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Hey again.
Just wanna ask one last thing about my joint pain. Whenever I workout/stretch or just going for a walk, I'm painfree in my back, at least most of the times. But as soon as I sit it starts after like 10m... How do you guys feel in your back whenever you work out/walking and sitting?
I just wanna know if a special diet could treat my pain if it's actually my body that is inflamed... What diet would that be then? Or is that just BS? I mean, after several years you would think that the body would have healed itself... I'm just so tired of trying new things all the time with no results. Takes so much energy from you.. Do you all think that the best thing I can do is to just try and walk as much as possible and try not to sit so much (not that easy 
)? Walked in stairs a few days ago to workout my knees some and it's like my bones (under the knee) are still hurting..
I would love to if the solution was to eat a special diet for a while, but do you guys think that that really could be it? Or should I just accept where I am and not worry too much about what I eat?
Yeah, could someone maybe recommend a list of foods/supplements that help joint pain. I'm 9 months post-tane (2nd course) and I just recently developed knee pain in my right knee that seems to be worsening every day. I'm only 19 so I'm not sure if its arthritis or not but based on my large isotretinion consumption in the last couple years I'm sure thats probably the case.
Yeah, could someone maybe recommend a list of foods/supplements that help joint pain. I'm 9 months post-tane (2nd course) and I just recently developed knee pain in my right knee that seems to be worsening every day. I'm only 19 so I'm not sure if its arthritis or not but based on my large isotretinion consumption in the last couple years I'm sure thats probably the case.
I was about your age as well when my problems occured. Really sucks to be so young and suddenly feeling so old... Hopefully someone here can come with something good.
Sea Buckthorn, is that OK to take? I read somewhere that you should try to avoid pretty much all vitamins post accutane, while other says only avoid A and D-vitamins. Damn, it's a jungle out there... =/
look into antihistimines.
you got your benadryl and newer ones like allegra and the nose spray astalin. these are h1 blockers. in my experience the only non sedating one seems to be allegra. also h2 blockers might be of some benefit. zantac i believe might be a little safer then pepcid. funny thing both the h1 and h2 blockers seem to have a very positive effect for me with ED. even though the opposite is supposed to be true of these drugs. allegra has made my eyes much less sensitive to light and made my vision sharper with less dryness. taken away alot of flaky skin and over all made my skin look better and less prone to redness. take at least 1 24hr allegra a day for a couple weeks and see how you do. maybe accutane all along has caused some sort of allergic reaction, flare up or messed up histamine receptors. just a new angle for you guys. btw been dealing with this shit like many of you now for half my life post accutane. and im determined to get it back. peace.
and also even my hair is looking better taking allegra. no new growth yet but it feels healthier. and ive only been taking allegra for less then a week.
look into antihistimines.
you got your benadryl and newer ones like allegra and the nose spray astalin. these are h1 blockers. in my experience the only non sedating one seems to be allegra. also h2 blockers might be of some benefit. zantac i believe might be a little safer then pepcid. funny thing both the h1 and h2 blockers seem to have a very positive effect for me with ED. even though the opposite is supposed to be true of these drugs. allegra has made my eyes much less sensitive to light and made my vision sharper with less dryness. taken away alot of flaky skin and over all made my skin look better and less prone to redness. take at least 1 24hr allegra a day for a couple weeks and see how you do. maybe accutane all along has caused some sort of allergic reaction, flare up or messed up histamine receptors. just a new angle for you guys. btw been dealing with this shit like many of you now for half my life post accutane. and im determined to get it back. peace.
and also even my hair is looking better taking allegra. no new growth yet but it feels healthier. and ive only been taking allegra for less then a week.
look into antihistimines.
you got your benadryl and newer ones like allegra and the nose spray astalin. these are h1 blockers. in my experience the only non sedating one seems to be allegra. also h2 blockers might be of some benefit. zantac i believe might be a little safer then pepcid. funny thing both the h1 and h2 blockers seem to have a very positive effect for me with ED. even though the opposite is supposed to be true of these drugs. allegra has made my eyes much less sensitive to light and made my vision sharper with less dryness. taken away alot of flaky skin and over all made my skin look better and less prone to redness. take at least 1 24hr allegra a day for a couple weeks and see how you do. maybe accutane all along has caused some sort of allergic reaction, flare up or messed up histamine receptors. just a new angle for you guys. btw been dealing with this shit like many of you now for half my life post accutane. and im determined to get it back. peace.
