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Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

 
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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 05/31/2012 7:53 am

Healthy fats not necessary. Carbs and micronutrients can replace. Haven't eaten fat for a year probly.

 

Three bites of octopus sashimi, plain, almost ruined my streak. I think cooking makes food easier to digest. Stands to reason, chemically.

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(@and1)

Posted : 05/31/2012 8:00 am

Well, I eat a gluten free diet and I do better when avoiding starchy foods (carbs). Carbs plug my system and most of them lack or don't have any nutrients. I eat gluten free oats, buckwheat, corn and potatos every other day, but prefer to get my energy from other food sources for instance through fats, which have a much higher energy density. Our brains consist mainly of fat and water, if you don't get enough fat you will drain your brain long-term...

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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 05/31/2012 11:04 am

You should stop eating corn. Potatoes are pretty safe, but white rice is safest. The only person I've ever found who legitimately shouldn't eat rice had advanced Chrohn's and a hole in her intestine. And of course some are allergic.

 

If you're eating carbs every other day, you're not in ketosis, period.

 

I'm not against ketosis, but I think it's a greater digestive challenge that not everyone can handle.

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(@edikk)

Posted : 05/31/2012 1:41 pm

I've read retinoic acid helps increase vit A receptors. Anyone else can dig up anything on that?

And for those that are interested, an update on myself. Still on the probiotics, but nothing positive to report on that front. Its still somewhat early to judge though, I've only done 3 months. Tried a liver cleansing supplement (Heppel N) my digestive doc recomended. I think it helped because I can actually sleep for 8 hours (not always [Edited image out] ) and function normally. I also think the supps I ordered from the ED site are helping somewhat ( Been using for about 2 weeks) . But like the guy told me, its also for the long run ( at least 2-3 monts), so its also realy early to tell. I've been working for the last several days to make enough money for another 2 month supply of supplements and a 10-time visit to my ostheopath. GOnna need another 2 weeks. Slept 3-4 hours before 1 day, 5 before 2, before 3. Need to sleep more today. Not easy considering my problems, but they also pay me on the spot, so its worth it. Dieting is hard. To many temptations, but Ill keep trying to convert myself to more healthy food. I think my problems are making me to irritable and less prone to patience. THis might take time. Trying to exercise everyday, even on work days. The fact that all these treatments are for long-term and their positive effects takes time to bare fruit irritates me, cause I want to see some progress. But I must be patient and continue, since there is no going back, only a start-over. Which I dont want.

Dont give up guys. I think were close to breaking the mold. We found a lot of interesting information and strategies. But some people need to do more than others. Not fair, but lifes a skank. If she loves you, you're lucky. If not, you gotta fight long and painfully until she decides thats its simpler to accept. ))) I dream of the day I can escape Hells' Gate. And I will.

Well, stay positive.

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(@indigorush)

Posted : 05/31/2012 5:02 pm

Hi Guys,

 

Probably too soon to say, but there is a chance that my hair is growing back... a little.

I was checking out my hairline, at the front, and there seems to be some shorter hairs I'd not noticed before.

I started taking 5000mcg Biotin a couple of weeks ago.

I could be wrong, so don't get too excited, but I'll mention if anything comes of it.

Would be delightful to have something good to speak of!

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(@and1)

Posted : 05/31/2012 5:05 pm

You should stop eating corn. Potatoes are pretty safe, but white rice is safest. The only person I've ever found who legitimately shouldn't eat rice had advanced Chrohn's and a hole in her intestine. And of course some are allergic.

 

If you're eating carbs every other day, you're not in ketosis, period.

 

I'm not against ketosis, but I think it's a greater digestive challenge that not everyone can handle.

 

 

you are absolutely right! Right now I am not following a strict ketogenic diet, but I have in the past and it helps your recovery from exercise as well as put on muscle. Right now I don't eat carbs three out of seven days a week. For some people it seems hard at first glance to follow such a diet, but think about this. Consume a small pack of pistachios (200 g) and you already got 1200 kcal, then eat an avocado (100 g = 700 kcal) later that day, put a little more olive oil on your salat than usual and consume lots of protein which is calory-heavy as well and you have no trouble getting through the day and putting on mass.

