On 5/24/2016 at 12:53 PM, Iamme. said:

I think I did about 6 liver flushes 2 years ago and didn't notice any dramatic changes

I then found a bunch of information backed up with studies about how they don't really work to get rid of gallstones

so im on the fence about them at the moment. I will probably do another 5 or so just to say I've done a sufficient number

Look at the 3rd study down. "

Home Remedy May Help Prevent Surgery in Some Patients with Gallstones"

http://www.aafp.org/afp/1998/0215/p785.html

I've researched liver flushing heavily. I've seen all the anti-liver flushing studies. They are created by conventional cancer associations to deceive the public. They don't want people finding out about cheap cures for illness. They almost deceived me as well when I first started flushing. I then learned about them a few months later and began flushing again.

Trust me, they're real.

I suggest listening to a few interviews with the great Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez. He talks all about how corrupt the medical industry is. This was one of the reasons he was killed. Another being the fact that he was curing MANY people with cancer naturally.
Here's an example of a biased study against natural treatments:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20361473
Read the author information, lol..

• ¹Integrative Medicine, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, New York, New York, USA.

And here's a line that should be a dead giveaway:
"...patients with inoperable pancreatic adenocarcinoma who underwent standard chemotherapy with gemcitabine (Gemzar) survived three times longer and had better quality of life than those who chose enzyme treatment, which included pancreatic enzymes, nutritional supplements, detoxification, and an organic diet. "
The ones who were on chemo(poison) had better quality of life than those who were eating a nutrient-dense, organic diet, taking supplements, and were detoxifying, hahaha.

There are loads of studies like this to deceive people. As another example, most research "proving" cellphones are safe are funded by, you guessed it, cellphone companies.. The few studies that are done by independent scientists find just the opposite.

Former New England Journal of Medicine editor says evidence-based medicine is dead.

If you are doubting the liver flush, read through this information I compiled: It debunks the studies.
http://bit.ly/liverflushtruth

Here is how to perform the flush:
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Here's a few lines taken from the above link:

My new doctor just tested me energetically and found accutane still in my body EVERYWHERE. It's not just in our livers ... It's even in my brain.

He also tested to see if my antibiotic I took while on accutane was still in my body as well. It is.. It's not in my liver, though. It's mainly in my brain and intestines.

Going to be getting field control therapy done soon to rid my body of these substances. FCT was developed by Dr. Yurkovsky. Look it up.
http://www.yurkovsky.com/what-is-fct%C2%AE/scientific-tenets/

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EDIT: Not saying this route is necessary for us to get well. I suggest everyone here flush out their biliary system with Andreas Moritz' method, do coffee enemas as often as possible with Wilson's coffee, take TUDCA, ingest bitters, dowater enemas on a regular basis, take binders on a consistent basis (charcoal, bentonite clay, chlorella from BioPure, zeolites, citrus pectin, etc..), and take calcium-d-glucarate to bind up the accutane.
Do as much as you can to cleanse the drug out of your body.

https://www.jci.org/articles/view/66413

Retinoids activate the irritant receptor TRPV1 and produce sensory hypersensitivity

And as i understand this can lead to joint pains, for example.
Dunno if this has already been posted here? But maybe someone smarter will understand something useful from this paper...

On 5/23/2016 at 11:58 AM, HideAndSeek said:

Hi Guys,

I would like to do something about my hairloss and my hairthinning after my Accutane course because I really miss the way my hair used to be. I went to the drugstore and got 'Minoxidil' and a vitamin supplement to stop hairloss.
Has anyone experience with Minoxidil against hairloss?
One "positive thing" that Accutane taught me is that I won't take drugs anymore before really knowing what damage it can cause. The vitamin supplement is with Vitamin B3, B6, B8 and zinc.. So I don't think that can really do harm, but I'm more afraid of the 'Minoxidil' because it seems kinda serious. The last thing I want is regretting taking another drug...

Thanks!

Hi Hide and seek,

What type of hair loss are you experiencing? Does MBP run in your family. Is hair loss the only thing you suffer from? Have you had any blood work?

There is a thread dedicated to hair loss, I will have to find it it's been a while

7 minutes ago, oli girl said:

Hi Hide and seek,

What type of hair loss are you experiencing? Does MBP run in your family. Is hair loss the only thing you suffer from? Have you had any blood work?

