9 hours ago, AcneScience said:So yes, the drug is dangerous. It's your responsibility if you're taking a drug, even if it's been prescribed by a doctor, to look into its side effects to prevent long-term side effects. That's why they have side effect labels available for customer viewing.
The problem is that doctors downplay the side effects. When I went on the drug in 2012, I was aware of the negative anecdotes and lawsuits associated with the drug. However, my dermatologist said how her sons and assistant all used the drug! She made it seem as if I will be monitored for any issues, and how I will be taken off the drug if anything comes up. What I gathered from the situation was that any side effects were rare and reversible so long I immediately got off the drug at the first sign of trouble. The tests they ran on me monthly gave me a false sense of security too. A blood test cannot determine what is going in your intestinal tract, gut, hippocampus, hypothalamus, orbitotfrontal cortex, endocrine system, etc.
Me? I was just an impressionable, young man desperate to cure a cosmetic problem. Experts were assuring me I was in good hands. Their words calmed my apprehensions about what I read online or what I read in the side effect booklet. The discrepancy of information between my doctor and side effect booklet were like day and (dark, gloomy) night. But of course I would listen to the doctor!
Consider how many times Accutane was nearly taken off the market or recommended to be taken off by physicians or FDA officials. In a slightly different reality, Accutane wouldn't even be an option. There was some complicated politics going on between Roche and the FDA at one point. How is an emotionally-distraught, acne-ridden patient supposed to compete with these extensive factors? How are they supposed to approach this situation rationally when doctors say one thing, but complicated studies and safety labels say another?
I do look at ALL Accutane sufferers as victims. Broad economic/political forces are WHY Accutane is still available. Plain and simple. People have an acne cure dangling in their faces, so of course they will pay attention to information that reinforces the decision to go on the drug. Call it a flaw with human psychology, but I wouldn't put too much emphasis on individual blame.
On 7/24/2016 at 8:34 AM, cnb30 said:You mean to tell me this feeling his permanent. Ahh all the more reason to die sooner, but not before revenge.
Anyway, if anyone on here wonders what emotional numbness feels like, just listen to this. Now I want you to imagine never being able to feel anything more intense than that for the rest of your life. I hope you now understand why death is so appealing. You are literally stuck in a waiting room that is your mind.
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I wouldn't worry about revenge, we're bigger than that. These criminals will have to face their Karma ( it's inescapable ). I'm not interested in bringing anyone down or any of that shit - that would only put you on the same level as them.
The best we can do is cope and then cope even more, hopefully have a job that brings in some ok money and live life as best we can.
Imagine if if you sort revenge and it turns out that all you had to do to fix your Accutane side effect was to work on gut health - they'd consider you to be a fucken moron, just like every other dick running around shooting people!!
fuck that - I'm way bigger than that shit
5 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:I wouldn't worry about revenge, we're bigger than that. These criminals will have to face their Karma ( it's inescapable ). I'm not interested in bringing anyone down or any of that shit - that would only put you on the same level as them.The best we can do is cope and then cope even more, hopefully have a job that brings in some ok money and live life as best we can.
Imagine if if you sort revenge and it turns out that all you had to do to fix your Accutane side effect was to work on gut health - they'd consider you to be a fucken moron, just like every other dick running around shooting people!!
fuck that - I'm way bigger than that shit
Eh I don't believe in Karma or any of that shit. Plus I see no motive to simply surviving. I'll either Live, or Die, and not simply be a parasite for the rest of my life.
40 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:I wouldn't worry about revenge, we're bigger than that. These criminals will have to face their Karma ( it's inescapable ). I'm not interested in bringing anyone down or any of that shit - that would only put you on the same level as them.The best we can do is cope and then cope even more, hopefully have a job that brings in some ok money and live life as best we can.
Imagine if if you sort revenge and it turns out that all you had to do to fix your Accutane side effect was to work on gut health - they'd consider you to be a fucken moron, just like every other dick running around shooting people!!
fuck that - I'm way bigger than that shit
You have to realize most people are happy with the treatment so it's a poison yeah but having severe acne is also no fun so I understand why people take it , the drug however should be reserved for severe cystic acne only.
