Notifications
Clear all

Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

 
MemberMember
13
(@alantookaccutanewow)

Posted : 10/15/2015 11:38 am

Either that or people are too disconnected from accutane too realize they arent the same they use to be and just think "oh my back hurts guess its normal"

And well, everyone has depression right scarcasim. The depression is unlike any other, be warned!

Quote
MemberMember
5
(@thedayacneceased)

Posted : 10/15/2015 2:04 pm

So I guess maybe not trying Accutane..

Go for it.

Go for it? This whole thread kind of explains why it hurts more than it helps.

We're a very small percentage. A larger percentage than purported by Roche, but nevertheless, uncommon.

It sounds like a risky percentage I can see myself all the more likely becoming apart of. After all, if this many active users on the forum have experienced such damaging systems, it's all too possible. Now, if it was some guy all the way down in the South Pole or in the tundras of Russia, then I'd feel more at ease.

Quote
MemberMember
13
(@alantookaccutanewow)

Posted : 10/15/2015 3:32 pm

How. Why.

Quote
MemberMember
13
(@alantookaccutanewow)

Posted : 10/15/2015 6:22 pm

I am tired of this crap. Ive held in here long enough and cant even comprehend my lack of life. I use to be "cool" and now im "lame"

Thanks accutane, for shrinking my brain region that controls how my emotions flow.

Any one else unable to get a laugh going?
Like its shit i use to have the craziest laugh

Quote
MemberMember
20
(@heinstar)

Posted : 10/15/2015 8:35 pm

Has anyone became more depressed, anxious and self-destructive after being on Roaccutane?

Somebody mentioned that antidepressants are just as bad as Roaccutane. But I'm going to have to disagree there. Every drug is different and from my experience, Lexapro/Escitalopram has been a savior for me and it has reduced my depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior that I started getting after being on 20mg Roaccutane for just 5 days. I just don't understand how Roaccutane managed to getapproved by the FDA. I feel like Roaccutane has a terrible safety profile and needs to be more tightly regulated.

Also, I didn't know this but apparantly, my mom told me that I was put on Roaccutane when I was a teenager as well (Around grade 10; 14 - 15 years old) but I had to stop taking it as well back then because I was complaining that it was too strong on my body. I don't remember taking Roaccutane as a teenger but that might explain why I started getting bad grades as a senior and started getting mental health problems after high school. I'm not saying Roaccutane is the reason why I have so many mental health problems now but it's one possibility..

In 2004, brain scans showed that people taking Accutane suffer a 21 percent decrease in activity in the orbitofrontal cortex, a brain area known to mediate symptoms of depression.3These brain changes may explain the depression, suicidal and aggressive behavior, and psychotic reactions reported by some Accutane users. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15863802

Quote
MemberMember
299
(@macleod)

Posted : 10/16/2015 4:48 am

We're all in the same boat Heinstar. It's possible this isjust agenetic coin flip. Best thing to do is work together to compare and contrast symptoms and complete detailed self reports. We also need to find what we all have in common. And while you're at it, encourage as many people as you can to take Accutane. We are a small minority, but as more people take it, our numbers too will inevitably grow.

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@callmechron)

Posted : 10/16/2015 7:20 pm

I think if there are any doctors or biology/chemistry/health enthusiasts reading this thread, who's trying to solve this accutane mystery of agony, the best thing the rest of us could do to help them in their process is to give them all the information about our own case.

I'll start;

For how long and how much accutane did you take?
I took 80mg a day for 6 months.

What was your estimated weight during the treatment?
about 85kgs

What was your age during the treatment?
20

What were your symptoms during time your accutane treatment?
Dry lips, dry eyes, dry skin, thin skin, poor healing of skin, hair loss, very sensitive to sun, dandruff, sore back, mind fog, occasional nausea, nose bleeds, shoulder not healing properly post mild gym accident.

Which symptoms are still present post your accutane treatment?
Dry lips, dry eyes, dry skin, thin skin, hair loss, sun sensitivity,mind fog, occasional nausea, shoulder still not good.

What new symptoms has evolved post your accutane treatment?
Abdominal pain, bloating, weight loss, bloody stool, anxiety, left shoulder instability, right shoulder instability + not healing properly post surgery, chronic epididymitis

Has any of your lasting symptoms improved or faded?
Little less mind fog, not as much abdominal pain/bloody stool anymore, weight is a little more stable, epididymitis not as aggressive

^If Yes - Do you know if there is a specific reason those symptoms improved?
I believe my stomach and mind fog problems improved with changing my diet to a healthier one with foods easy on the stomach. I also tried a nutritional balancing programme, which included eating 80% cooked vegetables for every meal, drinking 3l of water each day, removing sugar, wheat and some other stuff, as well as taking a bunch of supplements and just generally trying to detox your body. I believe this may have helped me with removing some of my mind fog and anxiety, though hard to tell since I didn't stay on it for more than 3 months.

How long time ago was it that you took accutane?
I took my last pill for 1,5 year ago.

Quote
MemberMember
13
(@alantookaccutanewow)

Posted : 10/16/2015 7:36 pm

I took 80mg a day too. Two 40s. Side effects i had were dry lips anger and stomach gurgling.

