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Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

 
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Posted : 12/18/2014 3:53 pm

I think the "solutions" have been beaten to death. I mean look back at the first 50 pages of this topic. The exact same "solutions" are repeating themselves.

If someone really did find a CURE to reverse the side effects it would have been found by now.

I do believe the side effects go away with time, depending on the DOSAGE you took in the first place. If you took a full 6 month course that will require a lot more time.

Go live your life, eat healthy, excercise, meditate and calm your brain. Reduce the stress, because worrying about this will probably age you faster in the long run.

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(@movingon)

Posted : 12/18/2014 10:42 pm

Can anyone attest to continued positive effects from manganese supplementation? I'm talking longer than one month if anyone's been taking it that long.

Update: Still on a strict candida diet...definitely have yeast implicated in this mess, but likely won't go away until my gut is restored....if it ever is. It's been exacerbating my joint inflammation, hair thinning, and skin itching. Definitely perpetuating my food sensitivities as well. BAH HUMBUG. At least Nystatin has provided major symptomatic relief. My gums aren't burning away with bacteria, the greasy scalp is reduced significantly, itching has subsided, joint pain significantly improved, and my sleep...welll, I didn't think sleep was possible until this point. Those yeast are little biotches. Also, interesting fact, candida will eat your blood sugar, making you hypoglycemic...but it's not because you are prediabetic, it's because they are feeding on your blood glucose.

In the backdrop of all this, still vitamin A sensitive, and any ingestion of it in any form exacerbates my symptoms. Yay!

I also agree that topics often go in circles, but I still believe that there is a wealth of information on here, and that we're close. I just don't necessarily believe supplementation is going to bring about this change. Just my belief, not a fact. I think the CBD and stem cell approach had my hopes up a while back, but neither of those are possiblities for me at this time.

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Posted : 12/18/2014 11:41 pm

What about calcium playing a role in all of this? thought i read one time it mitigated vitamin A toxic effects. there are major studies about vitamin A negative effects on vitamin d and calcium absorption and how it effects bone. calcium also produces sebum. even small amounts of vitamin a 2500-3000 have negative effects on vitamin d thus calcium as well. this could be similar with accutane. i know bones are still growing up until about a persons 20's then your bones i think are constantly losing calcium and this becomes a big part of aging. A japanese study also showed calcium loss was the major cause of skin aging. and i know most of us prob arent drinking milk because of the vit a content.

and who has really tried supplementing with say 1500mg calcium citrate for a good amount of time? anyone?

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Posted : 12/19/2014 4:34 am

I will try Daily B12 Intramuscular Injections, yes injections in the leg muscle.

I get a B vitamin vial from my hollistic doctor.

I will also be injecting IGF-1 intramuscular, this should get rid of the dry skin problem.

I will also do the magnaese, choline and calcium supplements for detox.

As for the liver flush, I am not convinced it is needed right now.

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Posted : 12/19/2014 6:24 pm

Has anyone ever seen this post before? Thought is was interesting. http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1766179

By the way, I got a 3 hour lactulose breath test today for SIBO and it came out completely negative. Both hydrogen and methane never rose above 2ppm.

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Posted : 12/19/2014 7:07 pm

LONG time lurker, first post because this really, really interests me as i suffered a very strange thing that no doctor has really been able to make much of. I hope someone can shed some light on this one day:

I went on it over ten years ago, I had very severe cystic acne on my cheeks and upper body, rest of my face was always clear though. Ironically the most annoying side for me was really severe pimples.

As strange as this sounds, my cheeks and upper body cleared up perfectly, but all the areas that had always been clear just broke out like crazy (legs, scalp, forehead, chin)... it's as if I traded in the clear areas for the previously cystic areas.

I was put on more accutane three times as well as antibiotics, anti-fungals..... you name it. It just won't go away, it comes and goes but its always there. I don't believe it's acne....even if for some reason I had developed more acne after actuate, if had worked so well at treating my severe case before, why would it not work for the new lesions? What I do believe happened is that I was on a very high dose (160mg, 5 months) since I had acne conglobata and it must have changed something in my skin permanently to where it doesn't function normally any more. How to fix it? Who knows, I've tried for a decade.

