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Thanks Joseph!!
Do you inject LDN, if so why? Is that how most people take it?
Is that the only way to take it?
Also, how long do you plan on staying on it? You must have a plan to come off it at some point I'd imagine!?
I'm glad it has worked for you - I'm looking for something that breaks me out of chronic fatigue, I'm so over it....
Hi all first post here, wish I would've came across this forum sooner (24 years old, male).
As someone who did 1 course of Accutane for 6 months on 20mg from 2014-2015 I can say I haven't suffered from too many sides while I was on the drug. After however.. well fuck me. Even though I always had thin hair, the volume of hair I had was something, it made it look as if I had thick hair. I did lose some hair strands during the treatment but nothing too drastic.
A couple of months after however, I started thinning/shedding a bit more rapidly but it wasn't diffused and you couldn't really notice it unless you were me (OCD). I went to see a different dermatologist because I was so mad at the other one that told me to go on Accutane for mild facial acne and a bit more intense back/shoulder acne that I wasn't able to get rid of for a year due to waxing and working out right after (dumb mistake I made when I was younger). Well the other dermatologist was one that my dad had seen in the past, and since my dad has MPB (it only started for him in his 40's) right away he told me I had MPB since my dad had it and that it had nothing to do with Accutane, stress, anxiety, lack of sleep as those are only temporary. Well it could've been temporary since I only had been off Accutane for 3 months at that point. He prescribed me with finasteride which I took and threw in the garbage after 4 months because it gave me dry scalp, increased shedding and testicular pain. During winter and spring of 2015-2016, the shedding got crazy and I lost most of my hair.. I mean some of my friends and family asked me what was up as they started to notice more and more that my hair was thinner.
And then here we are today, approximately 1 year and 4 months following the end of my Accutane treatment.My voluminous dark hair of 2 years ago is now thin and you can see thru most of it in the light or sun. Vicious cycle since I'm stressing over it every day and really getting depressed. I just had a pretty intense talk with my parents and cried for an hour or so (this is the first time I open up to them about the pain that this caused to me and how I regret taking this drug). Like I told them, I wouldn't mind losing hair due to genetics especially if I was in my 40's. The thing is, I'm convinced this is due to Accutane. At the rhythm I'm going, I'll probably be bald before my dad.Taking this drug was probably the biggest mistake I've made in my life. The naive me thought that since my friends didn't really have any sides that I would be just as lucky. Well I wasn't. I also have trouble gaining weight as I used to when I wasplaying football.I have a pretty good diet and workout lots but I'm stuck at the same weight.
Since I haven't read all of the pages from this thread, I'm wondering if anyone was able to find a good way to cleanse your body from the drug if it was a possibility that it was still in my system. I'd probably be willing to do anything natural to get some of my hair back seeing as I'm still in the timeframe where I can stop it and slow down the process. Staying away from drugs and the pharmaceutical companies caring only about the $.
12 hours ago, musha said:Hi all first post here, wish I would've came across this forum sooner (24 years old, male).
As someone who did 1 course of Accutane for 6 months on 20mg from 2014-2015 I can say I haven't suffered from too many sides while I was on the drug. After however.. well fuck me. Even though I always had thin hair, the volume of hair I had was something, it made it look as if I had thick hair. I did lose some hair strands during the treatment but nothing too drastic.
A couple of months after however, I started thinning/shedding a bit more rapidly but it wasn't diffused and you couldn't really notice it unless you were me (OCD). I went to see a different dermatologist because I was so mad at the other one that told me to go on Accutane for mild facial acne and a bit more intense back/shoulder acne that I wasn't able to get rid of for a year due to waxing and working out right after (dumb mistake I made when I was younger). Well the other dermatologist was one that my dad had seen in the past, and since my dad has MPB (it only started for him in his 40's) right away he told me I had MPB since my dad had it and that it had nothing to do with Accutane, stress, anxiety, lack of sleep as those are only temporary. Well it could've been temporary since I only had been off Accutane for 3 months at that point. He prescribed me with finasteride which I took and threw in the garbage after 4 months because it gave me dry scalp, increased shedding and testicular pain. During winter and spring of 2015-2016, the shedding got crazy and I lost most of my hair.. I mean some of my friends and family asked me what was up as they started to notice more and more that my hair was thinner.