and also even my hair is looking better taking allegra. no new growth yet but it feels healthier. and ive only been taking allegra for less then a week.
look into antihistimines.
you got your benadryl and newer ones like allegra and the nose spray astalin. these are h1 blockers. in my experience the only non sedating one seems to be allegra. also h2 blockers might be of some benefit. zantac i believe might be a little safer then pepcid. funny thing both the h1 and h2 blockers seem to have a very positive effect for me with ED. even though the opposite is supposed to be true of these drugs. allegra has made my eyes much less sensitive to light and made my vision sharper with less dryness. taken away alot of flaky skin and over all made my skin look better and less prone to redness. take at least 1 24hr allegra a day for a couple weeks and see how you do. maybe accutane all along has caused some sort of allergic reaction, flare up or messed up histamine receptors. just a new angle for you guys. btw been dealing with this shit like many of you now for half my life post accutane. and im determined to get it back. peace.
and also even my hair is looking better taking allegra. no new growth yet but it feels healthier. and ive only been taking allegra for less then a week.
Hmm, that's pretty interesting. I may try allegra as well to see if it helps any. I do suffer from blurred vision post accutane so I'll see if it helps in that area. As for hair health I don't see how it would help but it won't hurt to try.
I read some random post a few days ago about how some guy knew a dr or pharmacist who would take a antihistimine even though he didnt have allergies because it helped his hair growth and reversed some of his hair loss. yea not sure about this either. wouldnt apply to everyone im sure. but long time ago when i complained to my derm about the hair loss he said it was prob allergies and it would come and go. i do know histamine receptors are in the skin just like people take them for hives. zrytec might be effective too(havent tried it yet) i just know allegra dosnt pass the blood brain barrier even at double dose. and btw i would stay away from h2 blockers( antacids) even though i mentioned it earlier. zantac seem to have a very depressive effect on me after a couple beers. h2 blockers do cross the blood brain barrier.
antihistimines, telomeres, cannabis oil load of bollocks the lot of it. Heres a concept for those looking at a supplement to cure their problems, it's not going to happen, believe me i've had this for 11 years and have taken every supplement that you can possibly imagine, and it's all bullshit, straight up.
The one thing i'll say honestly is stop looking for symptom relief and actually try to embark on dealing with the cause, the actual core of the problem.
Start eating fruits & vegetables, fiber rich foods to heal the colon like Psyllium, chia seeds, flax, hemp seeds, take probiotic rich food like kombucha, water kefir, sauerkraut this will help your colon transit time if your suffering from constipation. Drink teas to cleanse the liver containing (dandelion, licorice, milk thistle, artichoke), likewise do the same for the kidneys, teas containing (parsley, fennel, celery seed, nettle). Eat Sea vegetables, this is one of the few things that pretty much everyone if deficient in, iodine, especially those with skin, hair or nail problems. Add things like wakame, kelp, dulse to salads, try nori wraps, with sprouted mungbeans, iodine is great for healing the thyroid which speeds metabolism, strengthens hair, skin and nails.
Add trace minerals from celtic sea salt, buy a few sprouting jars and sprout sunflower seeds for salads, sprout chickpeas etc. Loads of salads, with avocado's tomato's, cucumbers, sea vegetables, sprouted seeds and olive oil and raw apple cider vinegar as dressing (acv helps stomach acid, contains good bacteria and live enzymes). Juice regularly, especially green juices it's the single best vitamin/ mineral supplement you could ever put into your body. Buy a dry skin brush and use it everyday before showering, apply coconut oil to your body instead of lotions, eat coconut oil if your cooking. Don't use flouride in your toothpaste, buy flouride free toothpaste, stop putting chemicals on your skin. Soak nuts 24 hours before eating them, eat quinoa ( i soak mine overnight to reduce phytic acid)
Exercise, sweat, practise yoga, it helps move lymph, just like the dry skin brushing. Drink lots of water, get out in the sun as much as possible. Stop looking for a pill to heal the body, it's a combination of all things, physical, mental, spiritual, diet, lifestyle, understanding of nutrition... that's how to heal the body. It's a toxicity condition, hair loss drugs aren't going to help your post accutane hair loss, antihistimines just cover up immune reaction, they cover up inflammation.
