lol i accidently bought just Beta-Cyclodextrin had to rebuy it. and Im not shoving it up my ass any time soon. you can try that and let me know if it works. So i take it there are 3 of us now that have it. and im only willing to try orally atm. but id like to find one study or any indication to know that it could be effective. guess we're the guinea pigs.

48 minutes ago, guitarman01 said:

lol i accidently bought just Beta-Cyclodextrin had to rebuy it. and Im not shoving it up my ass any time soon. you can try that and let me know if it works. So i take it there are 3 of us now that have it. and im only willing to try orally atm. but id like to find one study or any indication to know that it could be effective. guess we're the guinea pigs.

Godspeed gentlemen.

The guy who is the most knowledgeable on its use says oral administration is NOT effective. I wouldn't waste the CD. Either shoot it up IV or make a suppository. Suppository may be better than IV due to it going STRAIGHT to the liver where we assume most metabolites are stored.

idk I think there is something with b2 riboflavin.maybe even how we are absorbing/ not absorbing real dietary vitamin a? or not utilizing the vitamin a in our livers? and we dont absorb because our liver is saying we have enough?if you got some b2 laying around try taking 400mgs once or twice a day for a couple days with a normal diet with and without vitamin a foods. see if your lips get softer, your skin smoother, your hair more natural color and healthy feeling, more energy. I know there is a interaction with vitamin a/riboflavin and night vision. maybe there are more interactions as well.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/85/5/1375.full

Supplementation with iron and riboflavin enhances dark adaptation response to vitamin A

if we had mass doses of vitamin a maybe we need mass doses of one of its catalyst to utilize what we already have. or a certain enzyme got shut down or too weak to compensate? idk just thinking outside the box.

if you have any chronic dry skin around the sides of your nose or around your ears, that could be a sign of riboflavin deficiency

Trantran83333
I takeit wwit B Complex (Brand bulkpowders) wath Do you say about glycine?

On 1/6/2016, 12:37:34, Chico Esposito said:

So what's the general consensus nowadays because a few years back it ranged fromcannabis oil as a cure all forpost accutane side effects all the way through tothepreposterous like running barefoot will cure you. That's why i had to walk away because it was non stop infighting in between contextlesspeer review studies on every page and it seemed to be going round in a closed circuitloop.

So what have the brightest minds on thesitegot to offer in terms of new breakthroughs....has there been any? and if so what side effects do they displace? I've got some breakthroughs of my own that may help.

what breakthroughs?

Hi guys, i just made account for this topic.

So im 22 and i was using this accutane thing 40mg a day for 6 months i finished using it 3 months ago and i still have dry eyes and hair,
even after i wake up and when im energetic my eyes are dry, also my hair was nice bright wavy before now its like curly lifeless, no hair loss
and these side effects hit me at my last month of using accutane first 5 month was just lips and skin dryness.

Sometimes i use eye drops but they doesnt even work, they just work for like 15-20 minutes lol... only times that my eyes are fine is when i laugh or when im doing workout, for hair i tried oil and special shampoos but they dont work aswell.

How can i make my hair and eyes back to being healthy,
My Doctor said side effects can stay for another 6 months, but i see posts people saying their lifes are fucked,
so i scare if hair/eye drynes are permanent, who ever had this problems, how you guys fixed it ?

Thanks for help, sorry for bad english, its not my first language.

Hey yall. Quick introduction. I am a 21 year old male from Seoul, South Korea. I took accutane towards the end of 2012 and have since suffered from symptoms of hypervitaminosis A and other health complications. There are a lot of smart people on this forum contributing valuable information (although some info Seems quite bogus and self contradictory)but everything is so scattered and disorganized I find It crucial to establish some sort of consensus with regards to possible treatment to the long term side effects of accutane. It really makes me sad that a lot of information from independent sources and even on this forum are way too professional for laymen to understand and process. Thus, I find that it is my duty to summarize months of studying and make information more available to the general audience. Based on months of research, scrutinizing the forum and independent research we can surely establish the following:

1. Symptoms

I. Brain fog and memory problems (plus depression)

II. Joint pain, arthritis and general unease in movement

III. Erectile dysfunction and lack of pleasure in sexual activities

IV. Dry skin from lack of sebum production and drying up of mucous membranes (dry eyes)

V. Chronic dehydration from Inability to hold water which in turn causes dry skin and joint problems

VI. Excessive Sweating and frequent urination (ie, This goes back to V. in that accutane makes our cells incapable ofholding water molecules and we are thus unable to absorb water. I actually did an experiment on this. II drank 500MLof water and isubsequently urinated 450 MLof the water I consumed within 30 minutes. Same happens when I exercise or go to the sauna I will excrete most of all the water consumed via sweating)

