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Yea, but its not the docs' fault. Mine even had the whole snake oil pitch. He left the room and had a pretty young assistant tell me about how all it does is dry your lips out, and your skin peels, maybe some lower back, etc. etc. And I believed them. But, like you said, a lot of these old docs are ignorant. Not saying they aren't smart and knowledgeable dermatologists, but scientists? No.
And the industry is so perverse nowadays. This preventative craze. I'm all for preventative medicine which kicked off in the 50's with vaccines and what not, but they're really becoming more and more...I can't find the words but you know what I mean. They don't know any better. Or maybe they do. Either way the ones responsible are the ones who created it and profited. They should be held accountable and cover medical expenses. That is something worth fighting for.
It is all docs fault. If he said possible permanent side effects or rumors about that, and anything about rare ED side effects I would not take it. He convinced me to use it. It was me who said that people say that this drug is not safe (I knew only some liver issues) and he said what I heard from people were bullshit. They were already sucidal or ill, and they find it easy to blame accutane. He really said accutane is safe. During my appointments the assistances were asking me if I came for vitaminA treatment. I mean after my first month I went there for my blood test, and I asked for my appointment and they asked me if I am having vitaminA treatment, they dont even call it accutane. After my side effects, now I learned lots of Info about this drug and if a doc says that this drug is safe, it is his fault.
Anyone tried Tianeptine sodium before? (brands include Stablon)
It's available without prescription (you can get it on ebay etc) and safe even in fairly high doses. It upregulates dopamine D2 and D3 receptors and is effective at bringing back libido and helping with depression - it's also neuroprotective.
I've read of some people with SSRI induced sexual sides recovering with its use. Potentially quite interesting and may have a positive effect for people suffering from tane sides with loss of libido/ED and depression.
Further information here;
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20070710/msgs/769414.html
Anyone tried it?
I'm currently trying various things and having some success with some, which has motivated me to try further things, specifically targetting things which are out according to my blood tests. Tianeptine is one I'm looking at after trying various other things to try and raise my LH and FSH and lower my cortisol.
I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before, but with so many people suffering from long lasting Accutane side effects, I think there should be a subreddit for Accutane side effect support group.
@tanedout isn't Tianeptine a nootropic? You could try asking in longecity or reddit/r/nootropics for better advice. I've heard that Mr Happy's Stack seems to be good for upregulating/normalizing Dopamine receptors and healing the brain in general. There's talks about possible genotoxicity from Uridine depleting Folate and causing DNA encoding error. But Mr Happy says that can be prevented by supplementing with 400mcg Methylfolate. Having said that, the invitro cells in the study were purposely designed to be folate free while humans rarely become deficient in folate. Another way to get Uridine would be to take CDP choline which gets converted to Uridine in the brain. But it might take longer to see the effect compared to Uridine and some people get choline depression. I might give it a go to fix the I got from roaccutane which hasn't gone away even after 5 months.
@tanedout isn't Tianeptine a nootropic? You could try asking in longecity or reddit/r/nootropics for better advice. I've heard that Mr Happy's Stack seems to be good for upregulating/normalizing Dopamine receptors and healing the brain in general. There's talks about possible genotoxicity from Uridine depleting Folate and causing DNA encoding error. But Mr Happy says that can be prevented by supplementing with 400mcg Folic acid and even that might not be necessary since the invitro cells were purposely designed to be folic deficient for the study while humans rarely become deficient in folate. I might give it a go to fix the cognitive impairment I got from roaccutane.
Yeah I read about tianeptine on longecity actually - there's some decent info on there. I haven't seen the thread on Mr Happy's stack, but have found this and will give it a read sometime. Tianeptine definitely sounds like an interesting prospect, and it's pretty safe too, so long as you're not mixing with opiates.
I'm looking to try and clear my brainfog as a priority and after finding some improvements with pine pollen I'm looking to try this combined with Pregnenolone.
