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Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

 
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(@kokodu)

Posted : 12/23/2014 3:21 pm

I will try taking Vitamin A just to see what happens.

Been avoiding it for awhile now.

 

 

Also if anyone is struggling with erections try:

http://www.drugs.com/hcg.html

HCG shots from a Hollistic Doctor. This might jumpstart your libido again, it did for me.

I had been trying HCG for over one month.

My testosteron level increased from 380 ng/dl to 1230 ng/dl (249-836 ng/dl is normal)

Unfortunately my libido didn't change.

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(@youbetterloveyourself)

Posted : 12/23/2014 5:36 pm

 

I will try taking Vitamin A just to see what happens.

Been avoiding it for awhile now.

 

 

Also if anyone is struggling with erections try:

http://www.drugs.com/hcg.html

HCG shots from a Hollistic Doctor. This might jumpstart your libido again, it did for me.

I had been trying HCG for over one month.

My testosteron level increased from 380 ng/dl to 1230 ng/dl (249-836 ng/dl is normal)

Unfortunately my libido didn't change.

Have you seen a endocrinologist?

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(@kokodu)

Posted : 12/23/2014 6:15 pm

No. Why should I? What he could tell me I haven't known yet?

I have big resentment to doctors cause during visits they had no idea how to help and mostly I knew more than they.

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Posted : 12/23/2014 11:20 pm

No. Why should I? What he could tell me I haven't known yet?

I have big resentment to doctors cause during visits they had no idea how to help and mostly I knew more than they.

What is your complete hormone profile look like?

I mean you could be eligible for HGH or IGF1.

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Posted : 12/24/2014 3:04 am

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2835911/

oh geez..

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(@youbetterloveyourself)

Posted : 12/24/2014 5:21 am

I took some Cod Liver Oil...

Holy crap, felt like my brain was rewiring itself.

Not sure if it was a good feeling or bad.

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Posted : 12/24/2014 5:39 am

From this study... on how accutane ultimately works:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2835911/

"Only three genes were commonly downregulated. The temporal changes in gene expression in patient skin noted with isotretinoin substantiate many previously reported effects of isotretinoin and other retinoids, suggesting a model wherein isotretinoin induces apoptosis leading to reduced sebaceous gland size, decreased expression of lipid metabolizing enzymes and increased matrix remodeling during acne resolution."

Then this:

https://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/min_manganese.html

Manganese tends to activate the lipid metabolizing enzyme lipoprotein lipase, otherwise called the "clearing factor."

Manganese seems to be important for the enzymatic activity of glycosyltransferases, which play a vital role in mucopolysaccharide synthesis. Impaired activity of these enzymes, due to manganese deficiencies, can result in abnormal cartilage formation.

to this:

http://naturalsociety.com/11-foods-support-liver-cleanse-diet-detox-toxins/

LIPASE

This is because the liver helps to create and process special enzymes called lipase that digest fats and guess where most of the toxins in our bodies are stored when they arent running through our bloodstream you guessed it in our fat! It is essential to include detoxifying foods every single day to naturally have a liver cleanse diet.

Because the liver helps to create and process special enzymes called lipase that digest fats and guess where most of the toxins in our bodies are stored when they arent running through our bloodstream you guessed it in our fat!

It should come as no surprise that those with clogged and over-taxed livers have a very difficult time losing weight, or feel that they have no energy to carry them through the day. They might also suffer from other ailments like acne, eczema, psoriasis, bloating, headaches, and more, from carrying around an excessive toxic burden. Our poor liver need some help!

Without bile, made by the liver, the body could neither take in nutrients or expel unnecessary matter that our bodies dont need. Further, without proper bile production and bile acids, we cant lose weight! We shouldnt even consider trying to lose weight if our livers are clogged and toxically overloaded!

  • The livers main job is to aid the lipase enzymes to digest fats; if your liver or gallbladder (where bile acids are stored) are not working properly, fats and toxins will not be broken down correctly and will start building up, thereby causing weight gain.

which keeps bringing me back to this fascinating post

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/tmj-disorder-temporomandibular-joint/570179-how-i-fixed-my-tmj-fatigue.html

I didnt really read up on lipase too much after reading what he wrote, and then Duul posted that pubmed on accutane decreasing lipase!