VI. Pale stool (IBS)from inability to digest fatty esters and chronic/vicious beta glucuronidation cycle

VII. Jaundice

VIII. Chronic fatigue (almost resemblinga hangover state)

And many more

In addition these are some weird symptoms that I have personally experienced

1. Inability to remember dreams, learning disabilities (similar to Alzheimers) and loss of directional sense (I presume this is because accutane damages the retinoic receptor proteins (g coupled) which consequently damages the hippocampus responsible for memory and spacial recognition

2. Cold hands and cold feet accompanied with chronic head fever, chills, nausea, chronic fatigue (hypotension, lack of blood circulation, and damage to hypothalamus which is responsible for temperature homeostasis, damage to the neuroendocrine system thyroid and pituitary glands)

3. Depression/bipolar/ocd/general indifference or inability to control emotions marked by diminished sense of pleasure (inhibition of serotonin production which is primarily (90%) produced in the enterchromaffin cells in the GI tract and then circulated to the brain and the amygdala) (this is because our body's bowel movement and peristaltis is limited from lack of bile production which might be a cause of serotonin inhibitiondepression and mood swings.

4. Seborrhoeic dermatitis (this is irregular growth of a patch of skin which sheds at a different rate from the rest of your body)

5. I realized that I get drunk quicker and more easily after taking accutane. Also the hangover the day after alcohol is the worst. I presume that this is because our body has to use amino acids as enzymes to convert ethanol to acetaldehyde to acetic acid for fatty acid biosynthesis OR through alcohol catabolism via sulfotransferase. Our body is messed up in the sense that it cant digest fat due to limited bile movement (expanded further below). Therefore, the alcohol just accumulates in our body whilst non accutane users can metabolize within 8hours or so.

5. General lethargy, not feeling refreshed after a goodnights sleep, feling like shit (extremely tired) but never actually getting sick (Ive never got colds or fever since accutane)--->I think this is because accutane induces apoptosis (programmed cell death)--->our body in turn has to make up for the dead cells so our body is constantly being overworked and overcooked to make up for the loss of cells (hence feeling extremely tired) through cell regeneration--->this causes our cells to die and regenerate at irregularly fast rates (hence the excessive skin shedding you experience on accutane and seborrhoeic dermatitis on patches of skin after accutane days [I have this on my ears])--->its not only your skin that grows at ridiculously fast rates but also other cells in your body (i.e. white blood cells. I got a health checkup and found out that I had a ridiculously high white blood cell count). Remember? Accutane is a chemo drug. This means it is designed to induce apoptosis to in turn induce cell proliferation to kill not only cancer cells but also other good cells. But modern cancer treatment relies on the assumption that cancer cells die at a faster rate than the good cells in your body and also that the white blood cells regenerate at a faster rate than cancer cells.

From my research this is what I come to agree with regards to possible explanations to accutane symptoms

1. We exhibit symptoms of hypervitaminosis a from excessive 13 cis retinoic acid intake

2. We suffer from lack of bile movement from vicious beta glucuronidation cycle which (when fat is consumed) (ps fat is the only way to dissolve fat soluble vitamin a and e) only reactivates fat bound vitamin A stored in our liver but we are unable to displace it from our system. Basically, for toxic stuff to be removed from our system, we need to make the lipopholic toxic molecules to become more soluble in water (hydrophilic) by conjugating them with glutathione, sulfate, glycine, or glucuronic acid to facilitate diffusion out of the cell membranes and then excrete them as water (in urine and feces). Thus accutane can only be excreted as water in urine or in feces. (I presume this is why many of us re experience accutane symptoms upon taking fatty acids such as tocopherol based vitamin e or omega 3 or 6 linoeic acids because the fat molecules will bind itself to retinoic acid but we
1. Dont take supplements that accommodate conjugation. [Conjugation involves two steps. First, binding accutane to fat molecules. Second, Conversion of fat bound vitamin a to readily excreted hypophilic metabolites]
2. We suffer from chronic lack of bile movement to excrete the conjugated accutanefrom our body

3. Disruption to transsulfuration and methlyation pathway (which causes inhibition of serotonin and dopamine and causes brain problems) as mentioned above.

I think it really makes sense that all the symptoms and the underlying factors that cause all the hypervitaminosis a symptoms are interrelated. (Hence we must assume a multifaceted, pragmatic, and simplistic approach). For example, accutane dries up all mucosa membranes and deprives our body of the ability to absorb water(joint pain, chronic driedness, dehydration, dermatitis, excessive sweating and frequent urination) -------->lack of blood circulation (our cells are predominantly made of water but most of the water gets excreted without being absorbed due to damages in the cell membrane) (hypotension, erectile dysfunction, cold hands, cold feet)------------>inability to digest fat and excrete excess retinoic acid stores in our cells(damage to hippocampus, inhibition of peristalsis, limited bowel movement in the GI tract[inhibition of serotonin, brain fog and depression], IBS)------>Because we are unable to excrete the retinoic acid many of us still suffer from post accutane symptoms tens of years after our last accutane treatment. There is certainly no doubt to that because if yall dont experience something wrong with your body there wouldnt be 300+ pages of posts on this forum. Also I come to realize that either accutane has done permanent irreversible damage to our body or that there is still accutane in our bodies to make us feel what we do. If the case is former, we encounter abject hopelessness; there is nothing we can do. If it is the latter, we CAN do something about it. The next few paragraphs show why I believe the case is latter:

