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Also Anonyy, Given you've made it clear that you know a lot about physiology what do you think causes the excess sweating post accutane?
Also what might cause the light sensitivity and pressure in head?? Is this where you would recommend those Pituitary supplements combined with the detoxing you've already mentioned?
Thank you
I'd like to just politely advocate for some females who will likely not speaking up about this rather obnoxious side effect. But I'm sick of being invalidated for my symptoms not being SEVERE enough by SOME people from a limited more sexist perspective. Many women have suffered SEVERE dryness, loss of vaginal tone, and absolute lack of libido, including myself (I'm 28). THANKFULLY due to hard work detoxing, liver flushing, dietary changes, exercise,herbalists, naturopaths, massage, chiropractor, iodine, supplements, METHYLATION, etc. etc. and more hard work, therapy, ETC. I have been able to get some sensation back and work to obtain more pleasure during the act. So in fact DON'T ASSUME things about other people, and it's not just men who are effected by the drug. Being able to stand up out of bed and walk up stairs is more important to me, in my perspective. Also, CASE CLOSED.
http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm
Here's a very informative website on all things copper. Kind of holistic but still worth a look. All this stuff people have been doing for years with liver flushes, that cute little video we all saw that accutane is still in the body. Just replace that with Copper.
37 minutes ago, guitarman01 said:http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htmHere's a very informative website on all things copper. Kind of holistic but still worth a look. All this stuff people have been doing for years with liver flushes, that cute little video we all saw that accutane is still in the body. Just replace that with Copper.
Do you think we had a copper imbalance PRE Accutane?? And perhaps the Accutane made it worse!?
It is interesting the whole copper thing.
To the person who was trying to prove that their hair is now copper in colour - that's actually not that far fetched an observation, when I grow a beard I get copper bits randomly growing, to the point where family members have pointed this out to me.
No redheads in my family - we all have dark brown hair. Could be BS but that post did make me think!
I would say to everyone - don't give up on the cleansing ( Liver ) but at same time continue getting tests. I'm back seeing Dr on Wednesday so I'll be really pressing them on:
1. Their knowledge on treating Copper imbalance.
2. Further Copper testing after the Serum test I recently had done i.e where to from here?
9 hours ago, TrueJustice said:Also Anonyy, Given you've made it clear that you know a lot about physiology what do you think causes the excess sweating post accutane?
Also what might cause the light sensitivity and pressure in head?? Is this where you would recommend those Pituitary supplements combined with the detoxing you've already mentioned?
Thank you
When kidneys arent filtering properly, you eliminate via the skin (the "third kidney"). If you are toxic and not sweating, it's very bad, sweating is a sign you body still has some strenght, when you stop sweating it's low glandular function, specially thyroid (control temperature). There is a lot of lymph nodes under armpit (using antiperspirant, very bad idea by the way). After accutane if i remember i sweated too for 1-1.5years, after that total "shutdown", and dry skin like wood, then all symptoms magnified 10times.
Hello! I recently wrote my first post in this forum. I am from Spain and I am experiencing a very strange hair loss that I trully believe it was triggered after taking accutane (sorry for my english). I have read hundreds of posts but now I am so confused that I don't know how to begin with. I was thinking of doing liver flushing but I never thought about copper, dna, etc... I am not experiencing joint pains, or dry lips, or whatever. My symptoms are just hair loss and skin problems. My hair loss is diffuse and I lose hair all over my scalp (sides too). Sometimes i have very dry skin and sometimes my skin gets so freakin oily I can't believe it. Also, I am experiencing kinda inflammation pain and my face pores look so bad. I am not sure if accutane caused vision problems... I think state this could be a little hypochondriac because I can't prove it but sometimes I can not focus properly (I got my eyes tested few days ago and I am using glasess with appropiate lenses). So, I would like to know if anyone experienced this type of hair loss and what way should I take or what type of blood tests I should do. Sorry for my ignorance but so many technical terms made me so confused I don't know how to begin.