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(@oli-girl)

Posted : 05/31/2012 9:30 pm

Hi Guys,

 

Probably too soon to say, but there is a chance that my hair is growing back... a little.

I was checking out my hairline, at the front, and there seems to be some shorter hairs I'd not noticed before.

I started taking 5000mcg Biotin a couple of weeks ago.

I could be wrong, so don't get too excited, but I'll mention if anything comes of it.

Would be delightful to have something good to speak of!

 

 

Good To Hear Indigo! I have to say that for me Biotin helped and well it is know that people with thyroid issues take biotin to help with hair & nails, not to mention there are some studies that show accutane may deplete this Not saying, but some in the accutane population have had some sucess!

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(@oli-girl)

Posted : 05/31/2012 9:52 pm

On 5/31/2012 at 8:16 PM, Believe said:

You guys have to remember that whatever diet you are on, you gotta eat your healthy fats otherwise you will sooner or later become a nervous wreck. For a limited period of time you can do well on 80/10/10, especially when you are doing detox such a diet is recommended, but in my opinion it is not suited for your everyday life. I have tried a lot from juice fasting (2 months) to raw foods (70-80% for about 6 months) to veganism (little over half a year). I believe it has all helped me in my recovery, whereas I had a really hard time on the vegan diet. Nowadays I stick pretty much to a ketogenic diet. I have mentioned it before. Once you have done enough detox or once it is time for your body recuperate from detox and to put on some muscle I wold recommend it.

http://en.wikipedia..../Ketogenic_diet

Everybody is different. What works for one person may not work for the next, you gotta try yourself!!

I have to agree with your last statement! I believe it was you that asked about IGA testing????? Well I went and looked back through my med records and I have had a lot of labs/urine/fecal and scans my friend in the last 4 years.

I was tested for Celiac and had a IGA antibody and Immunoglobulin test and both came normal this was in 2009. However, my Rhuem did tell me that with sjrogrens & thyroid and other autoimmune conditons such as my now type 1 diabetes people tend to be Gluten Sensitive. I know that a lot of suffers who don't have anything show up on tests have gone gluten free with sucess.

I like you do not digest starchy foods very well. However, I did try the Paleo diet, but I believe that is more benifical for thoose with type 2 as I became anorexia looking and lost a lot of muscle. So, I bake 1 a week gluten free bread, or such and eat a small amt every other day and am fine, but if I was to eat a piece of regular bread I would suffer for days.

In essence we all are suffering, some have answers to thier issues, some do not, we all suffer similar problems, Some of us diffrent issue, but on the other hand what works for 1 may not work for the other.

I don't know I feel it is like having a full time job keeping my side effects and problems under control everyday [Edited image out] , I swear all the crazy autoimmune shit I came down with right after accutane I sometimes wonder how I keep going, but I do!

I have to say it folks, if you test postive for something being holistic and exercise is great and works wonder, I know alot of us don't want meds, but sometimes you have to succumb. I.E. thyroid etc.... Even if you believe this crap is still in your system, the damage is already done.

Personally I think I had in the begining a very highly dangerous delayed hypersenstivity disorder from Accutane, in which lowered my immune system and has made me pron to theese lovely autoimmune disorders etc.. On the outside to a stranger I look healthy as can be on the inside though my body is shit!

Believe- If there is anyother test you wondering about just ask as I probably had it done lol [Edited image out]

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Posted : 05/31/2012 10:49 pm

Wish I could help, humanstate.

 

SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:

 

9 day in a row - COMPLETED!

 

I am the rock.

 

Details: 2 of the days semi-sucked due to eating 3 bites of octopus sashimi, but I held the Circadian curve with the regimin, stayed productive throughout, and even nailed a job interview on one of the tough days. Booyah. Got a full night's sleep every single night, got good work done every single day. Tracking with "Don't Break the Chain". http://dontbreakthechain.com/ Key metric is sleep.

 

I am unstoppable.

 

As of right now I am at 100% like I haven't felt since I can't remember when, just itching to get on with a life that's suddenly become intolerably slow paced. And the weather outside is lovely.

 

That minor afternoon fatigue I mentioned earlier seems to have been an artifact of the sashimi, I'm not sure I even need a 20 minute nap.