because as I said before, the body follows a strictly linear and procedural pathway. We must tackle the fundamental root of the issue. A lot of you guys are on spot with the supplements that you suggest but I really believe that the supplements must be taken in order and strict time intervals to facilitate drug metabolism and maximize its effects. I personally have taken this issue with a strictly pragmatic and multifaceted mindset. I know, from intuition, and others stories, research, and experience that all the underlying accutane symptoms are interconnected. This is the case with everything that occurs in the body. Everything in the body follows a strictly procedural pathway. If you eradicate the root of the problem (well that is to never have taken accutane which is too late by now) we can all live happy lives. I believe that the case is latter because I have felt a blatantly noticeable change both mentally and physically through modifications to the diet and supplemental intakes. The following, I believe, is the most reasonable cure considering all the aforementioned symptoms and mechanism of action (procedural) in which accutane is metabolized in our system. Again, I want to emphasize the fact that my treatment is not scientifically verified (although the symptoms and mechanism of action of accutane metabolism is already scientifically proved in the community). Please follow the following procedures (if you do choose to listen to me) step by step

1. Take a lot of vitamin E (tocopherol based) and omega 6 fatty acids (olive oil/sesame oil) to bind the vitamin A to fat molecules. I recommend a liver flush which incorporates a cup full of olive oil followed by some grapefruit juice. I personally have tried it and it is too disgusting so I took a dietary holistic approach. I start off my meal with some vitamin E supplements, evening primrose oil, and a spinach (for the betaine) salad with balsamic dressing (and I add extra sesame oil and olive oil along with sesame seeds or Brazilian nuts for the vitamin E, omega 6, and methionine) and I eat lots of egg yolks for the choline and betaine. I cant find the methionine but I eat ridiculous amounts of sesame seeds to make up for the methionine.

2. MSM (in Korea, they sell edible sulfur)TAKE VITAMIN K/TAKE VITAMIN E/TAKE VITAMIN B COMPLEX WITH FOLIC ACID. TAKE IRON AND VITAMIN C FOR ANEMIA OR PREFERABLY takeTake a lot of spirulina. Spirulina has all the amino acids responsible for metabolizing proteins. The significance of protein synthesizing amino acids has been frequently mentioned in this forum. Spirulina has methionine, lysine, tyrosine, glycine, cystine, etc). Of course, if you can find the supplements, take METHIONINE, take glycine, take glutathione, take choline, take betaine, take calcium d glucarate, EAT SULFUR RICH FOODS (garlic, turmeric, kale, etc)

STEPS ONE AND TWO WILL BIND THE ACCUTANE TO FAT MOLECULES AND THEN CONJUGATE IT TO MAKE IT SOLUBLE IN WATER AND EASILY EXCRETABLE

3. Wait 30 minutes-1hour for digestion. Take TAURINE supplemented with UDCA to facilitate bile movement (they sell this as TUDCA). I recommend 3 to 6 grams of taurine.

4. WAIT ANOTHER HOUR AND TAKE A CHELATING AGENT (activated charcoal). Activated charcoal has a ridiculously high surface area to bind all the (now fat bound/conjugated/) toxic materials in your bile from your stomach

5. SHIT IT ALL OUT OR PEE IT ALL OUT (you might find it hard to poop. Although TUDCA will facilitate bowel movement, activated charcoal makes it hard stalls bowel movement)

6. Next day, shit/pee then take milk thistle and hylauronic acid (or eat shark fin soup or broth made from beef cartilage Eat the cartilages and the fatty stuff) and rest

7. Next day, repeat steps 1-6.

I know that everyone who sees this feels what I feel. I know that we are all in this together (actually I made a post couple days ago but I oversimplified everything as I was too lazy to write this much. I wasnt this passionate back then and self dubious because I have taken so many supplements as suggested in this forum but never took it in systematic intervals. I didnt know that taking the supplements in systematic intervals would bring about such a huge impact to the whole supplemental routine. ANYWAYS I realized that there is no point in me getting better for the sake of myself because I know that there are tens of thousands of people out there who are on the same boat) I just want the best out of everyone who sees this in the same way that I want the best for myself. I dont want to be on this forum again or search accutane repair on the search tab. I hope everybody gets cured and feel healthy. If you guys have further questions, comments, or disagreements please send me a message on [removed]. My name is on [removed]. You can just copy paste the name on the search tab.