So basically I'm no better off than when I started. Sure my cheeks and upper body are clear now, but the rest of my body is covered in bumps. To add insult to injury I also suffer:

- Anger

- severe anxiety (to the point where i was housebound for some time)

- ED

- depression

- severe dry eyes

In general I've just felt "off" ever since...... like I know something isn't right, I know I damaged my long-term health. I've had bloodwork but aside from liver enzymes and kidney function being a bit on the iffy side, everything turns out well. I was an elite-level athlete before, not anymore but I can still hold my own and my diet is on point which I believe has helped. There's also a lot of interesting stuff of neuroplasticity and how SSRI use leads to new neurons and/or neural pathways which may have been destroyed by accutane. In my experience this is not so, as I have been on numerous of these drugs and I feel just as terrible but that's just me.

Sorry my post is all over the place, all I really want is to know why my breakouts became WORSE after accutane. If I could solve that riddle I'd be happy.

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(@movingon)

Posted : 12/19/2014 7:26 pm

Anyone..anyone....Bueller?

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(@deebo)

Posted : 12/20/2014 5:46 am

Tryingtohelp and others-thank you for your determination and God bless your intelligence. Keep up the work. Although I'm not optimistic, it's nice to know something is being done that I myself cannot facilitate.

 

I will be undergoing your manganese protocol after the holidays. What are your thoughts on the anti oxidant supplements? I want to take them as I feel extremely toxic and have a dull pain near my gall bladder area- although mri and blood work were not alarming. I plan to do a fast soon.

 

Also I figured I would list a couple rare things that myself and twin brother have encountered over the years that I have not seen listed.

 

My brother developed TTP thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura about 8 years after stopping Accutane. -very rare condition which results in blood clotting in the smaller blood vessels throughout the body. He almost died. It is caused by inhibition of ADAMTS13 enzyme.

 

A common issue with people including those whom were not on Accutane-I have recurring calcium deposits in my mouth behind my bottom front teeth. (This is not a big deal, but I have read posts about the role of calcium on this thread)

 

We have most all symptoms mentioned here and have been off the drug for almost 15 years. It's probably of no help but I thought I would throw out information. I think the rare sides that others do not experience or have a family history of might be of some use.

 

Finally, what is the most effective/economical way to get a baseline of my health-something more in depth than standard blood work. I want to try to do something about this before my body completely shits out on me and I drive of a cliff. Unlike some here, I knew after a couple months of the drug, that my symptoms would not go away. I have accepted that to a degree. I never sought help due to my perception that doctors would laugh it off or give me some bullshit explanation. So what is your best advice for overcoming these obstacles when seeking to get a baseline?

 

Thank you guys!

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Posted : 12/20/2014 6:11 am

Sorry to hear your brother almost died.

What was/is his treatment to activate this enzym or does he use blood thinners ?

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(@yetanotheraccutanevictim)

Posted : 12/20/2014 7:34 am

Curious about the thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura as well. I have EXTREMELY poor blood flow. I know that my muscles hurt systemically so I'm sure that's also affecting my heart's ability to pump effectively. When I give blood to get tested, it literally just drips into the vials at a very slow pace. Not sure if I could have the same issue your brother was having.

Not sure how to get a good baseline. Just keep detailed logs of your symptoms, your energy, maybe take heart rate variability, loads of blood work so you can look back on it later to notice a trend, organic acids urine test perhaps, large comprehensive stool tests, antibody arrays, micronutrient testing, hormonal function tests such as an adrenal stress profile saliva test.

..and wow, 15 years ago was when you took it?? Have you tried anything to attempt to detox it out of your system? That's amazing that you haven't gotten over the symptoms in that amount of time. I commend you for living through all the pain for that long. It really helps others like me be able to go through the suffering knowing there are others who have it worse.

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Posted : 12/21/2014 3:37 am

Can the Manganese protocol people keep the board updated ?

