42 minutes ago, Gladiatoro said:

I don't think saw palmetto is a good idea although I must say I used this herb once before and I had amazing hair growth . It is however a potent DHT blocker and I remember years ago I argued with this guy z28 as he was dead set against its use after TAN.

Heard an aussie guy speaking to a doctor on youtube. Completely impotent! He was academic and a high performing athlete with a basketball scholarship in the US. He never managed to get through his first year of study - saw palametto completely destroyed him.

There is some speculation that this syndrome particularly targets high performers. Maybe because they are more physically active, maybe because the are highly in tune with their bodies and notice it more. Could be because their hormones are highly tuned and therefore can't cope with drastic
changes brought on by said drugs.
Message is clear though - avoid at all cost and spread the word.
Anyone ever fancy doing media - I never once saw anyone talk about accutane on TV.
I remember seeing that Paul guy (PFS) on 'This Morning' UK. I was horrified. We need to get the word out there about accutane.

42 minutes ago, Gladiatoro said:

I don't think saw palmetto is a good idea although I must say I used this herb once before and I had amazing hair growth . It is however a potent DHT blocker and I remember years ago I argued with this guy z28 as he was dead set against its use after TAN.

Heard an aussie guy speaking to a doctor on youtube. Completely impotent! He was academic and a high performing athlete with a basketball scholarship in the US. He never managed to get through his first year of study - saw palametto completely destroyed him.

There is some speculation that this syndrome particularly targets high performers. Maybe because they are more physically active, maybe because the are highly in tune with their bodies and notice it more. Could be because their hormones are highly tuned and therefore can't cope with drastic
changes brought on by said drugs.
Message is clear though - avoid at all cost and spread the word.
Anyone ever fancy doing media - I never once saw anyone talk about accutane on TV.
I remember seeing that Paul guy (PFS) on 'This Morning' UK. I was horrified. We need to get the word out there about accutane.

Took a pill of saw palmetto this afternoon, and within 30 minutes noticed a change. Penis felt alive again. Not 100% probably but 50-75%. It seems like taking any 5ar inhibitor is a terrible idea for normal, healthy people. But what if it's a situation where if you do it once (accutane), you need to do it twice to counteract the damage? Seems unusual but the idea of a lack of DHT upregualating receptors makes sense

12 minutes ago, eph95 said:

Every few months I come back to this thread to take a look and see how people are doing. And it's quite sad to see, but the majority of people are wasting their time and going the wrong way about it. If you want to cure your Isotretinoin side effects, it's actually quite simple. I see so many people, talking about different theories on how Isotretinoin causes negative side effects and health issues after ceasing the drug. I am quite shocked to see people are actually still talking about DHT levels and how this is one of the mechanisms by which Isotretinoin damages the body. There is also the copper theory, amongst many others. But everyone is wrong! People seem to over complicate things.

if you really want to cure your depression, suicidal thoughts, mood swings, erectile dysfunction, low libido, fatigue and all the rest then please. Don't listen to most people on this thread.

the key to repairing the chemotherapy damage from Isotretinoin. Is by addressing your gut. The way accutane causes all these health problems is because it is a very powerful agent, it wipes out all the bacteria in your gut (that's the good bacteria too). You need to replenish your healthy gut flora. There is a Reason why the gut is called "the second brain", it's because it produces 90% of the bodies serotonin. Isotretinoin also weakens the gut lining and causes cripplingcandidiasis. The only way to cure yourself is to take a combination of natural antifungals and probiotics . If anyone wants any more info then email me henthornedward@yahoo.co.uk

have a good day everyone and don't give up.

Cheers,

ed, Oxford,United Kingdom.

Wild oil of oregano is an excellent anti fungal new roots is the best I found.

14 minutes ago, eph95 said:

Every few months I come back to this thread to take a look and see how people are doing. And it's quite sad to see, but the majority of people are wasting their time and going the wrong way about it. If you want to cure your Isotretinoin side effects, it's actually quite simple. I see so many people, talking about different theories on how Isotretinoin causes negative side effects and health issues after ceasing the drug. I am quite shocked to see people are actually still talking about DHT levels and how this is one of the mechanisms by which Isotretinoin damages the body. There is also the copper theory, amongst many others. But everyone is wrong! People seem to over complicate things.

if you really want to cure your depression, suicidal thoughts, mood swings, erectile dysfunction, low libido, fatigue and all the rest then please. Don't listen to most people on this thread.

the key to repairing the chemotherapy damage from Isotretinoin. Is by addressing your gut. The way accutane causes all these health problems is because it is a very powerful agent, it wipes out all the bacteria in your gut (that's the good bacteria too). You need to replenish your healthy gut flora. There is a Reason why the gut is called "the second brain", it's because it produces 90% of the bodies serotonin. Isotretinoin also weakens the gut lining and causes cripplingcandidiasis. The only way to cure yourself is to take a combination of natural antifungals and probiotics . If anyone wants any more info then email me henthornedward@yahoo.co.uk

have a good day everyone and don't give up.

Cheers,

ed, Oxford,United Kingdom.

So can you explain specifically what you've done to resolve your issues so everyone can read it?