Side effect now at 25, five years later are: Brain fog, uneasy work ethic, anxiety, bloody stools, dry lips, erectile disfunction, sore neck and back and wrists each day when used for extended time. What else, throwing up, thin itchy hair.

Whata helped? Possibly time away from chemotherapy, and perfecto diet.

Quote
MemberMember
20
(@user461766)

Posted : 10/17/2015 9:58 am

Lucas89 - just fucking go away or shut the fuck up.

Quote
macleod, TopHat44, macleod and 3 people reacted
MemberMember
20
(@user461766)

Posted : 10/17/2015 10:09 am

Just take the fucking accutane already

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@callmechron)

Posted : 10/17/2015 10:13 am

Hey everyone! Please fill this in if you have taken accutane and want to help in the search for a cure of lasting symptoms.

For how long and how much accutane did you take?


What was your estimated weight during the treatment?


What was your age during the treatment?


What were your symptoms during time your accutane treatment?


Which symptoms are still present post your accutane treatment?


What new symptoms has evolved post your accutane treatment?


Has any of your lasting symptoms improved or faded?

^If Yes - Do you know if there is a specific reason those symptoms improved?


How long time ago was it that you took accutane?

Quote
MemberMember
14
(@lolaccutane)

Posted : 10/17/2015 9:59 pm

Can you help me with supplements, tips for dealing with this,is is typical? My shortness of breath is really worrying (I have yet another doctor's visit in a few days time).

Yeah I get shortness of breath too, usually seemingly without a cause, but more commonly right after eating. It also happens if I smoke too much cannabis (something I've been using strategically for motivation and creativity). This symptom has gotten better as I've balanced my health over the last year but it's not gone yet. I'm not sure specifically what the problem is but I know it got somewhat better (probably 10-20% when I added in a digestive enzyme that had ox bile in it. I remember reading something about the hormone cck and tachycardia, but it kinda went over my head and I haven't come back to it yet.

 

For my joints and that heavy feeling in my legs that makes it hard to wake up, grass fed collagen protein has done wonders. Vital protein and bulletproof collagen are probably the highest quality but I recently switched back to Great Lakes brand which is much cheaper and it's working well too. It's also high in glycine which according to semi recent posts on this thread, looks like it should help. I guess you can also drink bone broth for this benefit, but collagen is just more convenient for me. It also makes sense to have collagen regularly to balance out your amino acid profile. Too much methionine without glycine seems like a bad idea. The shooting pains in my arms went down as I balanced my system. As unscientific as it sounds, it's probably just "inflammation" and eating more of the right foods, less of the bad ones, sealing my gut a littler better, collagen, and fish oil all helped make different parts of my body feel less inflamed and over time the shooting pains pretty much stopped. My vision is still kinda blurry, and I'm wondering what to do for it. My friend swears by the bates method, basically eye yoga, for getting rid of his visual snow so I may try it.

 

For my stomach, some supps like zinc carnosine (pepzin gi), fish/krill oil, lactobacillus plantarum 299v, all had a noticeable impact (thought not massive), when I started them. Krill oil also makes me feel happy and improves my memory. Magnesium makes me feel level headed. Also I think it makes sense for everyone alive in 2015, not just Accutane victims, to balance the gut of its bacteria and do a low grade weeding and seeding basically killing stuff off and trying to replace it with better stuff. Seems to be working for me and a month in, this protocol has had the biggest benefit on my gut health.

 

I use unpasteurized packaged fermented foods regularly and lots of fiber rich carbs and a decent amount of high quality fat and protein. Keep it simple (read: stress free), junk food and toxin exposure is bad long term but probably necessary and beneficial every now and then, do what your grandparents probably did, get some morning sun, read, watch interviews, be a learner (in every field) reengineer your life to have genuine happiness and have small wins everywhere, and keep progressing in other places in life. Or at least that's how I deal with it...

 

Can you help me with supplements, tips for dealing with this,is is typical? My shortness of breath is really worrying (I have yet another doctor's visit in a few days time).

Yeah I get shortness of breath too, usually seemingly without a cause, but more commonly right after eating. It also happens if I smoke too much cannabis (something I've been using strategically for motivation and creativity). This symptom has gotten better as I've balanced my health over the last year but it's not gone yet. I'm not sure specifically what the problem is but I know it got somewhat better (probably 10-20% when I added in a digestive enzyme that had ox bile in it. I remember reading something about the hormone cck and tachycardia, but it kinda went over my head and I haven't come back to it yet.

 

For my joints and that heavy feeling in my legs that makes it hard to wake up, grass fed collagen protein has done wonders. Vital protein and bulletproof collagen are probably the highest quality but I recently switched back to Great Lakes brand which is much cheaper and it's working well too. It's also high in glycine which according to semi recent posts on this thread, looks like it should help. I guess you can also drink bone broth for this benefit, but collagen is just more convenient for me. It also makes sense to have collagen regularly to balance out your amino acid profile. Too much methionine without glycine seems like a bad idea. The shooting pains in my arms went down as I balanced my system. As unscientific as it sounds, it's probably just "inflammation" and eating more of the right foods, less of the bad ones, sealing my gut a littler better, collagen, and fish oil all helped make different parts of my body feel less inflamed and over time the shooting pains pretty much stopped. My vision is still kinda blurry, and I'm wondering what to do for it. My friend swears by the bates method, basically eye yoga, for getting rid of his visual snow so I may try it.