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Posted : 12/21/2014 3:46 am

to the guy who posted this study on carnitine...here is an interesting connection...

Edit: interesting study I just came across about carnitine helping accutane side effects http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/10642057

Carnitine is synthesized in part from methyl groups derived from choline and other donors via S-adenosylmethionine (Lehninger, 1975). Carnitine is a required component of carnitine-acyltranferases I and II, two molecules required for transport of long-chain fatty acids into the mitochondria for oxidation. Choline may affect lipid metabolism indirectly by influencing synthesis of carnitine. A series of studies with lactating dairy cows found that plasma and liver carnitine could be increased either by feeding or abomasal infusion of carnitine, but that milk yield and dry matter intake were not affected by carnitine supplementation (LaCount et al., 1995, 1996a, b). However, total tract digestibility of lipids and energy increased in response to carnitine supplementation by either route (LaCount et al., 1995).

Fortification Considerations

Any response to dietary supplementation of choline in ruminants would depend on factors such as age, body condition, level of productivity, sulfur amino-acid status and other choline-sparing nutrients. Folic acid, vitamin B12 and manganese status affect choline metabolism and absorption.

Manganese---> choline utilization---> carnitine production

Important for everyone taking manganese... you must take a form of choline with it.

Maybe choline is acting on the stored fatty liver deposits(i believe this is where the accutane residues are stored). but in order for this to take place, we need the manganese and the methyl groups to activate this process.

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Posted : 12/21/2014 4:16 am

What about ingesting Manganese and Choline together ? I know you said manganese alone but if they depend on eachother so much maybe its best to ingest them together ?

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Posted : 12/21/2014 7:18 am

Manganese deficiency fits very well to the picture and I've been taking it, but I'm still suspicious will this help us. You're supposed to get enough MN from food, so it feels weird that we would still be deficient of it after years of taking Accutane. Maybe our bodies can't absorb it or something else, but then supplementing it wouldn't help I guess. Should we also worry about MN overdose? Sorry if these questions have already been answered, but I was just too stupid to understand.

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Posted : 12/21/2014 10:28 am

I dont think its right to think this way. This drug altered something. its been 20+ years for me, and im still sensitive to anything with vitamin A. I think this drug impaired our liver and got stored. i think this drug depleted us in several things, and they arent easily replaced by diet, especially when youre in a constant state of inflammation.

I really think this drug killed our gut and the ability to absorb things correctly....just like with the vitamin A. Study after study shows this drug depletes things and upregulates other enzymes into overdrive.

Imagine for a second... one of us getting a liver transplant...who here doesnt think that would make something happen symptom wise? you know it would.

Mn overdose at 10mg is kind of impossible. we might need to take a lot more than this. everything you hear about Mn overdose revolves around inhalation. there has been studies up to 50mg daily with no adverse effects. That being said, if our bile flow is impaired, which i think is 100% the case... that is the main elimination of any excess Mn. so go slow...and Choline is very important in this. It allows Mn to be stored. Be mindful though... while it should help with activating the enzyme to detox the retinoids, and choline in theory should mobilize fat in the liver...symptoms might get worse first?

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Posted : 12/21/2014 9:18 pm

I dont think its right to think this way. This drug altered something. its been 20+ years for me, and im still sensitive to anything with vitamin A. I think this drug impaired our liver and got stored. i think this drug depleted us in several things, and they arent easily replaced by diet, especially when youre in a constant state of inflammation.

I really think this drug killed our gut and the ability to absorb things correctly....just like with the vitamin A. Study after study shows this drug depletes things and upregulates other enzymes into overdrive.

Imagine for a second... one of us getting a liver transplant...who here doesnt think that would make something happen symptom wise? you know it would.

Mn overdose at 10mg is kind of impossible. we might need to take a lot more than this. everything you hear about Mn overdose revolves around inhalation. there has been studies up to 50mg daily with no adverse effects. That being said, if our bile flow is impaired, which i think is 100% the case... that is the main elimination of any excess Mn. so go slow...and Choline is very important in this. It allows Mn to be stored. Be mindful though... while it should help with activating the enzyme to detox the retinoids, and choline in theory should mobilize fat in the liver...symptoms might get worse first?