A number of people (including myself) have focused on improving gut flora, but I'm not aware of anyone whose managed to fully reverse their side effects via this method. There were some encouraging signs over on SolvePFS with one guy apparently reverting his sides, but it didn't last sadly.

2 hours ago, eph95 said:

Every few months I come back to this thread to take a look and see how people are doing. And it's quite sad to see, but the majority of people are wasting their time and going the wrong way about it. If you want to cure your Isotretinoin side effects, it's actually quite simple. I see so many people, talking about different theories on how Isotretinoin causes negative side effects and health issues after ceasing the drug. I am quite shocked to see people are actually still talking about DHT levels and how this is one of the mechanisms by which Isotretinoin damages the body. There is also the copper theory, amongst many others. But everyone is wrong! People seem to over complicate things.

if you really want to cure your depression, suicidal thoughts, mood swings, erectile dysfunction, low libido, fatigue and all the rest then please. Don't listen to most people on this thread.

the key to repairing the chemotherapy damage from Isotretinoin. Is by addressing your gut. The way accutane causes all these health problems is because it is a very powerful agent, it wipes out all the bacteria in your gut (that's the good bacteria too). You need to replenish your healthy gut flora. There is a Reason why the gut is called "the second brain", it's because it produces 90% of the bodies serotonin. Isotretinoin also weakens the gut lining and causes cripplingcandidiasis. The only way to cure yourself is to take a combination of natural antifungals and probiotics . If anyone wants any more info then email me henthornedward@yahoo.co.uk

have a good day everyone and don't give up.

Cheers,

ed, Oxford,United Kingdom.

As if we haven't talked about gut health and anti fungal issues on here before - gets brought up all the time!!

Post your procedure and what products you've used etc otherwise you're no help.

Are you fully cured with floaters disappeared, oil in skin again, no stiffness in body, full healthy hair etc ????

14 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:

As if we haven't talked about gut health and anti fungal issues on here before - gets brought up all the time!!

Post your procedure and what products you've used etc otherwise you're no help.

Are you fully cured with floaters disappeared, oil in skin again, no stiffness in body, full healthy hair etc ????

Can you please be nice. Ed is obviously willing to answer questions so don't get his back up!

7 hours ago, QuietSoldier said:

Another doctor (Doctor Pezzi) used to fin to cure himself, and this was after he was suffering from Accutane sexual dysfunction. Taking accutane again scares me because of what a megadose of retinoic can do to the body, but I really think this theory of desensitized ARs is the truth.

lm gonna test it out as best I can. Like I said, I still have leftover accutane, but I'd prefer getting my hands on some fin to test this out. I also have saw palmetto, but it's not as potent as a real drug so idk if it'd work as well. What if I took a 5ar inhibitor for like a month, and then after stopping hit my body with some proviron?

I would not in any way take anymore Accutane my friend. There are a few who have self medicated with Accutane and have come out real bad.

Hello everyone. First and foremost i would like to say to anyone considering ACCUTANE, please please please DO NOT put yourself through the hell many of us face on a daily basis. It is a toxic poison and NOTHING else. I would have gladly done many things rather than have taken this. But here i am along with many others and it is now just a part of my life which i have accepted. I'll never accept what was done to us was right, but moving forward, i have found some hope. Staying strictly on the topic of health, i have found things that have given me hope after dealing with this for 6~ years now. I also want to thank everyone for staying strong and working together to live a better life despite our circumstances. I am not as smart as a lot of you in scientific research but with simple ideas and trials some things have begun to help me.

First I'd like to mention I've been using Cannabis on and off for a few years and it has certainly provided some benefit. Maybe 4 years back i quite clearly remember my condition being much worse especially mentally. Very quickly did it help my mind improve from some damage. Before going any further i would like to mention my take on this whole thing. I don't mean to sound ignorant but as we know nobody knows the "exact mechanism" of how this poison damaged us. To me it is quite simple. Accutane aka Isotretinoin is chemotherapy designed for "Brain cancer"......

What does Chemotherapy do? IT kills cells it comes in contact with, which was quite a few for us after ingesting this for months. It doesn't take much of a brain to understand what has happened. I signed up for an acne cure not poison. ( Anyone with Acne or any personal issue for that matter please just learn to love yourself for who you are and find natural ways to cope or fix the issue. Spend the summer in the ocean and sunlight and see what a difference that makes to your skin...) Eat a healthy diet and do your best. I would trade back to the old me in a heartbeat. Funny thing is this poison didn't even get rid of my acne. 
 
Now basic science tells you a cell contains DNA, which we obviously had a lot damaged. I recently Began ingesting hemp seed and research says it repairs DNA! Could this be true? So far i feel as though it is actually working. 

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Hemp Repairs Damaged DNA

Where do you get Hemp seeds from??

Pls list a brand - a good source?. I moved away from trying anything "hemp related" as it was too hard to obtain, unless things have changed in last couple of years!?

You're not talking about the "cannabis oil" that's still illegal in most places are you? ( I'm in Aust )

Thx for sharing your news

Yeah and to say "It's quite simple" and "people seem to over complicate things" would mean that you've cured Accutane victims in the past - you must of cured quite a few people to say "It's simple".

If that's the case - really looking forward to hearing how you've done this??