Excellent post Chico I would say your best yet with that being said I still think CBD / RSO oil is good and heals but your right it's a combination of things that add up , exercise , good diet , hydration , herbs , spiritualism all to counter act the POISON or as I call it damage control. Because in reality Accutane is a controlled poisoning with obvious permanent damage to the human body it is after all chemotherapy ie very toxic stuff.
antihistimines, telomeres, cannabis oil load of bollocks the lot of it. Heres a concept for those looking at a supplement to cure their problems, it's not going to happen, believe me i've had this for 11 years and have taken every supplement that you can possibly imagine, and it's all bullshit, straight up.
The one thing i'll say honestly is stop looking for symptom relief and actually try to embark on dealing with the cause, the actual core of the problem.
Start eating fruits & vegetables, fiber rich foods to heal the colon like Psyllium, chia seeds, flax, hemp seeds, take probiotic rich food like kombucha, water kefir, sauerkraut this will help your colon transit time if your suffering from constipation. Drink teas to cleanse the liver containing (dandelion, licorice, milk thistle, artichoke), likewise do the same for the kidneys, teas containing (parsley, fennel, celery seed, nettle). Eat Sea vegetables, this is one of the few things that pretty much everyone if deficient in, iodine, especially those with skin, hair or nail problems. Add things like wakame, kelp, dulse to salads, try nori wraps, with sprouted mungbeans, iodine is great for healing the thyroid which speeds metabolism, strengthens hair, skin and nails.
Add trace minerals from celtic sea salt, buy a few sprouting jars and sprout sunflower seeds for salads, sprout chickpeas etc. Loads of salads, with avocado's tomato's, cucumbers, sea vegetables, sprouted seeds and olive oil and raw apple cider vinegar as dressing (acv helps stomach acid, contains good bacteria and live enzymes). Juice regularly, especially green juices it's the single best vitamin/ mineral supplement you could ever put into your body. Buy a dry skin brush and use it everyday before showering, apply coconut oil to your body instead of lotions, eat coconut oil if your cooking. Don't use flouride in your toothpaste, buy flouride free toothpaste, stop putting chemicals on your skin. Soak nuts 24 hours before eating them, eat quinoa ( i soak mine overnight to reduce phytic acid)
Exercise, sweat, practise yoga, it helps move lymph, just like the dry skin brushing. Drink lots of water, get out in the sun as much as possible. Stop looking for a pill to heal the body, it's a combination of all things, physical, mental, spiritual, diet, lifestyle, understanding of nutrition... that's how to heal the body. It's a toxicity condition, hair loss drugs aren't going to help your post accutane hair loss, antihistimines just cover up immune reaction, they cover up inflammation.
The actual core of the problem: A toxic body ?
I can create the most healthy body on earth but if my brain chemistry gives different signals to its body its a never ending battle.
I believe the brain chemistry is changed and this is where the Rso kicks in.
But hey, if you heal this way, if this is your way go for it.
This is my first post on this thread but I was following it a while back and it is nice to know that there are others experiencing negative side effects from accutane. Just a brief history: I took accutane twice, each time my acne went away and came back. I'm not exactly sure of the doses. However, about a year after my second time taking it, I noticed some pretty unusual things going on with my body i.e. increased hair loss, very dry skin, dry eyes, fatigue/apathy, muscle fatigue, and perhaps most annoying of them all, digestion problems. I'm pretty sure many of you have experienced similar things. It wasn't until about two years after I had been experiencing these side effects that I decided to visit a holistic/naturopathic/homeopathic doctor. Regular doctors weren't doing much, so I figured I would give it a try.
The first thing the holistic doctor did was to change my diet. Increased intake of fruits and vegetables, which are high in fiber, and began eating yogurt regularly (it is supposed to be good for digestion). I have since then avoided junk food (it sucks, but its worth it) like cheetos and popcorn, etc. I also increased my workout regimen, being especially careful to work out my legs. Hitting the bench rack is great but I doubt it does as much for your overall health as squats, running, etc.