On 7/24/2016 at 8:34 AM, cnb30 said:You mean to tell me this feeling his permanent. Ahh all the more reason to die sooner, but not before revenge.
Anyway, if anyone on here wonders what emotional numbness feels like, just listen to this. Now I want you to imagine never being able to feel anything more intense than that for the rest of your life. I hope you now understand why death is so appealing. You are literally stuck in a waiting room that is your mind.
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Loooool, you must have been cooked going in
All of this talk about emotional blunting and depression....Vitamin A is an Alcohol.... maybe we have a form of alcohol poisoning... maybe we have a form of PTSD? Google Thiamine and alcoholism, PTSD and hippocampus.
guess which Dr is studying this??? Douglas Bremner of accutane fame... [Edited link out]
13-cis-retinoic acid suppresses hippocampal cell division and hippocampal-dependent learning in mice
The active component of the acne drug Accutane is 13-cis-retinoic acid (RA), and it is highly teratogenic for the developing central nervous system. Very little is known, however, regarding the effect of this drug on the adult brain. Regions of the brain that may be susceptible to RA are those that continue to generate new neurons. In the adult mouse, neurogenesis is maintained in the hippocampus and subventricular zone. This report demonstrates that a clinical dose (1 mgkgday) of 13-cis-RA in mice significantly reduces cell proliferation in the hippocampus and the subventricular zone, suppresses hippocampal neurogenesis, and severely disrupts capacity to learn a spatial radial maze task. The results demonstrate that the regions of the adult brain where cell proliferation is ongoing are highly sensitive to disruption by a clinical dose of 13-cis-RA
Our results demonstrate that long-term exposure to all-trans-RA or 13-cis-RA, at the 1 mgkg clinical dose, results in a significant decrease in cell proliferation in the hippocampus, as well as in the SVZ. That cell survival is also decreased implies that chronic exposure to RA may interfere with the normal action of RA to promote neuronal birth, just as exposure of the embryo to RA interferes with the normal functions of RA to guide neurogenesis (43). However, the mechanism for this decrease in survival is unknown.
http://www.pnas.org/content/101/14/5111.full.pdf
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Downregulation of Transketolase Activity Is Related to Inhibition of Hippocampal Progenitor Cell Proliferation Induced by Thiamine Deficiency
The levels of thiamine in the human brain are far lower than those in other organs or tissues, suggesting that the brain is highly sensitive to TD [12]. In our previous study, we found that hippocampal neurogenesis is significantly decreased in a TD mouse model established by feeding mice with a thiamine-depleted diet. Notably, hippocampal neurogenesis was greatly impaired and contributed to the cognitive dysfunction induced by TD at the early prepathological lesion stage [17]. TK activity and NADPH levels decreased more significantly in the hippocampus than in the cortex [18]. Considering that cell proliferation requires a large amount of ribose-5-phosphate for biosynthesis of nucleotides [19], a decrease of TK activity that impairs the PPP would decrease the metabolism of ribose-5-phosphate and NADPH, thereby inhibiting hippocampal neurogenesis. http://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2014/572915/
Extinction of fear memory and cell proliferation in adult mouse hippocampus are increased by benfotiamine
http://www.frontiersin.org/10.3389/conf.fnhum.2012.210.00014/event_abstract
On 7/24/2016 at 8:21 AM, ACCUiTy_drANE said:Gosh, all this talk about anhedonia is really hitting home. Yes, this drug seemed to zap me of my ability to feel any passion or drive. Sometimes I am not sure if it's a PHYSICAL feeling (i.e., fog) preventing me from feeling pleasure, or as if all of my emotions have simply been blunted. It's like I lost the ability to conceptualize any of my feelings or emotions. I never know if I am angry, happy, or irritable, etc. Everything is shallow and fleeting. There seems to be no overarching meaning to my emotions. It really makes me second guess every facet of my life direction.