This has been day 2 of the treatment. On day one, I felt different. It was so blatant. Within hours after taking the charcoal I felt a series of warm electric pulses running through my body. I felt like my blood was circulating again. I felt liberated and I felt like all that tension and joint pain was greatly diminished. After I took a poop and urinated quite a few times, I felt even better. The next few days, I felt like my brain fog was getting better. Now, I feel like I am getting sick. I actually feel like this is a good thing (as this is the first time being sick since taking accutane). I feel like my body is slowly getting out of its irregular cell proliferation cycle and now going back to its normal state. Because there is a marked decrease in white blood cells, I am getting sick again! I definitely do feel a change too. I am writing this at 2:30 am and I dont feel tired at all even though I barely slept. I am just waiting to see if this improvement and general well-being is permanent even after I stop my routine.

Hey guys, i took accutane about 9 months ago and i am still experiencing some long term side effects. I totally regret my choice to go on this poison but there is nothing that can be done about the past, sadly. The crazy thing is i only took 35mg for 2.5 months. Within the first month i developed female breast tissue and my libido crashed completely (i used to be constantly horny due to my above average testosterone/dht levels) . Looking at a female didn't warrant the same response that it did a mere month ago, i knew something was wrong. I also felt as if i was emotionally blunted. A lot of the things that would induce anger in me no longer did and a lot of things that induced happiness in me did not anymore, it was a constant feeling and i hated it. I would rather feel pain than nothing at all. I stopped after 2 months because i thought it would prevent permanent irreparable damage and i'm glad i did. 9 months later and i think there is light at the end of the tunnel, my mind is becoming more clear and my cognitive functions seem to be returning to their normal state. My body composition (fat started to accumulate around my hips which is a sign of estrogen dominance) is reverting back to pre-tane state and the breast tissue is shrinking. My libido is also starting to go back to that of a teenager in the climax of puberty (i'm 19). Has anybody else experience similar things? As in your body slowly returning to normal.

On 1/13/2016 at 11:16 PM, tae said:

  Hey yall. Quick introduction. I am a 21 year old male from Seoul, South Korea. I took accutane towards the end of 2012 and have since suffered from symptoms of hypervitaminosis A and other health complications. There are a lot of smart people on this forum contributing valuable information (although some info Seems quite bogus and self contradictory)but everything is so scattered and disorganized I find It crucial to establish some sort of consensus with regards to possible treatment to the long term side effects of accutane. It really makes me sad that a lot of information from independent sources and even on this forum are way too professional for laymen to understand and process. Thus, I find that it is my duty to summarize months of studying and make information more available to the general audience. Based on months of research, scrutinizing the forum and independent research we can surely establish the following:

 

1. Symptoms

 

I. Brain fog and memory problems (plus depression)  

 

II. Joint pain, arthritis and general unease in movement

 

III. Erectile dysfunction and lack of pleasure in sexual activities  

 

IV. Dry skin from lack of sebum production and drying up of mucous membranes (dry eyes)

 

V. Chronic dehydration from Inability to hold water which in turn causes dry skin and joint problems  

 

VI. Excessive Sweating and frequent urination (ie, This goes back to V. in that accutane makes our cells incapable to hold water molecules and we are thus unable to absorb water. For example when I drink x amount of water I will subsequently urinate 95% of the water I consumed within 30 minutes. Same happens when I exercise or go to the sauna I will excrete all the water consumed via sweating)

 

VI. Pale stool (IBS)from inability to digest fatty esters and chronic and vicious beta glucuronidation cycle

 

VII. Jaundice

 

VIII. Chronic fatigue (almost like a hangover state)

 

And many more

 

In addition these are some weird symptoms that I have personally experienced

 

1. Inability to remember dreams, learning disabilities (similar to Alzheimers) and loss of directional sense (I presume this is because accutane damages the retinoic receptor proteins (g coupled) which consequently damages the hippocampus responsible for memory and spacial recognition

 

2. Cold hands and cold feet accompanied with chronic head fever, chills, nausea, chronic fatigue (hypotension, lack of blood circulation, and damage to hypothalamus which is responsible for temperature homeostasis, damage to the neuroendocrine system thyroid and pituitary glands) 

 

 3. Depression/bipolar/ocd/general indifference or inability to control emotions marked by diminished sense of pleasure (inhibition of serotonin production which is primarily (90%) produced in the enterchromaffin cells in the GI tract and then circulated to the brain and the amygdala) (this is because our body's bowel movement and peristaltis is limited from lack of bile production which might be a cause of serotonin inhibition depression and mood swings.