I really hope you have more up your sleeve other than - take a probiotic and use oil of oregano to treat fungal issues!!

looking forward to your response....

My friend has severeCrohn's disease and had his entire colon removed. Yet as a perfect life compared to us. His gut flora is totally fucked.

Candida does not cause this shit. Please stop this bullshit. However it is true that improving biochemistry could help our bodies heal the damage.

Some people might have candida as a RESULT of the new post Accutane environment but it certainly does not cause the severity of some of the symptoms. For example Literal zero libido even on high doses of androgens, which is the experience of many with post accutane libido loss.

Unfortunately cannabis oil is not super cure for no libido. Now we hear about 5ar inhibitor. Sounds interesting but horribly as well.
It is easy to check and try any 5ar inhibitor (finasteride, saw palmetto, willow herb, black cohosh) but who is so brave to try?

1 hour ago, Kokodu said:

Unfortunately cannabis oil is not super cure for no libido. Now we hear about 5ar inhibitor. Sounds interesting but horribly as well.
It is easy to check and try any 5ar inhibitor (finasteride, saw palmetto, willow herb, black cohosh) but who is so brave to try?

Took one pill of saw palmetto yesterday and woke up with morning wood today. Havent had morning wood since briefly after getting off accutane. This theory is legit. My only concern now is if I take a 5ar inhibitor for a period of time, will I be able to quit and have my receptors remain working, or will they crash like they did post-tane?

2 hours ago, QuietSoldier said:

Took one pill of saw palmetto yesterday and woke up with morning wood today. Havent had morning wood since briefly after getting off accutane. This theory is legit. My only concern now is if I take a 5ar inhibitor for a period of time, will I be able to quit and have my receptors remain working, or will they crash like they did post-tane?

Let us know how it works out if you take more in the future .

This is a list with some supplement mentioned in the last 50-100 page, we do a little clarity, wich make sense?

taurine
l-dopamine
dhea
tyrosine
iodine
niacine
probiotic
vit c
msm
cysteine
glutation
selenium
tribulus
wormwood
wallnut

I believe alot of us are dealing with gut issues. This can have a profound effect on health by itself. There is obviously a cause and effect here. the exact cause I still dont think we know at this point. As far as supplements ive mentioned this before, I've bought hundreds of supplements over the years, and there is not one I would wholeheartedly recommend to take on a daily basis or any supplements Im still taking to this day myself. I think though when it comes to supplements maybe the most helpful would be those that lower inflammation or assist with gut health. if our guts still Fd then taking any additional supplements doesnt make alot of sense to me and could probably just cause more problems. 
       I am atm wondering about proteins, or malabsorption of proteins and fats. 
       That study I posted showed how quick accutane was to modify proteins in just the span of one week.
anyway, here is alot of info on gut health, mainly SIBO that multiple people have been diagnosed with on this thread from a breath test.

Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO)

• Written By: Steven Horne, Thomas Easley
• Categorized in: Specific Health Problems

There™s a lot of talk these days about the importance of friendly bacteria to the gastrointestinal tract. Intestinal microflora, also called friendly flora or probiotics, play a role in regulating the immune system and keeping the colon healthy. However, most of the bacteria in your intestines should be in your colon or large intestines, not your small intestines.

When abnormally large numbers of bacteria (even friendly bacteria) start growing in the small intestines, they actually cause problems with your health. Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO) is a condition where abnormally large numbers of bacteria are present in the small intestines.

These bacteria feed off of sugars and starches in the diet (both refined sugars and natural sugars) and produce methane and hydrogen gas. They also inhibit the enzymes in the small intestines that breakdown starches into simple for absorption. This can result in abdominal bloating, belching and/or flatulence (intestinal gas), especially when you eat grains and other complex carbohydrates. The gases produced by these bacteria can also cause abdominal pain, intestinal cramping, and IBS with constipation and/or diarrhea.

Gas pressure in the small intestines can push upwards against the stomach, contributing to the development of a hiatal hernia and causing heartburn, acid reflux, GERD and nausea.

SIBO increase a hormone called zonulin causing an increase in small intestinal permeability (akaleaky gut syndrome), which results in the intestines absorbing large molecules they shouldn™t. The bacteria also like to gobble up essential nutrients like fats, iron and vitamin B-12. The nutrient deficiencies from SIBO along with the absorption of large protein molecules can cause problems with the immune system, and can contribute to allergies, asthma and autoimmune disorders, and a general decline in health.

SIBO has wide ranging implications and may be a cause or a major factor in all of the following diseases: acne rosacea, acne vulgaris, acromegaly, anemia, autism, celiac disease, CLL (chronic lymphocytic leukemia), cystic fibrosis, chronic fatigue syndrome, diabetes, diverticulitis, erosive esophagitis, fibromyalgia, gastroparesis, GERD (gastroesophageal reflux disease), H. pylori infection, hypochlorhydria (low stomach acid), hypothyroid/hashimoto's throiditis, IBD (inflammatory bowel disease) such as Crohn™s and ulcerative colitis, IBS (irritable bowel syndrome), interstitial cystitis, lactose intolerance, liver cirrhosis, lyme disease, malabsorption syndrome, muscular dystrophy (myotonic type 1), NASH/ NAFLD (non-alcoholic steatohepatitis/non-alcoholic fatty liver disease), obesity, pancreatitis, parasites, Parkinson's, prostatitis (chronic), rheumatoid arthritis and scleroderma (systemic sclerosis). Please note, this does NOT mean that SIBO causes all these diseases, it just means that it may be a contributing factor or may accompany these conditions.