My doctor also recommended a few tests. The one that helped most was NutraEval. It identified key vitamins/elements that my body was lacking. The main things that I was missing were Baffidobacter bacteria (a probiotic), Vitamin C, Vitamin D, alpha lipoic acids, glutathione, and Vitamin B in general (there are a lot of different vitamin B's). I have been taking supplements for each of these (n-acetyl-cysteine for glutathione, the rest are pretty self explanatory) and have since seen monumental (in my eyes) improvements. Hair loss has decreased dramatically, my skin is regaining its moisture and healthiness, my energy is much improved, and digestion has calmed down.
These changes have really, really, really improved my quality of life BUT I want to stress the importance of seeing a naturopathic/holistic doctor before you do anything. These people are really good at what they do, and treating people with symptoms like we have is their specialty. Make sure you get tests done (I would recommend NutraEval) to see what your body really is missing, don't just guess at what could be wrong based on my testimony or others like it. Furthermore, there really is no one supplement that is going to turn things around (even though it's fun, I highly doubt cannabis is the cure-all). It really takes commitment to change the way you live your life. Eat organic when possible to avoid the pesticides that leak into foods like apples. Avoid junk food. Work out regularly. Get out in the sun (the best way to get vitamin D).
The last bit of info I would like to pass on is that not all supplements are created equally. For example, I could grind up a piece of chalk and legally sell it as a calcium supplement (in the US at least). The supplement market is ridiculously unregulated, so it is possible that you can buy supplements that do not contain some ingredients listed on the bottle, are not very absorbable, or contain extra ingredients that are unlisted. There is a certification called "Good Manufacturing Practices" (GMP) that ensures that supplements are what they say they are. It costs companies a little extra money to get, but that is one way to know that your supplements are quality supplements and not just a waste of money. If you visit a naturopath, consult them on supplements before you buy them.
Sorry for droning on like this.
Apologies for being repetitive, but I cannot stress enough the importance of testing before you prescribe yourself a supplement. You're essentially taking a shot in the dark, and a very expensive one, if you take a supplement without prior testing. Don't waste your money, get the testing done. It can be expensive, but it is so much cheaper than spending years trying one supplement after another in the hopes of finding a cure.
Here are some links people should go through.
I'll draw the ire of those uninterested in the whole cannabis thing yet again. But I've got to point out that there is more evidence for this being beneficial than anything else I've seen.
I'm not neglecting a change in diet, but for some cannabis alone seems to hold a large degree of therapeutic benefit.
Actually read the below, don't just scroll through and post "Bullsh*t".
Is Cannabis the Antidote for Accutane?
Introduction
My limited understanding of how isotretinoin (Accutane) functions has allowed me to hypothesise that it causes ED/Sexual Dysfunction via a multi-faceted approach. This includes structural brain changes, 5-alpha reductase type I inhibition and the lasting effects explained through its epigenetic effects as explained in my other research document.
I have found individuals who took isotretinoin as far back as the 80s when it was first released as an acne treatment who still suffer persistent ED/sexual dysfunction to this day. However, I have also found a small group of individuals scattered throughout the forums online who seemed to recover after suffering for a long time. I questioned them thoroughly, enquiring into their lifestyle, diet, medication history, exercise habits, recreational drug habits, etc. etc. The ONLY similarity between them all was a copious consumption of the popular illicit recreational drug cannabis. I found this intriguing and as such read if cannabinoids could affect human physiology in a counteractive way compared to isotretinoin. What I found is suggestive that it may in fact have some very positive effects.
Cannabinoids & Neurogenesis
Shohami, E., CohenYeshurun, A., Magid, L., Algali, M., & Mechoulam, R. (2011). Endocannabinoids and traumatic brain injury. British journal of pharmacology, 163(7), 1402-1410.
There is a large body of evidence showing that the endocannabinoid (eCB) system are markedly increased in response to pathogenic events. This fact, as well as numerous studies on experimental models of brain toxicity, neuroinflammation and trauma supports the notion that the eCB are part of the brain's compensatory or repair mechanisms.
This review is focused on the role the eCB system plays as a self-neuroprotective mechanism and its potential as a basis for the development of novel therapeutic modality for the treatment of CNS pathologies.