And then here we are today, approximately 1 year and 4 months following the end of my Accutane treatment.My voluminous dark hair of 2 years ago is now thin and you can see thru most of it in the light or sun. Vicious cycle since I'm stressing over it every day and really getting depressed. I just had a pretty intense talk with my parents and cried for an hour or so (this is the first time I open up to them about the pain that this caused to me and how I regret taking this drug). Like I told them, I wouldn't mind losing hair due to genetics especially if I was in my 40's. The thing is, I'm convinced this is due to Accutane. At the rhythm I'm going, I'll probably be bald before my dad.Taking this drug was probably the biggest mistake I've made in my life. The naive me thought that since my friends didn't really have any sides that I would be just as lucky. Well I wasn't. I also have trouble gaining weight as I used to when I wasplaying football.I have a pretty good diet and workout lots but I'm stuck at the same weight.
Since I haven't read all of the pages from this thread, I'm wondering if anyone was able to find a good way to cleanse your body from the drug if it was a possibility that it was still in my system. I'd probably be willing to do anything natural to get some of my hair back seeing as I'm still in the timeframe where I can stop it and slow down the process. Staying away from drugs and the pharmaceutical companies caring only about the $.
First of all. Try and read the thread. It might takes days, even a week but you'll learn a thing or two.
Look into hair transplants, may be what you need unfortunately.
5 hours ago, Iamme. said:First of all. Try and read the thread. It might takes days, even a week but you'll learn a thing or two.Look into hair transplants, may be what you need unfortunately.
I went from super thick hair to 50% hair loss in 1.5 months of chemo therapy er isotretinoin get used to it there is no long term fix your body has been poisoned best you can hope for is symptom management.
Avoid retinol and limit alcohol intake also try baxyl for the systemic dehydration and joint pain and don't @$("; with your skin unless you want to have a heart attack isotretinoin is stored in the skin fat cells this will reactivate it.
One derm said it correctly and I quote" I don't use it in my practice, we don't know the long term outcome of these patients ".
Another patient said " I'm just a drone going through high school , and I can't get an erection anymore Btw I'm only 16.
Standardtreatment after isotretinoin exposure is SSRI,s MORE poison as the patient will have to live with reduced brain function for the rest of his her life.FACT. Derms lie MRI's DON'T.
6 hours ago, Iamme. said:First of all. Try and read the thread. It might takes days, even a week but you'll learn a thing or two.Look into hair transplants, may be what you need unfortunately.
I'd rather shave my head than get hair transplant. I know I'm gonna lose my hair eventually. There's no way I'm paying the amount of money it costs and getting a scar on my head for temporary mild satisfaction.
3 minutes ago, musha said:6 hours ago, Iamme. said:First of all. Try and read the thread. It might takes days, even a week but you'll learn a thing or two.Look into hair transplants, may be what you need unfortunately.
I'd rather shave my head than get hair transplant. I know I'm gonna lose my hair eventually. There's no way I'm paying the amount of money it costs and getting a scar on my head for temporary mild satisfaction.
Yup best option is to shave your head it's what I did trust me you will get used to it.
Has anyone supplemented choline?
21 hours ago, musha said:Hi all first post here, wish I would've came across this forum sooner (24 years old, male).
As someone who did 1 course of Accutane for 6 months on 20mg from 2014-2015 I can say I haven't suffered from too many sides while I was on the drug. After however.. well fuck me. Even though I always had thin hair, the volume of hair I had was something, it made it look as if I had thick hair. I did lose some hair strands during the treatment but nothing too drastic.