If I can get this sorted I'll focus on the sexual sides which are clearly dopamine related.
I haven't posted on here in quite awhile but I might as well discuss the theory I am working on at the moment.
Here's a quick run down of case and symptoms:
Accutane - 20mg twice a day for 4 months.
Symptoms during:
Dry skin
Cracked lips
Brain Fog
Depression
After:
All of the above +
Bleeding gums
Acne continued
Dry flakey skin on face / scalp (exacerbated in winter)
Social anxiety
Eye floaters
Lack of energy
Apathetic
Loss of personality
Stammer / slurred speech
Poor libido
What I have tried so far:
Candida detox
colon cleanse
liver flushes (7)
low sugar diet
leafy green + meat diet (green smoothies etc)
PMO reboot (anxiety related)
4x adrenal saliva test
endocrinologist test
b12 and testosterone testing
b12 and T injections
heaps of supplements
parasite cleanse
pregnenolone creams
weekly clay masks
Its safe to say I have tried plenty in the 3 years I have been dealing with these symptoms
I always persisted and stuck as close to the requirements of each attempt I've made at alleviating my symptoms.
Anyway, I feel like I may have found the answer now. Its been discussed on these boards in small amounts and google searches seem to show only a few documented reports of people actually discussing this idea, it seems it can be found in other drug related ailments which are similar to those of accutane.
So the other weekend I was out for a night out with some mates, I never really do drugs due to how crappy I feel most of the time and being scared of what they may actually do to me that accutane hasn't already done or if anything make my problems worse. But then I thought yolo fuck it whatever.
So I had 2x caps of some MDMA that a friend of mine bought off the internet, Apparently the source is credible and the quality insured by hundreds of reviews on the deep web. Needless to say I had fun, blah blah blah, The night ended early so I got home and just lay in bed thinking. When all of a sudden i realized, boom! no eye floaters. not even one. I've had them for 2 years constantly and can even see them when I sleep. I was utterly shocked. I turned on my light in my room which normally makes them become so large and obvious I get a little angry. Nothing at all. I literally went from being in pitch black to as bright as I could in my rooms (2 sources of light plus white screen on TV) just to test this properly. seriously nothing at all.
So then I did a little research on MD and broke it down into the chemical sequence it initiates in order for you to have so much fun. It basically causes large amounts of serotonin to be released from tissue inside the brain. It also block the receptors which regulate serotonin in order to control mood, so basically you just have tons of serotonin in your head and you feel good because of that. Obviously this is dumbed down and I'm sure people can elaborate on this but thats not the point.
In 2013 I had a hair mineral analysis done and noted on the results that my copper in soft tissue was of the flipping charts. This is because Accutane increases estrogen which in turn allows copper to build up. It piles up in the liver as that is already getting bombarded witch Vitamin A and cannot function. So it over flows and stores itself in soft tissue, like the brain and joints in order to bail from killing the liver. (a little theory of mine here is that those who have suffered accutane effects in the extremities often have a weak liver to begin with either genetically or though poor diet, I myself ate thousand of sweets/lollies as a kid and also binge drank alcohol during my accutane course as I was young and naive, and also ill-informed by a rouge doctor)
Further research of copper shows that when in the brain soft tissue it has a dramatic effect on serotonin and how it is produced. It basically make it redundant by oxidizing it. So although you may be able to make it, you never really get to see the benefits of it, eg. sharp memory, mood, cognitive functions, focus etc etc.
So in conclusion. The accumulation of copper in the brains soft tissue, as a result of accutanes effect on estrogen and the liver, results in the stunting of serotonin production.
CURE:
From what I gather Nutritional balancing seems to be the most discussed way of getting copper out of soft tissue. This is anecdotal and just seems to be what I read about the most on the internet.
It seems this can take months and even years depending on the severity of your case. A correct diet limiting certain foods and focusing on foods that maintain the zinc / copper balance seem to be critical.