I can't believe we are all dealing with this same shit without a trace of damage. If we find out this was copper working behind the scenes the whole time and we could prove it. This could be a lawsuit in the billions. That's why I'm not letting this go just yet
2 hours ago, behindemusgo said:Hello! I recently wrote my first post in this forum. I am from Spain and I am experiencing a very strange hair loss that I trully believe it was triggered after taking accutane (sorry for my english). I have read hundreds of posts but now I am so confused that I don't know how to begin with. I was thinking of doing liver flushing but I never thought about copper, dna, etc... I am not experiencing joint pains, or dry lips, or whatever. My symptoms are just hair loss and skin problems. My hair loss is diffuse and I lose hair all over my scalp (sides too). Sometimes i have very dry skin and sometimes my skin gets so freakin oily I can't believe it. Also, I am experiencing kinda inflammation pain and my face pores look so bad. I am not sure if accutane caused vision problems... I think state this could be a little hypochondriac because I can't prove it but sometimes I can not focus properly (I got my eyes tested few days ago and I am using glasess with appropiate lenses). So, I would like to know if anyone experienced this type of hair loss and what way should I take or what type of blood tests I should do. Sorry for my ignorance but so many technical terms made me so confused I don't know how to begin.
Dosage?
17 hours ago, TrueJustice said:Also Anonyy, Given you've made it clear that you know a lot about physiology what do you think causes the excess sweating post accutane?
Also what might cause the light sensitivity and pressure in head?? Is this where you would recommend those Pituitary supplements combined with the detoxing you've already mentioned?
Thank you
excess sweating post tane is due to your oil glands being turned off. TEWL. the oil barrier to keep in moisture is lost.
1 hour ago, tryingtohelp2014 said:19 hours ago, TrueJustice said:Also Anonyy, Given you've made it clear that you know a lot about physiology what do you think causes the excess sweating post accutane?
Also what might cause the light sensitivity and pressure in head?? Is this where you would recommend those Pituitary supplements combined with the detoxing you've already mentioned?
Thank you
excess sweating post tane is due to your oil glands being turned off. TEWL. the oil barrier to keep in moisture is lost.
Ridiculous theory, if we can even call that a theory. Water is retained by minerals ions in every cells of the body.And not everybody has this excess sweating problem, some have the opposite.
Oil is used mainly as a protection, and it contains water so ofc it hydrates too, and you can't protect or eliminate without water (and "fatty" lymph system).
24 minutes ago, anonyy said:Ridiculous theory, if we can even call that a theory. Water is retained by minerals ions in every cells of the body.
Oil is used mainly as a protection, and it contains water so ofc it hydrates too, and you can't protect or eliminate without water (and "fatty" lymph system).
Dude you reallly REALLY need to start reading.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8534132
All-trans-retinoic acid, and its analogs, 13-cis-retinoic acid, 4-hydroxy-retinoic acid and 4-oxo-retinoic acid all caused epidermal thickening and increased TEWL
13 minutes ago, tryingtohelp2014 said:Dude you reallly REALLY need to start reading.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8534132
All-trans-retinoic acid, and its analogs, 13-cis-retinoic acid, 4-hydroxy-retinoic acid and 4-oxo-retinoic acid all caused epidermal thickening and increased TEWL
"transepidermal water loss"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transepidermal_water_loss
"In vivotransepidermal water lossstudies are characterized by large inter-individual variability and biased by environmental effects and eccrinesweating."
You should read too, it doesn't mean sweating. Sweating isn't limited to this "transepidermal water loss" thing. Sebum is part of that TEWL ofc but it's obv since it's meant to protect the skin, but it's different than sweating. You don't need accutane to sweat while doing sport, and when you are sick. The skin is a "major" (in the sense, the largest) eliminative organ, that's the main cause of acne by the way.
You should start trying to look for the truth, instead of your own theory of things.
53 minutes ago, anonyy said:"transepidermal water loss"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transepidermal_water_loss"In vivotransepidermal water lossstudies are characterized by large inter-individual variability and biased by environmental effects and eccrinesweating."
