24 minutes ago, idontknow1993 said:

Finally I'm back in life. I'm feeling unbeleavble today. My dick is full of blood all day long and I feel my libido again. I really hope it stays that way forever. I can archieve erection just by thinking of sex for the first time in 7 years. I dont know what the fuck is going on but I know that I dont care because I feel strong. Now please pray for me that it keeps working. Will keep you updated.

Wow!! What exactly were all your sides from tane???

6 minutes ago, Colinboko said:

31 minutes ago, idontknow1993 said:

Finally I'm back in life. I'm feeling unbeleavble today. My dick is full of blood all day long and I feel my libido again. I really hope it stays that way forever. I can archieve erection just by thinking of sex for the first time in 7 years. I dont know what the fuck is going on but I know that I dont care because I feel strong. Now please pray for me that it keeps working. Will keep you updated.

Wow!! What exactly were all your sides from tane???

First 2 years only sexual sides like ED low libido gyno than with time more mental and physical changes . More body fat, low back pain, muscel weakness, gastritis, fatigue, depression, dark cycles under eyes , bad sleep and some more

4 hours ago, Togg said:

Here. Here is a great post that explains accutanes connection to 5 alpha reductase enzyme inhibition.
I feel like this post is great evidence that the root of our problems are related to 5ar inhibition.
I dont know if anyone knows for sure if we need to block or promote DHT or if that is the root of our problems, but what I have been doing by eating avocados is basically blocking it. Blocking it again like when we were on accutane... Yup. And i don't like the new smell. But we'll, i feel like its the least of our problems

You say block DHT again like when we were on tane.

When I look up DHT Blocker supplements many say "Balances Hormones" "Great for skin"

I mean aren't our hormones a little out of whack post tane or completely out of whack post tane!!?

I need to read up more on this DHT, if tane blocked them and we feel fucked how would blocking them again work?

Id of thought we need to do the opposite....

5 hours ago, Togg said:

Here. Here is a great post that explains accutanes connection to 5 alpha reductase enzyme inhibition.
I feel like this post is great evidence that the root of our problems are related to 5ar inhibition.
I dont know if anyone knows for sure if we need to block or promote DHT or if that is the root of our problems, but what I have been doing by eating avocados is basically blocking it. Blocking it again like when we were on accutane... Yup. And i don't like the new smell. But we'll, i feel like its the least of our problems

Do two negatives equal a positive? Have PFS sufferers gone back on finasteride to try to cure their sides?
Are you saying the body gets used to a change and then it gets deprived of it and thats when the sides start?
There are cases though where the sides start while on the drug and then worsen after stopping.
That post was 7 years ago, what was the conclusion?
I just dont know, but I think this is playing with fire. You might trigger something you cant come back from.

Im not talking about avocados though, its supposedly one of the healthiest foods on the planet.
What happens with some with PFS, PRS, Pssd some think the sides might be permanent, so having thought to reinduce this seems very risky.
Not only that, I believe there might be something else going on here.

Some Prostate Drugs May Do Harm

THURSDAY, June 29, 2017 -- Popular hormone-based drugs for treating anenlarged prostatecould increase men's risk of type 2 diabetes, heart disease or stroke, a new study suggests.
Our small study suggests there are really adverse effects on metabolic function from these drugs that has not been reported previously," said lead researcher Abdulmaged Traish. He is a professor of urology with the Boston University School of Medicine.

On sexual sides, average recovery time was 4 years. If your lucky.

In conclusion, among men with 5-RI exposure, duration of 5-RI exposure was a more accurate predictor of PED than all other assessed risk factors except prostate disease and prostate surgery. Among young men with 5-RI exposure, duration of 5-RI exposure was a more accurate predictor of PED than all other assessed risk factors. For each 108 young men exposed for >205 days to the finasteride dose typically used for androgenic alopecia (1.25 mg/day), one additional young man experienced PED when compared to those men with shorter exposure. The median duration of PED in young men was 1,534 days. We expect that our finding of an association between debilitating sexual dysfunction and exposure to finasteride or dutasteride will be of particular interest to prescribers and patients considering medical management of androgenic alopecia or symptomatic treatment of prostatic hyperplasia.

52 minutes ago, guitarman01 said:

Do two negatives equal a positive? Have PFS sufferers gone back on finasteride to try to cure their sides?
Are you saying the body gets used to a change and then it gets deprived of it and thats when the sides start?
There are cases though where the sides start while on the drug and then worsen after stopping.
That post was 7 years ago, what was the conclusion?
I just dont know, but I think this is playing with fire. You might trigger something you cant come back from.

