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I don't believe in the still there vitamin A theory anymore, it can be true but it's not the true problem, and even if it was there is only one way to expell it same as other toxins. Problem is accutane cause mass cell poisoning and dying, resulting in even more toxicity than before (acne = elimination). You can't regenerate cells when they are being chronically poisoned by their own waste + highly toxic diet who don't even contain anything to truely nourish the body.
If meat is highly toxic it's not because of the vitamin A.
About isotherapy like i said it's not required, it's just to speed up things, and if you want to do it well you need to do sequentially and not only for accutane.
Not Vitamin A toxicity per se, specifically 13 cis Retinic acid toxicity. The accutane destroys the gut, as the gut membranes are just like the skin...it causes ineffective removal of the drug. The body was sick already, before accutane, that's why acne was present in the first place. Ineffective detoxification from the kidneys or the biliary tract was probably responsible. The body gets backed up before the drug, the drug is then taken orally but ineffectively removed, so the body stores the drug in the fat cells because fat solubilizes fat. This causes the chronic dry skin, dry lips, and all the same side effects as when on accutane but for the longest time afterwards. Reliving these symptoms is when the accutane is mobilised, which is very dangerous.
Of course that's not always the way, some people have no traces of the drug in their body and still have problems due to accutane changing the inner landscape of the body, because it's basically pure poison, but in some cases i do believe the drug is still there. But that's just conjecture at this point, it's just my opinion and i know that it can only be taken at face value.
Apples, oranges, dates, ..
Do you recommend or have you used Adrenal Glandular's?
Latest report Accutane banned in 11 countries and counting that tells a story.
I don't believe in the still there vitamin A theory anymore, it can be true but it's not the true problem, and even if it was there is only one way to expell it same as other toxins. Problem is accutane cause mass cell poisoning and dying, resulting in even more toxicity than before (acne = elimination). You can't regenerate cells when they are being chronically poisoned by their own waste + highly toxic diet who don't even contain anything to truely nourish the body.
If meat is highly toxic it's not because of the vitamin A.
About isotherapy like i said it's not required, it's just to speed up things, and if you want to do it well you need to do sequentially and not only for accutane.
Not Vitamin A toxicity per se, specifically 13 cis Retinic acid toxicity. The accutane destroys the gut, as the gut membranes are just like the skin...it causes ineffective removal of the drug. The body was sick already, before accutane, that's why acne was present in the first place. Ineffective detoxification from the kidneys or the biliary tract was probably responsible. The body gets backed up before the drug, the drug is then taken orally but ineffectively removed, so the body stores the drug in the fat cells because fat solubilizes fat. This causes the chronic dry skin, dry lips, and all the same side effects as when on accutane but for the longest time afterwards. Reliving these symptoms is when the accutane is mobilised, which is very dangerous.
Of course that's not always the way, some people have no traces of the drug in their body and still have problems due to accutane changing the inner landscape of the body, because it's basically pure poison, but in some cases i do believe the drug is still there. But that's just conjecture at this point, it's just my opinion and i know that it can only be taken at face value.
>>>>>Apples, oranges, dates, ..
Do you recommend or have you used Adrenal Glandular's?
Yep that's exactly what i'm saying, but i don't believe the drug still there in sufficient amount to still cause damage after years, it's just chronic toxicity and cells that can't be repaired in an acidic/toxic medium.
Mucosa is part of the lymphatic system too, so accutane destroy the main immune system & protection from toxins (from the gut too like you said), and the worst part, block their elimination.
Yes i tried the adrenal glandular, very effective. As i poisoned myself with cannabis/THC too (strong neurotoxin), i needed this to help my adrenals.
in france generic still allowed. a friend of mine told me few days ago that a dermatologist tried to sell him accutane for 4-5 pimples. they want to dumb down this generation (vaccine not enough apparently), they know what's coming for them, those fuckin banksters who own everything even the medical world.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsD7l9xENRQ
Who elso on here experienced hair loss from acutane? Here is an image of my hair now solely from accutane hair loss(hair loss doesn't run in my family) and it has been over a year since last taking it. How bad is your hair loss compared to mines? I continue to loose more hair everyday. I'm at a lost of hope of what to do about it. I realized I can't take biotin because it causes me to break out bad. I started using lllt and will update if I notice any improvements, but I just don't know what to do anymore. It is really affecting me since I'm not supposed to be experiencing hair loss in the first place due to genetics. Whoever else is experiencing hair loss from accutane, please let me know how bad it is compared to mine.