Other clues that SIBO may be a problem include having better bowel movements after taking antibiotics and having bowel problems get worse when taking probiotics or fiber. If bowel problems began after using opiates for pain, this is another clue that SIBO may be a factor.

Do You Have SIBO?

Experts in SIBO have estimated that about 35-50% of the general public has this problem. Unfortunately, it is not widely understood and hence, is not properly diagnosed. Many people who have SIBO think they have a Candida or yeast infection. However, while yeast overgrowth can occur with or without SIBO, Candida is often overdiagnosed and SIBO is underdiagnosed. Fortunately, the protocols are similar, but the treatment is different enough that people with SIBO may not respond well to a Candida or yeast program and be discouraged by the lack of results.

Medical diagnosis of SIBO is difficult because it is hard to get a culture from the small intestines. There are tests involving collecting breath samples from patients that drink either glucose or lactulose. The lactulose test is the most accurate. These tests must be ordered by a physician.

However, you can also assess this condition fairly accurately by symptoms. If you have an auto-immune disorder, pain in multiple joints, chronic allergies, chronic skin conditions, chronic fatigue or depression or general malaise (just don™t feel good) you may have leaky gut. When you have symptoms of leaky gut coupled with chronic diarrhea or constipation, regular abdominal pain, IBS, bloating or belching after meals, GERD and/or regular indigestion, you may have SIBO.

What Causes SIBO?

There are several major factors that contribute to the development of SIBO. The first is a lack of hydrochloric acid (HCl) in the stomach. HCl helps the body digest proteins, but it also helps to kill bacteria in the food we eat and prevent them from colonizing the small intestines.

A second factor is a lack of intestinal motility. In between meals migrating motor complexes (MMCs) sweep down the intestines, helping to flush bacteria. These movements of the small intestine are what are responsible for what we call hunger pains, the œrumblings we feel in our gut when we haven™t eaten in a while. These MMCs may be damaged by surgery, intestinal scarring, various diseases, intestinal infections and by certain drugs. Medications that can inhibit these intestinal movements include antibiotics, proton pump inhibitors, antacids and opiates (pain killers) like morphine.

Stress can be a factor in both low hydrochloric acid and the lack of intestinal motility as the sympathetic nervous system (responsible for the fight or flight response) inhibits both digestive secretion and intestinal motility. When we are relaxed, the parasympathetic nervous system is more active and digestion and intestinal motility is enhanced. Unfortunately, many people in our society are eating on the run and do not take time to relax, chew their food thoroughly and enjoy their meals.

A final factor in SIBO is a malfunctiong ileocecal valve. This valve is between the small and large intestines and is designed to prevent backflow (that is, to keep material in the large intestine from migrating back into the small intestine. When this valve is not shutting properly, intestinal bacteria migrate from the colon into the small intestine causing gas, bloating and general weakness and malaise.

Here are seven things you can do to overcome SIBO. Many of these things are also done for leaky gut.

Step One: Remove food and chemical irritants

Dietary adjustments are essential to overcoming both SIBO and leaky gut. It is absolutely essential to eliminate all refined sugars from the diet and most starchy foods. At the least one should eliminate all grains containing gluten (wheat, rye, barley), but eliminating all grains may be required.

Dairy may also be problematic because the bacteria love to feast on the sugar in dairy, lactose. . Goat milk products and cultured dairy foods can be beneficial for some people, yet other people may have to eliminate all dairy foods.

Fermented foods are generally helpful for SIBO. These are discussed under Step Six: Restore beneficial bacteria.

There are three dietary programs that may be helpful, depending on the severity of the problem. These are the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD), the Gut and Psychology Syndrome (GAPS) diet and the Paleo diet. Resources on all three of these diets can be found at the end of this article. These diets are also discussed in a webinar we did on this topic, which will be available for purchase on this website.

Step Two: Stimulate production of and/or supplement stomach acid and enzymes

There are two ways to increase stomach acid and enzymes. One is to take supplements and the other is to take herbs and nutrients that stimulate their production. With SIBO it is normally necessary to do both.

To determine how much Betaine HCl one needs you can do a hydrochloric acid challenge test. Note: do not perform this test if you have an active ulcer or a history of ulcers.

To do the test, take a 400-500 mg. capsule of Bentaine HCl with pepsin prior to a meal. If you notice no burning, you increase to two capsules the next meal. Proceed until you notice a mild burning sensation, then immediately reduce your dose to the number of capsules that preceded the burning or heat sensation. Most people find a comfortable dose between 400 and 1500 mg per meal (2-3 capsules).

If one or two capsules causes burning, you either don™t have low stomach acid or your reflux is so severe that you won™t be able to take HCL until you get it under control. Also, remember that the more protein you eat at a meal, the greater the need for HCl, so you can vary the dose with the size and content of your meals. Also, if you have severe digestive problems, you may also wish to take a complete food enzyme that has HCl and pancreatic enzymes.