With that said I am doing a liver gallbladder kidney flush.

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Posted : 12/21/2014 9:35 pm

With that said I am doing a liver gallbladder kidney flush.

That's the plan for myself as well. Hopefully the huge bolus of bile and/or stones being released at one time will eliminate blockages or leftover toxins/accutane residue. Be sure to cleanse your colon out well before and after the liver flush so the toxins aren't reabsorbed. Do everything by the book.

I bought me a $280 colema board that seems to be pretty amazing at cleaning my colon. I've only used it once though (today actually). Plan on getting more advanced with it as time passes. Going to start using different combinations of coffee, apple cider vinegar, garlic, probiotic solutions etc..

Also, I talked to my dentist about accutane while I had my nickel removed from my mouth and he said his wife took the drug. She had major kidney problems afterwards... So, we may want to cleanse our kidneys well before and after the liver flush.

I will definitely be letting everyone know if I get success with any of this kind of stuff. I'll update my signature with the info so everyone can see.

I'd like to get the email addresses of some people here to stay in contact more easily. I'd hate to fall out of contact due to something happening with the forum or something. Just private message me or email me if you want just so we can have each other's contact info. My email is in my sig

EDIT: and I've seen far too many people get results from doing stuff with their livers that it would just be plain dumb to not attempt it imo. We may just need really harsh detoxes to get the stuff out of us. We can also focus on the glucuronidation aspect as well to really get some results. I look forward to seeing what will happen with these protocols. My health is just so bad right now that it would be ridiculous for me to not have anything noticeable happen.

EDIT2: forgot to mention, I have noticed that I occasionally get spasms that occur in my liver area. not sure if it's my gallbladder trying to squeeze out bile or what but just thought it might be useful to throw that bit of info out.. I also get colon spasms as well (typically my ascending colon)

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Posted : 12/21/2014 11:26 pm

Does anyone have access to biologists or specialists whom might be interested. I remember back in the day on this forum someone had mentioned working with a scientist who was connected to accutane. We need to track these people down from the ends of the earth and get direct info. They have it. This Google searching is not enough. We need soldiers god damn it. Anyone whose been off the drug for 10 or more years will attest it gets worse. I guess we can sit and hope someone will find the holy grail bUT I'd rather have the knowledge even if it's we are all screwed.

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Posted : 12/21/2014 11:49 pm

This is my first post on this forum, unfortunately I also suffer from the horrible side effects that Roaccutane can bring on. I read this forum everyday listening to what people are dealing with and what they believe might be worth taking in order to combat their health problems. Like many of you, I would've spent thousands over the years trying to feel good again and trying to heal my damaged body. My problems are:

* Fatigue

* Depression

* Floaters in eyes

* Very sensitive to sunlight

* Pressure in head

* Thinning hair

* Unwanted body hair ( on back & shoulders )

* Varicose veins & swollen ancles

* Clicking joints

* Very dry skin

* Excess sweating

* Poor sleep

* Anger

I try to do what any normal person would do in dealing with this ( I think its now around 16 years or so ). I exercise, I do Yoga when I can, I try to eat healthy etc. I guess I'm greatful that I can still work and hold down a full-time job ( I'd imagine there's others who can't )

I've now done 2 of the "Miracle Liver Flushes".......they do release stones but it's not an ultimate cure. The area that I've probably neglected and haven't flushed is the Kidney's.....I will do this next!!

I'm trying to be concise here so sorry if it's not easy to read. I also have high Copper which I'm trying to combat........so YES to taking:

Manganese

Moly Zinc

Iron

I've been told to take HCL supplements too for gut health rather than just relying on Probiotics but have yet to try it. Has anyone tried fixing stomach acid?? My stomach feels awful at the moment, so I will look at HCL supplement soon.