There is a thread dedicated to hair loss, I will have to find it it's been a while

What do you mean type of hair loss? It's just that my hair is falling out every second of the day... I've never experienced something like that before. I notice it when I get up in the morning that my bed is strangely covered with hair. The same when I shower. I'm in my exams now and on every page of my textbooks I can find hair. When I go through my hair with my hands, I got at least 6 hairs with me.

And no, I suffer from a lot of things since I've been on Roaccutane. It's been 6 months now and nothing has changed. Yes I had the typical blood work at the GP. Low Vitamin D that's all! So I take a high dose of vitamin D every 2 weeks. I also take Vitamin B and zinc tablets especially for my hair now.

Thank you for your reply!

3 hours ago, yetanotheraccutanevictim said:

My new doctor just tested me energetically and found accutane still in my body EVERYWHERE. It's not just in our livers ... It's even in my brain.

He also tested to see if my antibiotic I took while on accutane was still in my body as well. It is.. It's not in my liver, though. It's mainly in my brain and intestines.

Going to be getting field control therapy done soon to rid my body of these substances. FCT was developed by Dr. Yurkovsky. Look it up.
http://www.yurkovsky.com/what-is-fct%C2%AE/scientific-tenets/

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EDIT: Not saying this route is necessary for us to get well. I suggest everyone here flush out their biliary system with Andreas Moritz' method, do coffee enemas as often as possible with Wilson's coffee, take TUDCA, ingest bitters, dowater enemas on a regular basis, take binders on a consistent basis (charcoal, bentonite clay, chlorella from BioPure, zeolites, citrus pectin, etc..), and take calcium-d-glucarate to bind up the accutane.
Do as much as you can to cleanse the drug out of your body.

What is energetic testing?

On 5/25/2016 at 3:22 AM, tanedout said:

This is from 2011, but it's interesting that it references UDCA, liver flushing and bile production. Obviously things which have all been discussed on this thread before..

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Anyone know about taking soy lecithin granules the day of flushing??

How does the guy know this sort of stuff? He sounds convincing to me. It's not enough just to follow Moritz guidelines, Chico knows that in order to make it work we need to take certain supplements along the way - I just don't know how he came to know this sort of stuff??

The flush seems to work from what I can tell - I've seen what comes out. I'd hate to think though that by taking Soy lecithin
we could get even more out!!

2 hours ago, TrueJustice said:

Anyone know about taking soy lecithin granules the day of flushing??

How does the guy know this sort of stuff? He sounds convincing to me. It's not enough just to follow Moritz guidelines, Chico knows that in order to make it work we need to take certain supplements along the way - I just don't know how he came to know this sort of stuff??

The flush seems to work from what I can tell - I've seen what comes out. I'd hate to think though that by taking Soy lecithin
we could get even more out!!

Quote he's talking about:
"you can clean the liver by liver flushing, although you'll need to take something like soy lecithin granules loading up to the day of the flush to help the olive oil in the flush recipe absorb. Otherwise it won't be successful. "

If you take soy lecithin, you will not have a more successful flush. It does not matter if the olive oil is absorbed. The goal is to trigger cholecystokinin release by olive oil reaching the lumen of the duodenum. Ingesting any fat on the day of the flush will decrease the bile load building up in the gallbladder. Also, the acidic citrus juice is added to speed transit out of the stomach so the bolus dose of the oil spikes the hormone release which will then cause the bile sac to contract and squirt the bile out. Follow Andreas Moritz' advice exactly as laid out. He's a smart man.

Also, his statement about coconut and palm kernel oil not needing bile to be absorbed is wrong. There are a FEWmedium chained triglycerides in those fats but there are a lot more longer chained ones as well, which do require emulsification. Many people do liver flushes with coconut oil alone and get a massive release of bile. Only pure MCT oil would possibly not trigger a gallbladder contraction.

7 hours ago, HideAndSeek said:

What do you mean type of hair loss? It's just that my hair is falling out every second of the day... I've never experienced something like that before. I notice it when I get up in the morning that my bed is strangely covered with hair. The same when I shower. I'm in my exams now and on every page of my textbooks I can find hair. When I go through my hair with my hands, I got at least 6 hairs with me.