Within 3-6 months most people feel a warmth in their stomach with the same dose they have been taking. When this happens it is time to decrease your dose and start weaning off of Betaine HCl.

You can also use digestive bitters to stimulate digestive secretions. Bitters not only stimulate HCl secretion, they also stimulate pancreatic enzymes and bile from the gallbladder and tend to be mildly antibacterial as well. Bitters should be taken 15-20 minutes prior to meals with one to two large glasses of water. A small pinch of a natural salt can also be taken at the same time, as this also helps stimulate HCl production by providing chloride.

Digestive bitters formulas to consider include:

• Angostura bitters
• Swedish Bitters (Gaia)
• Organic Bitters (Urban Moonshine)
• Digestive Bitters (Herb Pharm)
• Bitters Compound (Herbalist & Alchemist,)
• Digestive Grape Bitters (Planetary Formulas)

Bitters are contraindicated if you have digestive atrophy. So, if you have dry mucus membranes, as evidenced by a dry and withered (or shriveled) looking tongue, don™t take bitters as they dry the mucus membranes.

A lack of HCl may also be due to a lack of the following nutrients: chloride (low serum levels), zinc and thiamine. These are primary nutritional factors required for the synthesis of hydrochloric acid.

Step Three: Improve intestinal motility (if necessary)

With SIBO it is also important to make certain that there is good intestinal motility between meals to flush the intestines and clear out bacteria. One way to do this is to allow adequate time between meals. Depending on the efficiency of your digestion, you need three and five hour between meals. Ideally, you should wait until you get stomach rumblings indicating your digestive tract is clear before eating the next meal.

If motility is slow there are some supplements that may be helpful. All carminatives increase digestive motility, and many people find that a cup of ginger tea is most helpful. You can also try taking 100 mg of 5-HTP twice daily or MotilPro from Pure Encapsulations (two capsules twice daily). If improvement isn™t noted after two weeks, add 6 mg. of melatonin before bed and three capsules of Methyl Guard (Thorne) twice daily.

Step Four: Close the ileocecal valve (if necessary)

If there is severe gas and bloating, you probably need to work on the ileocecal valve. This is done by massaging the valve to reduce swelling and inflammation and get it to close properly. The ileocecal valve is located on the lower right side of the abdomen, midway between the belly button and the right hip bones as illustrated. Check the circled area shown in the picture to see if there is any swelling or tenderness in that area. If there is, massage the area a couple of times a day until the swelling and tenderness go away.

This is demonstrated in Steven™s video on techniques for self-correction of a hiatal hernia.

Step Five: Reduce bacterial overgrowth

If a person has signs of SIBO, they will need to take some supplements to reduce bacterial overgrowth in the small intestines. This can be done with pharmaceutical antibiotics or herbal antibacterial agents.

For starters, one can take a digestive bitters blend with antibacterial herbs in it, instead of just plain digestive bitters. Here are a few examples:

• AF Compound (Herbalist & Alchemist)
• Fungus Fighter Compound (Herb Pharm)
• Wormwood, Black Walnut Supreme (Gaia)

Another great remedy is enteric coated peppermint oil. Take one capsule with three meals each day for about 20 days. In clinical trials this was shown to cause a 25-50% reduction in small intestinal bacteria.

Garlic is another possible antimicrobial agent, but if friendly lacto bacteria are overpopulating the small intestines, it won™t work. It does kill gram negative bacteria. The best way to take it is to chop up or crush fresh garlic, then mix it with a teaspoon of honey to make it easier to take. Encapsulated garlic products are generally ineffective.

Cinnamon kills both lactic acid bacteria and yeast. It is much more active than peppermint. Use it when you are sensitive to taking probiotics. Take two capsules three times daily with meals.

Goldenseal may also be helpful. It not only reduces intestinal bacteria, it also tones up digestive membranes and reduces irritation. It does lower blood sugar levels, however. Take two capsules three times daily with meals.

Note: It is not necessary to take ALL of the above remedies. That would be overkill. Pick one or two only, depending on your circumstances and what™s available to you.

Step Six: Restore beneficial bacteria

All traditional cultures used some kind of cultured foods. Vegetables were commonly cultured, but so were fruits and dairy foods. Studies have shown that it takes 10 billion encapsulated bacteria to obtain the same value to the intestines that just 100 million bacteria from food will do. Furthermore, people with SIBO often do not do well on probiotic supplements, especially if they contain prebiotics which feed the small intestinal bacteria as well as friendly flora. The most well tolerated probiotic supplements are: Klaire labs Ther-biotic Complete, BioKult and Align.

Cultured vegetables are very valuable in treating SIBO and leaky gut. You can make your own cultured vegetables or you can purchase them from a health food store or some supermarkets. Here are some brands of naturally fermented vegetables:

• Bubbies
• It™s Alive
• King Asian Gourmet
• Dear Garden
• Pleasant Valley Farms
• Wild Brine

Making your own cultured vegetables is quite easy. Recipes for making cultured vegetables can be found in the materials from our Leaky Gut and SIBO webinar, online or from the book Nourishing Traditionsby Sally Fallon.