 

Theoretically octopus sashimi shouldn't have bothered me; I can only guess that either they put something on it or else raw meat is just hard on my system to digest. Anyway the only thing I will eat from restaurants from now on is white rice and water.

 

Next step: earn enough money for the snow protocol. I don't want to break the bank doing it, either. No need... no hurry.

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Posted : 06/01/2012 5:08 am

One of my brother's childhood friends had multiple autoimmune disorders, like asthma and psoriasis. He could not eat gluten, sugar, cow's milk products, most fruits and even had to avoid sparkling water. Nowadays he can consume whatever he wants, he was cured. It took him almost a decade, but he is totally fine now. On the internet you read that your body replaces every cell every seven years. So keep in mind that you have to think long term, there is no magic pill that makes you problems go away all at once.

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Posted : 06/01/2012 5:11 am

Good luck with the Dr Snow programme humanstate. I hope you get something out of it.

 

I'm doing ok Indigo - nothing much to say, but every day's a stuggle, and all that...

 

What you briefly mentioned in one of your recent videos strikes with me, in that knowing you have a possibility to "end things" when I've finally had enough, or when the time seems right, gets me through each day. Without that possibility, I'd probably go insane, and not want to get up in the mornings. I'm afraid hope isn't what gets me through nowadays. I've tried so much myself, and joining this forum and reading about others after years of not doing it have killed off all hope of any new breakthroughs.

 

Ona lighter note, I am trying to get the telomere test done again. I didn't wan to mention it yet after the crushing disappointment of last time, but now that I'm planning on doing it a different way, I think it will be safe to say this time I would get the results. I wish I did this as soon as the last one fell through as it might of been done by now. It's going to take some time again but I'll keep everyone updated, as I know a lot of you PM'ed me during the last time! The kit was posted on Wednesday so I should receive it next week, unless the holidays next week mess the post up...

 

ps. I've seen your latest video Indigo, and the comments... I hope things don't get too messy...

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Posted : 06/01/2012 5:16 am

I still think only one person needs to do that Snow protocol, if anyone at all.

He diagnoses you on the phone.

We all took the same drug.

I can't think he'll differ the prescriptions.

I'm still very skeptical about this guy, but it's your money so you can spend it however you choose.

I don't like reading health books, because you ALWAYS get conflicting advice.

Some say fat is good, some say it's bad and so on.

I came across one of my old videos today (while wanking... That's a joke)

And I actually appear happy.

It was only last year though, and I know things were no different.

Sometimes I think I have bipolar or something.

[Edited video out]

Job Interview for me in a few hours.

I met up with a friend yesterday, and I had slept shit, but I'm worried about my fucking brain-fog.

I have to stop mid-speech sometimes, just to figure out what I'm saying.

Scary.

Some people post online that they end up forgetting their childhoods and stuff... People that took Accutane, that is.

But, I won't worry myself to death over that one.. I just don't want it to get to that stage.

At other times, I function okay.

I'd say it definitely progressed though.

Hopefully this won't interfere with the interview.

Humanstate - Good idea. I encourage any and every single one of you to make YouTube videos. It'll make me feel like a trend-setter, it'll help you to get things off your chest a bit, it'll encourage people to think twice about touching Accutane and I'd get to see your lovely faces :)

I'm not gay, promise.

Bye bye boys ;)

(haha)

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Posted : 06/01/2012 5:37 am

On 6/1/2012 at 6:11 PM, jmsil said:

Good luck with the Dr Snow programme humanstate. I hope you get something out of it.

I'm doing ok Indigo - nothing much to say, but every day's a stuggle, and all that...

What you briefly mentioned in one of your recent videos strikes with me, in that knowing you have a possibility to "end things" when I've finally had enough, or when the time seems right, gets me through each day. Without that possibility, I'd probably go insane, and not want to get up in the mornings. I'm afraid hope isn't what gets me through nowadays. I've tried so much myself, and joining this forum and reading about others after years of not doing it have killed off all hope of any new breakthroughs.