And no, I suffer from a lot of things since I've been on Roaccutane. It's been 6 months now and nothing has changed. Yes I had the typical blood work at the GP. Low Vitamin D that's all! So I take a high dose of vitamin D every 2 weeks. I also take Vitamin B and zinc tablets especially for my hair now.

Thank you for your reply!

Well there's different types of hair loss. Some suffer MPB, hormonal issues, T.E. etc. or if you are having different issues or a lot of stress having taking Accutane can cause hair loss

Here is a link to the thread. You can read through it. Especially Lamarr1986 and Max- posts

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/152239-the-answers-i-got-from-my-doctor-about-hair-loss/?page=3

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18811921

Expression of E-SOD, GPX5 mRNAs and immunoexpression of Cu/ZnSOD in epididymal epithelial cells of finasteride-treated rats.

Finasteride Has Regionally Different Effects on Brain Oxidative Stress and Acetylcholinesterase Activity in Acute Thioacetamide-Induced Hepatic Encephalopathy in Rats.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26241899

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The SODzymeformula also contains GliSODin, a patented, plant-derived form of SOD. In an animal study, small amounts of orally administered GliSODinraised blood levels of SOD by 89% and increased catalase levels by171%!166

SODzymewith GliSODinand Wolfberry supplies 100 mg of a standardized wolfberry (Lycium barbarum) fruit extract. Wolfberry is found to have one of the highest ORAC values of all fruits, and is effective in scavenging superoxide radicals and preventing their formation. When given to patients aged 6480, wolfberry increased blood levels of SOD by48%and lowered blood lipid peroxides by65%in only 10 days!167

19 hours ago, HideAndSeek said:

And no, I suffer from a lot of things since I've been on Roaccutane. It's been 6 months now and nothing has changed. Yes I had the typical blood work at the GP. Low Vitamin D that's all! So I take a high dose of vitamin D every 2 weeks. I also take Vitamin B and zinc tablets especially for my hair now.

Thank you for your reply!

Do not take Zinc.

High supplementalzincintakes of 50 mg/day or more for extended periods of time may result in copper deficiency. High dietary zinc intakes increase thesynthesisof an intestinal cell protein called metallothionein, which binds certain metals and prevents their absorption by trapping them in intestinal cells. Metallothionein has a stronger affinity for copper than zinc, so high levels of metallothionein induced by excess zinc cause a decrease in copper absorption. In contrast, high copper intakes have not been found to affect zinc nutritional status(2,15). Zinc supplementation (10 mg/day for eight weeks) was able to restore normalplasmacopper/zinc ratios in 65 subjects on long-termhemodialysiswho initially exhibited low zinc levels and elevated copper levels. Whether improving zinc and copper status of hemodialysis patients can impact their clinical outcomes needs to be assessed(16).

Ceruloplasmin and metallothionein induction by zinc and 13-cis-retinoic acid in rats with adjuvant inflammation.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3857634

your hairloss/hair fragility is from the Low D imo. youre not absorbing/producing it correctly anymore..even from the Sun High dose Taurine and D work together. sebacous glands secrete the substance for Sun absorption...less secretions/less being produced. get tested again.

UPDATE: Significant changes!!!

3mg Copper early am.

2000mg Taurine 3x a day before meals (6000mg total)
4000iu Vitamin D3
200mg Mag
1mg K2 mk4

1. NOTICEABLE increased oil production has spread to entire T-zone
2. Joint pain significantly reduced
3. much less stomach bloat

30 minutes ago, tryingtohelp2014 said:

UPDATE: Significant changes!!!

3mg Copper early am.

2000mg Taurine 3x a day before meals (6000mg total)
4000iu Vitamin D3
200mg Mag
1mg K2 mk4

1. NOTICEABLE increased oil production has spread to entire T-zone
2. Joint pain significantly reduced
3. much less stomach bloat

Very interesting, I can consider this for sexual problems ?

@tryingtohelp2014 What changes have you recently made that contributed to your new improvements? Are you now ingesting more copper or is it the taurine or what? Did you change something up recently or are these improvements just from taking the same stuff over an extended period of time?
I've taken all of those things listed above multiple times except for the copper. Would you say the copper is key?

1 hour ago, Ruvik said:

Very interesting, I can consider this for sexual problems ?

Copper and taurine are needed for nitric oxide production. so yes.