 

4. Seborrhoeic dermatitis (this is irregular growth of a patch of skin which sheds at a different rate from the rest of your body)

 

5. I realized that I get drunk quicker and more easily after taking accutane. Also the hangover the day after alcohol is the worst. I presume that this is because our body has to use amino acids as enzymes to convert ethanol to acetaldehyde to acetic acid for fatty acid biosynthesis OR through alcohol catabolism via sulfotransferase. Our body is messed up in the sense that it can™t digest fat due to limited bile movement (expanded further below). Therefore, the alcohol just accumulates in our body whilst non accutane users can metabolize within 8hours or so.

 

5. General lethargy, not feeling refreshed after a goodnight™s sleep, feling like shit (extremely tired) but never actually getting sick (I™ve never got colds or fever since accutane) I think this is because accutane induces apoptosis (programmed cell death) our body in turn has to make up for the dead cells so our body is constantly being overworked and overcooked to make up for the loss of cells (hence feeling extremely tired)  through cell regeneration this causes our cells to die and regenerate at irregularly fast rates (hence the excessive skin shedding you experience on accutane and seborrhoeic dermatitis on patches of skin after accutane days [I have this on my ears]) its not only your skin that grows at ridiculously fast rates but also other cells in your body (i.e. white blood cells. I got a health checkup and found out that I had a ridiculously high white blood cell count). Remember? Accutane is a chemo drug. This means it is designed to induce apoptosis to in turn induce cell proliferation to kill not only cancer cells but also other good cells. But modern cancer treatment relies on the assumption that cancer cells die at a faster rate than the good cells in your body and also that the white blood cells regenerate at a faster rate than cancer cells.

 

From my research this is what I come to agree with regards to possible explanations to accutane symptoms

 

1. We exhibit symptoms of hypervitaminosis a from excessive 13 cis retinoic acid intake  

 

2. We suffer from chronic lack of bile movement for the excretion)  2. We suffer from lack of bile movement from vicious beta glucuronidation cycle which (when fat is consumed) (ps fat is the only way to dissolve fat soluble vitamin a and e) only reactivates fat bound vitamin A stored in our liver but we are unable to displace it from our system. Basically, for toxic stuff to be removed from our system, we need to make the lipopholic toxic molecules to become more soluble in water (hydrophilic) by conjugating them with glutathione, sulfate, glycine, or glucuronic acid to facilitate diffusion out of the cell membranes and then excrete them as water (in urine and feces). Thus accutane can only be excreted as water in urine or in feces. (I presume this is why many of us re experience accutane symptoms upon taking fatty acids such as tocopherol based vitamin e or omega 3 or 6 linoeic acids because the fat molecules will bind itself to retinoic acid but we 1. Don™t take supplements that accommodate conjugation. [Conjugation involves two steps. First, binding accutane to fat molecules. Second, Conversion of fat bound vitamin a to readily excreted hypophilic metabolites]

 

3. Disruption to transsulfuration and methlyation pathway (which causes inhibition of serotonin and dopamine and causes brain problems) as mentioned above.

 

I think it really makes sense that all the symptoms and the underlying factors that cause all the hypervitaminosis a symptoms are interrelated. (Hence we must assume a multifaceted, pragmatic, and simplistic approach). For example, accutane dries up all mucosa membranes and deprives our body of the ability to absorb water(joint pain, chronic driedness, dehydration, dermatitis, excessive sweating and frequent urination)  lack of blood circulation (our cells are predominantly made of water but most of the water gets excreted without being absorbed due to damages in the cell membrane) (hypotension, erectile dysfunction, cold hands, cold feet) inability to digest fat and excrete excess retinoic acid stores in our cells(damage to hippocampus, inhibition of peristalsis, limited bowel movement in the GI tract[inhibition of serotonin, brain fog and depression], IBS) Because we are unable to excrete the retinoic acid many of us still suffer from post accutane symptoms tens of years after our last accutane treatment. There is certainly no doubt to that because if yall don™t experience something wrong with your body there wouldn™t be 300+ pages of posts on this forum. Also I come to realize that either accutane has done permanent irreversible damage to our body or that there is still accutane in our bodies to make us feel what we do. If the case is former, we encounter abject hopelessness; there is nothing we can do. If it is the latter, we CAN do something about it. The next few paragraphs show why I believe the case is latter:

 

because as I said before, the body follows a strictly linear and procedural pathway. We must tackle the fundamental root of the issue. A lot of you guys are on spot with the supplements that you suggest but I really believe that the supplements must be taken in order and strict time intervals to facilitate drug metabolism and maximize its effects.  I personally have taken this issue with a strictly pragmatic and multifaceted mindset. I know, from intuition, and others™ stories, research, and experience that all the underlying accutane symptoms are interconnected. This is the case with everything that occurs in the body. Everything in the body follows a strictly procedural pathway. If you eradicate the root of the problem (well that is to never have taken accutane which is too late by now) we can all live happy lives. I believe that the case is latter because I have felt a blatantly noticeable change both mentally and physically through modifications to the diet and supplemental intakes. The following, I believe, is the most reasonable cure considering all the aforementioned symptoms and mechanism of action (procedural) in which accutane is metabolized in our system. Again, I want to emphasize the fact that my treatment is not scientifically verified (although the symptoms and mechanism of action of accutane metabolism is already scientifically proved in the community). Please follow the following procedures (if you do choose to listen to me) step by step