A couple of months after however, I started thinning/shedding a bit more rapidly but it wasn't diffused and you couldn't really notice it unless you were me (OCD). I went to see a different dermatologist because I was so mad at the other one that told me to go on Accutane for mild facial acne and a bit more intense back/shoulder acne that I wasn't able to get rid of for a year due to waxing and working out right after (dumb mistake I made when I was younger). Well the other dermatologist was one that my dad had seen in the past, and since my dad has MPB (it only started for him in his 40's) right away he told me I had MPB since my dad had it and that it had nothing to do with Accutane, stress, anxiety, lack of sleep as those are only temporary. Well it could've been temporary since I only had been off Accutane for 3 months at that point. He prescribed me with finasteride which I took and threw in the garbage after 4 months because it gave me dry scalp, increased shedding and testicular pain. During winter and spring of 2015-2016, the shedding got crazy and I lost most of my hair.. I mean some of my friends and family asked me what was up as they started to notice more and more that my hair was thinner.
And then here we are today, approximately 1 year and 4 months following the end of my Accutane treatment.My voluminous dark hair of 2 years ago is now thin and you can see thru most of it in the light or sun. Vicious cycle since I'm stressing over it every day and really getting depressed. I just had a pretty intense talk with my parents and cried for an hour or so (this is the first time I open up to them about the pain that this caused to me and how I regret taking this drug). Like I told them, I wouldn't mind losing hair due to genetics especially if I was in my 40's. The thing is, I'm convinced this is due to Accutane. At the rhythm I'm going, I'll probably be bald before my dad.Taking this drug was probably the biggest mistake I've made in my life. The naive me thought that since my friends didn't really have any sides that I would be just as lucky. Well I wasn't. I also have trouble gaining weight as I used to when I wasplaying football.I have a pretty good diet and workout lots but I'm stuck at the same weight.
Since I haven't read all of the pages from this thread, I'm wondering if anyone was able to find a good way to cleanse your body from the drug if it was a possibility that it was still in my system. I'd probably be willing to do anything natural to get some of my hair back seeing as I'm still in the timeframe where I can stop it and slow down the process. Staying away from drugs and the pharmaceutical companies caring only about the $.
So sad to read your story. As yet can only suggest you eat well and exercise. Get as much testing done as possible, i can send you a list of tests you can ask for when I get some time if this will help you. Please don't take any prescribed medication especially finasteride!!!! and anti depressants. It is early days so try and be positive. Good luck
2 hours ago, hatetane said:Has anyone supplemented choline? So sad to read your story. As yet can only suggest you eat well and exercise. Get as much testing done as possible, i can send you a list of tests you can ask for when I get some time if this will help you. Please don't take any prescribed medication especially finasteride!!!! and anti depressants. It is early days so try and be positive. Good luck
Yeah I think I just made the shedding worse trying different stuff.. like I was shedding/thinning a bit more after my accutane treatment but it wasn't that bad, you could almost call it natural shedding. It worsen a bit before finasteride and then on finasteride I felt like a cancer patient because I'd lose so much hair with white bulbs while just passing my hand thru my hair. I was also shampooing/conditioning with nioxin and its said to increase shedding and itching for the first few weeks. Did some research and apparently I was using the new formula which is getting pretty bad reviews, sounds like I should've done more research once again. I read that this shedding is temporary but it lasted for months and my scalp got really irritated and I didn't stop the treatment soon enough. The shedding did slow down a bit in the past month or so, but it hasn't improved either. I've been on nizoral and some organic shampoos to try and better my scalp and it has helped so far. I know growing hair is a process that can take time, I'm just scared that the forced shedding the drugs caused and me getting sunburnt and having dry scalp for months without really trying to improve the situation from the get-go miniaturized and damaged my follicles beyond repair.. I'm getting another series of tests done next week and I might do a colon hypnotherapy + liver cleanse in the next month or so don't know yet. Should've, would've, could've.
23 hours ago, Gladiatoro said:...... and don't @$("; with your skin unless you want to have a heart attack isotretinoin is stored in the skin fat cells this will reactivate it.
Hello Gladitoro,
I have been reading this a couple of times now. But where is this coming from, that isotretinoin is still stored in the skin fat cells? Is this from a reliable source?
9 hours ago, Roland1968 said:Hello Gladitoro,I have been reading this a couple of times now. But where is this coming from, that isotretinoin is still stored in the skin fat cells? Is this from a reliable source?