 

For my stomach, some supps like zinc carnosine (pepzin gi), fish/krill oil, lactobacillus plantarum 299v, all had a noticeable impact (thought not massive), when I started them. Krill oil also makes me feel happy and improves my memory. Magnesium makes me feel level headed. Also I think it makes sense for everyone alive in 2015, not just Accutane victims, to balance the gut of its bacteria and do a low grade weeding and seeding basically killing stuff off and trying to replace it with better stuff. Seems to be working for me and a month in, this protocol has had the biggest benefit on my gut health.

 

I use unpasteurized packaged fermented foods regularly and lots of fiber rich carbs and a decent amount of high quality fat and protein. Keep it simple (read: stress free), junk food and toxin exposure is bad long term but probably necessary and beneficial every now and then, do what your grandparents probably did, get some morning sun, read, watch interviews, be a learner (in every field) reengineer your life to have genuine happiness and have small wins everywhere, and keep progressing in other places in life. Or at least that's how I deal with it...

Thank you for getting back to me and all thetips.
I've changed my diet andscrapped the sugar (apart from fruit),caffeine, alcohol (well, most)and somewheat andeat lots of omega-3 rich and anit-inflammatory foods and lots of nuts and kefir.I'm limiting Vit A at the moment as it gives me red spot rush on my face.
I drink a 'tea' I make myself using ginger, turmeric,cinnamon and some cayenne pepperpowder (all anit-inflammatory and cheap) with lemon and xylitol (natural sweetener that's good for your teeth which helps with dry mouth's rampant tooth decay). I also drinklots of tulsi tea to relax and licorice(again, anit-inflammatory), rooibosand black tea for antioxidants. It's mad, all I eat is anti-inflammatory, full of antioxidants and 'good for me',but I still feel horrible.GIhas been fine for the last two weeks, probably due to the diet change.

- Do you find the probiotics essential? Is it good for your gut long term?
- Collagen wise, I've read somewhere it may damage your kidneys and liver if used long term. How long have you been using it for,what do you think? I'm going to try the bone broth, some people say it's the only thing that helps.
- As for magnesium, do you mix different magnesium supplements?I have here,amongothers :), magnesium taurate,magnesium glycinate and orotate, but I'm not sure how to alternate forbest results

Has anyone triedmalic acid? It sounds like we all have some form of Fibromyalgia and Sjogren's syndromejudging by the symptoms. They recommend magnesium and malic acid forFibromyalgia

I started feeling slightly nauseous, dizzy andunbalanced, not nice. I'm struggling to work and concentrate and yet being busy seems to be the best way to somehow get on with life and take your mind of what's happening with your body for a while.

P.S Has anyone been feelingnauseous, dizzy andunbalanced? What to do to address that?

The first time I felt that I have a chance at feeling normal was when I took a probiotic called Elixa, a very high dose, short term one. My gut felt perfect for the first time in a year, mood was better, skin better, all after 3 days. I initially took it for 12 days (they sell it in 6 day packages) and stopped after that. The results slowly faded away and everything came back, albeit not as bad. It gave me the feeling of good health though so I knew it was possible. I think probiotic supps and probiotic foods are both important, but its like asking if it's good to take vitamins. It depends on what vitamin (or strain of bacteria), and what you're trying to fix. I think it's a good idea to at least eat fermented foods.

Never heard that about collagen other than excess protein in general. I could be wrong about that though. I don't have too much protein anyway, I don't think it's a good idea and whatever you do intake should be balanced between the amino acids via organs, bone broth, or just collagen powder.

I take mag malate, which is bound to malic acid,everyday (anywhere from 250-750 mg, depending on what Idid and how convenient it is to take)and took mag-threonate for a bit, it worked for memory, but not enough to warrant a dollar a day. I plan on mixing it up and using diff forms, just never got to it. I think diff systems in the body thrive on diff chelated forms of minerals and it's good to be diverse on supplementation.

Anyone use liposomal vitamin c? A friend's mother saidshe uses it topically on her gums and says it cured her gingivitis. It helps stimulate collagen synthesis, but not sure if it'll help any of us with that. I started taking 1g a day as a general immune supplement, but might try 3-5g intermittently and see if it makes a noticeable difference on oral health, mental clarity, or skin (recently lost lot of weight and have some extra skin). Lots of people swear by it and a couple people I know use it daily and make their own.

And for anyone asking what to use instead of accutane, swedish bitters cured my friends acne, probably by improving bile flow and liver detox. It's a combination of liver cleansing herbs that stimulate the gallbladder and liver to get moving. He also swears by it for digestion and am going to start taking it soon to try and get my body to make the correct levels of stomach acid and bile without having to supplement like I currently do. Good health is a moving target.