I have had depression issues before Accutane, but they were in the realm of intense feelings of sadness. My contemporary problems are of a distinctively different brand. In fact, it has shifted how I view life too. Prior to Accutane, I never understood the appeal of drugs. It was because I could enjoy hobbies and simple activities. Now a days, I have no idea what to do with myself when I have time to myself. Video games aren't fun. I can't get hooked on a book. I can't get lost in an idea. I can't fantasize in my head the way I used to. Everything is dull. Now a days, I know what it's like to crave an artificial escape. My proclivity for risk-taking has sky-rocketed. My everyday "neurotransmitter noise" is vastly different than it once was. It makes me wonder what other people feel day-to-day; it makes me wonder what other spectrums people possess. Some people are hyper-motivated overachievers. Some are lazy. Some are easily amused. Some are easily bored. I now appreciate the fact we all have different levels of reinforcement for life in general. It has a bigger impact on our lives than the average person will acknowledge. I know this because I have lived through a shift in my "neurotransmitter noise." It is incredibly real and seemingly beyond my control.
I believe its all physical in cause. For me, I stopped doing any activities that I once liked. Even basic stuff like eating, putting on make up, having conversations had 0 appeal. I was semi catatonic. Happiness is just certain brain chemicals after all. Maybe we should look into what raises serotonin and dopamine. I know chocolate does but probably by a small amount.
Don't believe that the cause is all in your head. I hope you are able to come put of it as some of us have.
On 7/24/2016 at 8:34 AM, cnb30 said:You mean to tell me this feeling his permanent. Ahh all the more reason to die sooner, but not before revenge.
Anyway, if anyone on here wonders what emotional numbness feels like, just listen to this. Now I want you to imagine never being able to feel anything more intense than that for the rest of your life. I hope you now understand why death is so appealing. You are literally stuck in a waiting room that is your mind.
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I don't believe its permanent. I believe you might need help ( meds, supplements etc) getting your chemicals back to normal ranges.
You know you're getting better when death is no longer appealing so work toward that.
On 7/24/2016 at 8:50 AM, ACCUiTy_drANE said:The problem is that doctors downplay the side effects. When I went on the drug in 2012, I was aware of the negative anecdotes and lawsuits associated with the drug. However, my dermatologist said how her sons and assistant all used the drug! She made it seem as if I will be monitored for any issues, and how I will be taken off the drug if anything comes up. What I gathered from the situation was that any side effects were rare and reversible so long I immediately got off the drug at the first sign of trouble. The tests they ran on me monthly gave me a false sense of security too. A blood test cannot determine what is going in your intestinal tract, gut, hippocampus, hypothalamus, orbitotfrontal cortex, endocrine system, etc.
Me? I was just an impressionable, young man desperate to cure a cosmetic problem. Experts were assuring me I was in good hands. Their words calmed my apprehensions about what I read online or what I read in the side effect booklet. The discrepancy of information between my doctor and side effect booklet were like day and (dark, gloomy) night. But of course I would listen to the doctor!
Consider how many times Accutane was nearly taken off the market or recommended to be taken off by physicians or FDA officials. In a slightly different reality, Accutane wouldn't even be an option. There was some complicated politics going on between Roche and the FDA at one point. How is an emotionally-distraught, acne-ridden patient supposed to compete with these extensive factors? How are they supposed to approach this situation rationally when doctors say one thing, but complicated studies and safety labels say another?
I do look at ALL Accutane sufferers as victims. Broad economic/political forces are WHY Accutane is still available. Plain and simple. People have an acne cure dangling in their faces, so of course they will pay attention to information that reinforces the decision to go on the drug. Call it a flaw with human psychology, but I wouldn't put too much emphasis on individual blame.
and, that a lot of people taking it are kids (12-18). Kids cannot possibly comprehend weighing the potential side effects, though you could argue a well informed adult might.
On 7/24/2016 at 9:54 AM, Gladiatoro said:On 7/24/2016 at 9:09 AM, TrueJustice said:I wouldn't worry about revenge, we're bigger than that. These criminals will have to face their Karma ( it's inescapable ). I'm not interested in bringing anyone down or any of that shit - that would only put you on the same level as them.The best we can do is cope and then cope even more, hopefully have a job that brings in some ok money and live life as best we can.