Ona lighter note, I am trying to get the telomere test done again. I didn't wan to mention it yet after the crushing disappointment of last time, but now that I'm planning on doing it a different way, I think it will be safe to say this time I would get the results. I wish I did this as soon as the last one fell through as it might of been done by now. It's going to take some time again but I'll keep everyone updated, as I know a lot of you PM'ed me during the last time! The kit was posted on Wednesday so I should receive it next week, unless the holidays next week mess the post up...

ps. I've seen your latest video Indigo, and the comments... I hope things don't get too messy...

Nice one mate (Telomere test).

We really need to know if we can cancel that theory out.

It'd be fantastic if we could.

Is this also going to give your biological age?

Costing a lot?

We could feel one of two ways about all this.

We've tried so many things and they haven't worked.

Is anything going to work?

Or, we could think ... We've cancelled a lot of stuff out. Perhaps all this is bring us closer to what we need.

I know it can be hard to think like the second one, especially after so many attempts at healing.

Accutane becomes this big, unreal thing that cannot be defeated.

It feels like it has killed us inside, and that we will never repair.

However, we also know it's possible to get better.

Many are still suffering these effects after 30 years.

But there are stories of people spontaneously healing, or people following a certain diet, or taking a certain supplement.

The answer may not be the same for everyone.

I think spirtuality is a good viewpoint to take in all of this.

I don't mean religion, though that's fine if you believe in it.

People need something to believe in.

But, when the shit hits the fan, like with this, you need to believe there is a reason for it.

A reason for everything.

Not just that Roche made a dangerous drug and it messed our bodies up.

Why are we here?

Not often, but sometimes, I sit up in bed and have these really weird moment and think 'Holy shit, that's amazing... weird, scary even...'

Because no matter how you look at it, there is NO logical reason for our existence.

God - If he were real, who created him/her/it?

Evolution - Where did the monkeys come from, and other living creatures?

Big Bang - How were the planets there.

Fascinating, isn't it?

It doesn't make sense.

If we died, why would it be a strive of imagination to believe we carry on somehow?

Freaking dinosaurs used to roam this planet.

There's so much weirdness.

How a sperm and egg become up to 7 ft tall (The Big Show - haha)

Incredible.

Another source I have for you guys is this:

[Edited link out]

Quotes are great.

Have as good a day as you can, and remember that our thinking got us into this situation.

We did decide to take this drug. Yes, most of us didn't know of the real risks, but perhaps we were stupid to believe a drug that clears acne and isn't easily prescribed would be safe.

Naive though, we were.

But we let acne rule our decisions. We suddenly didn't like ourselves? Why - because we've got some fucking spots?

We allowed that to depress us.

This is bigger stuff... We feel tired now, and exhausted and not well. It's hard not to let that get to us.

But, there's enough proof to show that thoughts effect our body.

Fuck supplements...

Some people have allegedly healed cancer (without medical treatment) by eating chocolate and following their dreams.. going on a trip around the world, because they thought they'd die.

We think about our minds and bodies...

We have this depression.

We have these illnesses.

But, our souls/spirits play a part.

We feel dead inside, and we need to feel alive.

Most of us are still relying on a pill to fix things.

I agree there is a lot to fix, and perhaps supplements play a part, but it IS the same thinking that got us to where we are now.

What you give your focus to, you also give power to.

We need to be taking better care of ourselves.

One day, we'll all meet up and play video games and some sport.

Maybe the BBC documentary will kick ass, and they'll fund a sequel.

Maybe not, but who knows.

Rant over.

Stefan

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Posted : 06/01/2012 9:15 am

I was "home" recently and took a look at the book I have already recommended to you guys ( http://www.amazon.co..._pr_product_top ). I looked up accutane and found that it is a treatment for pancreatic cancer and extremely toxic. Did not know that.

 

You guys should google pancreas and accutane.

 

http://accutane.powe...ncreatitus.html

 

Has anyone else tried pancreatic enzymes? I tried them and they helped a little, but I considered them to expensive. Exercise will stimulate the pancreas ;)

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Posted : 06/01/2012 9:45 am

I was "home" recently and took a look at the book I have already recommended to you guys ( http://www.amazon.co..._pr_product_top ). I looked up accutane and found that it is a treatment for pancreatic cancer and extremely toxic. Did not know that.

 

You guys should google pancreas and accutane.