In my own research I have heard good things about 5-HTP and the benefits it can have on serotonin production, It seems it may just get eaten up with copper but its probably worth a try just to experiment.
I believe there is equally as much money in alternative medicine as their is practical. And while I don't think any practitioner really consciously wants to deter anyone from their health, I am sure they are subconsciously biased to what they recommend to clients as far as money and repeat business goes.
This idea is open to discussion and I greatly welcome it. Obviously this is the path I am now taking and seeing as I am determined as fuck I will stick with this idea if only to rule it out.
KOI
I really want to kill my dr who gave me this shit.
He said it is all safe, nothing would happen, it is just a type of vitamin A.
Fuck you, you ignorant moron bastard.
Hans Peterson, a former law-school student who butchered-up his dermatologist over Accutane side effects and fled his country:
More than 60 posts from Hans follow over the next five years. They show a man becoming increasingly obsessed with the drug Accutane and the effects he believed it was having on his body and his mind. He attributes a series of ailments, including depression, to the medication but the two that he claims most haunt him are a constant ringing in his ears and a loss of sexual sensation.
- He complained of long term tinnitis, severe depression , and erectile dysfunction after taking Accutane for a very short duration.
- He was labled a psychotic suffering from a self-induced nocebo effect.
- Every flaw in his personality and from his past was amplified by the media.
- The idea that Accutane side effects may have played any part in the murder was brushed under the carpet.
He is sitting in prison right now suffering from side effects rather than as a free man. Maybe he was trying to prove a point. Maybe it was simple revenge for his doctor bullshitting him about how safe Accutane is. Either way, it didn't turn out well for anyone.
There's gotta be more to the sexual side effects, but lack of blood platelets seems to lead to veinous leakage:
Accumulation of platelets as a key mechanism of human erection.
Interesting Koi. I also have my theories about serotonin. The day after binge drinking, I find that I can feel the trees and sunlight as I once used to pre tane, my social anxiety disappears, and also my libido goes back to normal. Unfortunately, after the "hangover" phase, usually around the 6 - 12 hour mark after last consumption of ethanol, my nerves start to act up, and believe it or not in two separate instances I went through a sort of "serotonin syndrome/alcohol withdrawl symptoms" that had me in the hospital. But yea, that was after very copious amount of alcohol and its only happened twice in 5 years. And that's the best I can describe it. Serotonin syndrome (google it) combined with alcohol withdrawl symptoms. Not sure if it was the ethanol converting into acetaldehyde or what, but it was definitely a neruological response which manifested into physical symptoms, heart rate spiking, shivering, feelings of impending doom, delirium, paresthesia in lower limbs.
So, while I think we are on to something, you should probably chill on the mdma and even the 5HTP. And i should chill on the ethanol, at least until I talk to a neurologist and get his insight, because normal MD's aren't trained for this type of stuff. But I think we should start doing reports on all of our symptoms and update logs anytime something of significance occurs.
Excellent post from koikoi123. When I had my hair analysis done a couple of years ago, it came back saying I had too much cooper in the body.
My Kinesiologist who helped me get this test done suggested i take:
Iron
Manganese
Zinc
The other one he suggested is Moly Zinc - it actually says on the back, "May help to reduce copper overload in the body".
I think i might get back on some of these supplements to give them a second go. What could be holding me back is that I'm
still eating the wrong foods, I might be inadvertantly increasing my copper intake through bad diet choices.......if there's any advice on foods to avoid
please share?
I don't have ED issues but I was thinking that if we have an overload of Estrogen in the body than this might cause a Testosterone imbalance surely?
The irritability i get at times must indicate a Serotonin imbalance but who would fuckin know - you can't test for it that I know of? you just have your
good days and your bad.
Gee I made an awesome decision at 22 years of age to go on this shit.......talk about trusting in the medical establishment......how naive was I???
Should I blame my dermatologist? she probably had no fuckin idea either to be fair...........
cheers for the replies.
heres a few answers to those above questions.
