I dont believe B12 willdo that.
I too suffer that dizziness feeling, coupled with head tension. Kinesiologist without me asking picked up on it. You may also suffer that jumbled brain feeling where the left & the right get muddled and coordination becomes an issue - I get this happening even in the things I like to do such as guitar playing......very frustrating
Again kinesiology has been helping to reverse this.....not completely solved yet though.
Also: Inseeing kinesiologist yesterday and mentioning my B12 levels are actually higher than the range ( due to supplementing) she tested with the vile to see if it was stressing me out - turns out that it isnt and so she said I can continue to supplement if I like.
Just out of interest: could the kinesiologist help with dry skin in any way? do you see any improvement?
Thats a really good question and is something I wish to overcome too at some point.
As Ive said before, I sweat profusely post Tane yet the oil in my skinis gone - I would so love for it to come back!!.
To answer your question- no we havent delved into skin moisture yet, when I meet up again with the head kinesiologist Ill ask him what he thinks.
This autonomic nervous system dysfunctionhas me now asking a lot of questions- I want to know more about it and again what the kinesiologist thinks.
Erectile dysfunction and profuse sweating are just two symptoms from what Ive read.
The lack of moisture itself though seems to stem from how Tane fucked up our collagen production.......how to fix the collagen seems to be the question in this regard.
8 hours ago, TrueJustice said:Thats a really good question and is something I wish to overcome too at some point.
As Ive said before, I sweat profusely post Tane yet the oil in my skinis gone - I would so love for it to come back!!.
To answer your question- no we havent delved into skin moisture yet, when I meet up again with the head kinesiologist Ill ask him what he thinks.
This autonomic nervous system dysfunctionhas me now asking a lot of questions- I want to know more about it and again what the kinesiologist thinks.
Erectile dysfunction and profuse sweating are just two symptoms from what Ive read.
The lack of moisture itself though seems to stem from how Tane fucked up our collagen production.......how to fix the collagen seems to be the question in this regard.
Do you have high cortisol or high in range cortisol? I don't sweat.
Read this please, it's a clear scienfic study. Go to pg 7 and 13.
Decreased Vitamin B12and Folic Acid Concentrations in Acne Patients After Isotretinoin Therapy: A Controlled Study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4248518/#!po=35.7143
17 minutes ago, Francisco..Blanquez said:Read this please, it's a clear scienfic study. Go to pg 7 and 13.
Decreased Vitamin B12and Folic Acid Concentrations in Acne Patients After Isotretinoin Therapy: A Controlled Study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4248518/#!po=35.7143
Increasing yourB12 and folic acid isnt going to cure anyones side effects. Weve beendown this path before.
I think the best suplementisfood. I feel much better when eating cod which is a b12 source. Another superfood I have tested is fermented red cabbage.
And another one..and maybe the better ....is fermented cod liver oil. Having this one I felt a rise of energy and the wish to do things, lot of things, amending the bike, making furnising, going out for a walk... But the brand to buy is important. One have to do a little research to find the right one. I used to buy on internet, the drugstore changed its provider and I noticed the product was not so strong, although still good.
9 minutes ago, Francisco..Blanquez said:I think the best suplementisfood. I feel much better when eating cod which is a b12 source. Another superfood I have tested is fermented red cabbage.
And another one..and maybe the better ....is fermented cod liver oil. Having this one I felt a rise of energy and the wish to do things, lot of things, amending the bike, making furnising, going out for a walk... But the brand to buy is important. One have to do a little research to find the right one. I used to buy on internet, the drugstore changed its provider and I noticed the product was not so strong, although still good.
Yes, find the diet that works best for you(which for me is AIP diet without oils) and do some fasting.
On 1/9/2019 at 8:46 AM, Gatu77777 said:Yes it is very frustrating. I can't even walk properly I keep walking into things.
I fasted yesterday and I feel amazing right now. My dizziness is going away. I can also see clearer and the tension on my head is going away. Why is this happening?
I want to fast for the rest of the day but I'm so hungry.
Have you tried phosphatidylcholine? I heard it helps with proper brain function
I told about fasting and gluten and sugar intolerance. Based on my experience fasting is good because you stop eating gluten and sugar.
There are more people here that have figured out this. On a extrict gluten and sugar free diet you feel like when fasting.
I am on the stage of looking for a healtht gluten and sugar free diet.
17 minutes ago, Francisco..Blanquez said:I told about fasting and gluten and sugar intolerance. Based on my experience fasting is good because you stop eating gluten and sugar.
There are more people here that have figured out this. On a extrict gluten and sugar free diet you feel like when fasting.