It really all knind of makes sense....im increasing my dosage to 20mg of Mn every other day instead of 10mg a day to see if i get any reaction from a bigger single dosage. Again, i think we might need a lot more than this to alter something. im talking 50-100mg which is way more than normal, but i think we might be the exception to all of the rules from using accutane, but its best to start slow and watch of any effects.

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(@kokodu)

Posted : 12/24/2014 6:58 am

 

No. Why should I? What he could tell me I haven't known yet?

I have big resentment to doctors cause during visits they had no idea how to help and mostly I knew more than they.

What is your complete hormone profile look like?

I mean you could be eligible for HGH or IGF1.

I had some this year for example testosteron, androstendion, DHEA, FSH, FT3, FT4, estradiol, cortisol, prolactin, LH, TSH etc.

Where is also igE - 3,67 IU/ml (norm 0 - 100 IU/ml)

I can not find HGH or IGF1 - are they so important to check as well?

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(@youbetterloveyourself)

Posted : 12/24/2014 8:04 am

 

No. Why should I? What he could tell me I haven't known yet?

I have big resentment to doctors cause during visits they had no idea how to help and mostly I knew more than they.

What is your complete hormone profile look like?

I mean you could be eligible for HGH or IGF1.

I had some this year for example testosteron, androstendion, DHEA, FSH, FT3, FT4, estradiol, cortisol, prolactin, LH, TSH etc.

Where is also igE - 3,67 IU/ml (norm 0 - 100 IU/ml)

I can not find HGH or IGF1 - are they so important to check as well?

I think at this point yes I would check all your numbers. Including sexual binding gobulin and androgen receptors (can be tested through blood).

 

 

NOTE: I tried Castor Oil eye drops last night, very good for dry eye.

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(@ihateaccutane)

Posted : 12/24/2014 8:07 am

It says temporal changes.. Yaeh :)

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(@tryingtohelp2014)

Posted : 12/24/2014 8:20 am

Is this why triglycerides increase dramatically while on accutane?

http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=%2FPNS%2FPNS34_03%2FS0029665175000432a.pdf&code=2da798714249599e3592b187924f0996

decreased Lipase expression

also this

Lipoprotein lipase expression level influences tissue clearance of chylomicron retinyl ester

http://www.jlr.org/content/40/3/565.full

lipase seems to play a big role in this?!

........ and then i find this!!!

Lipoprotein Lipase Deficiency

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK1308/

Agents/circumstances to avoid: Agents known to increase endogenous triglyceride concentration including alcohol, oral estrogens, diuretics, isotretinoin, glucocorticoids, Zoloft, and beta-adrenergic blocking agents; fish oil supplements are contraindicated because they contribute to chylomicron levels.

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(@yetanotheraccutanevictim)

Posted : 12/24/2014 12:40 pm

Is this why triglycerides increase dramatically while on accutane?

http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=%2FPNS%2FPNS34_03%2FS0029665175000432a.pdf&code=2da798714249599e3592b187924f0996

decreased Lipase expression

also this

Lipoprotein lipase expression level influences tissue clearance of chylomicron retinyl ester

http://www.jlr.org/content/40/3/565.full

lipase seems to play a big role in this?!

........ and then i find this!!!

Lipoprotein Lipase Deficiency

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK1308/

Agents/circumstances to avoid: Agents known to increase endogenous triglyceride concentration including alcohol, oral estrogens, diuretics, isotretinoin, glucocorticoids, Zoloft, and beta-adrenergic blocking agents; fish oil supplements are contraindicated because they contribute to chylomicron levels.

very interesting that the amount of lipoprotein lipase is related to our ability to clear retinoids. however, if we had decreased levels of clearing-factor lipase expression, wouldn't we see a major increase in our triglycerides? my TGs stayed below 80mg/dL throughout the entire course of accutane. they continue to stay low to this day yet I experience major symptoms. I believe that our lipase functioning is okay. people with LPL enzyme deficiency have trigs above 2000mg/dL

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(@shadeo14)

Posted : 12/24/2014 2:29 pm

 

It says temporal changes.. Yaeh

There was only 8 weeks of follow up in the study, they have no way of knowing what happens beyond that

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Posted : 12/24/2014 4:11 pm

The chemical structure of Accutane looks very closely to Vitamin A.