Im not talking about avocados though, its supposedly one of the healthiest foods on the planet.
What happens with some with PFS, PRS, Pssd some think the sides might be permanent, so having thought to reinduce this seems very risky.
Not only that, I believe there might be something else going on here.

Some Prostate Drugs May Do Harm

THURSDAY, June 29, 2017 -- Popular hormone-based drugs for treating anenlarged prostatecould increase men's risk of type 2 diabetes, heart disease or stroke, a new study suggests.
Our small study suggests there are really adverse effects on metabolic function from these drugs that has not been reported previously," said lead researcher Abdulmaged Traish. He is a professor of urology with the Boston University School of Medicine.

On sexual sides, average recovery time was 4 years. If your lucky.

PeerJ. 2017; 5: e3020.

Published online 2017 Mar 9.doi:10.7717/peerj.3020

In conclusion, among men with 5-RI exposure, duration of 5-RI exposure was a more accurate predictor of PED than all other assessed risk factors except prostate disease and prostate surgery. Among young men with 5-RI exposure, duration of 5-RI exposure was a more accurate predictor of PED than all other assessed risk factors. For each 108 young men exposed for >205 days to the finasteride dose typically used for androgenic alopecia (1.25 mg/day), one additional young man experienced PED when compared to those men with shorter exposure. The median duration of PED in young men was 1,534 days. We expect that our finding of an association between debilitating sexual dysfunction and exposure to finasteride or dutasteride will be of particular interest to prescribers and patients considering medical management of androgenic alopecia or symptomatic treatment of prostatic hyperplasia.

Exposed for greater than 205 days..?

I was exposed to tane for like 50 days!

So anyone try saw Palmetto after tan exposure , I did years ago and I crashed I wouldn't recommend it .

http://www.whale.to/a/lanka.html

2 hours ago, Gladiatoro said:

So anyone try saw Palmetto after tan exposure , I did years ago and I crashed I wouldn't recommend it .

I raised the exact issue 2 days ago when seeing Naturopath, she was adamant when it comes to herbal formulas if the body doesn't need it, it won't do any harm, you'll just pass it out.

This is with herbal solutions can't speak for supplements or drugs!!

Interesting that a naturopath said that.

We need to remember that Finasteride and Isoretinoin are two different drugs. The theory that both of our side effects are related to DHT is just that, a theory.

With Fin, its well known how it works, having one known mechanism of action.

With Tane, it is far more complex. I haven't found a study demonstrating a depression of serum DHT levels in males. There was one that mentioned skin DHT ? Even if this was shown, we don't know if it persists after ceasing, or if its responsible for our sides (remember, Tane depresses a lot of pituitary hormones)

Its important to at least get your DHT levelstested before you start manipulating it.

On a personal note my DHT levels were mid range.

DHT - Dihydrotestosterone

I've looked up DHT Blocker supplements that say "Hormone Balancing"

How can that possibly happen when you're blocking the hormone that is testosterone- I can't fathom how you can balance something by blocking the very thing you're trying to balance....

Someone shed some light pls???

9 hours ago, Colinboko said:

We want to block it...?

Why?

6 hours ago, TrueJustice said:

You say block DHT again like when we were on tane.

When I look up DHT Blocker supplements many say "Balances Hormones" "Great for skin"

I mean aren't our hormones a little out of whack post tane or completely out of whack post tane!!?

I need to read up more on this DHT, if tane blocked them and we feel fucked how would blocking them again work?

Id of thought we need to do the opposite....

5 hours ago, guitarman01 said:

Do two negatives equal a positive? Have PFS sufferers gone back on finasteride to try to cure their sides?
Are you saying the body gets used to a change and then it gets deprived of it and thats when the sides start?
There are cases though where the sides start while on the drug and then worsen after stopping.
That post was 7 years ago, what was the conclusion?
I just dont know, but I think this is playing with fire. You might trigger something you cant come back from.

Im not talking about avocados though, its supposedly one of the healthiest foods on the planet.
What happens with some with PFS, PRS, Pssd some think the sides might be permanent, so having thought to reinduce this seems very risky.
Not only that, I believe there might be something else going on here.

1 hour ago, mikez said:

Interesting that a naturopath said that.

We need to remember that Finasteride and Isoretinoin are two different drugs. The theory that both of our side effects are related to DHT is just that, a theory.