 

http://accutane.powe...ncreatitus.html

 

Has anyone else tried pancreatic enzymes? I tried them and they helped a little, but I considered them to expensive. Exercise will stimulate the pancreas wink.png

 

 

Yes, I did know this and well that's probably why my pancreas no longer works and why type 1 is listed as a side effect. I haven't heard of anyone trying pancreatic enzymes, but I guess at this point it can't hurt you!

 

By the way is there anyone on this thread that is from Australia? There is a women looking to find someone for her brother or support group and I know the guy that had a fourm for Australians is not up and running anylonger?

 

Have a great weekend everyone and good luck w/ your interview Indigo! - Jen

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Posted : 06/01/2012 10:10 am

Mabye you have candida, go to your doctor and get tested!

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(@indigorush)

Posted : 06/02/2012 11:08 am

[Edited link out]

On this, scroll about half-way and read the section on 'Vitamin A - Friend or Foe?'

It's interesting.

I'm thinking about the person I could be instead of this weak, shadow of my former self, and I want to feel better NOW.

I don't want to spend the rest of my life talking about how my life was ruined.

I don't recall ever having Vitamin A supplements while on Accutane, and yet it fucked me up.

You always hear about Accutane being toxic Vitamin A.

Above, Weston Price (very respected for his finding of nutrition in relation to healthy teeth/gums) says that Accutane is not vitamin A, and that is causes symptoms of Vitamin A deficiency. Chron's disease and IBD get a mention, as well as depression and anxiety.

I know Chico and others have said about being sensitive to Vitamin A foods, Cod Liver oil and whatever else, but I'm so fed up of this I think it's worth looking into.

I mean, dry eyes and bad night vision are related to Vitamin A deficiency.

"Accutane is not vitamin A. The body handles it differently from natural vitamin A (see Figure 4) and there are a number of lines of evidence showing that it acts as an anti-vitamin A compound that can aggravate vitamin A deficiency. In newborn mice treated with dexamethasone, a drug that induces emphysema-like changes to lung tissue, natural vitamin A helps treat the disorder while the active ingredient of Accutane has no effect and may even make it worse.30 Accutane caused night blindness, a traditional sign of vitamin A deficiency, in a child with cystic fibrosis, whereas vitamin A supplementation resolved the night blindness.31 In rats, the active ingredient of this drug accumulates in the eyes and interferes with vitamin A recycling; rats taking it at high doses took fifty times longer to recover from exposure to intense light than rats that did not take the drug at all.32

A physician published a letter earlier this year reporting that two patients developed depression on Accutane; when the physician took them off the drug and supplemented them with 10-12,000 IU of vitamin A for seven to ten days, the depression resolved and they were able to go back on the drug without it recurring.33 The totality of the evidence strongly suggests that vitamin A deficiency contributes to depression and that Accutane is associated with this mental illness because it interferes with vitamin A metabolism."

CHIRON (Aka Matthew) mentioned that Beta Carotene seemed to be helping him in a noticable way.

Beta Carotene relies on your body converting it into Vitamin A.

What if we just took Vitamin A as a fat soluble supplement?

Anybody want to give it a go?

Surely, you'd be able to tell if it was working in a positive way, or negative, within days to weeks?

Vitamin A is supposed to play a large role in processing Dopamine.

I want some good news right fucking now.

Sick of living in fear and depression.

I've got a few books though, to help me 'mentally'.

I do think there is a big part, mentally as well as physically.

The books are:

'Depressive illness - The curse of the strong', 'Sunbathing in the rain' and 'Underneath the lemon tree: a memoir of depression and recovery'.

It kills me to know I could be out, happily spending my life with friends and having simple worries like money.

Hope is dangerous.

You latch on to it, and can get disappointed.

But, without hope, fear will beat you down.

Thoughts?

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Posted : 06/02/2012 2:19 pm

Hi Everyone,

I have not been on this site for a long time so I'm not up to speed on your individual conditions. But reading some of the last few posts, I feel I need to reiterate what I wrote in my last post. It may be redundant for some of you but I really want to stress this again in case the message has not reached everyone as yet.