I feel copper moving something around for sure. Could be the exercise. But i think the combination of Taurine and Vitamin D together at the same time do something. Taurine is needed for so many things related to our problems. its needed for calcium homeostasis in and outside of the cell. Who knows maybe our bodies shut off the ability to digest on purpose to protect us from more Vitamin A. Taurine would be needed to bind. retinoic acid is eliminated by taurine and a Mn based glucuronide. nothing else. you cant flush retinoic acid out any other way. there are no other binders. post studies if you find some.

A lot of these animal studies would mean taking the equivalent of 5grams 3x a day.... so maybe in a bit up it to that.

From the people that have been tested...it seems pretty straight forward.

I've achieved now almost 80% recovery of accutane damage. It's getting better 🙂
Theamounts of supplementsand foods thatI've tried is incredible long!!! The most of them were only a waste of money.
I'm currently usingthis supplements below.

Hormon Balance Stack:
- 5000mg Taurine
- 5000iu Vitamin D3 (10 drops)
- 400mg Magnesium
- 2mg Copper

I've replaced 7-Keto DHEAwith copper for 2 days.7-Keto DHEAwas the best supplement against heavy sweating that i've ever tried.
I hope copper hasalso asimilar effect for this symptom.

Anti Candida / Parasites Stack (Day 13):
- 3 Pills Nystatin daily
- 2 Tablespoon olive oil
- Liquid Clean for Candida / Parasites
(Wormwood, Black Walnuts, etc...)

Maybe I can test my ED issue soon. Last weekend I've met a nice girlin a bar andI'm having a date with her in her apartment on Saturday.

here is a serum free copper calculator
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now check the numbers of everyone with borderline low copper.
from my most recent test my serum free copper is 18 ug/dl reference range is 10-15 ug/dl (and this is with a serum copper of only 81 out of 80-140)

tryingtohelp free serum copper is 19.4 looking at his numbers. hell thats higher then mine. and this was before he started taking copper.

who else was copper deficient? plug the numbers in.

copper toxicity is inflammation. the facial flushing we started getting after accutane, ears get red. the chronic sinus problems, ear fullness. the hair loss, liver, bile flow problems. all inflammation.
Copper toxicity causes a blockage in the bile. this is in a medical study I read.
copper toxicity allows candida to thrive. it becomes resistant. look it up.
copper toxicity causes vitamin d malabsorption in the gut.
copper toxicity can cause your muscles to become so stiff it becomes painful to move them.
nerve damage/ brain damage.
everyone has avoided vitamin a for years with no success right? how about copper? its in everything. how do you chelate copper ? you cant really. not without very powerful drugs.
that mental fog that everyone has? thats not a fluke. that could brain/nerve damage from copper deposited where its not suppose to be.
thats why no matter what we do, what supplements we take. its only a bandaid. its always there. its always been there.

That feeling that copper is moving something? Thats going to turn into abdominal pain. it will get bad enough you wont even be able to lay on your stomach. your going to have to take more and more taurine just to shit right. eventually you wont even be able to take that high dose taurine because your liver wont be able to handle it.

Did you guys miss this study? and you want to add more copper to the mix?

Oxidative DNA Damage by Vitamin A and Its Derivative via Superoxide Generation

http://m.jbc.org/content/275/3/2003.full

Experiments using³²P-labeled isolated DNA demonstrated that retinol and retinal caused Cu(II)-mediated DNA damage

Superoxide is produced as a by-product of oxygen metabolism and, if not regulated, causes many types of cell damage

So I could be wrong about all of this, but I could be right too. So some of you really paying attention dont forget this shit.

Hello everyone and those open and willing enough to give something a go.

Following the method of homeopathy is something called Tautopathy. It's like homeopathy but not the same. Basically potentised Accutane can be given to help the body reverse the side effects from the drug. Here is an article.
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It's worth a shot. Potentised Accutane wouldn't have any atom of Accutane left but rather the energy of it. So you can't re-poison yourself with accutane. Science still can't measure and explain such phenomena but i know homeopathy works from having helped me with various things in the past. I'm using it now to treat my eczema post Accutane but if it doesn't work i will look into trying this potentised accutane.