 

1.      Take a lot of vitamin E (tocopherol based) and omega 6 fatty acids (olive oil/sesame oil) to bind the vitamin A to fat molecules. I recommend a liver flush which incorporates a cup full of olive oil followed by some grapefruit juice. I personally have tried it and it is too disgusting so I took a dietary holistic approach. I start off my meal with some vitamin E supplements, evening primrose oil, and a spinach (for the betaine) salad with balsamic dressing (and I add extra sesame oil and olive oil along with sesame seeds or Brazilian nuts for the vitamin E, omega 6, and methionine) and I eat lots of egg yolks for the choline and betaine. I can™t find the methionine but I eat ridiculous amounts of sesame seeds to make up for the methionine.

 

2.      MSM (in Korea, they sell edible sulfur)TAKE VITAMIN K/TAKE VITAMIN E/TAKE VITAMIN B COMPLEX WITH FOLIC ACID. TAKE IRON AND VITAMIN C FOR ANEMIA  OR PREFERABLY take Take a lot of spirulina. Spirulina has all the amino acids responsible for metabolizing proteins. The significance of protein synthesizing amino acids has been frequently mentioned in this forum. Spirulina has methionine, lysine, tyrosine, glycine, cystine, etc). Of course, if you can find the supplements, take METHIONINE, take glycine, take glutathione, take choline, take betaine, take calcium d glucarate, EAT SULFUR RICH FOODS (garlic, turmeric, kale, etc)

 

 

 

 

 

 

STEPS ONE AND TWO WILL BIND THE ACCUTANE TO FAT MOLECULES AND THEN CONJUGATE IT TO MAKE IT SOLUBLE IN WATER AND EASILY œEXCRETABLE

 

 

 

 

3.      Wait 30 minutes-1hour for digestion. Take TAURINE supplemented with UDCA to facilitate bile movement (they sell this as TUDCA). I recommend 3 to 6 grams of taurine.

 

4.      WAIT ANOTHER HOUR AND TAKE A CHELATING AGENT (activated charcoal). Activated charcoal has a ridiculously high surface area to bind all the (now fat bound/conjugated/) toxic materials in your bile from your stomach

 

5.      SHIT IT ALL OUT OR PEE IT ALL OUT (you might find it hard to poop. Although TUDCA will facilitate bowel movement, activated charcoal makes it hard stalls bowel movement)

 

6.      Next day, shit/pee then take milk thistle and hylauronic acid (or eat shark fin soup or broth made from beef cartilage Eat the cartilages and the fatty stuff) and rest

 

7.      Next day, repeat steps 1-6.

 

 

 

 

I know that everyone who sees this feels what I feel. I know that we are all in this together (actually I made a post couple days ago but I oversimplified everything as I was too lazy to write this much. I wasn™t this passionate back then and self dubious because I have taken so many supplements as suggested in this forum but never took it in systematic intervals. I didn™t know that taking the supplements in systematic intervals would bring about such a huge impact to the whole supplemental routine. ANYWAYS I realized that there is no point in me getting better for the sake of myself because I know that there are tens of thousands of people out there who are on the same boat) I just want the best out of everyone who sees this in the same way that I want the best for myself. I don™t want to be on this forum again or search accutane repair on the search tab. I hope everybody gets cured and feel healthy. If you guys have further questions, comments, or disagreements please send me a message on [removed]. My name is ‚¨¶œ©on [removed]. You can just copy paste the name on the search tab.

 

 

 

 

This has been day 2 of the treatment. On day one, I felt different. It was so blatant. Within hours after taking the charcoal I felt a series of warm electric pulses running through my body. I felt like my blood was circulating again. I felt liberated and I felt like all that tension and joint pain was greatly diminished. After I took a poop and urinated quite a few times, I felt even better. The next few days, I felt like my brain fog was getting better. Now, I feel like I am getting sick. I actually feel like this is a good thing (as this is the first time being sick since taking accutane). I feel like my body is slowly getting out of its irregular cell proliferation cycle and now going back to its normal state. Because there is a marked decrease in white blood cells, I am getting sick again! I definitely do feel a change too. I am writing this at 2:30 am and I don™t feel tired at all even though I barely slept. I am just waiting to see if this improvement and general well-being is permanent even after I stop my routine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

In response to the last part, i thought it was just me! I haven't gotten a cold in about 7 moths which was certainly not the case before accutane. I mean nobody likes colds but it seemed strange to me that i have been perfectly fine for so long.