I want to sincerely thank everyone who posts here for trying to help & inform others and I probably should've posted something a long time ago ( sorry for staying in the dark ). I wish everyone health & happiness and above all, I hope some sense of justice comes your way for having to deal with all this totally avoidable nonsense. From my perspective, having to deal with this crap for over 15 years for a mild case of acne on my back is nothing short of CRIMINAL.

Take care for now.

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Posted : 12/22/2014 3:20 am

I dont think its right to think this way. This drug altered something. its been 20+ years for me, and im still sensitive to anything with vitamin A. I think this drug impaired our liver and got stored. i think this drug depleted us in several things, and they arent easily replaced by diet, especially when youre in a constant state of inflammation.

I really think this drug killed our gut and the ability to absorb things correctly....just like with the vitamin A. Study after study shows this drug depletes things and upregulates other enzymes into overdrive.

Imagine for a second... one of us getting a liver transplant...who here doesnt think that would make something happen symptom wise? you know it would.

Mn overdose at 10mg is kind of impossible. we might need to take a lot more than this. everything you hear about Mn overdose revolves around inhalation. there has been studies up to 50mg daily with no adverse effects. That being said, if our bile flow is impaired, which i think is 100% the case... that is the main elimination of any excess Mn. so go slow...and Choline is very important in this. It allows Mn to be stored. Be mindful though... while it should help with activating the enzyme to detox the retinoids, and choline in theory should mobilize fat in the liver...symptoms might get worse first?

It DOES kill the gut for some people, IBS, IBD, Chrons, Ulcerative Colitis but....

I did a full colonscopy and endoscopy, With biopsies done. Nothing wrong with my intestinal lining. No celiac disease.

The worst i got were a few hemmroids, which was the cause of my rectal bleeding.

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Posted : 12/22/2014 4:43 am

 

I dont think its right to think this way. This drug altered something. its been 20+ years for me, and im still sensitive to anything with vitamin A. I think this drug impaired our liver and got stored. i think this drug depleted us in several things, and they arent easily replaced by diet, especially when youre in a constant state of inflammation.

I really think this drug killed our gut and the ability to absorb things correctly....just like with the vitamin A. Study after study shows this drug depletes things and upregulates other enzymes into overdrive.

Imagine for a second... one of us getting a liver transplant...who here doesnt think that would make something happen symptom wise? you know it would.

Mn overdose at 10mg is kind of impossible. we might need to take a lot more than this. everything you hear about Mn overdose revolves around inhalation. there has been studies up to 50mg daily with no adverse effects. That being said, if our bile flow is impaired, which i think is 100% the case... that is the main elimination of any excess Mn. so go slow...and Choline is very important in this. It allows Mn to be stored. Be mindful though... while it should help with activating the enzyme to detox the retinoids, and choline in theory should mobilize fat in the liver...symptoms might get worse first?

It DOES kill the gut for some people, IBS, IBD, Chrons, Ulcerative Colitis but....

I did a full colonscopy and endoscopy, With biopsies done. Nothing wrong with my intestinal lining.

U did not have a liver biopsy done, right? I think this would give us more insights...

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Posted : 12/22/2014 4:51 am

No liver biopsy. I do think after reading the below, it is being stored in the liver, kidneys, FAT and LUNGS.

Which means we need to LOSE as much body fat, AND SWEAT as much as possible to lose the Vitamin A storages.

Kidney Cleanse and Liver Cleanse is needed.

http://curezone.com/clark/

Lungs cleansing links:

http://www.naturalnews.com/041906_smokers_cleansing_lungs_cigarette_smoking.html

http://store.infowars.com/Lung-Cleanse_p_1294.html

http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/9-best-herbs-lung-cleansing-respiratory-support/

http://www.healthyfoodhouse.com/12-foods-plants-that-cleanse-your-lungs-and-heal-respiratory-infections/

http://www.livestrong.com/article/92541-clean-lungs-naturally/

From Wikipedia on Vitamin A overdose.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_A

Symptoms may include the following:[1]

Causes

Hypervitaminosis A results from excessive intake of preformed Vitamin A. There may be a genetic variance in tolerance to vitamin A intake.[22] Children are particularly sensitive to vitamin A, with daily intakes of 1500 IU/kg body wt reportedly leading to toxicity.[20]