After eliminating dairy for six weeks, you can try slowly reintroducing cultured dairy products like yogurt and kefier and see if you tolerate them. Beyond Organic makes a cultured dairy beverage with over 30 probiotics in it called Amasi. It is made from milk free of A1 Beta-Casein.

Step Seven: Repair gut integrity

Since SIBO always causes leaky gut, it is important to rebuild the integrity of the intestinal membranes. One of the best ways to do this is by using bone broth. Bone broth is high in glutamine and glycine, both of which are essential in healing the gut. They are emphasized in both the SCD and GAPS diet. Drink 1-4 cups of bone broth daily. You can also use it to make soups. Recipes for bone broth can be found online or in Nourishing Traditions.

If you can™t take the bone broth, you can use l-glutamine, which can also be used along with bone broth. The best way to take it is to get l-glutamine powder and take 1 teaspoon three times daily mixed with food. Other remedies that help heal the gut include chamomile tea (one cup three times daily), deglycyrrhizinated licorice (2 capsules three times daily) and colostrum powder (Total Body Research Labs), one teaspoon twice daily. Kudzu/St. John™s wort and Spleen Activator from Nature™s Sunshine Products can also be helpful.

1 hour ago, Gladiatoro said:

3 hours ago, QuietSoldier said:

Took one pill of saw palmetto yesterday and woke up with morning wood today. Havent had morning wood since briefly after getting off accutane. This theory is legit. My only concern now is if I take a 5ar inhibitor for a period of time, will I be able to quit and have my receptors remain working, or will they crash like they did post-tane?

Let us know how it works out if you take more in the future .

I am interesting in your steps too.

17 hours ago, TrueJustice said:

Where do you get Hemp seeds from??

Pls list a brand - a good source?. I moved away from trying anything "hemp related" as it was too hard to obtain, unless things have changed in last couple of years!?

You're not talking about the "cannabis oil" that's still illegal in most places are you? ( I'm in Aust )

Thx for sharing your news

I know I explained this in a former post, but I'll clarify again because I think it is important.

You can buy hemp seeds on Amazon, and probably any health food store. They are fully legal. Cannabidiol is trickier. In America, you can legally buy cannabidiol in all fifty states. It is supposedly legal worldwide. However, very few plants/products contain substantial amounts of cannabidiol in them unless they also contain THC, and the THC is what makes the product illegal in many areas. Now, some vendors have bread their plants to be HIGH in cannabidiol and LOW in THC, which makes them legal. (Some vendors will lie, so you should request testing from anyone you buy from.) Cannabidiol can be sold as an extract, and it may be branded as hemp for legal purposes. Yes, this makes it confusing!

I recommend watching the Smart Drug Smarts special (Youtube) on cannabidiol to learn more about all of its medical properties. Regular hemp does not have the same qualities. I am going to take a chance on an internet vendor and purchase some, as I live in New York where THC is illegal and cannabidiol is legal.

ALA is alpha lipoic acid
The results of the present study indicated that injecting Cu- intoxicated rats with ALA significantly reduced serum copper. Moreover, whereas injecting these rats with Vito E significantly reduced liver copper. These results are supported by the findings of (Allergy Research Group, 2008), who reported that ALA is a powerful support for the detoxification processes of the liver since it reduced Pb- toxicity and excessive copper and increased cellular glutathione levels; and by the findings of (Packer et al. 1995). They indicated that ALA has been used for decades to protect the liver and to detoxify the body from heavy metal pollutants, further more concluded that ALA alone or together with Vito E is an effective treatment for lessening indices of oxidative damage and normalizing organ's functions.
ALA also increases bile flow

Most studies have shown that copper (Cu) induced hepatotoxicity in rats, and reported that free radicals may play a role in copper induced cell toxicity because of the powerful pro-oxidant action of its salts in vitro. They indicated that the resulting oxyradicals have the potential to damage cellular lipids, nucleic acids, proteins and carbohydrates, resulting in wide ranging impairment in cellular function and integrity (Britton, 1996).

Cell damaging free copper levels ref 10-15
Guitarman01 21
bobbyDigital 25
yetanotheraccutaneVictim 31
TTH 19,24,21

This is just whats in the blood.

On 7/1/2016 at 9:17 AM, Justmom said:

Speaking of cannabis, I've been trying to understand why anyone has had success with it, and all the brochures say that CBD is an anti-inflammatory.  Yet, no one has had success with CBD alone?  Seems like the success stories with RSO all involved 60 grams or so in 30 days.  My son B has not been able to tolerate 1/3 of that amount (taking it only in the evening) because of the THC content.  He has still had some success with it, though.  Enough that I see the potential, but I wonder if the THC really has anything beneficial to offer.  Has anyone here tried large amounts of CBD?  Like 40 mg or more per day?  

 

I have some input regarding the whole cannabis thing....
Some might remember my son B was having good success with the small doses of RSO, but couldn't tolerate the THC.  So right after the above comment, he switched to only CBD.  I'll attach, if I can, the brochure for the product he is using.  He says he is having just as much, if not more, success with the CBD only - more frequent morning erections, maybe other improvements also (I don't ask too many questions.  )  Anyway, because of its method of delivery, the product is said to pack the punch of 40 mg of CBD when it actually only contains 4 mg.  It is legal in all 50 states - no THC at all.  Tastes just like plain water.  Makes for deeper sleep also.  