My hair loss is much worse you will get used to it , when I first took the drug I lost 50 percent of my hair after a month and a half of ingesting the POISON and it never grew back so I cut it ultra short kind of like the movie actor Jason Statham to give you an idea . It is after all CHEMOTHEARAPY what would one expect Hair loss is a side effect as with most CANCER treatments allopathic medicine offers .... wait I don't think any of us had cancer just pimples most of us mild to boot .
My hair loss is much worse you will get used to it , when I first took the drug I lost 50 percent of my hair after a month and a half of ingesting the POISON and it never grew back so I cut it ultra short kind of like the movie actor Jason Statham to give you an idea . It is after all CHEMOTHEARAPY what would one expect Hair loss is a side effect as with most CANCER treatments allopathic medicine offers .... wait I don't think any of us had cancer just pimples most of us mild to boot .
Thanks for sharing your input. Yea it's just I do not look right with a lack of hair and it's really depressing for me. And you are right, it is chemotherapy and it is very sad it is used for treating pimples instead of cancer like it should be.
Don't waste time/money on any hair loss products man, just cut it short and get used to it. My hairloss from accutane is similar to yours.
Don't waste time/money on any hair loss products man, just cut it short and get used to it. My hairloss from accutane is similar to yours.
Yea I guess I'll just have to accept it. I just look like a freak since my dad and the guys in my family all have hair. I have to explain to everyone it is because I took accutane.
My derm says that accutane helps with hair loss.Of course she only prescribes a low dosage treatments (10 mg 2 times per week or 10mg every other day) so maybe in larger doses it causes more harm to them.
How do you know its the Androgenic alopecia and not the TE?
I feel that if it is TE that it wouldn't be this bad and after over a year of last taking it. Of course, with accutane's mechanism not being fully understood, who knows what accutane actually did to my hair.
I guess You;re right.
But You know,there are some things that You could use,to stop or improve your hair.
But first you should really check if its androgenic one.If so - minoxidil,finasteryd,topical spiro cream,copper peptides aka folligen,revivogen,ketokonazol,topical caffeine,and few other things could really help with your condition.In my opinion,You could start a fight against hairloss and even if You won;t win ,you could at least slow it down.
Thanks lukii, I started using castor oil mixed with olive oil on my hair and wash it with organic shampoo. Also like I mentioned, I started low level laser therapy a week ago. I will keep trying this for at least the next 3 to 4 months to see if it helps any.
Who elso on here experienced hair loss from acutane? Here is an image of my hair now solely from accutane hair loss(hair loss doesn't run in my family) and it has been over a year since last taking it. How bad is your hair loss compared to mines? I continue to loose more hair everyday. I'm at a lost of hope of what to do about it. I realized I can't take biotin because it causes me to break out bad. I started using lllt and will update if I notice any improvements, but I just don't know what to do anymore. It is really affecting me since I'm not supposed to be experiencing hair loss in the first place due to genetics. Whoever else is experiencing hair loss from accutane, please let me know how bad it is compared to mine.
I had a visible bald spot on my crown as well, it filled back on it's own after about 6 months. Thankfully, Male Pattern Baldness doesn't run in my family.
My derm says that accutane helps with hair loss.Of course she only prescribes a low dosage treatments (10 mg 2 times per week or 10mg every other day) so maybe in larger doses it causes more harm to them.
How do you know its the Androgenic alopecia and not the TE?
Hairloss is reported side effect from Accutane.
Don't waste time/money on any hair loss products man, just cut it short and get used to it. My hairloss from accutane is similar to yours.