You should read too, it doesn't mean sweating. Sweating isn't limited to this "transepidermal water loss" thing. Sebum is part of that TEWL ofc but it's obv since it's meant to protect the skin, but it's different than sweating. You don't need accutane to sweat while doing sport, and when you are sick. The skin is a "major" (in the sense, the largest) eliminative organ, that's the main cause of acne by the way.
You should start trying to look for the truth, instead of your own theory of things.
So, there is a condition called TEWL - correct.
There is a condition of COPPER IMBALANCE - correct.
Aa long as these conditions exist, it is possible that we have them!!
Seems like we just disagree on how to combat them - along with all the other little gifts that Accutane brings!
The other thing when reading up on "blood tests" is just how unreliable they apparently are - that's great!! , we can't even count on half the results with blood tests!
Thats probably half the reason why people like us just go and experiment with different supplements trying to get relief.
Currently looking at Lymph supplements - want clean blood and can't count on recent tests that say thyroid is all ok......
Hi all. Thanks for all your research and passing it on to us. Just checking in to give an update and post blood test results my son (B) had done awhile back. He took 40 mg every day for I believe 6 months, beginning in August of 2012. Main side effect - complete sexual dysfunction (zero erections in 6 months at least) also emotional flatness. He doesn't think he has other sides, but I see his bilirubin and cholesterol are both high, so maybe they just aren't showing up yet. RSO is legal and available here. Because of school and work, he has not followed the protocol exactly as given, but has still had some positive results. He's just been taking as much as he can tolerate in the evening, then goes to bed when the high hits. I think he's ingested about 10 grams so far. One day he had a morning erection that lasted an hour, and a second, shorter one later in the day. Most days nothing, though. But enough good news that he sees hope. I saw a video awhile back where a man said he cured his cancer by taking the entire day's dosage of RSO in the evening, so we're going to try that and will let you know how it goes. After the full amount of RSO, I plan to retest his blood. If bilirubin is still high, liver cleanse is next. But I also read that RSO has cured cirrhosis, so I'm hoping it fixes this too.
These are his results of a test done in December 2015, so about 3 years after finishing Accutane, and before beginning RSO. I'm planning to get the copper tests done soon. Any other tests I should have done? Even just for info or comparisons; I think lab tests are cheap for us.
(Sorry for the dog footprint. : /)
Hey you all, hey Anonyy,
I have been following this forum for quite a while and your posts were the most helpful. I can see a lot of consistency in you "global toxicity" theory, moreover, liver flushes and a clean diet seem to be very helpful.
Still, there is a long way to reach a good understanding of how accutanne imbalances our body.
My symptoms are dry skin, seborrheic dermatitis (face), ocasional genital candida, muscle numbness, spasms, joint pain, cracking sounds when i move, a weird pain in my arms (maybe muscles), i sense oil is missing in my body. The oil that protected my skin is missing, the oil that lubricates my joints too.When i move it feels/sounds like a creaking door (gets betterwhen i exercise, movea lot). Apparently the "missing oil" has made my body fragile and minor efforts can cause pain. Besides that my myopia got significantly worse and i developed floaters. I also had depression, occasional tinnitus and my immunity got worse. Maybe i am forgetting something, a lot has happened and i'm pointing out the major problems.
Right now my symptoms are bad, but still better than when they got the worse ever. Actually i was doing great until recently, all of my symptoms had greatly diminished. what went wrong? I restarted to smoke and drink occasionally, besides that i got a bit careless with my diet. On the other hand, when i had acne i was a smoker used to drink every weekend and my diet was ordinary, i.e, kind of bad, but i didn't feel anything, my body was able to deal with my "toxiclifestyle". That being said, anonyy'stheory makes a lot of sense.
However, there is a question we need to raise, since there are a lot of people that have acne and a shitty diet, they take accutane, put an end to their acne and keep with the junkie life style without problems. We have also seen people that only started having problems after the third or fourth course of accutane. Maybe because some metabolize toxicity better than us, are more resistant, but eventually get imbalanced as well.Nevertheless, it mightbesomething else...