I mean this isn't a 100 percent synthetic drug, like say Finasteride.

I AM CONVINCED There is a way to reverse this. I don't think it's as bad as we think.

I think my dosage being to high is the reason I am in this position.

I should have took a lower DOSE.

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(@yetanotheraccutanevictim)

Posted : 12/24/2014 6:03 pm

Just got my Doctor's Data Hair Analysis results.

Toxic Metals: (Barium was high due to drinking a barium solution for an x-ray back in May)

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Essential and Other Elements: (Manganese looks good here as well)

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Some mineral ratios: (all look decent)

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- Going to supplement with a little lithium, germanium, and chromium while increasing the amount of bone broth for phosphorus.

It's amazing how all of our lab tests that we get don't show anything too abnormal.

It would be cool if someone else could get a liver function test like Timatron got.. I think our livers are just clogged/dysfunctional

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Posted : 12/24/2014 6:42 pm

I am liver flushing after holidays are over.

Also this is an excellent liver cleanser:

http://www.amazon.com/Flora-Flor-essence-Liquid-Blend-32-Ounces/dp/B0010EG6IK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1419464541&sr=8-2&keywords=flor+essence

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(@yetanotheraccutanevictim)

Posted : 12/24/2014 8:38 pm

Which liver flushing method are you going to use?

I am going to try Andreas Moritz' liver flush in a couple days.

Who recommended that flor-essence tea to you? It seems like it is pretty amazing based on the reviews. I may try making it one day.

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Posted : 12/24/2014 11:14 pm

I have already been taking it for about two weeks. I feel it detoxing me, it's quite amazing.

I found it at my local health food store, cheaper online.

I might do Hulda Clarks liver flush.

I also have Andreas Moritz' book.

NOTE: Planning a trip to Colorado for next month, going to find the Rick Simpson Oil. Will post results when taking it.

-DMT-

I am not a doctor and...

I am not recommending doing DMT but it could prove to beneficial for us.

Since DMT is naturally occuring in the brain. It will not harm you. It could help our neurotransmitters, depression and prevent suicide.

Also not recommending mushrooms but....Yeah it could help depression.

 

 

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(@walden-rev)

Posted : 12/25/2014 1:43 am

I have already been taking it for about two weeks. I feel it detoxing me, it's quite amazing.

I found it at my local health food store, cheaper online.

I might do Hulda Clarks liver flush.

I also have Andreas Moritz' book.

NOTE: Planning a trip to Colorado for next month, going to find the Rick Simpson Oil. Will post results when taking it.

-DMT-

I am not a doctor and...

I am not recommending doing DMT but it could prove to beneficial for us.

Since DMT is naturally occuring in the brain. It will not harm you. It could help our neurotransmitters, depression and prevent suicide.

Also not recommending mushrooms but....Yeah it could help depression.

 

 

Be very very careful with DMT.

If you are mentally instable dont do it.

Most important is the set and setting.

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Posted : 12/25/2014 2:12 am

 

I have already been taking it for about two weeks. I feel it detoxing me, it's quite amazing.

I found it at my local health food store, cheaper online.

I might do Hulda Clarks liver flush.

I also have Andreas Moritz' book.

NOTE: Planning a trip to Colorado for next month, going to find the Rick Simpson Oil. Will post results when taking it.

-DMT-

I am not a doctor and...

I am not recommending doing DMT but it could prove to beneficial for us.

Since DMT is naturally occuring in the brain. It will not harm you. It could help our neurotransmitters, depression and prevent suicide.

Also not recommending mushrooms but....Yeah it could help depression.

 

Be very very careful with DMT.

If you are mentally instable dont do it.

Most important is the set and setting.

Have you done it?

I have watched some videos on peoples experience, most important is to meditate first, relaxed then take a hit. See the effects.

 

 

Some more MRI's...

-Lumbar / Low Back MRI from 2011 (Post accutane)-

Middle picture is the...Middle slice of the MRI, low back pain.

The last pictures show moisture in my discs.

