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Im serious!!!!
I not taking the piss or beingsarcastic but merely backing up my point about trying to prevent derailment.
Your reposting of those whove fastedsuccessfully on previous page is excellent and much appreciated!!
Im not saying to anyone dont see a kinesiologist.Im not about to give up seeing mine BUT Ill be damn sure to ask him about fasting etc and will print off some of those posts so he gets an idea on what theyve done.
Sorry if you viewed as sarcasm- it was a quick post to get more people focused on fasting - to stay on topic!!
Appreciate it man. And Im not saying people shouldntdiscuss other alternatives to healing but yourcomment of fasting and dieting not working can lead people to never trying it. Ive also read people who did a fruit and vegtables diet for 2 years and never get any healing. I personally believe thats because we are all unique in what we are sensitive to. For example, Ive always been sensitive to certain fruits (cause joint pain) so I stay away from them.
10 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:Im serious!!!!
I not taking the piss or beingsarcastic but merely backing up my point about trying to prevent derailment.
Your reposting of those whove fastedsuccessfully on previous page is excellent and much appreciated!!
Im not saying to anyone dont see a kinesiologist.Im not about to give up seeing mine BUT Ill be damn sure to ask him about fasting etc and will print off some of those posts so he gets an idea on what theyve done.
Sorry if you viewed as sarcasm- it was a quick post to get more people focused on fasting - to stay on topic!!
Always positive!!
I thought he said he even had a Facebook page dedicated to helping victims - I havent gone looking for it though
He had some YouTube vids too. Very scientific minded and you got the impression he does his homework as there was plenty of depth in his posts.
then just dropped off the forum??
Didnt sign off with any post saying, thats it guys Im outta here - very strange I must say!!
There was anotherguy too but I cant exactly remember.... Mari something....
ill have to do some trawling to find his username
Yeah thats right, big on the liver research
I liked his posts, but again -comes on all guns blazing only to disappear off forum...WHY??
I assume there was no intentional final postOr did I miss it?
Its bullshit that people come on forum all guns blazing with their scientific studies and links to otherforums theyveset-up only to in the end have no follow through, no ability to go the distance - they just disappear without a trace.
Thats bullshit, I dont care what anyone says - its not helpful at all
I say this with the full respect of the hard work theyve put in, but please follow through and stick around to share the news if your research has led you to a cure.
10 hours ago, Chris16 said:Heres a post from a charles133 back in November. Noticed he never came back to the forum. Could it be that hes living life because hes feeling great and all sides stayed away?
Here is also Conor Mcelvins last post on this forum. He posted in other posts about him doing fasting and thats when his hair started coming back and dryness went away.
Here is Washers last post...I spoke with him over Facebook and he also did 1 48 hour fast every week for 2 years
can someone pls teach on how to fast? like you really didn't eat any food for 48hours? can i take some supplements that support liver detox while fasting?
what is the fastest way to fast out accutane in the body asap? i found these in internet. which one will be more effective?
- The 16/8 Method: Fast for 16 hours each day. ...
- The 5:2 Diet: Fast for 2 days per week. ...
- Eat-Stop-Eat: Do a 24-hour fast, once or twice a week. ...
- Alternate-Day Fasting: Fast every other day. ...
- The Warrior Diet: Fast during the day,eata huge meal at night.
and i found this link , i read the comments and this person say you have to fast for 30days for accutane.how do a person fast for 30days? he didn't share his methods cause he want business. How i wish people who knows are more willing to help than doing it for money.
Water fasting works because it quickly starts the depletion of vitamin A(accutane) from storage in liver and tissues. This is important, but after a short or long fast it is the importance of the refeed that out weighs the fasting time. Refeeding on foods that contain no vitamin A is vital, and healing will continue.
2 hours ago, bellei said:
can someone pls teach on how to fast? like you really didn't eat any food for 48hours? can i take some supplements that support liver detox while fasting?
what is the fastest way to fast out accutane in the body asap? i found these in internet. which one will be more effective?
- The 16/8 Method: Fast for 16 hours each day. ...
- The 5:2 Diet: Fast for 2 days per week. ...
- Eat-Stop-Eat: Do a 24-hour fast, once or twice a week. ...
- Alternate-Day Fasting: Fast every other day. ...
- The Warrior Diet: Fast during the day,eata huge meal at night.
and i found this link , i read the comments and this person say you have to fast for 30days for accutane.how do a person fast for 30days? he didn't share his methods cause he want business. How i wish people who knows are more willing to help than doing it for money.
So I just completed a 4 day fast and it was hard but also very beneficial. After day 1 I started getting joint pains (healing pains) in hands and knees. Was this the accutane being moved out of fat cells? I personally dont think so but it doesnt really matter. I think it was a healing reaction from my body finallyhavingthe energy (digestion takes alot of energy and causes inflammation) to heal those areas. I never eat breakfast anymore. So I usually get in a 16, 18 or 24 hour fast every day. I think short fasts are good but you also need to do some longer ones 4,5 or maybe more days.
Accutane is well knows for damaging stem cells in your body. Stem cells are what heals your body when damage occurs from for example Accutane. There is research that just came out that fasting regenerates stem cells in the intestines.
http://news.mit.edu/2018/fasting-boosts-stem-cells-regenerative-capacity-0503
Andwhat you eat after the fast is very important. Which is why I follow a AIP diet. If you eat stuff you are reacting too it will just undo any work you just did.