Great post @tae!

Please keep us updated on your progress, and good luck!

19 hours ago, yetanotheraccutanevictim said:The guy who is the most knowledgeable on its use says oral administration is NOT effective. I wouldn't waste the CD. Either shoot it up IV or make a suppository. Suppository may be better than IV due to it going STRAIGHT to the liver where we assume most metabolites are stored.

Gees, i hope this works because for petes sake my body does not like the finger up the ass.

Hey Guys. I've been on 2 rounds of accutane (one in 2012 and one in 2013) and I used to frequent this forum quite a bit. Want to know what made my side effects vanish? Not constantly reading these toxic forums about "post-accutane side effects." Please just consider that a lot of what you're experiencing is in your head. I know that sounds rather unsympathetic, but in many of these cases (not all) its probably the truth. A lot of the stuff I used to obsess about proved to be delusions I acquired from constantly reading this thread as well as many others. I know this may piss some folks off, but unfortunately its probably the truth for many of you. Go one month without obsessing over Accutane (no more forums, health sites, or reading about supplements) and just see how much better you'll feel.

10 minutes ago, sunsetblvd said:

Hey Guys. I've been on 2 rounds of accutane (one in 2012 and one in 2013) and I used to frequent this forum quite a bit. Want to know what made my side effects vanish? Not constantly reading these toxic forums about "post-accutane side effects." Please just consider that a lot of what you're experiencing is in your head. I know that sounds rather unsympathetic, but in many of these cases (not all) its probably the truth. A lot of the stuff I used to obsess about proved to be delusions I acquired from constantly reading this thread as well as many others. I know this may piss some folks off, but unfortunately its probably the truth for many of you. Go one month without obsessing over Accutane (no more forums, health sites, or reading about supplements) and just see how much better you'll feel.

ignorance is bliss isnt it? I feel good for you, but you should take your own advice. We are nothypochondriacs.This shit isnt just in my head that I can make go poof!

7 hours ago, Jedaii said:

Excessive Sweating and frequent urination (ie, This goes back to V. in that accutane makes our cells incapable to hold water molecules and we are thus unable to absorb water. For example when I drink x amount of water I will subsequently urinate 95% of the water I consumed within 30 minutes. Same happens when I exercise or go to the sauna I will excrete all the water consumed via sweating)

This is a funny thing. My face hardly ever sweats any more and I hardly ever have to urinate. Hell, if my face was able to sweat good, I would feel I was on my way to healing myself.I believe there must be some chronic inflammation there that prevents this, that also maybe affecting our vision. Great post btw. You are fighting the good fight. I am optimistic for your treatment but being your only a few days into it you'll have to give us an update if you continue to feel better im sure there will be up and down days but dont get discouraged!
If only we had a way to know we were making progress. I think out of all the things/supplements people have tried we have probably graced the surface of the problem and not even known it. like searching for a missing person that was so close, if we had just continued down that same path a little bit longer...

This anything?
Detecting retinoic acid-induced biochemical alterations
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1288/00005537-199403000-00007/abstract
Spectroscopic scans demonstrated consistently that RA-treated MTS exhibit a decrease in the peak associated with reduced nicotinamide-adenine dinucleotide (NADH) and an increase in the peaks associated with flavins, tryptophan, and cytokeratins when compared to controls. These findings are suggestive of alterations in cellular electron transport, an increase in proteins incorporating tryptophan, and a decrease in adenosine triphosphate (ATP) in the RA-treated cells.

I Think it is. This is a fairly new method of looking at live tissue and the effects that retinoic acid had on them.
Any thoughts?

LOOK AT THIS!
http://dmd.aspetjournals.org/content/31/4/476.short
RIBOFLAVINMETABOLIZESACCUTANE IN THE LIVER!
(drops the mic)

On 1/13/2016, 4:04:09, sunsetblvd said:

Hey Guys. I've been on 2 rounds of accutane (one in 2012 and one in 2013) and I used to frequent this forum quite a bit. Want to know what made my side effects vanish? Not constantly reading these toxic forums about "post-accutane side effects." Please just consider that a lot of what you're experiencing is in your head. I know that sounds rather unsympathetic, but in many of these cases (not all) its probably the truth. A lot of the stuff I used to obsess about proved to be delusions I acquired from constantly reading this thread as well as many others. I know this may piss some folks off, but unfortunately its probably the truth for many of you. Go one month without obsessing over Accutane (no more forums, health sites, or reading about supplements) and just see how much better you'll feel.

Toxic forums? That's pretty funny. And Ironic. Considering...

And yes, that's how neurological symptoms work. It's technically "in your head."