Quote
MemberMember
1
(@mitch-uk)

Posted : 10/18/2015 5:41 am

 

Hey I would like to share a side effect that I previously forgot to mention, because I believe this side effect is yet again more proof that isotretinoin affects the brain, even when you finish taking the drug. Ive done a lot of reading regarding the side effects of isotretinoin, both long term and short term side effects. As some of you may have read my previous posts, i only took roaccutane for 1 month. However I will do my best to explain the side effects the best I can. But i think isotretinoin/roaccutane has changed my brain because when I look at peoples faces for example in the street, I find it difficult to distinguish that person from somebody i know. I will often see somebody, and for some reason I will think they look very similar to somebody I have already met before, to the point where I almost shout their name, but of course its not them. I just think it looks like them. This side effect is very strange and i still have this even after a year of stopping accutane. This doesnt happen all the time, just sometimes when i forget to take my supplements. does anyone else have this unusual side effect?

 

 

Bro you are not alone just look the second post after your own post !

-MISSCHRISY

this member told the same side effect just like you.

I dont have brain issue like you , but there is studies who had proved accutane effect the brain and hipocampus. check them out.

Propeciahelp.com can help you btw.

Accutane is the devils drug , the company Roche should notgo away with no law charges , many people died and suicide because of Accutane.
This drives me crazy..
If my problems will not go away in few years i bet im going to take a revenge for all of ussomehow.
Nearlly noneof the side effects people fighting with heretold by ourdoctorsand company Roche.

World is totally away from justice..
Money talks , our life means nothing for these companies..

 

Isottetinoin does affect the brain. I was in touch with a doctor who studied the effect on mice and it clearly shows the effect on the brain. My son now nearly 6 years after taking this drug is left with joint pain, eye sensativity where he cannot look at TVs or mobile phone screen etc. He also has Tinitus ( ringing in his ears) . If he cannot sleep or has disturbed sleep he feels really ill the following day.

Quote
MemberMember
10
(@manalesenicola)

Posted : 10/18/2015 10:19 am

What do you guys think of using Increlex (pharmaceutical igf-1)
High dose would even cause acne because it increases indirectly testosterone and metabolism.
Only problem its VERY expensive.

Quote
MemberMember
47
(@walden-rev)

Posted : 10/18/2015 12:06 pm

So who is currently taking TUDCA and what are your experiences so far?

I'm asking this because I seem to be less bloated, anyone else experiences this?

Quote
MemberMember
33
(@ihateaccutane)

Posted : 10/18/2015 3:18 pm

What if the problems on here are not caused by Accutane? I've known people that have complained about all these problems and they never took prescription medication. I've met someone who said that they were normal their whole lives and then one day they just started having lethargy, brain fog, loss of enjoyment, erectile dysfunction, anxiety, etc. all at once... and they never took medication, did drugs, etc. They said they got it in their early 20's and years later it never went away.

There are groups of propecia sufferes (propeciahelp.com), ssri sufferers (pssdforum.com), accutane sufferers (here and allthingsmale forum). They all took medications and have similar problems.Could you please share any forum or source where people get togetherdue tosimilar symptoms, who never touched medication?

Quote
MemberMember
28
(@trantran83333)

Posted : 10/18/2015 3:57 pm

Hi guys just wanted to let everyone who hasn't found an answer to reversing accutane damage, I want to share my experience 

i suffered 3 years of dry blood shot red eyes, 
IBS or IBD I don't know....
chronic fatigue
sinuses
and recently jaundice of the  skin and eyes.

i have been following this page for a while now. I see a lot of you suffering as well, that is sad and upsets me. 

I have never gave up searching for a cure. 
Tried vitamins, Chinese herbalist and their bitters. 
I eat healthy these days. More greens, mostly fish, little chicken and no red meats. My liver can't process red meats or junk food.

I gave up on doctors eversince accutane, my mentality is, they will give me another pill to fix one problem but cause a majority of others. 

I accidentally stumbled on the gallbladder and liver flush. Didn't expect to get anything out the first go because other accutane users reported they didn't get anything out until 3rd or 4th shot.

i got heaps of stones out. They were this nice emerald green. Lots of them, mostly pea sized. I didn't count sorry I was a little grossed, it is poo after all. 

i should have done a colon cleanse before I did the flush because I was a little constipated. Shouldn't do the flush when you're constipated. I did do a colon cleanse after the flush tho and got some more stones out that way. 

I feel more energised. Clear head not this brain fog I get everyday. Let's just say this is the closest to normal I have felt in 3 years. 

Doing another flush in 3 weeks in an attempt to get more stones out but also considering a colonic this Friday to clean my bowels.

Here is the procedure I followed for the flush. 
Its so easy and cheap.
i believe it was iryry who posted it on another post....
 

image.jpeg

Quote
MemberMember
13
(@alantookaccutanewow)

Posted : 10/18/2015 6:11 pm

What do you guys think of using Increlex (pharmaceutical igf-1)
High dose would even cause acne because it increases indirectly testosterone and metabolism.
Only problem its VERY expensive.

No. Wont work more problems

Ill go second

For how long and how much accutane did you take?
I took 80mg a day for 6 months.

What was your estimated weight during the treatment?
170 lbs

What was your age during the treatment?
16

What were your symptoms during time your accutane treatment?
Dry lips, anger, bloody noses, start of the depression/fog.

Which symptoms are still present post your accutane treatment?
I dont even wanna answer this. Depression.

What if the problems on here are not caused by Accutane? I've known people that have complained about all these problems and they never took prescription medication. I've met someone who said that they were normal their whole lives and then one day they just started having lethargy, brain fog, loss of enjoyment, erectile dysfunction, anxiety, etc. all at once... and they never took medication, did drugs, etc. They said they got it in their early 20's and years later it never went away.