I'll let someone else decide ratios and supps for me. Im going to go with Alex Tuggle as my practitioner. I found him through another reply to the original guy who started this thread, Stefan. Someone had mentioned how they took finasteride which is super similar to Accutane in how it works, and basically said yeah copper toxic NB is the way forth. I actually started NB way back in 2013 with Alex and got a good gist of the procedure and what was happening inside me more or less but since I was travelling abroad hoping from country to country at the time I never stuck with the program, also i was 20 then so not as dedicated as I am now.
Anyway with great research comes little information. I have done a shit tonne of research and have a decent amount of info in my noggin so perhaps adding supps here and there after total confirmation they may acheive something probably wont hurt. cheers for the info on that moly zinc man this is exactly what I mean.
And yeah Macleod, I know what you mean with the drinking, i too have experianced that, never could put it into words though let alone understand the science behind it, I think you're onto something here. Its like for a few hours our true personality shines through and youre like dam its still there wtf! how am I a retard the majority of the time? Anyway, alcohol in general is probably not good at all while in this weak state, I try to stay away from it.
As for the MD, yeah I defiantly dont go craxy like you see these younger kids doing, but still every time I do learn a lot from it. Which is always something to be grateful for. As for the 5 HTP, its like $20 so I might try a low dosage for a few weeks to experiment, and see what happens, all the info Ive read seems real good and it would be a bummer to never at least see what happens. But all is moderation as they say.
As for foods, Im trying to avoid all copper rich shit as a general rule. Chocolate, mushrooms, kale, tap water, and even beer and ciggies are know to have decent amounts in them. So piss that off and yeah look for things like pumpkin seeds (found in some health food stores) and just whatever foods seems to be less junky than normal, Havent started that side of things full swing yet but getting there.
AS for being pissed off, nahhhhh. Its actually kind of a blessing really. I mean hell no would I take accutane if I had the option but someone told me once that you are defined by the things you have failed and learnt from. I know have a real good understanding of the dangers of medicine, how to eat good, have a balanced body, a good grasp of exercise and shit loads more. My determination and perseverance has been drinking protein shakes and shoving roids up its proverbial butt.
Anyway, I like to ramble on, thats my style. I may not be correct obviously, and I don't want to sound like Im preaching but yeah If my room is a prison cell then google is my bitch on the top bunk.
Why do these prescription drugs screw you up so much if they're marketed as being so safe?
Simply because they are being marketed. Its a business after all. And it's not everyone who is adversely affected, just a small percentage, but a small percentage of a mass marketed drug can add up to a lot of people. Genetic factors mainly. Bad luck...
It's just shameful when companies hide negative data about their products to pass legalization hurdles and meet deadlines. I can't fully fault the FDA when this is the case, but it is what it is. Wish it was just about science and medicine, but there's capitalism mixed in to everything nowadays.
I was curious about my IQ score after experiencing the side effect from roaccutane. But I could never get myself to take the IQ test because I lost motivation to do anything, even DNB after going on roaccutane. It's been 6 months so I believe I've given enough time for my brain to heal. I had a good sleep last night and I felt like my brain was at its sharpest today so I took the IQ test again after a strong cup of coffee kicked in. And to my surprise, my IQ score has gotten lower. I used to score at least 108 even on bad days and 110 on good days. But today, I only scored 105 which is the lowest I've ever scored. Before roaccutane, I feel like my thinking speed was faster. But now, it took me a much longer time to solve each questions on IQtest.dk. I'm glad I didn't take roaccutane for more than 5 days, otherwise my IQ score could have gotten even lower.
In reply to Koi's post about copper toxicity due to dmgd liver and high estrogen lvls:
Just wanted to say my heavy metals hair analysis from doctor's data showed my copper levels to be fine. reference range: 11-30. mine was 33. not bad at all. to get into the "red" zone (elevated) it would have to be like 60 or 80. And my zinc is 233. ref range: 130-200.