With Fin, its well known how it works, having one known mechanism of action.

With Tane, it is far more complex. I haven't found a study demonstrating a depression of serum DHT levels in males. There was one that mentioned skin DHT ? Even if this was shown, we don't know if it persists after ceasing, or if its responsible for our sides (remember, Tane depresses a lot of pituitary hormones)

Its important to at least get your DHT levelstested before you start manipulating it.

On a personal note my DHT levels were mid range.

So, let me expand some on my thinking.

I am not worried so much about DHT.

I am worried about 5ar inhibitors.

Saw Palmetto, Finasteride, Dutasteride, and Accutane are all 5ar inhibitors.

Most people do not experience any or little side effects from these 5ar inhibitors. They go through there course of accutane (having slight hormonal changes while on the course because of the 5ar's), and upon discontinuation return to normal.

However, some unlucky few (us), experience extreme side effects while on these inhibitors that can worsen upon discontinuation.

Each of these drugs are unique and may cause other side effects through other mechanisms, but it is no coincidence that users of these drugs have side effect profiles nearly exactly the same.

The one mechanism known of each of these drugs is 5ar enzyme inhibition. Again, this is no coincidence, this is strong evidence 5ar enzyme inhibitors are to blame for a lot of what has happened to us.

Something has occurred to us while on the drug and after discontinuation that has messed up our neurosteroid or hormonal or other such chemical functions. I am not claiming to know what it is, the pfs foundation is probably the closest organization to finding this out.

However, I have read dozens of recovery stories from accutane users, finasteride users, saw palmetto, and etc, claiming to have recovered one hundred percent. Some how it is possible to recover from the dysfunction brought on by these 5ar inhibitors.

And then, interestingly, I discovered many people have found symptom relief or fully recovered by going back on a 5ar inhibitor. Sometimes even the same drug that gave them such bad side effects in the first place. (I will dig up my sources on this soon)

Hence, I decided I would do the same. Except low and behold, I found out that a naturally occurring phytosterol, a compound found in tones of plant foods, a compound that every person eats in their diet, can be a potent 5ar inhibitor if consumed in higher amounts. Even more, one of the best ways to consume high amounts of beta-sitosterol through diet is by eating avocados, and as guitarman has said, it is supposedly one of the healthiest foods around.

My thoughts are that, it is unlikely that consuming a couple avocados a day is going to be bad for me. This is because, if it were so that avocados, or any diet high in beta-sitosterol, can cause side effects like what we are experiencing, our side effects could be occurring to countless vegans, health conscious vegetable juicers, and just about anyone cooking with hemp oil. And I just don't see evidence of that.

My thoughts are that, perhaps the mechanism through which beta-sitosterol works to inhibit 5ar, are well tolerated by the body. Perhaps by forcing our bodies back on a 5ar inhibitor, but a very natural 5ar inhibitor that our bodies may know how to 'work with better', our bodies can recover into a more normal state.

And the reason why I believe it may be the case that this 'natural' 5ar inhibition can help us recover, is that there are many people who claim to recover in part through diet. Raw plant I have heard, paleo, vegan, all diets high in fruits and vegetables containing large amounts of bioavailable beta-sitosterol. (will site sources but off of top of my head, Connor McElvain, Annoy, Cdsnuts, tons really)

And again like I said above, there are accutane users who claim to have recovered by going on Finasteride. There are Finasteride users who have claimed to recover by going back on Fin and tapering off. (Will definitely site sources on this one)

Another on is that those that have done RSO treatment, which often lead to at least partial recovery, were also consuming lare amounts of beta-sitosterol. (Source Soon)

I myself have experienced relief to some extend to near all of my symptoms after one month of daily avocado consumption.

So what do ya think? The more I think about it the more I find myself dead set that this is a key to the puzzle. Just by eating a couple fucking avocados a day.

19 minutes ago, Togg said:

So, let me expand some on my thinking.

I am not worried so much about DHT.

I am worried about 5ar inhibitors.

Saw Palmetto, Finasteride, Dutasteride, and Accutane are all 5ar inhibitors.

Most people do not experience any or little side effects from these 5ar inhibitors. They go through there course of accutane (having slight hormonal changes while on the course because of the 5ar's), and upon discontinuation return to normal.

However, some unlucky few (us), experience extreme side effects while on these inhibitors that can worsen upon discontinuation.