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Posted : 12/25/2014 2:51 am

UPDATE: I ordered a Hulda Clark Zapper, it is suppose to send frequencies through your body and turn ON white blood cells.

Most of our white blood are actually TURNED OFF!

What is a zapper and what does it do

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The zapper is a device invented by Dr. Clark. It kills parasites, bacteria, viruses, molds and fungi electrically. Viruses and bacteria disappear in three minutes; tapeworm stages, flukes, roundworms in five; and mites in seven. A battery-operated, positive offset with a very low voltage from 5 to 10 volts is sufficient. It kills parasites and bacteria wherever the current reaches them. But it does not reach the eyes, the appendix, the testes, the inner ear bones. The current travels along the stomach or intestinal wall, not through its content. It does not reach into the gallstones or into the living cells. The current does not pass uniformly through the body. With regular zapping, the current passes mainly through our liquids, i. e our lymphatic and vascular system, a small fraction reaches every organ and tissue of our body. Blood and lymph are the most important locations to zap.

There are no side effects, since the zapper is energized by a 9-volt battery. This is too small a voltage to harm you. In her book: "The Prevention of all Cancers", Dr. Clark states that she has seen no effects on blood pressare, mental alertness, or body temperature. It has never produced pain, although it has often stopped pain instantly.

Only if you are pregnant or wearing a pacemaker, you should not zap, for these situations have not been explored yet. Children as young as eight months have been zapped with no noticeable il effects. For them, you should weigh the possible benefits against the unknown risks.

Benefits of zapping

The removal of parasites, bacteria, viruses, and fungus.

A positive electrical force that pulses up and down also energizes the white blood cells to go on an all-out attack on the enemies: parasites, toxins, bacteria, everything in spite of their five immunity blockers: benzene, PCBs, metals, dyes and asbestos. For a time the WBCs turn into Super-WBCs. That is why Dr. Clark recommends eight hours of zapping daily for the sick until they are well.

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Posted : 12/25/2014 3:35 am

Here are my 2014 MRI Images for Low Back / Lumbar:

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Posted : 12/25/2014 4:21 am

MRI of my NECK 2013- (post accutane)

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Looks good. Just sharing.

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Posted : 12/25/2014 4:58 am

Just posted a seperate topic on my Brain being fixed with Accutane.

My thread "Accutane changed my Brain/Skull, Fixing my Arnold-Chiari Malformation Type 1"

 

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Posted : 12/25/2014 4:59 am

I have already been taking it for about two weeks. I feel it detoxing me, it's quite amazing.

I found it at my local health food store, cheaper online.

I might do Hulda Clarks liver flush.

I also have Andreas Moritz' book.

 

 

NOTE: Planning a trip to Colorado for next month, going to find the Rick Simpson Oil. Will post results when taking it.

-DMT-

I am not a doctor and...

I am not recommending doing DMT but it could prove to beneficial for us.

Since DMT is naturally occuring in the brain. It will not harm you. It could help our neurotransmitters, depression and prevent suicide.

Also not recommending mushrooms but....Yeah it could help depression.

I generally wanted to avoid talking about these drugs (to avoid people thinking I was some sort of delusional drug addict).. I don't think you sound like one btw.

I have a consistent experience on some drugs that I feel relates to some sort of pain in my body.

I have done a considerable amount of mushrooms and i get this one consistent body high experience every time. It feels as if my shoulders are lifting out of my body, and my back finally feels like one sturdy pain free unit. Anyways I tried a juice fast a while back and hit ketosis in 12 hours. During the fast, I had the same feeling in my shoulders as I do on mushrooms. This feeling is so unique to me that I am absolutely confident I am not mixing it up with any other feelings. I ended the fast due to real life commitments and the lack of energy I had, but I found it incredibly odd. Maybe I was just tripping....pun intended. haha. I am getting more drawn towards fasting/liver cleansing to fix my digestive system. I'm not sure why I keep procrastinating. I am going to try a liver cleanse after the holidays.

Not trying to derail the thread, but just posting this in case you find it interesting.

Also.... Stating the obvious but,

Mushrooms may help depression, but they can also make it worse. You need to be in very comfortable calm environments when taking them. If not, they can bring out your biggest anxieties. Never done DMT but I assume it requires a similar environment.

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