Are your eye floaters still gone from that night you took the drug?
nah they are back and in full force, I got the 5htp and have taken it twice now, 100mg in each capsule. So waiting to see if that does anything. I have got another hair analysis to send off so that will be interesting to see what my copper levels are like considering they were quite elevated last time in 2013. Remember that there are ratios that prove hidden copper, I would look into this 'yetanother..'
nah they are back and in full force, I got the 5htp and have taken it twice now, 100mg in each capsule. So waiting to see if that does anything. I have got another hair analysis to send off so that will be interesting to see what my copper levels are like considering they were quite elevated last time in 2013. Remember that there are ratios that prove hidden copper, I would look into this 'yetanother..'
My Zn/Cu ratio is 6.97. ref range: 4-20.
I have loads of eye floaters.
*by the way, my floaters in my right eye have almost healed completely in the past 3 years. They were unbearable. Still have a bunch in my left eye though. But perhaps those will go away with time as well
Did your eye floaters reappear in the exact same spots?
~
My hormone test for hpa axis dysregulation: http://gyazo.com/e559d741eaea1fa0b91ed9de750111ef
Other hormone results: http://gyazo.com/6ae4ee2622bf56119a6959de22732689
If anyone can provide any useful feedback about some possible abnormalities or perhaps things to try, do please tell.
In my opinion these don't look too whacky to be causing all of my issues. What do you guys think
Hi,
I'll try to keep this succinct. Immediately following taking accutane in 1996, I have struggled with, most notably, severe chronic depression and IBS type symptoms. The few pages that I have perused of this thread so far, have been relatable, enlightening, comforting, and heart-breaking. It also seems to be the best place to start asking for help from people who actually can relate to me. I've tried several of the SSRI medications, and had some success on fluoxetine for several years. Unfortunately, it is not effective for me anymore. I'm really struggling, and I am working with a psychiatrist, and a therapist. This is really just symptom management though, and I'm not finding much success, but I thought tonight, maybe someone has figured out something that can help me, and I found this thread. So, if anyone has any advice at all, or can point me somewhere that might, it would really help me right now. Thank you.
Hi,
I'll try to keep this succinct. Immediately following taking accutane in 1996, I have struggled with, most notably, severe chronic depression and IBS type symptoms. The few pages that I have perused of this thread so far, have been relatable, enlightening, comforting, and heart-breaking. It also seems to be the best place to start asking for help from people who actually can relate to me. I've tried several of the SSRI medications, and had some success on fluoxetine for several years. Unfortunately, it is not effective for me anymore. I'm really struggling, and I am working with a psychiatrist, and a therapist. This is really just symptom management though, and I'm not finding much success, but I thought tonight, maybe someone has figured out something that can help me, and I found this thread. So, if anyone has any advice at all, or can point me somewhere that might, it would really help me right now. Thank you.
NOW brand 25bil 10 strain probiotics fixed my stomach problems.
accutane messes with our gut.
nah they are back and in full force, I got the 5htp and have taken it twice now, 100mg in each capsule. So waiting to see if that does anything. I have got another hair analysis to send off so that will be interesting to see what my copper levels are like considering they were quite elevated last time in 2013. Remember that there are ratios that prove hidden copper, I would look into this 'yetanother..'
My Zn/Cu ratio is 6.97. ref range: 4-20.
I have loads of eye floaters.
*by the way, my floaters in my right eye have almost healed completely in the past 3 years. They were unbearable. Still have a bunch in my left eye though. But perhaps those will go away with time as well
Did your eye floaters reappear in the exact same spots?
~
My hormone test for hpa axis dysregulation: http://gyazo.com/e559d741eaea1fa0b91ed9de750111ef
Other hormone results: http://gyazo.com/6ae4ee2622bf56119a6959de22732689
If anyone can provide any useful feedback about some possible abnormalities or perhaps things to try, do please tell.