Imagine if if you sort revenge and it turns out that all you had to do to fix your Accutane side effect was to work on gut health - they'd consider you to be a fucken moron, just like every other dick running around shooting people!!
fuck that - I'm way bigger than that shit
You have to realize most people are happy with the treatment so it's a poison yeah but having severe acne is also no fun so I understand why people take it , the drug however should be reserved for severe cystic acne only.
yes some people are fortunate and don't have horrible side effects. I met someone in his 40 s who took it in the 80 s and had no idea accutane had a correlation to suicide, he'd never heard of it.
5 hours ago, snarkygirl said:I believe its all physical in cause. For me, I stopped doing any activities that I once liked. Even basic stuff like eating, putting on make up, having conversations had 0 appeal. I was semi catatonic. Happiness is just certain brain chemicals after all. Maybe we should look into what raises serotonin and dopamine. I know chocolate does but probably by a small amount.
Don't believe that the cause is all in your head. I hope you are able to come put of it as some of us have.
I wish chocolate was the cure to all of this nonsense we're going through . But of course, life rarely ever seems to be that easy.
As of right now I'm researching/looking more into CBD oil and have gone to a D.O.. I actually heard about this doctor I recently met up with through a family friend, and apparently he can work some magic as long as you follow his strict instructions on what to do. Right now he's looking into all the information I gave him, and he told me it could take 2-3 weeks for him to come up with something that will (hopefully) help me. If he is able to help, I'll be eager to tell all of you what he told me to do/take.
In the meanwhile, I'm just trying not to give up all hope. It's so easy for me to fall into a cycle of regret, anger, and general sadness about even thinking about taking this drug and how seemingly easy everything was before I got myself into this mess.
I believe most people here should be on 1-2 mg of lithium daily. I personally take 5 mg per day. Lithium Orotate.
It's naturally found in water in those amounts.
5-20 mg is necessary to overcome a deficiency, which I feel most of us have.
It greatly improves depression by serotonin production increasing.
58 minutes ago, yetanotheraccutanevictim said:I believe most people here should be on 1-2 mg of lithium daily. I personally take 5 mg per day. Lithium Orotate.
It's naturally found in water in those amounts.5-20 mg is necessary to overcome a deficiency, which I feel most of us have.
It greatly improves depression by serotonin production increasing.
Do you notice any increased oil production?
Antidepressant treatment seems to lead to an increase in neurogenesis, which is chronologically seen during the same period as the clinical improvement.241Severe acne and acneiform eruptions have been observed with high doses of tricyclic antidepressants and lithium therapy. In brain of mice, lithium significantly decreased FoxO3a levels.255As already mentioned, FoxO3a activates the promoter of FoxO1 and is an important inducer of FoxO1 gene expression.11The acneigenic effect of lithium therapy may be related to a lithium-induced nuclear deficiency of FoxO1 by suppression of the FoxO1 promoter. In mice, elevated serotonergic activity increased Akt-mediated phosphorylation of FoxO1 and FoxO3a in various brain regions resulting in nuclear deficieny of FoxO1 and FoxO3a.256FoxOs in brain of rodents are intensely involved in the regulation of behavioral manifestation.256Upregulated serotonin levels by antidepressants reduce nuclear concentrations of FoxO1 and FoxO3 in neuronal cells. FoxO1-deficient mice displayed reduced anxiety, whereas FoxO3a-deficient mice presented with a significant anti-depressant-like behavior.256Thus, elevated nuclear content of FoxO1 and FoxO3a by isotretinoin treatment in the human hippocampus and hypothalamic areas of the brain may explain depression and mood changes observed with isotretinoin therapy in some susceptible individuals.241
ALSO....
FIG. 5. FoxO1 nuclear localization. A : FoxO1 localization in EPCs by confocal microscopy. Top , the arrows indicate EPC with FoxO1 nuclear localization; bottom , the bar graph indicates the number of EPCs showing nuclear FoxO1 is increased in high glucose (HG) compared with controls and benfotiamine (BFT) (** P < 0.01, * P < 0.05, ANOVA-1, n 4). B : Western blot analysis of nuclear extracts. High glucose induces a nuclear accumulation of FoxO1 with respect to controls, benfotiamine, and mannitol (MAN) conditions; topoisomerase-1 was used to confirm quality of nuclear extracts. C : Expression of FoxO targets is modulated by high glucose and reverted by benfotiamine (Bim-el, ** P < 0.01 controls vs. high glucose and * P < 0.05 high glucose vs. high glucose plus benfotiamine; FasL, ** P < 0.01 for high glucose vs. controls and high glucose plus benfotiamine; p27, not significant; Catalase, * P < 0.05 controls vs. high glucose and high glucose plus benfotiamine; ANOVA-1). D : Analysis of apoptosis after propidium iodide staining by flow cytometry. The percentage of apoptotic cells is increased in high glucose compared with controls and benfotiamine (*** P < 0.001 high glucose vs. controls, ** P < 0.01 high glucose vs. high glucose plus benfotiamine, ANOVA-1, n 4).