Steiner, M. A., & Wotjak, C. T. (2008). Role of the endocannabinoid system in regulation of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenocortical axis. Progress in brain research, 170, 397-432.
The endocannabinoid system has been recognized as a major neuromodulatory system, which functions to maintain brain homoeostasis.
Rubio-Araiz, A., Arevalo-Martin, A., Gomez-Torres, O., Navarro-Galve, B., Garcia-Ovejero, D., Suetterlin, P., ... & Molina-Holgado, F. (2008). The endocannabinoid system modulates a transient TNF pathway that induces neural stem cell proliferation. Molecular and Cellular Neuroscience, 38(3), 374-380.
Found that CB1 or CB2 agonists induce neural stem cell (NSC) proliferation coupled to a significant increase in both TACE/ADAM 17 and TNF- levels. Overall these data suggest a novel mode of action for the endocannabinoid system in NSC proliferation that is coupled to TNF signalling and that may be of therapeutic interest in the emerging field of brain repair.
Gowran, A., Noonan, J., & Campbell, V. A. (2011). The multiplicity of action of cannabinoids: implications for treating neurodegeneration. CNS neuroscience & therapeutics, 17(6), 637-644.
The CB system is emerging as a key regulator of neuronal cell fate and is capable of conferring neuroprotection by the direct engagement of prosurvival pathways and the control of neurogenesis.
treatment of certain neurological diseases that feature a neurodegenerative component.
Kim, S. H., Won, S. J., Mao, X. O., Ledent, C., Jin, K., & Greenberg, D. A. (2006). Role for neuronal nitric-oxide synthase in cannabinoid-induced neurogenesis. Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics, 319(1), 150-154.
Cannabinoids also stimulate neurogenesis in the adult brain through activation of CB1R.
Fernandez-Lopez, D., Lizasoain, I., Moro, M. A., & Martinez-Orgado, J. (2013). Cannabinoids: Well-Suited Candidates for the Treatment of Perinatal Brain Injury. Brain Sciences, 3(3), 1043-1059.
The modulation of the endocannabinoid system has proven to be an effective neuroprotective strategy to prevent and reduce neonatal brain injury in different animal models and species. Also, the beneficial role of the endocannabinoid system on the control of the endogenous repairing responses (neurogenesis and white matter restoration) to neonatal brain injury has been described in independent studies.
Oudin, M. J., Hobbs, C., & Doherty, P. (2011). DAGLdependent endocannabinoid signalling: roles in axonal pathfinding, synaptic plasticity and adult neurogenesis. European Journal of Neuroscience, 34(10), 1634-1646.
control of adult neurogenesis in the hippocampus and subventricular zone.
Cannabinoids, 5-Alpha Reductase & Sex Hormones
PUROHIT, V., SINGH, H. H., & AHLUWALIA, B. S. (1979). Evidence that the effects of methadone and marihuana on male reproductive organs are mediated at different sites in rats. Biology of reproduction, 20(5), 1039-1044.
The results of the study show that methadone, 9-THC, or CBN treatment significantly decreased (P<0.01) testosterone and DHT.
Grobin, A. C., VanDoren, M. J., Porrino, L. J., & Morrow, A. L. (2005). Cortical 3-hydroxy-5-pregnan-20-one levels after acute administration of 9-tetrahydrocannabinol, cocaine and morphine. Psychopharmacology, 179(3), 544-550.
9-THC (5 mg/kg, IP) elevated cortical allopregnanolone levels to pharmacologically active levels
Allopregnanolone is a product of 5-alpha reductase
Epigenetics
Epigenetic control of neurogenesis by the brain endocannabinoid system: Involvement of mitogen-activated protein kinases - Francisco Molina-Holgado1, Pranali Pose1, Catherine Kollikho1, Daniel Garcia-Ovejero2, Uyen Le2, Eduardo Molina-Holgado2. 1Department of Life Sciences, University of Roehampton, London SW15 4JD, UK, 2Laboratory of Neuroinflammation, Unidad de Neurologia Experimental, Hospital Nacional de Paraplejicos, 45071 Toledo, Spain
Emerging evidence suggests that cannabinoid signaling regulates gene expression by inducing epigenetic modification such as DNA methylation or histone modification in the regulation of a range of neurobiological processes in the brain, including CNS development, learning, memory and neurodegeneration associated with ageing.