In my opinion these don't look too whacky to be causing all of my issues. What do you guys think
floaters are a breakdown of collagen. we have a collagen problem, from thin skin to floaters. zinc manganese and vitamin C are for collagen..
NOW brand 25bil 10 strain probiotics fixed my stomach problems.
accutane messes with our gut.
I have tried several different probiotics, the best only seemed to help a little...maybe...
I took something called Buspar (Busiprone) 2 months ago that had an almost immediate, unbelieveable impact on my stomach, but the other side effects were awful so I discontinued (terrible headaches). I was thinking about mentioning it, and looked into it a bit more, and it seems to work on 5-HT receptors in the stomach, and wondered if these would be connected to the 5-HTP supplements I've seen people commenting about through out this thread?
edit: and Thank you so so much!
NOW brand 25bil 10 strain probiotics fixed my stomach problems.
accutane messes with our gut.
floaters are a breakdown of collagen. we have a collagen problem, from thin skin to floaters. zinc manganese and vitamin C are for collagen..
Agreed. My skin cannot repair correctly even from the smallest scrapes. I think it also relates to Vit A metabolism as well. I had a major vit A deficiency immediately post accutane. Had extreme night blindness and a lot of other symptoms indicating deficiency. Also, I have been taking over a gram of supplemental Vit C each day along with a diet high in Vit C containing veggies but I still show up as being deficient on tests. Not sure where all that C is going.
I have tried several different probiotics, the best only seemed to help a little...maybe...
I took something called Buspar (Busiprone) 2 months ago that had an almost immediate, unbelieveable impact on my stomach, but the other side effects were awful so I discontinued (terrible headaches). I was thinking about mentioning it, and looked into it a bit more, and it seems to work on 5-HT receptors in the stomach, and wondered if these would be connected to the 5-HTP supplements I've seen people commenting about through out this thread?
edit: and Thank you so so much!
Try probiotic-5 by pure encapsulations. It's the best I've ever used. I've used over 10 different brands along with many different probiotic foods: I've made milk kefir, water kefir, sauerkraut etc.. I take one pill in the morning on an empty stomach with a large glass of water. You can take prebiotic fiber with the pill to increase effectiveness (something like potato starch, or organic acacia senegal). The 2nd best probiotic I've tried has been Prescript-Assist. Good luck.
What differences have you noticed with the probiotic?
No ill effects like constipation or diarrhea. Perfect, large bowel movements. Less undigested particles in the stool. Perhaps more frequent bms. Less bloating in colon. And of course the unseen systemic benefits of repopulating the colon with beneficial organisms (better nutrient assimilation and production, less depression, less brain fog, more energy, better sleep etc..)
But I've tried a lot of probiotics that have caused distress. One probiotic might work for me but will not work for you and vice versa. Personally the pure encapsulations and prescript assist work great for me.
I haven't posted on here in quite awhile but I might as well discuss the theory I am working on at the moment.
Here's a quick run down of case and symptoms:
Accutane - 20mg twice a day for 4 months.
Symptoms during:
Dry skin
Cracked lips
Brain Fog
Depression
After:
All of the above +
Bleeding gums
Acne continued
Dry flakey skin on face / scalp (exacerbated in winter)
Social anxiety
Eye floaters
Lack of energy
Apathetic
Loss of personality
Stammer / slurred speech
Poor libido
What I have tried so far:
Candida detox
colon cleanse
liver flushes (7)
low sugar diet
leafy green + meat diet (green smoothies etc)
PMO reboot (anxiety related)
4x adrenal saliva test
endocrinologist test
b12 and testosterone testing
b12 and T injections
heaps of supplements
parasite cleanse
pregnenolone creams
weekly clay masks
Its safe to say I have tried plenty in the 3 years I have been dealing with these symptoms
I always persisted and stuck as close to the requirements of each attempt I've made at alleviating my symptoms.
Anyway, I feel like I may have found the answer now. Its been discussed on these boards in small amounts and google searches seem to show only a few documented reports of people actually discussing this idea, it seems it can be found in other drug related ailments which are similar to those of accutane.