I am on the stage of looking for a healtht gluten and sugar free diet.
I agree. I'm going to try a paleo diet. I started eating normal today and I feel horrible again
2 hours ago, Francisco..Blanquez said:Read this please, it's a clear scienfic study. Go to pg 7 and 13.
Decreased Vitamin B12and Folic Acid Concentrations in Acne Patients After Isotretinoin Therapy: A Controlled Study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4248518/#!po=35.7143
But to be clear supplementing with B12 or fasting is only providing relief yeah - lets be clear that its not a completecure so we dont mislead people
No amount of fasting or supplementing is going to bring back oil, make floaters disappear, make hair full again, correct balance issues etc etc etc
I like that these things work for people, for me the best thing is good rest and a good nights sleep that provide less irritability and fatigue the following day.....Im still Accutaned though just to be clear.
FYI - blood tests results obtained on Mondayindicated no problem with either B12 or Folic Acid levels!!
21 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:But to be clear supplementing with B12 or fasting is only providing relief yeah - lets be clear that its not a completecure so we dont mislead people
No amount of fasting or supplementing is going to bring back oil, make floaters disappear, make hair full again, correct balance issues etc etc etc
I like that these things work for people, for me the best thing is good rest and a good nights sleep that provide less irritability and fatigue the following day.....Im still Accutaned though just to be clear.
FYI - blood tests results obtained on Mondayindicated no problem with either B12 or Folic Acid levels!!
What are you talking about??? Youve been on this forum longenough to know that people have completely healed from fasting and diet changes. Youre the problem with this forum withgiving people no hope. Reasons why I rarely post here.
A couple of forum users who have healed on fasting and diet changes:
Connor Mcelvin (User116745)
Anonyy
Scclippers
Washer
TaneAbomination
And many more...
19 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:Apologies- I didnt know they were cured
Did they come back and state that??
must of missed it.
Ok guys - fasting is the answer, no need to invest any more time into other areas or the need to get any moreresearch conducted.
Yes, how else would I know that they are healed...?
Maybe you should look them up.
On 1/8/2019 at 1:19 PM, TrueJustice said:
40 minutes ago, Chris16 said:Yes, how else would I know that they are healed...?
Maybe you should look them up.
Why is fasting the cure? Why dont normal people need to fast? That's the question, what's been changed.
Is it growth hormone deficiency? Is that why we feel so old?
Or maybe they can finish off properly here on forum by telling their story before fucking off??
How many people come here all guns blazing only to disappear- no follow up or commitment to help others??
Ive been accused my myself of not caring about others -what a load of shit!!!!.....Id have the decency if cured to come back and share the story at least, not just disappear without a trace like some do....
Anyway thats just me - great that they are cured and Im glad weve had this discussion if it has shed some light, Ill now look into fasting more comprehensively- thank you!!
15 minutes ago, Calcified said:
Why is fasting the cure? Why dont normal people need to fast? That's the question, what's been changed.
Is it growth hormone deficiency? Is that why we feel so old?
You took a super toxic drug. Fasting is one of the best ways to restore your body.
13 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:Or maybe they can finish off properly here on forum by telling their story before fucking off??
How many people come here all guns blazing only to disappear- no follow up or commitment to help others??
Ive been accused my myself of not caring about others -what a load of shit!!!!.....Id have the decency if cured to come back and share the story at least, not just disappear without a trace like some do....
Anyway thats just me - great that they are cured and Im glad weve had this discussion if it has shed some light, Ill now look into fasting more comprehensively- thank you!!
All of the people I listed all came back to the forum to say they are healed. Im just going by what Ive read over several years. Diet and fasting are two of the things that all people who have healed did. Either both or just one of them.
All good!!!
I got caught up in the derailment that often occurs on this forum - Im sorry I missed their stories.
Guys - If fasting/diet is the answer can we cease with derailing the subject as best as possible?( myself included )
So it would imply that youre getting enough B12 for example via diet and no need to askabout it or put up articlesas though its the cure to fix Tane issues yeah
It would be implied that all sorts of shit will be fixed as a result of fasting - eye floaters, thinning hair, thin skin, head tension, fatigue, unwanted body hair, too much sweat, no sweat, light sensitivity, cortisol levels and on and on.....
8 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:Or maybe they can finish off properly here on forum by telling their story before fucking off??
How many people come here all guns blazing only to disappear- no follow up or commitment to help others??
Ive been accused my myself of not caring about others -what a load of shit!!!!.....Id have the decency if cured to come back and share the story at least, not just disappear without a trace like some do....