Hey everyone, I've been following this thread on and off, and I've read through a lot of your posts. Thank you to everyone who shared their stories and tibits, I felt alone and confused about it all for so long until I discovered others had nearly identical experiences. Figured I could share my story and join the convo.
I took Accutane when I was 16 (in 2010). I guess I blocked out the experience, because I don't even remember how long I took it, but I know I suffered from mood swings, depression, and face redness while taking it. My acne cleared up, but the side effects stuck around once I stopped the drug.
Anyway, I started taking Lexapro in May of 2014 for my depression and anxiety. Later that year, I started having severe neck pain and tension headaches, so I stopped taking the Lexapro in December under the assumption that it was the culprit. Well the pain persisted, so I visited a TMJ doctor. They gave me a retainer and "realigned my jaw," which I was sure would stop the pain, but it didn't. I eat a balanced diet (I'm a Dietetics major), exercise, stretch, and get massages multiple times a month. Nothing helps.
In December of 2016, I stopped birth control, which was the only medication I was still taking, because I was experiencing crying spells and extreme emotional lows, and I was sure the BC was the culprit. Sure enough, I feel closer to normal emotionally than I have since I started birth control at age 16, but my acne came back full-fledged. So now I am back where I started, with the painful cystic acne, and now a concoction of GI Problems, Severe Neck and Back Pain, Brain Fog, and Lethargy to go along with it.
I'm going to the doctor on August 4th to get blood work, x-rays, and a referral to a GI specialist. Any advice on what to tell my GP?
Thanks for reading!
Can we all take a step back and realize that were permanently screwed. No amount of pills or supplements of therapy is going to fix us. We might as well just accept the void and go down, and possibly take down big pharma with us.
I'm at one of those points where I just realized just how much I've been damaged and realize I'm hopelessly fucked and could honestly go for watching the world burn. Why is Accutane even fucking legal?
7 minutes ago, cnb30 said:Can we all take a step back and realize that were permanently screwed. No amount of pills or supplements of therapy is going to fix us. We might as well just accept the void and go down, and possibly take down big pharma with us.
I'm at one of those points where I just realized just how much I've been damaged and realize I'm hopelessly fucked and could honestly go for watching the world burn. Why is Accutane even fucking legal?
Cnb30- I have skimmed through your posts....send me a pm and please don't do anything stupid! I feel you 8 yrs ago I could barely walk and thought I was dead from this drug, if anyone can come back, survive then so can you! hang in there my friend
14 hours ago, yetanotheraccutanevictim said:I believe most people here should be on 1-2 mg of lithium daily. I personally take 5 mg per day. Lithium Orotate.
It's naturally found in water in those amounts.5-20 mg is necessary to overcome a deficiency, which I feel most of us have.
It greatly improves depression by serotonin production increasing.
what effect does lithium have on brain chemicals? I think its often used for bi polar disorder.
9 hours ago, oli girl said:9 hours ago, cnb30 said:Can we all take a step back and realize that were permanently screwed. No amount of pills or supplements of therapy is going to fix us. We might as well just accept the void and go down, and possibly take down big pharma with us.
I'm at one of those points where I just realized just how much I've been damaged and realize I'm hopelessly fucked and could honestly go for watching the world burn. Why is Accutane even fucking legal?
Cnb30- I have skimmed through your posts....send me a pm and please don't do anything stupid! I feel you 8 yrs ago I could barely walk and thought I was dead from this drug, if anyone can come back, survive then so can you! hang in there my friend
i was there too. But I'm glad to still be here.