So the other weekend I was out for a night out with some mates, I never really do drugs due to how crappy I feel most of the time and being scared of what they may actually do to me that accutane hasn't already done or if anything make my problems worse. But then I thought yolo fuck it whatever.
So I had 2x caps of some MDMA that a friend of mine bought off the internet, Apparently the source is credible and the quality insured by hundreds of reviews on the deep web. Needless to say I had fun, blah blah blah, The night ended early so I got home and just lay in bed thinking. When all of a sudden i realized, boom! no eye floaters. not even one. I've had them for 2 years constantly and can even see them when I sleep. I was utterly shocked. I turned on my light in my room which normally makes them become so large and obvious I get a little angry. Nothing at all. I literally went from being in pitch black to as bright as I could in my rooms (2 sources of light plus white screen on TV) just to test this properly. seriously nothing at all.
So then I did a little research on MD and broke it down into the chemical sequence it initiates in order for you to have so much fun. It basically causes large amounts of serotonin to be released from tissue inside the brain. It also block the receptors which regulate serotonin in order to control mood, so basically you just have tons of serotonin in your head and you feel good because of that. Obviously this is dumbed down and I'm sure people can elaborate on this but thats not the point.
In 2013 I had a hair mineral analysis done and noted on the results that my copper in soft tissue was of the flipping charts. This is because Accutane increases estrogen which in turn allows copper to build up. It piles up in the liver as that is already getting bombarded witch Vitamin A and cannot function. So it over flows and stores itself in soft tissue, like the brain and joints in order to bail from killing the liver. (a little theory of mine here is that those who have suffered accutane effects in the extremities often have a weak liver to begin with either genetically or though poor diet, I myself ate thousand of sweets/lollies as a kid and also binge drank alcohol during my accutane course as I was young and naive, and also ill-informed by a rouge doctor)
Further research of copper shows that when in the brain soft tissue it has a dramatic effect on serotonin and how it is produced. It basically make it redundant by oxidizing it. So although you may be able to make it, you never really get to see the benefits of it, eg. sharp memory, mood, cognitive functions, focus etc etc.
So in conclusion. The accumulation of copper in the brains soft tissue, as a result of accutanes effect on estrogen and the liver, results in the stunting of serotonin production.
CURE:
From what I gather Nutritional balancing seems to be the most discussed way of getting copper out of soft tissue. This is anecdotal and just seems to be what I read about the most on the internet.
It seems this can take months and even years depending on the severity of your case. A correct diet limiting certain foods and focusing on foods that maintain the zinc / copper balance seem to be critical.
In my own research I have heard good things about 5-HTP and the benefits it can have on serotonin production, It seems it may just get eaten up with copper but its probably worth a try just to experiment.
I believe there is equally as much money in alternative medicine as their is practical. And while I don't think any practitioner really consciously wants to deter anyone from their health, I am sure they are subconsciously biased to what they recommend to clients as far as money and repeat business goes.
This idea is open to discussion and I greatly welcome it. Obviously this is the path I am now taking and seeing as I am determined as fuck I will stick with this idea if only to rule it out.
KOI
^.
My skin looks amazing on MDMA 
. I believe and think that our sides are fully dependent on our serotonin levels and possibly dopamine production.
Mdma, Weed, Liquor, Mushrooms, NoFap, and **High dose SSRI** are the only things that have drastically lowered symptoms and made me feel normal and beautiful.
**I started on a low dose (5mg) SSRI Cipralex and worked my way up to 20mg. @ 20mg almost all symptoms were completely gone however i just felt way too speedy in my mind to continue on it. I stopped the SSRI's and went with NoFap which is a longer and harder approach but gets me close to the same results.
I am going to discuss with my doctor about trying other SSRI's that don't make me feel so speedy ><.
Koi go to a doctor and talk about getting prescription SSRI meds. They will make your skin beautiful like it is on MDMA.