Cool story bud. Heres the bad news of the day for ya, youre post is one big piece of shit. Now go eat your processed walmart gmo usda food and get the hellout of here. This is accutane recovery.

God they say you cant see someones face on the internet but i can certainly read and imagine how generally unknowledable they are.

Quote
MemberMember
76
(@yetanotheraccutanevictim)

Posted : 10/18/2015 7:35 pm

On 10/19/2015 at 4:57 AM, trantran83333 said:

Hi guys just wanted to let everyone who hasn't found an answer to reversing accutane damage, I want to share my experience 

i suffered 3 years of dry blood shot red eyes, 
IBS or IBD I don't know....
chronic fatigue
sinuses
and recently jaundice of the  skin and eyes.

i have been following this page for a while now. I see a lot of you suffering as well, that is sad and upsets me. 

I have never gave up searching for a cure. 
Tried vitamins, Chinese herbalist and their bitters. 
I eat healthy these days. More greens, mostly fish, little chicken and no red meats. My liver can't process red meats or junk food.

I gave up on doctors eversince accutane, my mentality is, they will give me another pill to fix one problem but cause a majority of others. 

I accidentally stumbled on the gallbladder and liver flush. Didn't expect to get anything out the first go because other accutane users reported they didn't get anything out until 3rd or 4th shot.

i got heaps of stones out. They were this nice emerald green. Lots of them, mostly pea sized. I didn't count sorry I was a little grossed, it is poo after all. 

i should have done a colon cleanse before I did the flush because I was a little constipated. Shouldn't do the flush when you're constipated. I did do a colon cleanse after the flush tho and got some more stones out that way. 

I feel more energised. Clear head not this brain fog I get everyday. Let's just say this is the closest to normal I have felt in 3 years. 

Doing another flush in 3 weeks in an attempt to get more stones out but also considering a colonic this Friday to clean my bowels.

Here is the procedure I followed for the flush. 
Its so easy and cheap.
i believe it was iryry who posted it on another post....
 

image.jpeg

Awesome post! Thanks for sharing. You mention you feel more energized. Are there any other changes you notice about your other symptoms? Please keep us posted on your progress.
--

The best liver & gallbladder flushing method is by Andreas Moritz I believe. You may also want to look up Hulda Clark or Dr. Group's methods as well. I've compared all 3 procedures and sort of synthesized the commonalities of each protocol into this guide posted below.
[Edited link out]
Be sure to check out this video if you haven't already:
[Edited link out] (Cures all accutane symptoms with 6-14 liver flushes)

 

Quote
MemberMember
120
(@pido)

Posted : 10/19/2015 4:23 am

eye sensativity where he cannot look at TVs or mobile phone screen etc.

I've had similiar but milder symptoms and I just visited doctor because of it. Apparently I had some rash on the inside side of my eyelid, the skin was all bumpy and I guess because of it my eyelids can't properly moisturize the eyes. I got some allergy eyedrops so let's see will they work. I just wonder how in the hell I got rash in there, otherwise my eyes are normal visually.

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@boogie123)

Posted : 10/19/2015 5:09 am

Hello! I was on low dose accutane for 7 months. I stopped in mid-september 2015. It's been a little over a month and I am experiencing hair loss along with feet pain (heel and arches) when walking and just general tiredness. In the last two weeks, I have also developed white spots on my fingernails. Could this all be due to stopping accutane, or is it a sign of some vitamin/mineral deficiency?

One thing, I was experiencing hair loss even before starting accutane, but it had pretty much stopped for the last 3 months.

Quote
MemberMember
37
(@umas)

Posted : 10/19/2015 5:27 am

Hi guys just wanted to let everyone who hasn't found an answer to reversing accutane damage, I want to share my experience

i suffered 3 years of dry blood shot red eyes,
IBS or IBD I don't know....
chronic fatigue
sinuses
and recently jaundice of the skin and eyes.

i have been following this page for a while now. I see a lot of you suffering as well, that is sad and upsets me.

I have never gave up searching for a cure.
Tried vitamins, Chinese herbalist and their bitters.
I eat healthy these days. More greens, mostly fish, little chicken and no red meats. My liver can't process red meats or junk food.

I gave up on doctors eversince accutane, my mentality is, they will give me another pill to fix one problem but cause a majority of others.

I accidentally stumbled on the gallbladder and liver flush. Didn't expect to get anything out the first go because other accutane users reported they didn't get anything out until 3rd or 4th shot.

i got heaps of stones out. They were this nice emerald green. Lots of them, mostly pea sized. I didn't count sorry I was a little grossed, it is poo after all.

i should have done a colon cleanse before I did the flush because I was a little constipated. Shouldn't do the flush when you're constipated. I did do a colon cleanse after the flush tho and got some more stones out that way.

I feel more energised. Clear head not this brain fog I get everyday. Let's just say this is the closest to normal I have felt in 3 years.

Doing another flush in 3 weeks in an attempt to get more stones out but also considering a colonic this Friday to clean my bowels.

Here is the procedure I followed for the flush.
Its so easy and cheap.
i believe it was iryry who posted it on another post....