I got a lot better doing three things that, of all my reading, seemed to be the most helpful:
1. Cannabis, only smoking, pretty soon i'm going to make some oil.
I went to a Korean acupuncturist and he told me a lot about his perspective of health, to sum up it's all related to energy balance in our body. I thought a lot about that and after reading about good results with cannabis i found this
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Smoking cannabis definitely helped. First with depression and then with all other symptoms.
2. Clean diet, no gluten and mostly fruit and vegetables, but some meat and cooked food.
This diet thing is the most unclear for me. Some say don't eat rice or any grain, but we see very old and healthy people eating it with no problems. In Japan, for instance, they eat rice all the time and live a lot. Whats the answer? Our body after tane is unable to metabolize some foods?
Fruits and vegetables feel very easy to digest for me,gluten products and fat don't.
Improving my diet was a major thing and liver flushes seemed to be helpful as well, but i'm still not buying the theory behind it, i mean, if we had so many stones we would be dead. I know a very healthy lady that have done 27 flushes and still passes stones. Yet, there are people who took tane that are unable to pass stones, which are green most likely because they are made of, among other things, bile. By this i mean that tane may deteriorate bile flow and maybe flushes are good for stimulating the bile flow that became insufficient after tane.
3. Exercises, i was doing a lot better, but still not great, i was afraid of doing exercise s because of the pain i was felling in joints and body, but i read the posts of a guy, maybe Connor, and how he got better with exercises. after that i tried and it was great, i intend to continue, but my work makes it difficult.
This is my first post because now i have some experience to share.
I share a lot with you guys, i made many blood tests and a liver ultrasound, everything is normal according to these tests, but in reality is not. I also have been to many doctors and they always disregard the relation to accutane, actually one of them believed me, but didn't know much about it, had any clue or seemed to care about it. Alternative medicine helped me more and i'm still looking for a good doctor with an more holistic approach to help me clearing out what is wrong. Supplements aren't a solution, i also tried a bunch of them , some help a bit, but not much, there isn't a magic pill out there, that's for sure, we made this mistake with acutane, always remember that. Now we must learn how to get our life quality back
And you anonyy, how are you doing? Do you still consider yourself cured?I give a lot of credit to what you say. Can i have your e-mail or something?
Guys, we are together in this stormy weather, let's keep strong helping each other. Remember, one cannot be strong when one have never faced weakness, in weakness we discover how strong we can be.
All the best.
http://www.medicaljournals.se/acta/content/?doi=10.2340/00015555-1013&html=1
For anyone who is is visiting this forum for the first time and doesn't know where to start!
Go and get your adrenals and thyroid checked alongside FBC and comprehensive sex hormone panel test done.
Also very important is Vit D.
Get kidney and liver function tests done as well.
You will most likely have to fight like hell to get all these done.
Make sure you get a print out of your results and and try to get some understanding of what they mean to you personally.
For instance, testosterone may be within range but does it make sense that it is the right level for what you know and understand about your own body.
This is my suggestion anyway. After that you should try and work through as much other testing as possible, Vit's A,C,E, calcium, magnesium etc.
Follow up with gut health checking for candida etc.
This forum can seem like a hopeless place and I guess for many the situation is hopeless but this won't necessarily be the case for you.
Work your way through basic testing and address the issues that arise. concentrate on a healthy diet and try to maintain some level of exercise but listen to what your body is telling you. Don't expect a quick recovery.
BTW Dr Shippen recommends 3 day fasting to get hormones back in sync! Check this out yourself, I am not pushing this - just thought I would mention it.