These studies therefore indicate a novel mode of epigenetic modification for the endocannabinoid system in neurogenesis that may be of therapeutic interest in the emerging field of brain repair.
D'Addario, C., Di Francesco, A., Pucci, M., Finazzi Agro, A., & Maccarrone, M. (2013). Epigenetic mechanisms and endocannabinoid signalling. FEBS Journal,280(9), 1905-1917.
The endocannabinoid system, composed of endogenous lipids, their target receptors and metabolic enzymes, has been implicated in multiple biological functions in health and disease, both in the central nervous system and in peripheral organs.
Possibility of an 'epigenetic therapy' that could possibly be applied also to endocannabinoids
Conclusion
I myself have found that vapourising cannabis on a regular basis to greatly improve my symptoms alongside a few others at this moment in time. At my worst I was almost completely impotent with drastically reduced sensitivity of the penile tissue and no libido. Within a week of vapourising my libido was enhanced to close to pre-isotretinoin levels and my erectile capacity also largely improved. However, as of yet no large improvements in sensitivity have occurred.
An interesting factor and it is why I included the study that showed decreased T & DHT is that while Im high it is like Im right back at square one. No libido, impotence and for whatever reason almost complete lack of a cremastic reflex (which was also reduced after isotretinoin treatment). I seem to experience a rebound effect the next day that last for a couple of weeks once the high sensation wears off.
So far I can only hypothesise how this works, but I believe there to be a 2-part process. A fast and slow process. The fast process is a simple rebound from the lowered T & DHT which I presume causes a short term up-regulation in sensitivity of 5AR and other androgen receptors. The slow process involves a gradual epigenetic shift back to baseline as opposed to the epigenetic anomalies that isotretinoin may induce.
My dr says I have prostatitis. He prescribed me antibiotics and alphablocker. Should I use it? There is no pain in that area but other sympthons are common with prostatitis. Pills again
Please guys, give me some feedback. Do you have prostate problems (difficulty to urinate or frequent urination) as well?
I am about to get prostatitis treatment with antibiotics and I dont want to be missdiagnosed.
I have no pain during pee, but low steam, difficulty in urinate and sometimes frequent urination. Do you have the same?
My dr says I have prostatitis. He prescribed me antibiotics and alphablocker. Should I use it? There is no pain in that area but other sympthons are common with prostatitis. Pills again
Please guys, give me some feedback. Do you have prostate problems (difficulty to urinate or frequent urination) as well?
I am about to get prostatitis treatment with antibiotics and I dont want to be missdiagnosed.
I have no pain during pee, but low steam, difficulty in urinate and sometimes frequent urination. Do you have the same?
Hey, I actually have the same problem. I believe it has to do with my prostate because I know prostate problems run in my family. The past few months or so I found it takes like a few seconds or more before I urinate. I don't feel the build up like I used to and the flow isn't that strong anymore. It doesn't hurt to pee or anything but I just don't feel the build up or have a strong stream. Also I don't have frequent urination, just takes a while before it comes out like I said. I was supposed to go to the urologist today but rescheduled it for next monday. I am concerned about having to go on drugs if I have an enlarged prostate because I know that the doc would prescribe me some if somethings wrong but really wouldn't want to take it. In a way though if I do have something wrong with my prostate(which I likely do due to my urination problems), maybe it is the cause of my ED, but also maybe not.
I wouldn't mind taking antibiotics but wouldn't want to take a drug for it.
I'll see what he says when I go and see what's wrong. I'll update when after next monday on what he said and what he chooses to do.
Cannabis can only do slight positive effect, but can be highly damaging too (experienced it, still regret it). And anyway it won't help for libido, it is a adrenal suppressant which are what control libido. Nothing external will correct epigenetic (everything affect it, nutrients, toxins, mood, ..), even less something highly specific like 13 cis retinoic acid, only cleaning the lymph & the interstitial fluid will permit the body to restore normal function by itself, nothing exterior will. Cannabis suppress the nervous system, which is already suppressed if you took accutane, it will only mask some symptoms nothing else.