It is normal for men to lose their hair; it's not like when a woman loses her hair - from a societal standpoint it's deemed completely unacceptable and intolerable. If you are decent looking man with a head for full of hair, you are still going to be a decent looking man without hair. If you are a super successful bald man you can still get on the cover of GQ; and, women will be unperturbed by the fact that you are a little sparse up top. The real tragedy with propecia victims is that people have had their health decimated over hair. In the case of severe cystic acne, people are dealing with the potential for disfiguring acne scars; and there are poor souls out there who have lost their colons in the pursuit.
accutane ruins peoples lives over mild acne, is that any less of tragedy ?
I'm a tad non-plussed at the lack of response to OttoVisuals positive experience in regards to his RSO treatment. (Thanks btw Otto for posting, keep us updated).
Although I won't count him as cured just yet, we'll see if these positive effects hold out for another few months at least. But that makes it to a growing list of people who have found cannabis oil/vaping/ingesting beneficial above and beyond the norm.
I have commenced my RSO treatment as of 45 minutes ago. I will keep you updated.
Bleh, another Accutane victim here.
Very cool to finally find an Accutane thread with some activity, not many of them out there. Sometimes I have felt so empty/alone because obviously no one who doesn't know what Accutane can cause (even Doctors), can understand my problems. And I understand that. But it is pretty damn annoying when you keep hearing things like "it can't be that bad", then I just wanna punch them in their face. Must have been so brutal for people before Internet existed when you couldn't communicate like this, with people from all around the world that's going through the same thing.
Haven't gone through the thread yet but will start doing that after my post, so feel free to correct me if anything I'm about to write, sounds wrong.
Okey, so I started with Accutane 2011 somewhere around september and was on it for 8-9 months. 40mg first month, then the rest was on 60mg. Ridiculous dose if you ask me. At that time I was so desperate and depressed I would do anything to get rid of my acne. I wish I had been put on a much lower dose and maximum 6 months, and if I had gotten the same side effects that I have now, then at least I would have felt that it was more due to unluck and would have been easier to accept it. Now... it feels like maybe maybe it could have been prevented. After about half of the cure I was in so much pain, my eyes was so brutally red and sooo dry and I also couldn't walk for more than 30m due to joint pain. I really told my dermatologist that maybe I should quit (and I'm really not a quitter, and at that time, ESPECIALLY not to acne), but he kept telling me that, for the acne to never be able to come back, you have to go "aggressive". Even my liver test were "negative" (or close to? can't remember) and even then, "go 40mg for a few days and we will do another bloodtest". And then I guess it was more close to normal and then I could gladly keep taking the 60mg poision! I really blame myself that I didn't quit here but I was so weak at the time.
I didn't write down my cure or so somewhere, but I'm sure my face and back was pretty much all clear after like 6 months, not a single boil/abcess, just some pores (think it's the right word?) on both cheeks, but according to the dermatologist, those were the ones who could cause another outbreak and needed to be treated aggressively. I listened like a dog, but after fighting with the side effects for so many months I just couldn't take it anymore, so I quitted there somewhere after 8-9 months. If I remember correctly he wanted me to stay on it for 11 months. And when I quitted I still had those pores, today, ironically, I don't. I think it was a big mistake by him to not take into consideration that the medicine keeps working for months after your last dose. Does anyone know if the Doctors actually gets a lot of money the more medicine that they prescribe? I will actually try to call him tomorrow and say that I wish he had warned me more about the potenial permanent side effects. He always gave the impression that the side effects he mentioned (dryness and some pain in lower back), would go away after the cure. I should have done way more research before I took it, but still think it's pretty damn bad that I wasn't enough informed.
Well, now to the side effects I guess. After the Accutane cure my eyes was so dry and inflamed. I tried lots of different eye drops but it only got worse, they got even more dry and really red. I took azithromycin for two weeks (worked beautifully, but obviously not a longterm solution unfortunately, but still maybe important that I took that cure?) Was also on Oracea for a while, it did help some the first few days but then not so much... After that I felt like the best thing to do was to do nothing and pray that it would go away. Late 2013 I finally started to wake up without my eyes being dry. That felt so massive to me. The problems are not gone though. I suspect that I have Rosacea and Ocular Rosacea (always gets sunburn in the face in the form of a butterflyer, and all this induced by Accutane ofcourse), and my eyes can still get really dry and kinda red if something (sun for example) triggers them. It does suck, but at least I feel I'm getting some sort of a chance to keep them in good shape even though it's pretty damn tough because some things are pretty damn hard to avoid, like for example the pollution in the city. This is something that have always made me so mad. I feel like I always gets the problem that I can do nothing about, like with the acne... I tried everything but you just feel so helpless because it's not in your hands... I have always thought to myself "why can I never get those problems that I, MYSELF, can do something about, like losing weight?!?!?!"