Each of these drugs are unique and may cause other side effects through other mechanisms, but it is no coincidence that users of these drugs have side effect profiles nearly exactly the same.

The one mechanism known of each of these drugs is 5ar enzyme inhibition. Again, this is no coincidence, this is strong evidence 5ar enzyme inhibitors are to blame for a lot of what has happened to us.

Something has occurred to us while on the drug and after discontinuation that has messed up our neurosteroid or hormonal or other such chemical functions. I am not claiming to know what it is, the pfs foundation is probably the closest organization to finding this out.

However, I have read dozens of recovery stories from accutane users, finasteride users, saw palmetto, and etc, claiming to have recovered one hundred percent. Some how it is possible to recover from the dysfunction brought on by these 5ar inhibitors.

And then, interestingly, I discovered many people have found symptom relief or fully recovered by going back on a 5ar inhibitor. Sometimes even the same drug that gave them such bad side effects in the first place. (I will dig up my sources on this soon)

Hence, I decided I would do the same. Except low and behold, I found out that a naturally occurring phytosterol, a compound found in tones of plant foods, a compound that every person eats in their diet, can be a potent 5ar inhibitor if consumed in higher amounts. Even more, one of the best ways to consume high amounts of beta-sitosterol through diet is by eating avocados, and as guitarman has said, it is supposedly one of the healthiest foods around.

My thoughts are that, it is unlikely that consuming a couple avocados a day is going to be bad for me. This is because, if it were so that avocados, or any diet high in beta-sitosterol, can cause side effects like what we are experiencing, our side effects could be occurring to countless vegans, health conscious vegetable juicers, and just about anyone cooking with hemp oil. And I just don't see evidence of that.

My thoughts are that, perhaps the mechanism through which beta-sitosterol works to inhibit 5ar, are well tolerated by the body. Perhaps by forcing our bodies back on a 5ar inhibitor, but a very natural 5ar inhibitor that our bodies may know how to 'work with better', our bodies can recover into a more normal state.

And the reason why I believe it may be the case that this 'natural' 5ar inhibition can help us recover, is that there are many people who claim to recover in part through diet. Raw plant I have heard, paleo, vegan, all diets high in fruits and vegetables containing large amounts of bioavailable beta-sitosterol. (will site sources but off of top of my head, Connor McElvain, Annoy, Cdsnuts, tons really)

And again like I said above, there are accutane users who claim to have recovered by going on Finasteride. There are Finasteride users who have claimed to recover by going back on Fin and tapering off. (Will definitely site sources on this one)

Another on is that those that have done RSO treatment, which often lead to at least partial recovery, were also consuming lare amounts of beta-sitosterol. (Source Soon)

I myself have experienced relief to some extend to near all of my symptoms after one month of daily avocado consumption.

So what do ya think? The more I think about it the more I find myself dead set that this is a key to the puzzle. Just by eating a couple fucking avocados a day.

Thx for info!!

When i look up 5 ar inhibitors it's main role is with DHT is it not??

Thats what it does yeah, we're talking about inhibiting DHT?

Thats's what it's telling me when I google it?

6 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:

Thx for info!!

When i look up 5 ar inhibitors it's main role is with DHT is it not??

Thats what it does yeah, we're talking about inhibiting DHT?

Thats's what it's telling me when I google it?

I believe that it is what it has been most researched for, however, 5ar inhibitors do much more than just block the conversion of testosterone to dht. What I mean is that alpha reductase enzyme are involved with many other neurosteroids/hormones in the body, by inhibiting 5ar enzyme there are countless (for me anyway) downstream effects on other hormones/neurosteroids. dht is just one of them.

Oh ok, thx for explaining, that's not common info when I google it.

You could very well be on to something with this theory.

Good thing I like avocados, I do know they are good for lowering cholesterol amongst other things and many of us have issues in that dept....let's continue to look into it.

If you have blocked receptor by accutane and take another drug that want to block that same receptors maybe the new ones repress the old. So you have still blocked receptors but your body tolerate it better. If I didnt took accutane but Propecia maybe my sides would disappear after treatment like it should be. So basically they both fight for the receptor and after finasteride take it over you stop taking it. I had no improvement while I took it but I'm now 3 days of and I feel great. Thats how I explain it to myself.