10 hours ago, snowpup949 said:Hey everyone, I've been following this thread on and off, and I've read through a lot of your posts. Thank you to everyone who shared their stories and tibits, I felt alone and confused about it all for so long until I discovered others had nearly identical experiences. Figured I could share my story and join the convo.
I took Accutane when I was 16 (in 2010). I guess I blocked out the experience, because I don't even remember how long I took it, but I know I suffered from mood swings, depression, and face redness while taking it. My acne cleared up, but the side effects stuck around once I stopped the drug.
Anyway, I started taking Lexapro in May of 2014 for my depression and anxiety. Later that year, I started having severe neck pain and tension headaches, so I stopped taking the Lexapro in December under the assumption that it was the culprit. Well the pain persisted, so I visited a TMJ doctor. They gave me a retainer and "realigned my jaw," which I was sure would stop the pain, but it didn't. I eat a balanced diet (I'm a Dietetics major), exercise, stretch, and get massages multiple times a month. Nothing helps.
In December of 2016, I stopped birth control, which was the only medication I was still taking, because I was experiencing crying spells and extreme emotional lows, and I was sure the BC was the culprit. Sure enough, I feel closer to normal emotionally than I have since I started birth control at age 16, but my acne came back full-fledged. So now I am back where I started, with the painful cystic acne, and now a concoction of GI Problems, Severe Neck and Back Pain, Brain Fog, and Lethargy to go along with it.
I'm going to the doctor on August 4th to get blood work, x-rays, and a referral to a GI specialist. Any advice on what to tell my GP?
Thanks for reading!
hi, make sure to tell the Dr about any foods that seem to make your issues worse, aside from taking accutane. Mention the mood changes and lethargy. Have you tried an elimination diet? Basically cut out all foods you suspect of making your symptoms worse...dairy, grains especially wheat, soy, eggs, caffeine etc. Eat really bland like sweet potatoes and cooked veggies and chicken and slowly add each food back in one at a time to see if you react. It may be digestive upset or hives or brain fog/ lethargy. Keep a journal maybe.
As for acne, I hesitate to recommend any more meds just now. Try anti inflammatories and zinc. I've been taking chelated zinc and its cut down on inflammation a lot. And try tart cherry juice.
For fixing GI issues, take probiotics, gelatin bone broth and work on fixing gut permeability. It can often be improved!
Good luck, having all these issues sucks.
I concur.
On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Dubya_B said:Hi Soldier. Just wondered if you have continued the saw palmetto treatment and still seeing benefits?
I stopped taking after about a week. It began to make sexual side effects worse. I'd notice a slight rebound when I hadn't taken a pill in awhile so I just abandoned it.
right now I'm focusing on dopamine. Last few days I've been taking l- tyrosine and that's really helped with my feelings of hopelessness. Sexual side effects improving too. My l-dopa just arrived in the mail today too. I took a pill of that about an hour ago and it seems to be more potent than tyrosine. Penis doesnt feel detached right now which is great
20 minutes ago, QuietSoldier said:I stopped taking after about a week. It began to make sexual side effects worse. I'd notice a slight rebound when I hadn't taken a pill in awhile so I just abandoned it.right now I'm focusing on dopamine. Last few days I've been taking l- tyrosine and that's really helped with my feelings of hopelessness. Sexual side effects improving too. My l-dopa just arrived in the mail today too. I took a pill of that about an hour ago and it seems to be more potent than tyrosine. Penis doesnt feel detached right now which is great
I hadalso tested l-dopa for about one year ago. It was the plant mucuna pruriens which contains 25% l-dopa.
16 hours ago, snowpup949 said:Hey everyone, I've been following this thread on and off, and I've read through a lot of your posts. Thank you to everyone who shared their stories and tibits, I felt alone and confused about it all for so long until I discovered others had nearly identical experiences. Figured I could share my story and join the convo.
I took Accutane when I was 16 (in 2010). I guess I blocked out the experience, because I don't even remember how long I took it, but I know I suffered from mood swings, depression, and face redness while taking it. My acne cleared up, but the side effects stuck around once I stopped the drug.