5 hours ago, bellei said:
can someone pls teach on how to fast? like you really didn't eat any food for 48hours? can i take some supplements that support liver detox while fasting?
what is the fastest way to fast out accutane in the body asap? i found these in internet. which one will be more effective?
- The 16/8 Method: Fast for 16 hours each day. ...
- The 5:2 Diet: Fast for 2 days per week. ...
- Eat-Stop-Eat: Do a 24-hour fast, once or twice a week. ...
- Alternate-Day Fasting: Fast every other day. ...
- The Warrior Diet: Fast during the day,eata huge meal at night.
and i found this link , i read the comments and this person say you have to fast for 30days for accutane.how do a person fast for 30days? he didn't share his methods cause he want business. How i wish people who knows are more willing to help than doing it for money.
And when I do fasting I mean only water and water only. I would not take any supplements when doing the fast.
Chris, can you please give us an idea of how to build up to a 4-5 day detox?
i assume you need to do the 2 day for what - 3 to 6 months before youd take on a longer detox??
Also, you say water only, is it your belief that doing a juice detox is a waste of time? ( no juice with any Vit A )
I get wicked headaches as it goes when detox even for 48 hrs - perhaps I need to take a aspirin or something next time
thanks
Fasting is by no means easy and Im not sure what the easiest way to get into it. Ive read online that you should do shorter ones before longer ones but it maybe easier to go for a longer one right from the get go. I did a 5 day fast like 6 months ago but really got nothing out of it. This time around I did it I could feel my body healing internally. Maybe it was because my diet was so good before the fast?
Im not sure really about the juice fasts.I believe water fasts are more powerful so if Im going to suffer im going to do water for the most benefit.
I would start by trying to do a 24 hour fast and then go from there. Do not take aspirin!!! Your gut is already damaged that you dont need that on top of it.
1 hour ago, TrueJustice said:Chris, can you please give us an idea of how to build up to a 4-5 day detox?
i assume you need to do the 2 day for what - 3 to 6 months before youd take on a longer detox??
Also, you say water only, is it your belief that doing a juice detox is a waste of time? ( no juice with any Vit A )
I get wicked headaches as it goes when detox even for 48 hrs - perhaps I need to take a aspirin or something next time
thanks
Thankyou
Also, your point about healing is noted!!
Its not detoxing per se thats happening but more healing of the Accutane damage - would you agree?
some detox might happen by default but its not the goal here correct?
I mean those whove successfully done these fasts surely dont have to restrict Vit A for the rest of their lives? - that would suggest theres still something underlying going on.....
I think its healing from the accutane damage but I could be wrong and its residue of the drug coming out of fat cells.
The people Ive chatted with who have healed dontrestrict vitamin A at all.
Heres the thing though, dont think that if you do 1 fast and nothing changes to give up. You need to get your diet down for awhile and then start some fasts. This is all my personally experience and from what people have told me.
33 minutes ago, Chris16 said:I think its healing from the accutane damage but I could be wrong and its residue of the drug. Either way Im feeling the benefits of the fast.
The people Ive chatted with who have healed do t restrict vitamin A at all.
Heres the thing though, dont think that if you do 1 fast and nothing changes to give up. You need to get your diet down for awhile and then start through in some fasts. This is all my personally experience and from what people have told me.
Yeah thats cool, I dont think anyone should hang shit on someone if it doesnt happen to work for them,I certainly wouldnt do that. I take your point about giving it a good go too - not just one or two fasts and thats it.
I think the encouraging thing in all this is numbers of those whove had success - that must say something about the benefits of fasting.
Im building my knowledge first though, be good to hear back from those who spoke to that doctor who helps with Vit A detox specifically- hopefully they can at least give us a response on the conversations theyve had with him - how the procedure works and what he might of offered in way of diet etc
Update:
Guys I found out that fats make my stomach cramp and makes me dizzy.
This fasting is really helping find out which foods are triggering me.
My dizziness is going away very slowly and I'm able focus and see a bit more clearly.
But I still recommend seeing a professional before doing diet changes.
10 hours ago, Gatu77777 said:Guys I found out that fats make my stomach cramp and makes me dizzy.
Everything a person eats, what they dont eat, even exercise,can affect the microbiome. This in turn might affect much more.You see ties with what I recently mentioned on here with sulfur metabolism.
Gut Bacteria and Hydrogen Sulfide: The New Old Players in Circulatory System Homeostasis
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6273628/
Accumulating evidence suggests that gut bacteria play a role in homeostasis of the circulatory system in mammals.
First, gut bacteria may affect the nervous control of the circulatory system via the sensory fibres of the enteric nervous system. Second, gut bacteria-derived metabolites may cross the gut-blood barrier and target blood vessels, the heart and other organs involved in the regulation of the circulatory system.
Role of Endogenous Sulfur Dioxide in Regulating Vascular Structural Remodeling in Hypertension
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/omcl/2016/4529060/
Endogenous SO2is produced during metabolism of sulfur-containing amino acids
The bowel and beyond: the enteric nervous system in neurological disorders
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5005185/