Good luck
7 hours ago, Justmom said:Hi all. Thanks for all your research and passing it on to us. Just checking in to give an update and post blood test results my son (B) had done awhile back. He took 40 mg every day for I believe 6 months, beginning in August of 2012. Main side effect - complete sexual dysfunction (zero erections in 6 months at least) also emotional flatness. He doesn't think he has other sides, but I see his bilirubin and cholesterol are both high, so maybe they just aren't showing up yet. RSO is legal and available here. Because of school and work, he has not followed the protocol exactly as given, but has still had some positive results. He's just been taking as much as he can tolerate in the evening, then goes to bed when the high hits. I think he's ingested about 10 grams so far. One day he had a morning erection that lasted an hour, and a second, shorter one later in the day. Most days nothing, though. But enough good news that he sees hope. I saw a video awhile back where a man said he cured his cancer by taking the entire day's dosage of RSO in the evening, so we're going to try that and will let you know how it goes. After the full amount of RSO, I plan to retest his blood. If bilirubin is still high, liver cleanse is next. But I also read that RSO has cured cirrhosis, so I'm hoping it fixes this too.
These are his results of a test done in December 2015, so about 3 years after finishing Accutane, and before beginning RSO. I'm planning to get the copper tests done soon. Any other tests I should have done? Even just for info or comparisons; I think lab tests are cheap for us.
(Sorry for the dog footprint. : /)
What stands out from these tests......
1. white blood cell count 1 tic above being low.
2. LDL all messed up
3. high bilirubin (that makes two more people with high bilirubin)
the easiest way for anyone to confirm once and for all, would be get two ceruloplasmin tests one week apart. the first before taking any supplements to get a baseline ceruloplasmin score... the second taken Immediately one week later while still taking the copper supplement.. if the ceruloplasmin rises, you are deficient. theres no if ands or buts.
http://www.dovemed.com/ceruloplasmin-blood-test/
What is the Significance of the Ceruloplasmin Blood Test Result?
- A test result of Ceruloplasmin level by itself is not diagnostic of any particular condition
- However, a low Ceruloplasmin level along with an increased copper level in urine is diagnostic of Wilson™s disease
- It should be noted that sometimes, individuals with Wilson™s disease have normal Ceruloplasmin levels. In such cases, a diagnosis is made mainly on the basis of clinical signs and symptoms presented, and copper levels in blood and/or urine
- Low Ceruloplasmin levels along with low copper levels in the blood and/or urine indicates copper deficiency
Copper Deficiency and LDL
Some micronutrient deficiencies are known to cause elevated LDL.
Readers of our book know that copper causes vascular disease; blog readers may be more familiar with an excellent post by Stephan, œCopper and Cardiovascular Disease, discussing evidence that copper deficiency causes cardiovascular disease. As I™ve just argued that cardiovascular disease causes high LDL, it shouldn™t be a surprise that copper deficiency also causes hypercholesterolemia:
Copper and iron are essential nutrients in human physiology as their importance is linked to their role as cofactors of many redox enzymes involved in a wide range of biological processes, as well as in oxygen and electron transport. Mild dietary deficiencies of both metals ¦ may cause long-term deleterious effects in cardiovascular system and alterations in lipid metabolism (3)¦.
Several studies showed a clear correlation among copper deficiency and dyslipidemia. The main alterations concern higher plasma CL and triglyceride (TG) concentrations, increased VLDL-LDL to HDL lipoproteins ratio, and the shape alteration of HDL lipoproteins. [4]
The essentiality of copper (Cu) in humans is demonstrated by various clinical features associated with deficiency, such as anaemia, hypercholesterolaemia and bone malformations. [5]
Over the last couple of decades, dietary copper deficiency has been shown to cause a variety of metabolic changes, including hypercholesterolemia, hypertriglyceridemia, hypertension, and glucose intolerance. [6]
Copper deficiency is, I believe, the single most likely cause of elevated LDL on low-carb Paleo diets. The solution is to eat beef liver or supplement.
5 hours ago, tryingtohelp2014 said:What stands out from these tests......1. white blood cell count 1 tic above being low.
2. LDL all messed up
3. high bilirubin (that makes two more people with high bilirubin)
the easiest way for anyone to confirm once and for all, would be get two ceruloplasmin tests one week apart. the first before taking any supplements to get a baseline ceruloplasmin score... the second taken Immediately one week later while still taking the copper supplement.. if the ceruloplasmin rises, you are deficient. theres no if ands or buts.
http://www.dovemed.com/ceruloplasmin-blood-test/
What is the Significance of the Ceruloplasmin Blood Test Result?