Here's a quote from another article

Tautopathic Prescribing-

The prescribing of potentized remedies based on theirchemical similarityto the disorder being treated. Tautopathy is the science of antidotes and toxicology. This method excels in removing the effect of drugs and toxins. Drug layers, drug abuse, addictions, craving and drug overdoses can all be treated with tautopathic methods.The first remedy ever prescribed in homeopathy was a tautopathic one not a homeopathic one.Hahnemann used the remedy China to treat China poisoning: that was tautopathy. He antidoted peruvian bark poisoning with potentized Peruvian bark. Where was the need to take a long case history as the classicals do? This is an example of a poison curing a poison.

On 5/26/2016 at 8:34 AM, guitarman01 said:

here is a serum free copper calculator
[Edited link out]

now check the numbers of everyone with borderline low copper.
from my most recent test my serum free copper is 18 ug/dl reference range is 10-15 ug/dl (and this is with a serum copper of only 81 out of 80-140)

tryingtohelp free serum copper is 19.4 looking at his numbers. hell thats higher then mine. and this was before he started taking copper.

who else was copper deficient? plug the numbers in.

copper toxicity is inflammation. the facial flushing we started getting after accutane, ears get red. the chronic sinus problems, ear fullness. the hair loss, liver, bile flow problems. all inflammation.
Copper toxicity causes a blockage in the bile. this is in a medical study I read.
copper toxicity allows candida to thrive. it becomes resistant. look it up.
copper toxicity causes vitamin d malabsorption in the gut.
copper toxicity can cause your muscles to become so stiff it becomes painful to move them.
nerve damage/ brain damage.
everyone has avoided vitamin a for years with no success right? how about copper? its in everything. how do you chelate copper ? you cant really. not without very powerful drugs.
that mental fog that everyone has? thats not a fluke. that could brain/nerve damage from copper deposited where its not suppose to be.
thats why no matter what we do, what supplements we take. its only a bandaid. its always there. its always been there.

That feeling that copper is moving something? Thats going to turn into abdominal pain. it will get bad enough you wont even be able to lay on your stomach. your going to have to take more and more taurine just to shit right. eventually you wont even be able to take that high dose taurine because your liver wont be able to handle it.

Did you guys miss this study? and you want to add more copper to the mix?

Oxidative DNA Damage by Vitamin A and Its Derivative via Superoxide Generation

http://m.jbc.org/content/275/3/2003.full

Experiments using³²P-labeled isolated DNA demonstrated that retinol and retinal caused Cu(II)-mediated DNA damage

Superoxide is produced as a by-product of oxygen metabolism and, if not regulated, causes many types of cell damage

So I could be wrong about all of this, but I could be right too. So some of you really paying attention dont forget this shit.

Sorry, you're saying who else is copper deficient?? But then you are talking about copper toxicity??

Are you saying you're deficient or have too much in your body? Please explain....

I raised this last time and I'll say it again, my hair mineral test albeit done some time ago now said I was HIGH in copper not low hence why I'm still on the fence with supplementing it!!

Those symptoms you state ring soooo true - I feel it lodged in my brain. Part of me also believes that no amount of liver flushing will improve this lodged feeling I've always had in my brain - it's like that pseudo tumor effect that people have mentioned, can't think straight and still have huge sensitivity to sunlight and a heavy headed feeling all the time

Would any amount of liver flushes improve this condition, I do have my doubts....

Thanks for the post and your findings.

On 5/26/2016 at 8:34 AM, guitarman01 said:

here is a serum free copper calculator
[Edited link out]

now check the numbers of everyone with borderline low copper.
from my most recent test my serum free copper is 18 ug/dl reference range is 10-15 ug/dl (and this is with a serum copper of only 81 out of 80-140)

tryingtohelp free serum copper is 19.4 looking at his numbers. hell thats higher then mine. and this was before he started taking copper.

who else was copper deficient? plug the numbers in.

copper toxicity is inflammation. the facial flushing we started getting after accutane, ears get red. the chronic sinus problems, ear fullness. the hair loss, liver, bile flow problems. all inflammation.
Copper toxicity causes a blockage in the bile. this is in a medical study I read.
copper toxicity allows candida to thrive. it becomes resistant. look it up.
copper toxicity causes vitamin d malabsorption in the gut.
copper toxicity can cause your muscles to become so stiff it becomes painful to move them.
nerve damage/ brain damage.
everyone has avoided vitamin a for years with no success right? how about copper? its in everything. how do you chelate copper ? you cant really. not without very powerful drugs.
that mental fog that everyone has? thats not a fluke. that could brain/nerve damage from copper deposited where its not suppose to be.
thats why no matter what we do, what supplements we take. its only a bandaid. its always there. its always been there.