I really recommend a MicroNutrient Test that shows the whole vitamin and mineral deficiency count. This test is better than any hair analysis etc as it not only tests the level of the nutrient in the blood but also the amount actually being used by the body tissue etc. Sorry that is the best I can explain it.

You can read more here: [Edited link out]

If you are interested in knowing more, the link below provides the description that initially led me to discuss my situation with the Nutritionist and get the test.

[Edited link out]

Accutane not only blocks the normal process of the body but it also reduces the efficiency of your organs from doing their work. So you need to have the test to rule out underlying problems cause no amount of medicines is going to fix this and you will keep addressing the symptoms rather than the problem.

Please let me know if I can answer any questions regarding this. I'm taking a custom compound that my nutritionist made for me to address my various deficiencies (severe and borderline - that were probably the real reason for my acne int he first place) as well as maintaining a low carb diet. But everyone has their own specific issue in his/ her body that needs to be addressed.

Take care!

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(@indigorush)

Posted : 06/02/2012 3:39 pm

Feeling any better?

Do you know if the UK offers this?

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(@humanstate)

Posted : 06/02/2012 8:04 pm

Hey everyone I found a site I thought you guys might wanna check out.

 

http://www.surthrival.com/

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(@jmsil)

Posted : 06/03/2012 3:24 am

It kills me to know I could be out, happily spending my life with friends and having simple worries like money.

 

 

What can I say but I feel the same way as usual..

 

That's a good link Beleive. I can't remember reading that Accutane was also for pancreatic cancer as well, but I have read a lot of things, and it's hard to keep up after all the bad stuff I read...

Indigo - The test costs $290... I don't know the exact conversion rate to GBP but it's quite a bit cheaper then the test I was doing. I don't know the answers as to ho detailed the test will be (will be emailing them next week) but I know for sure it does the give my biological age so I can see how much I have aged.

 

Regarding Vitamin A - I've already mentioned many times my experience with Eniva Vibe. I last took it last September (9 months ago) for only around 10 days at tiny fractions in terms of the RDA of Vitami A in it. I'm still getting headaches which I never had before Eniva Vibe, made my light-sensitive eyes worse, I still find flakes of dead skin on my hair from my dry/slightly itchy scalp which is a new problem since taking Eniva Vibe. Energy levels less.. I think I've been through them before... Obviously Accutane has messed up the way my body handles Vitamin A for this to happen. The Vitamin A in Eniva Vibe was rinyl palmitate, so I don't know how this differs to the Vitamin A pills you'd get from the average health shop to supplement. All I can say is from my experience, be very, very careful of supplementing Vitmin A, because the results can be very bad.

 

I also have mentioned before I use Dr Schulze's Superfood (dried foods/powder of spirlina, chlorella, wheatgrass, beetroot,spinach etc) it contains natural Vitamin A (beta-carotene at 130% RDA. I've now been taking this daily for 3 years. I don't get any bad effects like the Vitamin A (retinyl palmitate) in Eniva Vibe, and when I first took SuperFood, didn't notice any negative effects. I've also felt no real benefit. Also, including the beta-carotene in my diet, I'd easily be beating the 1-12,000 IU of Vit A the patients took to recover from the sides (Superfood contains 7,000 IU) Maybe one would need to take a really high, but safe, amount of Beta-Carotene if a real Vitamin A deficiency exists. I won't be trying though because I honestly don't think it will help... I beleive that with the whole Accutane/Vitamin A relationship, many would of tried things like this and we would know about it.

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Posted : 06/03/2012 4:28 am

Yet, you do a search on Beta-carotene and accutane and nothing.

I'll try it out though.

Maybe you're right about Vitamin A not being a good idea, but as far as I know Beta-carotene is processed differently and there won't be a risk of worsening my problems because if my body knows it has enough Vitamin A (and the body is smart) then it won't convert it.

But Chiron took Accutane 20 years ago and he thinks it's really helping him.

It's worth looking into.

I'll pop to Holland and Barrett shortly and get some.

Might not work... I have mixed thoughts.

It is tricky to be hopeful at this late stage.

Boy, have I tried supplements.

But if it doesn't work, I can cross it off my list of things to use.

 

I don't know. I'm just freaking desperate.