Types of Vitamin A

  • Provitamin carotenoids - such as Betacarotene. It is largely impossible to get toxicity from this type of Vitamin A as conversion to retinol is a highly regulated.[20] There are no reports of Vitamin A toxicity from ingestion of excessive amounts.[23] Overconsumption of Betacarotene can however cause carotenosis, a benign condition in which the skin turns orange.
  • Preformed Vitamin A - Absorption and storage in the liver of preformed vitamin A occur very efficiently until a pathologic condition develops.[20] When ingested, 70-90% of preformed vitamin A is absorbed and utilized.[20]

Mechanism

Absorption and storage in the liver of preformed vitamin A occur very efficiently until a pathologic condition develops.[20]

Delivery to tissues

Absorption

When ingested, 70-90% of preformed vitamin A is absorbed and utilized.[20]

Storage

80% of the total body reserves of Vitamin A are in the liver. Fat is another significant storage site, while the lung and kidneys may also be capable of storage.[20]

Transport

Once in the liver, retinol binds to retinol-binding protein (RBP) and is transported from the liver to tissues as the holo-RBP complex. The range of serum retinol concentrations under normal conditions is 13 mol/L. Elevated amounts of retinyl ester (ie, > 10% of total circulating vitamin A) in the fasting state have been used as markers for chronic hypervitaminosis A in humans. Candidate mechanisms for this increase include decreased hepatic uptake of vitamin A and the leaking of esters into the bloodstream from saturated hepatic stellate cells.[20]

Effects

Effects include, but are not limited to, increased bone turnover and altered metabolism of fat-soluble vitamins. More research is needed to fully elucidate the effects.

Increased bone turnover

It is known that Retinoic acid suppresses osteoblast activity and stimulates osteoclast formation in vitro,[23] resulting in increased bone resorption and decreased bone formation. It is likely to exert this effect by binding to specific nuclear receptors (members of the retinoic acid receptor or retinoid X receptor nuclear transcription family) which are found in every cell (including osteoblasts and osteoclasts).

This change in bone turnover is likely to be the reason for numerous effects seen in Hypervitaminosis A such as hypercalcemia and numerous bone changes such as bone loss that potentially leads to osteoporosis, spontaneous bone fractures, altered skeletal development in children, skeletal pain, radiographic changes,[20][23] and bone lesions.[29]

Altered fat-soluble vitamin metabolism

Vitamin A is fat-soluble and high levels have been reported affect metabolism of the other fat-soluble vitamins D,[23] E and K.

The toxic effects of Vitamin A might be related to altered Vitamin D metabolism, concurrent ingestion of substantial amounts of Vitamin D or binding of Vitamin A to receptor heterodimers. There have been reported antagonistic and synergistic interactions between these 2 vitamins as they relate to skeletal health.

It has been reported that stimulation of bone resorption by Vitamin A is independent of its effects on Vitamin D.[23]

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Posted : 12/22/2014 5:38 am

A post I found somewhere...
"Hello Scott,

Yes. I do believe the over consumption of Vitamin A could be a contributing factor in floaters. Few people know that the body stores large quantities of A in the liver. Ive read that vit A consumed today can remain in your body for as long as 7 years.

I, myself, consume absolutely no vitamin A in supplement form. The only A I consume is in the food that I eat. Every so often, I experience the symptoms of A overdose. Especially, when I eat a spinach salad(Spinach is high in vitamin A). I become dizzy and develop a bad headache. Sometimes, I get migraines. The pain becomes so bad that I become nauseous and I need to lie down for a while. I also get a shooting pain behind my left eye... the eye that has the most and darkest floaters. Below are some symptoms to watch for Vitamin A toxicity:

Headache
Dizziness
Blurred vision
Joint pain
Dry lips
Scaly-dry skin
Excessive hair loss.

Also, I do recall that the frontal lobe of the brain (behind the eyes and across the forehead) swells from too much vitamin A.

I hope I was of some help. It's been a while since Ive read about it."