That feeling that copper is moving something? Thats going to turn into abdominal pain. it will get bad enough you wont even be able to lay on your stomach. your going to have to take more and more taurine just to shit right. eventually you wont even be able to take that high dose taurine because your liver wont be able to handle it.

Did you guys miss this study? and you want to add more copper to the mix?

Oxidative DNA Damage by Vitamin A and Its Derivative via Superoxide Generation

http://m.jbc.org/content/275/3/2003.full

Experiments using³²P-labeled isolated DNA demonstrated that retinol and retinal caused Cu(II)-mediated DNA damage

Superoxide is produced as a by-product of oxygen metabolism and, if not regulated, causes many types of cell damage

So I could be wrong about all of this, but I could be right too. So some of you really paying attention dont forget this shit.

i had 18.30mg/dl (range 15-30) ceruloplasmin and 69.86ug/dl (range 70-140) serum copper. It was in March, havn't been supplementing copper yet. In your calculator i got 14.96. Anyway when i showed my copper results to my doctor he didn't give a sh*t. Like i wasnt copper defficient or didnt have willson disease.
He gave me referral to the hospital to diagnose my joints. Maybe they will find something, but dont know when they will take me on the branch, i may wait several months for this.

Please note that zinc and copper don't like together. If you have copper deficient take copper capsule and limit zinc you eat. If you have copper toxicity take more zinc.

On 5/26/2016 at 1:00 PM, Off the wall said:

Hello everyone and those open and willing enough to give something a go.

Following the method of homeopathy is something called Tautopathy. It's like homeopathy but not the same. Basically potentised Accutane can be given to help the body reverse the side effects from the drug. Here is an article.
[removed]
It's worth a shot. Potentised Accutane wouldn't have any atom of Accutane left but rather the energy of it. So you can't re-poison yourself with accutane. Science still can't measure and explain such phenomena but i know homeopathy works from having helped me with various things in the past. I'm using it now to treat my eczema post Accutane but if it doesn't work i will look into trying this potentised accutane.

Here's a quote from another article

Tautopathic Prescribing-

The prescribing of potentized remedies based on theirchemical similarityto the disorder being treated. Tautopathy is the science of antidotes and toxicology. This method excels in removing the effect of drugs and toxins. Drug layers, drug abuse, addictions, craving and drug overdoses can all be treated with tautopathic methods.The first remedy ever prescribed in homeopathy was a tautopathic one not a homeopathic one.Hahnemann used the remedy China to treat China poisoning: that was tautopathy. He antidoted peruvian bark poisoning with potentized Peruvian bark. Where was the need to take a long case history as the classicals do? This is an example of a poison curing a poison.

 

Quoting this as it's important. People, pay attention. I suggest everyone here find an experienced homeopath and get this done.

I am doing this tomorrow via Field Control Therapy.

If not going the energy medicine route (which is the best path), do everything possible to decongest the bile ducts and thin the bile.

EDIT
If you can find one of these practitioners in your area, I HIGHLY suggest going to one. They are the most well trained. They will be able to find your problems with autonomic response testing.
http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/event/klinghardt_certified_practitioners.pdf?v=2016

EDIT 2
regarding field control therapy:
take a look at these testimonials:
Skip to 1 hour 2 minutes in: video link
Works for Lyme, too: link

I'm going to get this done tomorrow to see where exactly the accutane is in my body. I am doing the remedy this weekend perhaps.

just to follow up real quick im looking more so at the people that took a normal course course of accutane (40 to 80mgs for 3 to 4 months) at the youngest age, that are the oldest now. That would possibly have the most cumulative effects. I was maybe 15 ? when I took accutane im 33 now.
this copper thing , if im right would be a slow build up. ive gotten worse, not better over the years. So if our serum free copper levels have been gradually rising, this would be a cause for concern. Where is the source? if its the liver, this could be a serious problem later on in life. to put it into perspective, full blown Wilsons disease patients have serum free copper levels of 25 or greater. We werent born with Wilsons but there could be some other mechanisms going on here due to accutane.