Let me quess... they were not only green, but floating in the water, with no sharp edges? Next time try to get one or two and find out if they are hard and not melting - I quess they will not be hard and easy to melt. You can do this hundrends of times and you still will have those "gallbladder stones", much more than gallbradder can hold, and sometimes much bigger than bile duct can hold. Of course they will also don't have any characteristics of true gallbladder stones. Do a ultrasonography(it's safe and cheap test) before liver flush(btw only extremely small percentage of people have stones in liver, gallbladder stones are much more common), and after that. Or after this liver send those "gallbladder stones" to test them if they are real stones.
But afterall it's very good that those liver flushes are not real, because otherwise there would be many victims of it(stone that stuck in bile duct is not fun)

Quote
MemberMember
28
(@trantran83333)

Posted : 10/19/2015 7:14 am

Hi guys just wanted to let everyone who hasn't found an answer to reversing accutane damage, I want to share my experience

i suffered 3 years of dry blood shot red eyes,
IBS or IBD I don't know....
chronic fatigue
sinuses
and recently jaundice of the skin and eyes.

i have been following this page for a while now. I see a lot of you suffering as well, that is sad and upsets me.

I have never gave up searching for a cure.
Tried vitamins, Chinese herbalist and their bitters.
I eat healthy these days. More greens, mostly fish, little chicken and no red meats. My liver can't process red meats or junk food.

I gave up on doctors eversince accutane, my mentality is, they will give me another pill to fix one problem but cause a majority of others.

I accidentally stumbled on the gallbladder and liver flush. Didn't expect to get anything out the first go because other accutane users reported they didn't get anything out until 3rd or 4th shot.

i got heaps of stones out. They were this nice emerald green. Lots of them, mostly pea sized. I didn't count sorry I was a little grossed, it is poo after all.

i should have done a colon cleanse before I did the flush because I was a little constipated. Shouldn't do the flush when you're constipated. I did do a colon cleanse after the flush tho and got some more stones out that way.

I feel more energised. Clear head not this brain fog I get everyday. Let's just say this is the closest to normal I have felt in 3 years.

Doing another flush in 3 weeks in an attempt to get more stones out but also considering a colonic this Friday to clean my bowels.

Here is the procedure I followed for the flush.
Its so easy and cheap.
i believe it was iryry who posted it on another post....

Let me quess... they were not only green, but floating in the water, with no sharp edges? Next time try to get one or two and find out if they are hard and not melting - I quess they will not be hard and easy to melt. You can do this hundrends of times and you still will have those "gallbladder stones", much more than gallbradder can hold, and sometimes much bigger than bile duct can hold. Of course they will also don't have any characteristics of true gallbladder stones. Do a ultrasonography(it's safe and cheap test) before liver flush(btw only extremely small percentage of people have stones in liver, gallbladder stones are much more common), and after that. Or after this liver send those "gallbladder stones" to test them if they are real stones.
But afterall it's very good that those liver flushes are not real, because otherwise there would be many victims of it(stone that stuck in bile duct is not fun)

Hi guys just wanted to let everyone who hasn't found an answer to reversing accutane damage, I want to share my experience

i suffered 3 years of dry blood shot red eyes,
IBS or IBD I don't know....
chronic fatigue
sinuses
and recently jaundice of the skin and eyes.

i have been following this page for a while now. I see a lot of you suffering as well, that is sad and upsets me.

I have never gave up searching for a cure.
Tried vitamins, Chinese herbalist and their bitters.
I eat healthy these days. More greens, mostly fish, little chicken and no red meats. My liver can't process red meats or junk food.

I gave up on doctors eversince accutane, my mentality is, they will give me another pill to fix one problem but cause a majority of others.

I accidentally stumbled on the gallbladder and liver flush. Didn't expect to get anything out the first go because other accutane users reported they didn't get anything out until 3rd or 4th shot.

i got heaps of stones out. They were this nice emerald green. Lots of them, mostly pea sized. I didn't count sorry I was a little grossed, it is poo after all.

i should have done a colon cleanse before I did the flush because I was a little constipated. Shouldn't do the flush when you're constipated. I did do a colon cleanse after the flush tho and got some more stones out that way.

I feel more energised. Clear head not this brain fog I get everyday. Let's just say this is the closest to normal I have felt in 3 years.

Doing another flush in 3 weeks in an attempt to get more stones out but also considering a colonic this Friday to clean my bowels.

Here is the procedure I followed for the flush.
Its so easy and cheap.
i believe it was iryry who posted it on another post....

Let me quess... they were not only green, but floating in the water, with no sharp edges? Next time try to get one or two and find out if they are hard and not melting - I quess they will not be hard and easy to melt. You can do this hundrends of times and you still will have those "gallbladder stones", much more than gallbradder can hold, and sometimes much bigger than bile duct can hold. Of course they will also don't have any characteristics of true gallbladder stones. Do a ultrasonography(it's safe and cheap test) before liver flush(btw only extremely small percentage of people have stones in liver, gallbladder stones are much more common), and after that. Or after this liver send those "gallbladder stones" to test them if they are real stones.
But afterall it's very good that those liver flushes are not real, because otherwise there would be many victims of it(stone that stuck in bile duct is not fun)

Hi guys just wanted to let everyone who hasn't found an answer to reversing accutane damage, I want to share my experience

i suffered 3 years of dry blood shot red eyes,
IBS or IBD I don't know....
chronic fatigue
sinuses
and recently jaundice of the skin and eyes.

i have been following this page for a while now. I see a lot of you suffering as well, that is sad and upsets me.