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Posted : 06/03/2012 5:21 am

I consume quite a lot of beta carotine and Vitamin A. For the last 3-5 years I have been eating a lot of carrots and have been using quite a lot of red palm oil as well. I eat a lot of eggs, which contain Vitamin A as well.

 

I know people who swear by cod liver oil and others who are on the opposite end of the discussion. I believe cod liver oil works. The thing is you have to get a good quality oil that has not gone rancid in the delivery process or even before. I would recommend you guys to order cod liver oil only during the colder months of the year. I know that the kids who were brought up in Germany right after the second world war, when food was scarce, were given cod liver oil in school every morning. My dad said he hated it, but is sure it did him good.

 

By the way I am very much in the corner of Weston Price and the Weston A. Price foundation when talking about what to eat and what not. Check out what they have to say.

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Posted : 06/03/2012 5:25 pm

Eh, finally [Edited image out] read this tremendous thread...

First, regards to all of you!!!

Strange paths have brought me here and problems that I only now have started to connect with my (ro)accutane usage.

In order to help others I will try to share my experiences and my knowledge here.

It was 2001. when I was taking this drug. Acne problem was so severe back then that after 10 years of post-symptomatic problems that I had, and still do, I haven't looked back at taking accutane as bad decision. Now, I can say, loud and clear - Do not take this medication! Why? Well, I still have acne. Thats first. And then this living hell that I went through since. Including every possible symptom mentioned here. Severe weight loss, concentration deficits, digestive disorders, fatigue, blushing, anxiety, etc.... Problem was that back then I was just a kid, and thought that I was going mad (as todays medicine would tell you that most of those problems are on a psychological basis) and haven't even questioned accutane. But slowly I was fighting and tried to solve the problems the best way I could. Lots of research done and information gathered (I see that this is something that connects you all here, and I am sure you are all active in vast areas of interests? For example - Indigo, why ''Indigo''?). Candida symptoms was my first clue. Of course diet changes and whole holistic approach. I have tried so many diets. There was this period when I ate only sesame paste (tahini) and toasted bred. Same time I was brushing my teeth with ''Capitano'' toothpaste *that has active oxygen in it. Then the first crawling sensations appeared (like ants just there are no ants!!! like moving beneath the skin?!). After introducing silver water I have started to feel more and hear more. And all the time I have learned more. Meanwhile I have completed my MSc college degree. Symptoms are still there, but now I am much closer to understand why, and most importantly I am very close to be able to control them. For example, if I eat too much sweet (or drink milk, or take omega-3 fatty acids *as someone mentioned earlier?,...), especially during full moon occultations, I will experience an eruption of acne. That acne are not as ones before accutane usage (that must be clear!) but still very annoying.

Conclusion is next. Acne could be result of hormonal activity. Ok. Acne are also result of toxins that are being expelled throughout the skin. Acne are also result of bacterial, yeast or any other parasitical infection. If not directly, then indirectly in messing up with first two mentioned body mechanisms.

So, when we use accutane, or any other ''acne effect-treating'' medicine, we do not treat the cause. Well, most of acne medicals are antibiotique based, so they are treating the cause but only the narrow specied pathogens (g+ bacteria, mostly) and problem is that not only in your skin, but throughout your body and especially digestive system, you MUST HAVE lving bacteria (''friendly bacteria'' is the term now used. earlier recommended colostrum, breast milk, is the right thing, yes) that will protect against other (unwanted) bacteria and all variety of parasites. Once you cripple this ecosystem you damage your immune system and you let parasites to enter. And then, form hair loss to heart problems, your body deteriorate...

So, your best way in eradicating your problems is in eradicating your parasites. And best way to do it is to intake the most effective poison on Earth. And that should be oxygen. I suggest you all MMS . Not selling it, haven't tried it yet. But as soon as Paypal come to this shithole country of mine, I will share with you my experiences.

Peace and battle on brave warriors!!!

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Posted : 06/03/2012 6:31 pm

heard and read about the supp you recommend before, never tried it either. Over at curezone you will find people talking about it. I don't know, I just decided to order omega-3s before the summer really gets going and some more dandelion root. If anyone wants a 5$ iherb coupon, here you go: YUX392 (only for first timers though).

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