The reliable source is me , after rubbing my skin for a few weeks I got heart papulations and dizziness for about a week after.
Anyone else having issues with drinking? Most of the time I feel like I can't digest or takes a lot longer to digest food. But as soon as I drink large amounts of any liquid I shortly after start coughing and getting acid reflux like symptoms and feels like I just piss right out whatever I drank very shortly after. As if my body is rejecting water...
Hey guys, I realize it's been a while since I posted here. To fill in, I feel my state of mind while on this drug had still been completely messed up. Over the past 1-2 months, I started and dropped out of my dream college (on medical withdrawal) and spent a month in a psych ward/mental hospital after nearly attempting suicide, had 6 ECT treatments and was diagnosed with major depressive disorder. I've watched myself stop caring about things I used to so deeply, I've watched my motivation, drive, feelings, and personality all die. I honestly wonder how you guys continue to do it. I've looked down so many stairwells, over so many bridges, and in front of so many trains. I find myself struggling to go on. Can anyone here give me a reason that something can still make you go back to normal after taking these murder pills?
10 hours ago, JosephBuchignani said:No, you do not inject LDN. The graduated syringe is for measurement.
Thanks.
Just a question, were you at a point where no supplement would provide the relief you were after in terms of energy?
Was it a case of once you tried LDN it started to give you the energy you once had? I'm also guessing that along with increased energy it lifted some brain fog too?
Im so brain fucked after 19 years that I'm worried I've got Alzheimer's....I'm not joking.
7 hours ago, cnb30 said:Hey guys, I realize it's been a while since I posted here. To fill in, I feel my state of mind while on this drug had still been completely messed up. Over the past 1-2 months, I started and dropped out of my dream college (on medical withdrawal) and spent a month in a psych ward/mental hospital after nearly attempting suicide, had 6 ECT treatments and was diagnosed with major depressive disorder. I've watched myself stop caring about things I used to so deeply, I've watched my motivation, drive, feelings, and personality all die. I honestly wonder how you guys continue to do it. I've looked down so many stairwells, over so many bridges, and in front of so many trains. I find myself struggling to go on. Can anyone here give me a reason that something can still make you go back to normal after taking these murder pills?
As far as I remember, you took accutane not so long ago? In first years chance of recovery is higher, even without taking any extra steps sometimes your body can recover if you watch over it(you are young so it's another plus for you). But as you can see even if someone have really bad symptoms that last for years he can improve - JosephBuchignani and LDN. I don't know if in your case LDN would help but it's completelly harmless so you can try without any dangers from it.
12 hours ago, Gladiatoro said:
Info on there is 5 or more years old. Anyone know what happened to that guy Max who had all that info?
Just another one of those types who comes out all guns blazing with info and then disappears off the radar......bit like the guy who started this thread!!
Safe to say all our endocrine systems are fucked, problem is tests do fuck all, only solution is to meditate, try and get adequate sleep and rest. I'll try and sell my story to Dr to get some LDN - don't know what my chances are though of obtaining it??
Just another day in paradise.....
1 hour ago, cnb30 said:What is LDN?
also, has anyone here tried death yet? That seems like the best option. After all, it's not like we're already partially murdered or anything.
also, does anyone here know of any drugs that REALLY alter your brain so atleast I can be somewhere else?
fuck off you fucking faggot
Hey I haven't been following the forum for a while but just wanted to report that weekly IV injections of glutathione is the only thing that has made me feel good in YEARS. It took 4-5 weeks to start feeling good. Was doing them weekly for maybe 10 weeks before we decided to stretch it out to every two weeks. I got busy and it turned into 3-4 weeks between IV's and I started feeling crappy again. So back to once a week for me, totally worth it. I am also now on Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN). I saw this mentioned in some earlier posts. It really makes my sleep terrible. I sleep ok but when I wake up I feel like I could sleep another 6 hours. I am on 2nd month. Started at 1.5mg, now at 3mg. In the beginning I had a stiff neck and headaches daily. The purpose of the glutathione and LDN for me is to increase my regulatory T-cells. This will help keep my immune system from attacking myself which is my primary (only?) issue at this point post tane.