Anonyy yes but for people suffering from depression induced by the brain changes of the isotretinoin drug then Cannabis maybe be a viable option . Cannabis is truly a cure all for many ailments , kids / adults with seizures
for example have made full recoveries where no pHARMa drug was successful , the hemp plant is not to be
underestimated for it's healing properties , also of course CANCER can be conquered with RSO oil many have even stage 4 , there are also low THC products available for people who
are not comfortable with the high..... or don't like it .
Also for joint pain etc... it is useful.
Cannabis can only do slight positive effect, but can be highly damaging too (experienced it, still regret it). And anyway it won't help for libido, it is a adrenal suppressant which are what control libido. Nothing external will correct epigenetic (everything affect it, nutrients, toxins, mood, ..), even less something highly specific like 13 cis retinoic acid, only cleaning the lymph & the interstitial fluid will permit the body to restore normal function by itself, nothing exterior will. Cannabis suppress the nervous system, which is already suppressed if you took accutane, it will only mask some symptoms nothing else.
Well if this is your counter argument for all the scientific evidence listed above.
I think the smartest manoeuvre is try a few tried and tested routes ranging from safest to least safe, so example:
1. Diet & lifestyle modification
2. Exercise
3. Fasting
4. Cannabis Oil
5. DR. Crisler's hormone plan
6. Finasteride
I'm not promoting those last two, as those really are last resort options in my opinion.
But hey, why not just combine a bunch of them. I'm currently doing following a raw vegan diet whilst consuming RSO. I'm also exercising several times per week and sleeping 10 hours a night.
Once again, we should try and not bicker and accept we all have slightly different routes. And due to that we've found out people who have recovered through different protocols! Not too bad, it gives us several options to try.
I myself posted lot of scientific evidence about cannabis. But they doesn't really explain the real mechanism of how it work, it's only supposition. It can be a slight help in proper amount but as it doens't focus on the real problem it won't help long term, those slight benefit last as long as you take it. For cancer it's possible that THC kill the corrupted cells (it doesn't cure the real cause of it tho) but the body can do this by itself, you don't need cannabis to heal from stage 4 cancer, robert morse cured lot of them without it (& lot of others people).
But if you want to loose your time and money (and risk going in jail) for a theory do as you want, i tried cannabis myself (not the right way it's true) and didn't worked. But it's certainly attractive, something external, "magical", that doesn't need you to do or change anything you already do in your life, something easy.. sadly it won't be easy if you really want to get your health back, and will take month and more certainly some years, so better start now. Only good thing with cannabis is the pleasure of growing and taking care of the plant x)
On 8/27/2014 at 8:18 AM, pathtorecovery91 said:On 8/27/2014 at 4:33 AM, MrErdem said:On 8/22/2014 at 1:42 AM, MrErdem said:My dr says I have prostatitis. He prescribed me antibiotics and alphablocker. Should I use it? There is no pain in that area but other sympthons are common with prostatitis. Pills again [Edited image out]
Please guys, give me some feedback. Do you have prostate problems (difficulty to urinate or frequent urination) as well?
I am about to get prostatitis treatment with antibiotics and I dont want to be missdiagnosed.
I have no pain during pee, but low steam, difficulty in urinate and sometimes frequent urination. Do you have the same?
Hey, I actually have the same problem. I believe it has to do with my prostate because I know prostate problems run in my family. The past few months or so I found it takes like a few seconds or more before I urinate. I don't feel the build up like I used to and the flow isn't that strong anymore. It doesn't hurt to pee or anything but I just don't feel the build up or have a strong stream. Also I don't have frequent urination, just takes a while before it comes out like I said. I was supposed to go to the urologist today but rescheduled it for next monday. I am concerned about having to go on drugs if I have an enlarged prostate because I know that the doc would prescribe me some if somethings wrong but really wouldn't want to take it. In a way though if I do have something wrong with my prostate(which I likely do due to my urination problems), maybe it is the cause of my ED, but also maybe not.
I wouldn't mind taking antibiotics but wouldn't want to take a drug for it.
I'll see what he says when I go and see what's wrong. I'll update when after next monday on what he said and what he chooses to do.
Thanks, there claims that the main problem for ED might be prostatitis or pelvic floor issues written in propeciahelp.com
Another claim is that hormonal imbalance shrunks the prostate and problems occur.