56 minutes ago, idontknow1993 said:

If you have blocked receptor by accutane and take another drug that want to block that same receptors maybe the new ones repress the old. So you have still blocked receptors but your body tolerate it better. If I didnt took accutane but Propecia maybe my sides would disappear after treatment like it should be. So basically they both fight for the receptor and after finasteride take it over you stop taking it. I had no improvement while I took it but I'm now 3 days of and I feel great. Thats how I explain it to myself.

Did you try experimenting with a DHT Blocker supplement first?

Im assuming you did and it didn't do anything....after that you went for something heavier.

17 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:

Did you try experimenting with a DHT Blocker supplement first?

Im assuming you did and it didn't do anything....after that you went for something heavier.

I didn't and I don't think natural methods will cure you to be honest. Accutane is very powerful so in my opinion you need something more powerful to get an effect. I dont want so say you dont can get improvement natural ways. I talked to kevin pezzi and he told me about fava beans and green tea. There are some other natural things you can try of course. I was in a state where I had nothing to loose and didn't want to spend more time on soft ways that don't do anything for me.

19 minutes ago, idontknow1993 said:

51 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:

Did you try experimenting with a DHT Blocker supplement first?

Im assuming you did and it didn't do anything....after that you went for something heavier.

I didn't and I don't think natural methods will cure you to be honest. Accutane is very powerful so in my opinion you need something more powerful to get an effect. I dont want so say you dont can get improvement natural ways. I talked to kevin pezzi and he told me about fava beans and green tea. There are some other natural things you can try of course. I was in a state where I had nothing to loose and didn't want to spend more time on soft ways that don't do anything for me.

Yeah I thought so, I mean supplements will give you some relief but you're right, something stronger is needed....as we all know tane was one powerful fucking drug.

I mean if I went and tried a DHT blocker and it cured me I think I'd shoot myself for the stupidity of it all after 20 years!

Keep us updated on how you continue to feel..

Whale.to very informative we really do live in a sea of lies.

On 10/11/2017 at 1:27 AM, TrueJustice said:

Yeah I worry about what I may pass on as a result of tane.

Plus there's no way I'm bringing people into the world who might have to go through this bullshit- it's unacceptable.

The amount of corruption and bullshit must end, I mean these people who make isotretinoin need to fuck right off, they're not my people, it's not how I act or treat people so why should any of us have to be forced upon these pricks?

Thats almost a question for God - send forth better humans so others don't end up caught up in such bullshit - that's how strong I feel about it, this extends way beyond any monetary compensation or lawyers etc etc....like I say the people who work for Roche arent my people - they need to be dealt with!!!

I'm happy to be corrected here but go and poison people then hide behind the fucken walls - where's the responsibility??

You can kind of gather I might be over the corruption:)

Just saying it how I feel about it all!!!

Don't be daft - you haven't got HIV - I've had a kid and he's the healthiest baby you could ask for.

Accutane SUCKS! I am left a SICK person after it despite all of the farm food I've turned too, I still feel very damaged from 80mg of accutane @ 6 months... curse the summer june 2009. thank god for cannibis guns and god. anybody that comes to my farm gets to deal with the crazy guy who took acutane who will question the hell out of any law enforcement. this is prision planet if you dont believe it go take accutane (dont).... god bless you.

by the way i have seen more decline in my general health sicne i stopped taking it. can only imagine in another 10 years how bad my back will hurt after a simple 10 minute sit at the computer its shot. so many side effects so much lost time.. so much LOST LIFE. might as well have shot myself before i ever took it. FUCK ACCUTANE fuck the gmos

PS: dont eat any processed foods (fake foods) or any processed foods at all for that matter. eat garlic to ward off candita or parasites ... 0 processed sugar... unlimited veggies and plenty of potatos to keep you happy... again ....... 0 processed sugar will help with day to day fatigue.

14 hours ago, TrueJustice said:

I raised the exact issue 2 days ago when seeing Naturopath, she was adamant when it comes to herbal formulas if the body doesn't need it, it won't do any harm, you'll just pass it out.

Yikes, your naturopath was oversimplifying things greatly. . .
The devil is in the details, not whether a substance can be broadly categorized as an herb or drug. Just like man-made drugs, herbs have a therapeutic dose, a toxic dose, and an LD50. Many herbs have similar mechanisms of action as man-made drugs: They can be SSRIs, 5-alpha reductase inhibitors, NDMA antagonists, dopamine reuptake inhibitors, opioid agonists, etc. They can also be toxic to various organs depending on the dose or genetic susceptibilities.