Anyway thats just me - great that they are cured and Im glad weve had this discussion if it has shed some light, Ill now look into fasting more comprehensively- thank you!!
Does your kinesiologist have tests for growth hormone deficiency? Is this the cure?
I didnt say it was the cure for everyone and everything but you saying No amount of fasting or supplementing is going to bring back oil, make floaters disappear, make hair full again, correct balance issues etc etc etc. is completely false because people have cured those issues with diet and fasting. Im done with this conversation. This is why I hate this forum and also why annoyy finally left because he posted how he healed and no one wanted to believe diet had fixed him. Everyone is different though so not all diets work for everyone. I do AIP so I reduce the risk of mainly all food reactions.
Chris - dont be put off from from some healthy debating!!
If diet/fasting is indeed the answer and my comment/statement is completely ignorant andwrong then fuck I can live with that!!! Im not here for an ego trip, Im on this forum looking for cures.
Some of you guys know heaps more shitthan I do. Im happy to be proven wrong and get more people on the right path to being completely cured and so Iwont shy away from debating subjects if at the end of the day it helps. Iffasting works itll disprove any mindless scrutiny I might happen to throw at it...
Ive barely scratched the surface with fasting - you end up doing a few days of it when doing the liver/gallbladder cleanse.
Id like to learn more!!!
On 11/30/2018 at 12:32 AM, Charles133 said:Just an update on my end, I ended the fast I was on last time I was here after 7 days, then did another 5 day fast, then a 2 day fast, and was low carb inbetween fasts to stay in ketosis. Libido was low during the day, but had really strong morning wood EVERY morning if I had eaten the day before. Also Acne cleared up but no blood noses or anything like that, so I don't think it is like be on accutane again. Random muscle/jointpains have gone away, and I honestly don't think I've lost any strength since I hit the gym today after breaking my fast 2 days ago and could deadlift 140kg sets 5 then 3 then 3, like I could before my fasts, except I had less groin pain than before, and now I'm 95kg instead of 105kg. I still have a bad shoulder that I've been trying to rehab since forever, so I think fasting hasn't helped tendons/ligaments as much as its helped muscles and inflammation
Mentally has been weird. I'm feeling sharper since I broke my fast, but I always had pretty good energy during my fast and was always had good mood during my fast, but would be talking and sometimes forget names or wouldn't be able to find the word I was looking for while fasting. A little bit air headed.
On another note I was more motivated, usually I am reactive and and just float through life, but I was much more proactive which is nice.
Anyway, physically I feel the best I've felt for years
Heres a post from a charles133 back in November. Noticed he never came back to the forum. Could it be that hes living life because hes feeling great and all sides stayed away?
On 12/6/2013 at 7:47 PM, User116745 said:Yo what it do. I logged on here again. Some of you know me. Just wanted to post on how I healed my body. Fresh fruits and veggies. Sunlight. Really that simple. Accept nature and nature foods and it can heal you. Keep eating these fake foods out here and meats and you are gonna have a helluva time. Not replying to anything just making this post for anyone who will resonate with it. Much love nd peace
Here is also Conor Mcelvins last post on this forum. He posted in other posts about him doing fasting and thats when his hair started coming back and dryness went away.
On 2/6/2017 at 7:57 AM, Washer said:Okay, guys. I took Accuutane 20mg for 5 months back in January - June 2011 and have suffered numerous bad long-term side effects ever since.
The first thing I want to say is that STAY THE FUCK AWAY from all vitamin a supplements I CANNOT RUSH THIS ENOUGH! Also ALL omega 3, 6, 9 supplements should be avoided too also Krill oil. Ingesting these supplements could make your sides 100x worse short and even long-term. Vitamin D, E and K should be avoided too, but they are not as dangerous as vitamin a and fish oil in my opnion, BUT SHOULD STILL BE AVOIDED! And that has to be for the rest of your life ALSO if you think you are 100% "cured" or just manging your symptons so you don't pay attention to them in your daily life. I can't explain excatly why you should avoid these supplements right now, but please just do it.
Okay with that out of the world I can tell you what side effects I had (or still have, because they will come back if I stop doing what I do)
Horrible social anxiety
Depression
Emotional numbness (no feelings, motivation etc, very scary!)
Brain fog
Loss of ability to think logical and analyze (had to drop out of school for 2 years and give up on my dream education forever)
Fatigue (not that severe. I know a lot of you guys suffer from this one really bad)
Eyes EXTREMELY sensitive to sun
Skin sensitive to sun, burn really easily even though I'mmediterranean and never burned before accutane
Seborrheic dermatitis in and between my eyebrows and nose creases
Horrible dandruff
IBS-Constipation (already had mild IBS before starting, but accutane made it 10x worse!)