I have never gave up searching for a cure.
Tried vitamins, Chinese herbalist and their bitters.
I eat healthy these days. More greens, mostly fish, little chicken and no red meats. My liver can't process red meats or junk food.

I gave up on doctors eversince accutane, my mentality is, they will give me another pill to fix one problem but cause a majority of others.

I accidentally stumbled on the gallbladder and liver flush. Didn't expect to get anything out the first go because other accutane users reported they didn't get anything out until 3rd or 4th shot.

i got heaps of stones out. They were this nice emerald green. Lots of them, mostly pea sized. I didn't count sorry I was a little grossed, it is poo after all.

i should have done a colon cleanse before I did the flush because I was a little constipated. Shouldn't do the flush when you're constipated. I did do a colon cleanse after the flush tho and got some more stones out that way.

I feel more energised. Clear head not this brain fog I get everyday. Let's just say this is the closest to normal I have felt in 3 years.

Doing another flush in 3 weeks in an attempt to get more stones out but also considering a colonic this Friday to clean my bowels.

Here is the procedure I followed for the flush.
Its so easy and cheap.
i believe it was iryry who posted it on another post....

Let me quess... they were not only green, but floating in the water, with no sharp edges? Next time try to get one or two and find out if they are hard and not melting - I quess they will not be hard and easy to melt. You can do this hundrends of times and you still will have those "gallbladder stones", much more than gallbradder can hold, and sometimes much bigger than bile duct can hold. Of course they will also don't have any characteristics of true gallbladder stones. Do a ultrasonography(it's safe and cheap test) before liver flush(btw only extremely small percentage of people have stones in liver, gallbladder stones are much more common), and after that. Or after this liver send those "gallbladder stones" to test them if they are real stones.
But afterall it's very good that those liver flushes are not real, because otherwise there would be many victims of it(stone that stuck in bile duct is not funL

Who cares what the stones are, or what percentage of them are made up of whatever - if they work, and they obviously do for a very great many people, that is what is most important to me.

Quote
MemberMember
13
(@alantookaccutanewow)

Posted : 10/19/2015 8:05 am

No

Quote
MemberMember
37
(@umas)

Posted : 10/19/2015 12:01 pm

Hi guys just wanted to let everyone who hasn't found an answer to reversing accutane damage, I want to share my experience

i suffered 3 years of dry blood shot red eyes,
IBS or IBD I don't know....
chronic fatigue
sinuses
and recently jaundice of the skin and eyes.

i have been following this page for a while now. I see a lot of you suffering as well, that is sad and upsets me.

I have never gave up searching for a cure.
Tried vitamins, Chinese herbalist and their bitters.
I eat healthy these days. More greens, mostly fish, little chicken and no red meats. My liver can't process red meats or junk food.

I gave up on doctors eversince accutane, my mentality is, they will give me another pill to fix one problem but cause a majority of others.

I accidentally stumbled on the gallbladder and liver flush. Didn't expect to get anything out the first go because other accutane users reported they didn't get anything out until 3rd or 4th shot.

i got heaps of stones out. They were this nice emerald green. Lots of them, mostly pea sized. I didn't count sorry I was a little grossed, it is poo after all.

i should have done a colon cleanse before I did the flush because I was a little constipated. Shouldn't do the flush when you're constipated. I did do a colon cleanse after the flush tho and got some more stones out that way.

I feel more energised. Clear head not this brain fog I get everyday. Let's just say this is the closest to normal I have felt in 3 years.

Doing another flush in 3 weeks in an attempt to get more stones out but also considering a colonic this Friday to clean my bowels.

Here is the procedure I followed for the flush.
Its so easy and cheap.
i believe it was iryry who posted it on another post....

Let me quess... they were not only green, but floating in the water, with no sharp edges? Next time try to get one or two and find out if they are hard and not melting - I quess they will not be hard and easy to melt. You can do this hundrends of times and you still will have those "gallbladder stones", much more than gallbradder can hold, and sometimes much bigger than bile duct can hold. Of course they will also don't have any characteristics of true gallbladder stones. Do a ultrasonography(it's safe and cheap test) before liver flush(btw only extremely small percentage of people have stones in liver, gallbladder stones are much more common), and after that. Or after this liver send those "gallbladder stones" to test them if they are real stones.
But afterall it's very good that those liver flushes are not real, because otherwise there would be many victims of it(stone that stuck in bile duct is not fun)

 

Hi guys just wanted to let everyone who hasn't found an answer to reversing accutane damage, I want to share my experience

i suffered 3 years of dry blood shot red eyes,
IBS or IBD I don't know....
chronic fatigue
sinuses
and recently jaundice of the skin and eyes.

i have been following this page for a while now. I see a lot of you suffering as well, that is sad and upsets me.

I have never gave up searching for a cure.
Tried vitamins, Chinese herbalist and their bitters.
I eat healthy these days. More greens, mostly fish, little chicken and no red meats. My liver can't process red meats or junk food.