I'm also going to try to attach a brochure that shows the benefits of each of several cannabidiols.  It shows CBD is an anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory, immunosuppressive.  Maybe the reason it helps is it does all those things at once. 

Instead of attaching the CBD water brochure, I'll just give the link:
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It's about $7 per bottle.  My son is taking 1/2 bottle morning, 1/2 bottle evening.  I've seen cheaper, but I don't think they claim to have the nano sized particles that they claim cross the cell walls.  I think I'm a believer, but you scientifically thinking guys can burst my bubble if you need to. 

Regarding obtaining medical marijuana, I agree with an earlier poster who said you have to be careful.  I did lots of online research and phone calls before I decided on a brand of RSO, but I think I got a good one.  RSO here in colorado is pricey - about $25/gram.  The success stories used 60 grams in 30 days.  B had erections after about 10 grams, after no erections for 6 months or so. 

I've seen stories on the internet of RSO curing liver problems, so I'm hoping that his bilirubin number and HDL will be back in range after the RSO he took and a month or so on the CBD.

2 hours ago, ACCUiTy_drANE said:

I know I explained this in a former post, but I'll clarify again because I think it is important.

You can buy hemp seeds on Amazon, and probably any health food store. They are fully legal. Cannabidiol is trickier. In America, you can legally buy cannabidiol in all fifty states. It is supposedly legal worldwide. However, very few plants/products contain substantial amounts of cannabidiol in them unless they also contain THC, and the THC is what makes the product illegal in many areas. Now, some vendors have bread their plants to be HIGH in cannabidiol and LOW in THC, which makes them legal. (Some vendors will lie, so you should request testing from anyone you buy from.) Cannabidiol can be sold as an extract, and it may be branded as hemp for legal purposes. Yes, this makes it confusing!

I recommend watching the Smart Drug Smarts special (Youtube) on cannabidiol to learn more about all of its medical properties. Regular hemp does not have the same qualities. I am going to take a chance on an internet vendor and purchase some, as I live in New York where THC is illegal and cannabidiol is legal.

Thx for posting again. In the US you might be able to obtain Cannibas related products easier than in Aust. I did get to look up a local company and getting the seeds and oil is easy enough.

When I say oil though it's not that potent stuff you need to obtain illegally- it's just the oil you drizzle over salads etc. This isn't exactly going to smash my Accutane problems, not saying it's not beneficial to health but I could prob go and find 200 other products that do the same thing.

They real potent oil I'll wait till I've exhausted all other avenues before trying....if I can get it that is.

I may purchase some seeds - I think they mentioned them being high in Vit E so that might be a good thing.

4 hours ago, guitarman01 said:

ALA is alpha lipoic acid
The results of the present study indicated that injecting Cu- intoxicated rats with ALA significantly reduced serum copper. Moreover, whereas injecting these rats with Vito E significantly reduced liver copper. These results are supported by the findings of (Allergy Research Group, 2008), who reported that ALA is a powerful support for the detoxification processes of the liver since it reduced Pb- toxicity and excessive copper and increased cellular glutathione levels; and by the findings of (Packer et al. 1995). They indicated that ALA has been used for decades to protect the liver and to detoxify the body from heavy metal pollutants, further more concluded that ALA alone or together with Vito E is an effective treatment for lessening indices of oxidative damage and normalizing organ's functions.
ALA also increases bile flow

Most studies have shown that copper (Cu) induced hepatotoxicity in rats, and reported that free radicals may play a role in copper induced cell toxicity because of the powerful pro-oxidant action of its salts in vitro. They indicated that the resulting oxyradicals have the potential to damage cellular lipids, nucleic acids, proteins and carbohydrates, resulting in wide ranging impairment in cellular function and integrity (Britton, 1996).

Cell damaging free copper levels ref 10-15
Guitarman01 21
bobbyDigital 25
yetanotheraccutaneVictim 31
TTH 19,24,21

This is just whats in the blood.

Cutler protocol for mercury poisoning use ALA. But according to him ALA raise copper, or at least slightly prevent it's bilary elimination.
There is some people intoxicated with mercury who also has lot of "bad" copper, they speciallly see it after a "mobilization" test, some have incredibly high amount from what i saw years ago in mercury-intoxicated people forums, still don't understand how.

But anyway like always if there is too low or too much, it's bad to use chemicals like ALA, DMSA or others, better let the body do it himself by helping him to detox with herbs & hypotoxic diet.