The problems with prostate cause fatigue, back bain, ED, joint and muscle pain etc.. Very similar problems right? And even there is no pain in that area, you can have inflamation/anormalities in prostate..
Another point is that pelvic floor dysfunction. This muscle can become weak and cause several sexual problems.
I realy want to focus on this, I am 34 years old and for 34 years during erection, my muscle between penis an anus it was pretty hard, now this muscle below is weak. There is sure a dysfunction and there are exercises to strenghten this muscle. Again this muscle can be effected by prostate inflamation. Please check propeciahelp forum/prostate section
On 8/27/2014 at 9:15 PM, MrErdem said:On 8/27/2014 at 8:18 AM, pathtorecovery91 said:On 8/27/2014 at 4:33 AM, MrErdem said:On 8/22/2014 at 1:42 AM, MrErdem said:My dr says I have prostatitis. He prescribed me antibiotics and alphablocker. Should I use it? There is no pain in that area but other sympthons are common with prostatitis. Pills again [Edited image out]
Please guys, give me some feedback. Do you have prostate problems (difficulty to urinate or frequent urination) as well?
I am about to get prostatitis treatment with antibiotics and I dont want to be missdiagnosed.
I have no pain during pee, but low steam, difficulty in urinate and sometimes frequent urination. Do you have the same?
Hey, I actually have the same problem. I believe it has to do with my prostate because I know prostate problems run in my family. The past few months or so I found it takes like a few seconds or more before I urinate. I don't feel the build up like I used to and the flow isn't that strong anymore. It doesn't hurt to pee or anything but I just don't feel the build up or have a strong stream. Also I don't have frequent urination, just takes a while before it comes out like I said. I was supposed to go to the urologist today but rescheduled it for next monday. I am concerned about having to go on drugs if I have an enlarged prostate because I know that the doc would prescribe me some if somethings wrong but really wouldn't want to take it. In a way though if I do have something wrong with my prostate(which I likely do due to my urination problems), maybe it is the cause of my ED, but also maybe not.
I wouldn't mind taking antibiotics but wouldn't want to take a drug for it.
I'll see what he says when I go and see what's wrong. I'll update when after next monday on what he said and what he chooses to do.
Thanks, there claims that the main problem for ED might be prostatitis or pelvic floor issues written in propeciahelp.com
Another claim is that hormonal imbalance shrunks the prostate and problems occur.
The problems with prostate cause fatigue, back bain, ED, joint and muscle pain etc.. Very similar problems right? And even there is no pain in that area, you can have inflamation/anormalities in prostate..
Another point is that pelvic floor dysfunction. This muscle can become weak and cause several sexual problems.
I realy want to focus on this, I am 34 years old and for 34 years during erection, my muscle between penis an anus it was pretty hard, now this muscle below is weak. There is sure a dysfunction and there are exercises to strenghten this muscle. Again this muscle can be effected by prostate inflamation. Please check propeciahelp forum/prostate section
Yes I do have very similar problems and thanks for the info. I'll go check out those exercises as well. That would be good if prostate problems were the cause of our ED and it could be corrected. I'm only 23 and dealing with this so it would be great if I could fix this especially if it had to do with the prostate.
Option number 6 should be avoided at all cost , Accutane sufferers really do not need more " DRUGS " in there system .
Those with prostatitis be aware that you are likely not dealing with an infection but inflammation through an internal chemical imbalance brought about my 'tane.
Although too early to offer anything concrete, my prostrate discomfort appears reduced having commenced RSO now. Granted it could be placebo, so you'll have to wait and see if it lasts.
On 8/28/2014 at 2:41 AM, Crank92 said:Those with prostatitis be aware that you are likely not dealing with an infection but inflammation through an internal chemical imbalance brought about my 'tane.
Although too early to offer anything concrete, my prostrate discomfort appears reduced having commenced RSO now. Granted it could be placebo, so you'll have to wait and see if it lasts.
Thank you for the Info.
Did you have the urgency to pee, low stream or difficulty to urinate?
I am reading some posts in propeciahelp.com. There are people who say that they worsened after antibiotics, so I dont feel it is the right thing to do now.
On the other hand : [Edited link out]