I gave up on doctors eversince accutane, my mentality is, they will give me another pill to fix one problem but cause a majority of others.

I accidentally stumbled on the gallbladder and liver flush. Didn't expect to get anything out the first go because other accutane users reported they didn't get anything out until 3rd or 4th shot.

i got heaps of stones out. They were this nice emerald green. Lots of them, mostly pea sized. I didn't count sorry I was a little grossed, it is poo after all.

i should have done a colon cleanse before I did the flush because I was a little constipated. Shouldn't do the flush when you're constipated. I did do a colon cleanse after the flush tho and got some more stones out that way.

I feel more energised. Clear head not this brain fog I get everyday. Let's just say this is the closest to normal I have felt in 3 years.

Doing another flush in 3 weeks in an attempt to get more stones out but also considering a colonic this Friday to clean my bowels.

Here is the procedure I followed for the flush.
Its so easy and cheap.
i believe it was iryry who posted it on another post....

Let me quess... they were not only green, but floating in the water, with no sharp edges? Next time try to get one or two and find out if they are hard and not melting - I quess they will not be hard and easy to melt. You can do this hundrends of times and you still will have those "gallbladder stones", much more than gallbradder can hold, and sometimes much bigger than bile duct can hold. Of course they will also don't have any characteristics of true gallbladder stones. Do a ultrasonography(it's safe and cheap test) before liver flush(btw only extremely small percentage of people have stones in liver, gallbladder stones are much more common), and after that. Or after this liver send those "gallbladder stones" to test them if they are real stones.
But afterall it's very good that those liver flushes are not real, because otherwise there would be many victims of it(stone that stuck in bile duct is not fun)

 

Hi guys just wanted to let everyone who hasn't found an answer to reversing accutane damage, I want to share my experience

i suffered 3 years of dry blood shot red eyes,
IBS or IBD I don't know....
chronic fatigue
sinuses
and recently jaundice of the skin and eyes.

i have been following this page for a while now. I see a lot of you suffering as well, that is sad and upsets me.

I have never gave up searching for a cure.
Tried vitamins, Chinese herbalist and their bitters.
I eat healthy these days. More greens, mostly fish, little chicken and no red meats. My liver can't process red meats or junk food.

I gave up on doctors eversince accutane, my mentality is, they will give me another pill to fix one problem but cause a majority of others.

I accidentally stumbled on the gallbladder and liver flush. Didn't expect to get anything out the first go because other accutane users reported they didn't get anything out until 3rd or 4th shot.

i got heaps of stones out. They were this nice emerald green. Lots of them, mostly pea sized. I didn't count sorry I was a little grossed, it is poo after all.

i should have done a colon cleanse before I did the flush because I was a little constipated. Shouldn't do the flush when you're constipated. I did do a colon cleanse after the flush tho and got some more stones out that way.

I feel more energised. Clear head not this brain fog I get everyday. Let's just say this is the closest to normal I have felt in 3 years.

Doing another flush in 3 weeks in an attempt to get more stones out but also considering a colonic this Friday to clean my bowels.

Here is the procedure I followed for the flush.
Its so easy and cheap.
i believe it was iryry who posted it on another post....

Let me quess... they were not only green, but floating in the water, with no sharp edges? Next time try to get one or two and find out if they are hard and not melting - I quess they will not be hard and easy to melt. You can do this hundrends of times and you still will have those "gallbladder stones", much more than gallbradder can hold, and sometimes much bigger than bile duct can hold. Of course they will also don't have any characteristics of true gallbladder stones. Do a ultrasonography(it's safe and cheap test) before liver flush(btw only extremely small percentage of people have stones in liver, gallbladder stones are much more common), and after that. Or after this liver send those "gallbladder stones" to test them if they are real stones.
But afterall it's very good that those liver flushes are not real, because otherwise there would be many victims of it(stone that stuck in bile duct is not funL

Who cares what the stones are, or what percentage of them are made up of whatever - if they work, and they obviously do for a very great many people, that is what is most important to me.

 

The same you could say about accutane. If it works(dealing with acne), then that's the only thing important. Wrong, the important thing is what really those gallbladder/liver flushes are. Unless of course you would try everything that somebody told you was good, but then you accutane didn't teach you a lesson. For me at least antibiotics teach a lesson - don't jump into anything before you understand how it's working. And those gallbladder/liver flushes are just plain bogus, there are to many facts that those "stones" are not real, and what's more, those flushes can even harm you, 'cause preperation are pretty harsh. Besides, if those flushes were real, they would be much,much more dangerous than accutane. But it's not really flushing any stones from gallbladder, so it's not that dangerous. I indeed read many posts of people claim that it helped them(of course sometimes reading those posts is funny because people claim to pass over 1000 gallstones and gallbladder cannot hold that many, and of course some of those stones are so big that their bile duct had to be 4-5x wider than normal human), but I will never try something so harsh for my body before I will know how exactly is working, and why those people claim that they feel better(placebo? Or maybe it's helping in some way?). I just don't understand some people that bash western medicine but are willing to jump into anything unorthodox, like it's black and white world. No, it's not, sometimes orthodox medicine is better, sometimes natural or unorthodox. But there is no magic, and key is to understand how different things have affect on body.

Quote