- A test result of Ceruloplasmin level by itself is not diagnostic of any particular condition
- However, a low Ceruloplasmin level along with an increased copper level in urine is diagnostic of Wilsons disease
- It should be noted that sometimes, individuals with Wilsons disease have normal Ceruloplasmin levels. In such cases, a diagnosis is made mainly on the basis of clinical signs and symptoms presented, and copper levels in blood and/or urine
- Low Ceruloplasmin levels along with low copper levels in the blood and/or urine indicates copper deficiency
Copper Deficiency and LDL
Some micronutrient deficiencies are known to cause elevated LDL.
Readers of our book know that copper causes vascular disease; blog readers may be more familiar with an excellent post by Stephan,Copper and Cardiovascular Disease, discussing evidence that copper deficiency causes cardiovascular disease. As Ive just argued that cardiovascular disease causes high LDL, it shouldnt be a surprise that copper deficiency also causes hypercholesterolemia:
Copper and iron are essential nutrients in human physiology as their importance is linked to their role as cofactors of many redox enzymes involved in a wide range of biological processes, as well as in oxygen and electron transport. Mild dietary deficiencies of both metals may cause long-term deleterious effects in cardiovascular system andalterations in lipid metabolism(3).
Several studies showed a clear correlation among copper deficiency and dyslipidemia. The main alterations concern higher plasma CL and triglyceride (TG) concentrations,increased VLDL-LDL to HDL lipoproteins ratio, and the shape alteration of HDL lipoproteins. [4]
The essentiality of copper (Cu) in humans is demonstrated by various clinical features associated with deficiency, such as anaemia,hypercholesterolaemiaand bone malformations. [5]
Over the last couple of decades, dietary copper deficiency has been shown to cause a variety of metabolic changes, includinghypercholesterolemia, hypertriglyceridemia, hypertension, and glucose intolerance. [6]
Copper deficiency is, I believe, the single most likely cause of elevated LDL on low-carb Paleo diets. The solution is to eat beef liver or supplement.
So tomorrow I go to the doctor, serum copper levels I already know are high. I'll be asking to get my Ceruloplasmin checked, should they come back low I'll be one of those people mimicking "Wilsons disease" but without actually having it!
So where to from here, someone please explain??
I get if both ceruloplasmin and serum copper are low - you're low in copper and need to supplement or get more from diet etc.
Still uncertain where to go next with copper?
Hi PedroE,
Yes i feel far better, only has some liver & intestinal weakness remaining (everything else cured), but only very minor compared to before.
About the liver flush, one time i took twice the olive oil (didn't do it in purpose) and i had less stones than other times... I also had yellow stones, black stones, red stones.. idk, i believe the only real stones are the non-green ones personally, but anyway it's very good to force the liver to fully drain itself, toxic bile included. And the 1day fast is very good too.
At one point i was stuck, eating perfectly (only fruits & vegetables), doing liver flush, etc.. but it wasn't enough, i had to take glandular's, and detox herbs, it was for me, the ourbotanicals 2weeks kit who helped the most. Maybe just the glandular's were enough, or only the herbs... but i took both.
I had for sure some candida issue too, those herbs helped, but the most powerful supplement was candidagone (nutracraft).
Liver weakness is reponsible for your digestive issue, pancreas too, both affected greatly by accutane. Now i can eat watever i want, pizza 4days in a row, tons of meat, etc.. but if i do it for too long, my liver start to not feel happy, but it's all natural. So ofc it was just to try, i won't go back eating trash again x) at least not like before.