Copper is an essential element and a critical component of many metalloenzymes. However, excess copper, particularly the free (ie, not bound to proteins) fraction, may lead to tissue injury due to pro-oxidant effects and depletion of antioxidant reserves.
Copper excess is also associated with cancer, preeclampsia, dilated cardiomyopathy, inflammation, biliary obstruction, Alzheimer disease, and total parenteral nutrition.^[1,48]The incidence of WD is estimated at 1:30,000. Clinical manifestations of WD are generally either hepatic or neurologic. Early diagnosis is important because WD can be treated and can be fatal if not treated.

Again forget Wilsons im only using this as a example because it has the most info on copper toxicity.
TTH blood test were a little different then mine. he had a plasma test and the ranges went up higher but seem to be inline and equals the same as a serum copper test. if these serum free copper numbers continue to climb in people post accutane, we really need to figure this out.

going forward i would periodically monitor serum copper and ceruloplasmin to calculate free copper. and also get liver function test maybe even into old age, just in case. there is a type of liver disease thats happens fast and without much warning. there is a name for it, but i forget.

again maybe my free copper is just elevated still from the supplements i took. im looking into things.

just to add: normal ranges for men and womens serum copper that didnt take accutane seem to hover around the low 90s ug/dl. So maybe we would be looking for this level to gradually drop and free copper to gradually rise.

Will vitamin e supplementation assist at all?

Interesting experience by a CureZone forum user (even more evidence that it remains lodged in our bodies):

"I was on accutane twice: when I was 16 and 21.

I'm 42 now, and just finished 5 years of detox. I'm pretty much done (unless there are symptoms ahead that I'm not aware of).

I just wanted to put a warning out there for those who are actively detoxing, and were on accutane.

I believe we detox backwards: last thing in, comes out first. You can track your progress by symptoms of whatever pharmaceuticals are coming out.

I had to detox years of the pill, and tetracyclene. As they came out, I was hardly aware of it (even though I often had herxheimer because my PH wasn't steady).

But the absolute WORST of my detox was the accutane. I went through periods where my brain was not extremely optimistic, funny, creative and extroverted.

That is my normal self.

Accutane can lead to depression and even suicide. When I took it as a teenager and young adult, those were the same feelings I had (I felt blah and boring, but not depressed).

I am SO grateful that it didn't affect me in a worse way.

But still, it was nasty when it all came out.

So be very careful if it did affect you terribly, and you now are actively detoxing.

And the other part of detox that was the worst, was the very end of it- my childhood vaccines.

Massive amounts of smelly chemicals came out of me for months...but that's another story

(I was surprised that there isn't a chronic fatigue forum, or detox forum. So I put this message in accutane, acne, fasting, immunity, women's, and support groups) " link

7 minutes ago, yetanotheraccutanevictim said:

Interesting experience by a CureZone forum user (even more evidence that it remains lodged in our bodies):

"I was on accutane twice: when I was 16 and 21.

I'm 42 now, and just finished 5 years of detox. I'm pretty much done (unless there are symptoms ahead that I'm not aware of).

I just wanted to put a warning out there for those who are actively detoxing, and were on accutane.

I believe we detox backwards: last thing in, comes out first. You can track your progress by symptoms of whatever pharmaceuticals are coming out.

I had to detox years of the pill, and tetracyclene. As they came out, I was hardly aware of it (even though I often had herxheimer because my PH wasn't steady).

But the absolute WORST of my detox was the accutane. I went through periods where my brain was not extremely optimistic, funny, creative and extroverted.

That is my normal self.

Accutane can lead to depression and even suicide. When I took it as a teenager and young adult, those were the same feelings I had (I felt blah and boring, but not depressed).

I am SO grateful that it didn't affect me in a worse way.

But still, it was nasty when it all came out.

So be very careful if it did affect you terribly, and you now are actively detoxing.

And the other part of detox that was the worst, was the very end of it- my childhood vaccines.

Massive amounts of smelly chemicals came out of me for months...but that's another story

(I was surprised that there isn't a chronic fatigue forum, or detox forum. So I put this message in accutane, acne, fasting, immunity, women's, and support groups) " link

what he used for detox?