I've been living with post retinoid secondary intracranial pressure, among a plethora of other side effects, similar to the ones others here are experiencing as well (what a coincidence) for 8 years after my treatment, which has been diagnosed by a neurologist.

Do you really think a company opts to put waivers about side effects on their drugs? That it's just red tape that pharma companies just have to put on there because people LOVE to complain. The FDA makes them, from real medical reports, from real people, that have to live with this.

The odds are that most people will have a SUCCESSFUL treatment of Accutane. And no one here is denying that. It can be a viable treatment. The drug did actually get rid of 98% of my acne, after only a month of "treatment".I've met people with successful treatments. I've met people with unsuccessful treatments. We here on this "toxic forum" advocate the treatment only for heavy acne individials. not mild. not moderate. While the evidence is lacking at the moment, due to technology limitations, and for some unforeseen genetic reason, it causes adverse affects to a percentage of the population, and that percentage is seemingly growing thanks to the internet and communication.

And yet here we have another Pro accutane user who completely refutes the idea of these so called 'side effects' from a pharmaceutical medication that "they themselves took."

After 8 years of researching this drug, and medicine, one comes to the conclusion that they aren't as intelligent as they think they are. I understand that it's human nature to pacify things, or simplify it, to better understand it, but the majority of people that take this drug, and prescribe it, are out of their depth. To be so sure and draw a line in the sand on a topic that they are not an expert in (and neither are the doctors prescribing it)...You know, why don't we pick sides over climate change? There's a scientific issue where professionals are split about the validity of claims. Let's both have contrasting opinions and cite lack of data as evidence. Or why don't we keep an open mind, look at current data, educate ourselves, and implement precautionary measures, just in case. 2,000 dermatologists were polled in a scientific study, 30% of them would not prescribe accutane, because of the side effects. And yet and still, they are not scientists. They don't have the answers. And neither do you with your positive firsthand experience or me with my negative.

Why not just be thankful you are not on this end of the spectrum? Why treat strangers online with disdain? To frequent an acne site to purport your "Positive" message and take multiple courses of a powerful pharmaceutical drug, seems odd, seems a bit obsessive, acne or not. At least we have an excuse to be here year after year.

Trust me, you couldn't handle the side effects that I deal with. In fact, me as a human at 70% will be better than you at 100% any day. And getting rid of your acne won't change that.

So, take a 3rd round while your at it and don't forget to recommend it to family and friends. Heck, Give it to your kids if and when you have them, because more than likely, with your genetics, they'll need it too. Now we're playing with real money on the table. Keep fighting the 'good' fight champ.

5 hours ago, macleod said:

been living with post retinoid secondary intracranial pressure

What test diagnosed this? I recently seen a neurologist. And he recommended a couple test. My mri and CT scan were normal.

1 hour ago, guitarman01 said:

7 hours ago, macleod said:

What test diagnosed this? I recently seen a neurologist. And he recommended a couple test. My mri and CT scan were normal.

cerebrospinal fluid measurements and a combination of signs and symptoms (tinnitus, papilledema, headache, insomnia). You would know if you have it. However, I'm more concerned about all the other sides that most of us have in common. And I'm thankful I got this super rare one over the libido one.

Riboflavin, Taking 1200mgs a day and my shits are smelling sulfur as hell.
check my last posts.
anyone else tried this yet?

There seems to be debate on this forum about whether or not we should be supplementing vitamins A, D and K2
For those of you who supplement with these vitamins, what are your reasons for doing so?
For those of you who don't, what are your reasons for avoiding them?
I recently found a supplement containing vitamins A, D and K2 in the below ratios.
I'm considering taking one serving (capsule) 2-3 times a week. Comments?

Do you take Glycine supplement for the liver, or only Methionine & Taurine?
What does our liver need? More Glucuronidation, Methylation (And Bile I know its important)

ok no one take 1200mg a day of b2 lol my kidneys are hurting right now. gona drop back to 400-800mg a day split up
ok update everything im reading says riboflavin is very safe even in high doses and no mention of kidney pain anywhere.
So are there actual detox effects going on here? who the f*ck knows.

So if this is all in the liver, what would happen if we had a liver transplant? But on a more serious note has there been any peer review studies to ease the long term side effects of accutane?

I mean is what we're trying to do here for pretty much nothing. I almost assume turn a blind eye towards it like I have in the past, but then a symptom flares up and reminds me of all this and I just wish a way out of it.

4 minutes ago, Cory90 said:

So if this is all in the liver, what would happen if we had a liver transplant? But on a more serious note has there been any peer review studies to ease the long term side effects of accutane?

What long term side effects? Its not the accutane...

8 minutes ago, guitarman01 said:

What long term side effects? Its not the accutane...

So if this is all in the liver, what would happen if we had a liver transplant? But on a more serious note has there been any peer review studies to ease the long term side effects of accutane?

whats your point.