 

 

For eye floaters:

 

 

with people with food allergies and/or candidiasis (chronic yeast infections).

Kidney Congestion. From the perspective of Chinese Medicine, congestion in the kidney, liver and colon can contribute to development of floaters. The nutrients and herbs we recommend are chosen for their ability to reduce congestion, helping to keep the vitreous free of these little specks and spots. In addition, these supplements help to strengthen the connective tissue of the retina and the strength of the blood veins and arteries.

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We believe that chronic stress may contribute to the generation of floaters (as well as any other health condition one may be prone to), so developing a daily routine of mediation, yoga, or relaxation is really important.

Nutrients for Floaters

These are the nutrients that are most important in managing eye floaters. In general, by strengthening the health of the retina and vitreous, one reduces the risk of developing new floaters. These nutrients act together synergistically to help lessen the risk of floaters.

  • Hyaluronic acid - Hyaluronic acid (hyaluronan) is a large molecule found in the vitreous gel which it is believed contributes to its gel-like quality and may also support related connective tissue. Elsewhere in the body it is found in the gel-like fluid that lubricates joints and it is a component of the tissue healing process. As we age, the amount of hyaluronan in the body decreases.
  • Glucosame sulfate - Glucosamine sulfate helps maintain connective tissue integrity. Some floaters are caused by disintegration of the lining of the vitreous sac. This nutrient may help slow down the natural aging effect on a weakening vitreous. Many people have noted an increase in floaters when they have joint disorders which may be related to chronic, systemic inflammation and its effect on eye health.
  • Vitamin C - Vitamin C is a powerful antioxidant that is essential for overall eye health. Since floaters are often the result of vitreous tears/detachments and/or clumping of the vitreous due to aging, vitamin C plays a role in blood and lymph circulation, waste elimination and supporting connective tissue. It may play a role in supporting the body in breaking down eye floaters. Learn more about the role of vitamin C in the body.
  • L-methionine This amino acid can assist in removal of heavy metals and toxins that can contribute to eye disease. Methionine has a role in the body's synthesis of cysteine and taurine, two other important amino acids for vision health.
  • Inositol - The carbohydrate inositol plays a role in moderating levels of calcium in the cell membrane and within each cell, which in turn plays a role in protecting the vitreous.
  • Calcium - Calcium supports healthy connective tissue of the eye and throughout the body. Researchers have found that low levels of calcium (in proportion to phosphorus) is tied to increases in floaters.
  • Zinc, Copper & Chromium - Zinc has some antioxidant characteristics. It plays a major role in bringing Vitamin A from the liver to the retina and helps Vitamin A create a protective pigment called melanin. Zinc also helps support the health of tiny capillaries in the eye, which are essential in nourishing the retina and related connective tissue. Zinc and copper, in balance, help support a proper acid balance in the body, which in turn helps may help avoid development of new floaters. Chromium may help limit nearsightedness, a risk factor for eye floaters. Chromium also has a role in sugar balance in the body.
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Posted : 12/22/2014 5:59 am

These are my brain MRIs I had done for my Arnold Chiari Malformation Type 1.

It seems accutane may SHRINK brain matter.

In 2006 I had not taken the accutane.

In 2011 that would be post accutane. Once again this was not accutane related but a follow up MRI for my Arnold Chiari Malformation.

However... After accutane my chronic headaches I had for years stopped.

Turns out my Chiari Malformation was fixed, this is unheard of in the Neurological field.

To fix Chiari Malformation type 1 you need brain surgery to decompress the cerebellar tonsillar. So the CSF Flow can flow freely.

So accutane actually shifted my SKULL while in development at the age of 19 when I took accutane that fixed my issue.

It could be that or my cerebellar tonsillar shrank. Which is what the RED ARROWS are pointing to.

NOTE: The 2006 MRI had less Image Slices of my Brain then my 2011 version. The contrasts are different, the image quality is better on the 2011.

However it seems there is more CSF fluid in my skull then in 2006.

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Posted : 12/22/2014 7:12 am

To detox the liver further,

Try making a Castor Oil pack:

 

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