Joint pain (mostly in my knees, but again not that severe)
Mouth uclers and sensitive gums that bled everything I brushed^All these things was NOT problem BEFORE accutane! I know that 100%, For some reason I've never had an issues with dryness of skin, lips or eyes.. but our sides are all so different from another here on the forum.
But I am happy to say I've recovered from them all mainly because of Lugol's Iodine Jcrow brand (used other forms of iodine in the past, but I really prefer this one) I take 60mg daily (I use the 5% solution) I took 80mg daily for 2 years, but dropped back to 60mg because i wanted to save money and I found out I function just good on 60mg.
I would recommend starting on 6.25mg a day which is 1drop of the 5% solution and the ramp up the dosage as you want, but be sure to be on 50+mg after at least 60 days. You will first see the "full" results of what Iodine does to your body after 1 year on 50+mg (It took even longer for me and I was on 80mg daily), but you will notice the first benefits of Iodine within a couple of days. Just find the dose that works for you, but it takes time.
Also be sure to consume Doctors Best Magnesium GLYCINATE! (400-600mg daily), Natures Way Selenium (400mcg daily), Vitamin C as absorbic acid (3000mg daily), Folinic Acid NOT FOLIC ACID! (800-1200mcg daily), Methyl-B12 (>5mcg daily), ATP CoFactors (2x daily).
Also drink tsp UNREFINED CELTIC SEA SALT daily dissolved in water when on Iodine.
Other things that helped me have been; Source Essential Digestive Enzymes, Jarrow-Dophilus Probiotics, Marshmallow Root in pill form (amazing for ibs imo. Natures Way best brand), Slippery Elm powder (1 tablespoon dissolved in hot water to make as tea, drink 1x daily), L-Glutamine 100% powder (20mg morning, 20mg afternoon), couple of drops of 100% peppermint oil dissolved in water, Unfiltered Organic Apple cider vingear (everybody start drinking this daily) for IBS. Trial and error with a lot of this, but try the things. I really reccomend you all to start using digestive enzymes. Also when you take the Jarrow probiotics take them FIRST thing in the morning with a LOT of ice cold water (have lots of water in your fridge so it's always cold and ready) Take 5 pills a day and wait 45+ minutes to eat after taking them since digestive enzymes kills probiotics!
E45 shampoo, Apple cider vingear dissolved in spring water and a teaspoon of xylitol and left on affected areas for 10 minutes forseborrheic dermatitis. DO NOT USE ANY OILS ON SKIN OR IN HAIR IF YOU HAVE SEB DRM IT WILL MAKE IT WORSE LONG-TERM! I am 100% free fromseborrheic dermatitis to this day.
Brushing teeth with baking soda, 2 drops of oil of oregano, a bit of xylitol and 1 drop of iodine in the morning, brushing teeth with organic floruide free tea tree oil toothpaste in the evenings. Flossing 1x daily, mixing 1 teaspoon of pink himalayan sea salt crystals with hot water and rinse my mouth with the solution 2x daily. I also recommend oil pulling with coconut oil, but I dont have time for that right now in the mornings. Using Curaprox ultra soft toothbrush (switch to a new every 20 days) No uclers for years, bleeding gums 100% gone for years, teeth and gums so much better, teeth so much whiter and mouth much fresher. Mixing baking soda with water and rinsing your mouth with it is also recommended.
Eyes and skin was no longer sun sensitive after using Iodine daily for 8-9 months. Give it time.
Phenibut, L-Trytophan and Lithium Orotatehelped my mood and lifted my depression some what would reccomend it, but please get started on Iodine first. Don't play around with the 3 former too much.
Tried Cannabis in various forms for prolonged periods -honestly I was not impressed by the effects, but it could just be that the things I was able to aquire weren't that potent at all. Want to try it again.. sometime when i'm more financially secure and have a good chunk of money to throw around. Also want to Try LDN first.
Eat mostly plant based and organic with lots of vegetable/fruit juices, but treat yourself then and now if you know for sure that your body can handle it.
Also all of you guys in the US etc. get a quality water filter system installed please.
And everybody who feel like they have tried everything on earth including Iodine, 100% plant based diet, all nootropics and supplements GET ON LOW DOSENALTREXONE NOW. It seems like it's all the lost causes best shot by some miles. I will try and get on it too in the near future!
Here is Washers last post...I spoke with him over Facebook and he also did 1 48 hour fast every week for 2 years