Realizing that this will be a long post, but oh well.... I can also say that I took sea buckthorn for a while, maybe that helped my eyes to get a bit better. Now to the joint pain, horrible side effect since I love to sport so much. If there is anyone who has ANYTHING that has helped You, PLEASE share! Or if anyone has actually gotten better over the years? I don't think that's possible though. 
I have seriously considered to start with steroids in hope that it could fix my problems, and I'm really against that otherwise. But since steroids can give you acne, and we took something to get rid of acne, wouldn't it make some sense if some steroids actually could build up the production of hyaluronic acid, permanent? From another thread that I will later link below. "Accutane can switch off the production of hyaluronic acid, which is a water retention molecule present in all connective tissue throughout the body, in particular the joints and articular cartilage."
Need to sleep now, stay positive all, and remember that there will always be people that have it worse.
look into antihistimines.
you got your benadryl and newer ones like allegra and the nose spray astalin. these are h1 blockers. in my experience the only non sedating one seems to be allegra. also h2 blockers might be of some benefit. zantac i believe might be a little safer then pepcid. funny thing both the h1 and h2 blockers seem to have a very positive effect for me with ED. even though the opposite is supposed to be true of these drugs. allegra has made my eyes much less sensitive to light and made my vision sharper with less dryness. taken away alot of flaky skin and over all made my skin look better and less prone to redness. take at least 1 24hr allegra a day for a couple weeks and see how you do. maybe accutane all along has caused some sort of allergic reaction, flare up or messed up histamine receptors. just a new angle for you guys. btw been dealing with this shit like many of you now for half my life post accutane. and im determined to get it back. peace.
and also even my hair is looking better taking allegra. no new growth yet but it feels healthier. and ive only been taking allegra for less then a week.
As I have said many times before BAXYL a liquid form of hyaluronic acid made from vegetables , it works 1 drop of the stuff stores 1000 drops + in your body that Accutane depletes also great for joint pain obviously due to this . I haven't used it in a while but if symptoms get worse I will get more.
For dry eyes it's great just a tiny bit maybe half a teaspoon in the morning .
look into antihistimines.
you got your benadryl and newer ones like allegra and the nose spray astalin. these are h1 blockers. in my experience the only non sedating one seems to be allegra. also h2 blockers might be of some benefit. zantac i believe might be a little safer then pepcid. funny thing both the h1 and h2 blockers seem to have a very positive effect for me with ED. even though the opposite is supposed to be true of these drugs. allegra has made my eyes much less sensitive to light and made my vision sharper with less dryness. taken away alot of flaky skin and over all made my skin look better and less prone to redness. take at least 1 24hr allegra a day for a couple weeks and see how you do. maybe accutane all along has caused some sort of allergic reaction, flare up or messed up histamine receptors. just a new angle for you guys. btw been dealing with this shit like many of you now for half my life post accutane. and im determined to get it back. peace.
and also even my hair is looking better taking allegra. no new growth yet but it feels healthier. and ive only been taking allegra for less then a week.
I will def look into allegra! Your problems sounds a lot like mine. I didn't mention all my side effects, just the major ones, but I'm now Huge sensitive to light as well. Gotta sleep with two sleep maskes... I got really bad and blurry vision so maybe it could help. Was about to get glasses but may as well try this first.
I have been taking Lyrica (pregabalin) for the joint pain but I don't know how much it has actually helped.. I'm on a very low dose though. Think I'm gonna quit it soon. I'm also considering to start with central stimulants, low doses, and would get it prescribed from the doctor. The reason is because I have a really hard time focusing on things and I never have any energy, even though I'm active all the time. CS is known to make the muscles tense though, so would it be criminal to start with it? I don't think the joint pain can get really worse though, so may as well take it.