I must admit that I believe in the theory of the glands , accutane freezes and slows glands like adrenal , thyroid,....the stimulator like carnitine (androgen receptors) , vitamin C , taurine , momentarily improve my serious sexual and muscle effects , but I can not settle for a 20-30 % momentary improvement, I would like to fix the problem ...
honestly , in my case , I do not think the congestion hypothesis , liver, detoxification etc ... for me all is testosterone, dht usage in my body, the level of this hormone in the test are correct, but i lost all muscle mass in neck, shoulder, my posture is ruined beacuse i lost muscle, workout in gym is useless,if you first felt the job for days , now I have lost pleasure, my muscles give way and do not work, an extreme form of catabolism? my face has lost consistency...collagene?
low carb diet, clean, vegetables... = I can forget about having a penis, is dead, face like a zombie, eye drop...
meals with a very lot of carbohydrates, fat = more energy, oily face and libido and erection come from 0% to 20-30% (yes, after 5 x6 months course of accutane i'm yet oily, but a strange oily)
What happens in my metabolism?
On 6/15/2016 at 2:24 AM, Ruvik said:I must admit that I believe in the theory of the glands , accutane freezes and slows glands like adrenal , thyroid,....the stimulator like carnitine (androgen receptors) , vitamin C , taurine , momentarily improve my serious sexual and muscle effects , but I can not settle for a 20-30 % momentary improvement, I would like to fix the problem ...
honestly , in my case , I do not think the congestion hypothesis , liver, detoxification etc ... for me all is testosterone, dht usage in my body, the level of this hormone in the test are correct, but i lost all muscle mass in neck, shoulder, my posture is ruined beacuse i lost muscle, workout in gym is useless, if you first felt the job for days , now I have lost pleasure, my muscles give way and do not work, an extreme form of catabolism? my face has lost consistency...collagene?
low carb diet, clean, vegetables... = I can forget about having a penis, is dead, face like a zombie, eye drop...
meals with a very lot of carbohydrates, fat = more energy, oily face and libido and erection come from 0% to 20-30% (yes, after 5 x6 months course of accutane i'm yet oily, but a strange oily)What happens in my metabolism?
Yeah something happened with the metabolism thats right.
Im looking to regrow my hair. Thats my concern right now and my only concern.
I've been looking into Ray Peat and Danny Roddy lately. Danny Roddy grew back his hair with supplemnting THyroid and a high sugar diet.
He believes that Hair loss is the result of a shutdown metabolism and stress. Look at the supps hes using.
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14 hours ago, tryingtohelp2014 said:high bilirubin (that makes two more people with high bilirubin)
high bilirubin is a sign of excess copper.
if anyone was copper deficient there free copper levels would be low too. they are not they are high
noone here is living in a third world country that is suffering from malnutrition. Copper is in everything even drinking water for christ sake.
there are numerous other reasons that people could have low white blood cells. im sure you have looked into this though.
You are completely out of your mind for still recommending copper at this point.
rationalizing with you anymore is way to tedious for my time.
you offer half truth, biased opinions and its obvious you got some superiority complex issues going on.
you are more concerned about being right then anything else.
I can see how alot of bright minds have come through here a hit a wall with you.
Copper is completely dehydrating for the skin. you'll find it in a dermatology study. know how you love your studies.
oh and my white blood cells are elevated, ive been fighting this copper bullshit since the day i started taking it. So were you.
5 hours ago, Ruvik said:I must admit that I believe in the theory of the glands , accutane freezes and slows glands like adrenal , thyroid,....the stimulator like carnitine (androgen receptors) , vitamin C , taurine , momentarily improve my serious sexual and muscle effects , but I can not settle for a 20-30 % momentary improvement, I would like to fix the problem ...
honestly , in my case , I do not think the congestion hypothesis , liver, detoxification etc ... for me all is testosterone, dht usage in my body, the level of this hormone in the test are correct, but i lost all muscle mass in neck, shoulder, my posture is ruined beacuse i lost muscle, workout in gym is useless,if you first felt the job for days , now I have lost pleasure, my muscles give way and do not work, an extreme form of catabolism? my face has lost consistency...collagene?
low carb diet, clean, vegetables... = I can forget about having a penis, is dead, face like a zombie, eye drop...
meals with a very lot of carbohydrates, fat = more energy, oily face and libido and erection come from 0% to 20-30% (yes, after 5 x6 months course of accutane i'm yet oily, but a strange oily)What happens in my metabolism?
Low carb diet? wtf, it's like the worst diet ever. In a clean diet the main food is fruit.