On 7/8/2016 at 4:32 AM, blackfox01 said:

Does anyone know who this was?

this is textbook epigenetic. Recovery on withdrawl. Same thing happens in rat and monkey studies too. Also. Host of PSSD and PFS recovery came from withdrawing a compound that was interacting in the correct layer

"hello guys,

i would like to share my success story with you.I was suffering from chronic low libido which i am sure was caused by accutane.I experienced complete absence of sexual sensation on my genitals and as a result erectile dysfunction and difficulty having an orgasm.After i stopped taking accutane my symptoms strangely got worse as the time passed instead of improving.I tried various things to reverse my libido loss such as healthy diet,some drugs that were supposed to help improve libido, but nothing worked.I then found a report in the internet about dr. Pezzi who has written the book ''the science of sex'' and claimed that he reversed his libido loss caused by accutane by taking the drug finasteride.I was determined to find a solution to my problem so i decided to try it.I began taking 1mg/day and then slowly increased to 5mg/day.I took it for a total of 5 months.During that time i started experiencing a return of my acne which was accompanied by a small increase in libido and a slight return of sexual sensation.I continued taking it as long as i noticed some positive effects.The big surprise happened when i decided to stop taking the drug.I experienced a huge increase in libido,sexual sensation and acne.My spontaneous and morning erections which were gone since i had taken accutane came back and i no longer had problems reaching an orgasm.I don't know what exactly this drug did to my system but it worked.6 months have passed since i stopped taking finasteride and i still experience all the positive effects,so i believe the effects are permanent.I now feel like a normal man of my age(i am 28 years old).The only side effect i had was the return of acne but i believe that has to do with the return of my libido but i prefer having acne and a healthy libido than having no acne and no libido."

i would like to contact him.

I tried contacting him recently. No response yet. Remember those few stories from propeciahelp of temporary recovery from guys going back on finasteride? Interesting isn't it? Sort of falls in line with the theory of both silenced and over-expressed androgen receptor.
Think there have been a couple other folks comment in this thread that they cured Accutane-induced sexual dysfunction by taking fin.

The guy you quoted didn't actually follow Kevin Pezzi's recommendation from the sound of it though. Kevin Pezzi's method of treatment is to cycle finasteride. DImmer says he stayed on it for months. Dr. Pezzi's idea is to induce AR overexpression by reducing DHT, then stopping finasteride after a noticeable drop in libido. After stopping, DHT returns to baseline in an environment of overexpressed AR, causing a heightened androgenic signal leading to increased sexual function ...This same return of baseline DHT levels in an environment of overexpressed ARs is also the basis of the temporary recovery followed by a crash, according to the silenced androgen signal theory (awor's theory) of PFS.

I felt that same incredibly heightened libido, erectile function, and limitless energy after stopping during the couple weeks leading up to my crash after stopping Accutane.

Seems too much like rolling the dice again for me to try it. Getting almost desperate enough to try anything though.

Dear Acne.org Members,
I am stalking this thread for a couple of years. My story is simple. When I was teen I got prescirbed reoccutane(I live in Europe). I had some blackspots but no cyst. I used to have very beatifull skin. I was able to get really deep tan. (3 on scale)
I had a course of 50mg/day 11 months.
My sebum oil totaly stopped working. It does not produce any oil. Not even drop. It is 2,5years since the last pill.
My face is always red.
I came to States this summer on vacation. I got very serious cheeks burn. Actually it my first vacation after tane. I lost like 3 layers of the cheeks skin. And now it is more than month after that. I can cleary see the lines of the cheeks after sunburn.I am blonde guy, blue eyes, however I usually never gotsunburns before accutane. I am sure it is all because my skin do not produce any oil. What is more. Now i am always have some pink color on my hands and face(not very dark as it was before)
My question is: do anyone have experience with this. Do I have to believe that my skin can start produce oil or my skin is dead from inside?
MOST IMPORTANT Q: Do someone gottheir sebum back after accutane? I red a lot of post about dryness but is any really got their sebum back? At least few drops?

As mentioned before, the only thing I've had a lasting benefit from was taking Gingko Biloba and Ginseng taken daily for about 2-3 months, which are both DHT inhibitors.. Other things which have helped have only seemed to help slightly, or only for a period then it stops working.

The general consensus on this thread has been that DHT inhibitors are bad, based on the fact that accutane itself is a DHT inhibitor, so as a result nobody has ever really gone down this route, but it's definitely an interesting one.

Regarding Cannabis/Hemp, there is one person earlier on this thread who made a full recovery from cannabis oil, and 2 others who made partial recoveries, but also people who've found it hasn't helped. On paper CBD specifically looks like it could be of benefit, but I can't say ever noticed anything at all from it and I've taken plenty of hemp based CBD oils (both sourced from the Netherlands, and loads of RSHO oil which is concentrated CBD oil from hemp, and is available legally online [it's quite expensive though, quickly gets into thousands of dollars if you're taking it for a while], as well as hemp seed extract, hemp seed oil etc). For anyone in a region where cannabis oil (i.e. RSO with THC in) can be obtained legally I'd definitely give that a go based on the single complete recovery, and partial recoveries.

I'm currently looking at trying to improve methylation based on the recommendations for my specific 23andme results. This is something I've tried in the past, but I have a better knowledge of the subject now, as well as having my genetic testing results, so I think it's worth another go.

http://mthfrliving.com/health-tips/supplementing-for-mthfr-b12/

I did wonder for a time if people suffering from tane sides might all have the MTHFR gene defect, but I know of at least 2 others who've had 23andme tests and don't have this defect (I have one copy for C677T and 1298C), however that doesn't necessarily mean their methylation isn't impaired. Retonic acid has been shown to decrease methylation efficiency in a number of studies.

Also it ties in with people who are testing high for homocysteine (again, studies show this is raised after accutane 'treatment'). Check the above link for more info