People have crashed from saw palmetto (sp?). People have had severe hyperthyroid adverse reactions to an herb I find beneficial: Ashwagandha. Unfortunately, the body does not always simply wash out herbs it doesn't need. People like to romanticize substances that come from nature. But a drug is a drug. Severe reactions can happen from herbs because your body doesn't care where a substance comes from; it cares about what receptors it binds to and how it is metabolized.

Caffeine is intended as a pesticide by the plant that produces it. Sounds like the last thing you would want to ingest, but research shows immense health benefits from moderate amounts. On the other hand we have Accutane, a substance naturally occurring in the body. Who would have thought ingesting that could bring such harm?

My point is that it's important people understand the risks, the science, and proper dose of whatever they take. This is equally important for herbs as it is man-made drugs. And yeah, there are many man-made drugs I wouldn't take at any dose for $1 million, but there are also some herbs I am weary of as well!

4 hours ago, Justdry said:

On 2017-10-10 at 5:27 PM, TrueJustice said:

Yeah I worry about what I may pass on as a result of tane.

Plus there's no way I'm bringing people into the world who might have to go through this bullshit- it's unacceptable.

The amount of corruption and bullshit must end, I mean these people who make isotretinoin need to fuck right off, they're not my people, it's not how I act or treat people so why should any of us have to be forced upon these pricks?

Thats almost a question for God - send forth better humans so others don't end up caught up in such bullshit - that's how strong I feel about it, this extends way beyond any monetary compensation or lawyers etc etc....like I say the people who work for Roche arent my people - they need to be dealt with!!!

I'm happy to be corrected here but go and poison people then hide behind the fucken walls - where's the responsibility??

You can kind of gather I might be over the corruption:)

Just saying it how I feel about it all!!!

Don't be daft - you haven't got HIV - I've had a kid and he's the healthiest baby you could ask for.

Do you believe in Santa Claus too lol.

6 hours ago, ACCUiTy_drANE said:

Yikes, your naturopath was oversimplifying things greatly. . .
The devil is in the details, not whether a substance can be broadly categorized as an herb or drug. Just like man-made drugs, herbs have a therapeutic dose, a toxic dose, and an LD50. Many herbs have similar mechanisms of action as man-made drugs: They can be SSRIs, 5-alpha reductase inhibitors, NDMA antagonists, dopamine reuptake inhibitors, opioid agonists, etc. They can also be toxic to various organs depending on the dose or genetic susceptibilities.

People have crashed from saw palmetto (sp?). People have had severe hyperthyroid adverse reactions to an herb I find beneficial: Ashwagandha. Unfortunately, the body does not always simply wash out herbs it doesn't need. People like to romanticize substances that come from nature. But a drug is a drug. Severe reactions can happen from herbs because your body doesn't care where a substance comes from; it cares about what receptors it binds to and how it is metabolized.

Caffeine is intended as a pesticide by the plant that produces it. Sounds like the last thing you would want to ingest, but research shows immense health benefits from moderate amounts. On the other hand we have Accutane, a substance naturally occurring in the body. Who would have thought ingesting that could bring such harm?

My point is that it's important people understand the risks, the science, and proper dose of whatever they take. This is equally important for herbs as it is man-made drugs. And yeah, there are many man-made drugs I wouldn't take at any dose for $1 million, but there are also some herbs I am weary of as well!

Isotretinoin is found in the body YES in minuscule amounts not in mega doses for months BIG difference.

Its like saying whiskey is safe sure but not a large bottle in one night get it.

3 hours ago, alanman said:

Accutane SUCKS! I am left a SICK person after it despite all of the farm food I've turned too, I still feel very damaged from 80mg of accutane @ 6 months... curse the summer june 2009. thank god for cannibis guns and god. anybody that comes to my farm gets to deal with the crazy guy who took acutane who will question the hell out of any law enforcement. this is prision planet if you dont believe it go take accutane (dont).... god bless you.

by the way i have seen more decline in my general health sicne i stopped taking it. can only imagine in another 10 years how bad my back will hurt after a simple 10 minute sit at the computer its shot. so many side effects so much lost time.. so much LOST LIFE. might as well have shot myself before i ever took it. FUCK ACCUTANE fuck the gmos

PS: dont eat any processed foods (fake foods) or any processed foods at all for that matter. eat garlic to ward off candita or parasites ... 0 processed sugar... unlimited veggies and plenty of potatos to keep you happy... again ....... 0 processed sugar will help with day to day fatigue.

Are you alanc from the all things male forums?