Anyway, I started taking Lexapro in May of 2014 for my depression and anxiety. Later that year, I started having severe neck pain and tension headaches, so I stopped taking the Lexapro in December under the assumption that it was the culprit. Well the pain persisted, so I visited a TMJ doctor. They gave me a retainer and "realigned my jaw," which I was sure would stop the pain, but it didn't. I eat a balanced diet (I'm a Dietetics major), exercise, stretch, and get massages multiple times a month. Nothing helps.
In December of 2016, I stopped birth control, which was the only medication I was still taking, because I was experiencing crying spells and extreme emotional lows, and I was sure the BC was the culprit. Sure enough, I feel closer to normal emotionally than I have since I started birth control at age 16, but my acne came back full-fledged. So now I am back where I started, with the painful cystic acne, and now a concoction of GI Problems, Severe Neck and Back Pain, Brain Fog, and Lethargy to go along with it.
I'm going to the doctor on August 4th to get blood work, x-rays, and a referral to a GI specialist. Any advice on what to tell my GP?
Thanks for reading!
You probably got the TMJ from the accutane. Not the ssri. I have it too. Luckily, no pain. just a constant popping and clicking. The accutane dries out the joitns.
51 minutes ago, cnb30 said:Has anyone with the libido problem been able to overcome it. This is one of many things that tempt me to die on a regular basis
A handful of people have been able to overcome that issue; however, the way which people got to "normalcy" again varies a lot. Some people just recover over time, some people got better by taking RSO or CBD oil, others were able to get better by fixing their diet, and the list continues. So yes people have overcome it, but there is no definitive way of getting there from the looks of it.
Hi
just wanted to add my 3 cents.
My only side is no libido and poor/unreliable erections.
Did a gut bacteria test, below what they found. Contrary to a few propecia guys my e coli levels are fine.
http://imgur.com/a/LDMpp
http://imgur.com/a/6jZjo
One of the reason of eleveted sIgA could be my allergy to eggs which was found by an expensive test I did lately and I used to eat around 9 per day. Previous allergic panels showed eggs are okay...
For a few weeks took VSL3/Vivomixx which in the beginning seemed to be somewhat beneficial. Since 10 days I'm on AKUPRO by Akuna but it seems I'm getting worse (no morning wood, poor erections).
Any ideas?
4 hours ago, cnb30 said:Has anyone with the libido problem been able to overcome it. This is one of many things that tempt me to die on a regular basis
Yes it sucks but being dead isn't great either.
Try a PMO reboot for Atleast 6 months. Perhaps take some dl-phenylalanine and egcg as I beleive it can rebuild dopamine pathways. That should get your libido back. But it has to be a commitment.
And yeah i recovered my libido and ed. As for personality, that can come back with increased vitality, gym can help. I'm on a nutrional balancing program and that's helped.
On 7/23/2016 at 3:52 PM, Dubya_B said:AcneScience, that is totally incorrect about the manufacturer going out of business.
They made tens, or possibly hundreds, of billions on the drug and only lost tens of millions in lawsuits. They changed their company name to Genentech in the US and their US patent simply expired, so they discontinued Accutane in the US under pressure from generics sales (whose manufacturers are not liable under US law). It is still sold in Europe under the name roaccutane. They ruined our lives and got away with it.
And the side effect warnings can get shoved up the dermatologists asses for all it matters. The list of adverse events associated with Accutane is incomplete and does not warn of the permanency of the damage done. Many dermatologists will flat-out deny certain side effects are possible and give you the swift kick out of their office. They are tools with prescription pads.
Ps: Patients are absolutely not entitled to make a decision based on side effect warnings. This is the doctor's job. Total gray area, but don't place the blame on us.
Q: How do you stump a dermatologist?
A: Ask them how Accutane works.
They will either tell you its mechanism of action is not understood, or they will make up some bullshit that sounds plausible in their minds and to the ears of a common patient. All of the ill effects of Accutane simply cannot be measured in blood tests.
I never knew that and I thought I've searched deeply within the history. Wellshit.You're right, there's so many side effects I had that weren't even on the label of the side effects label. But again, it shows that you should really be listening to your body whenever you're on any drug of that magnitude.