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Hi everyone hope your all doing well. I'd like to ask anonyy what is this isotherapy you talk about? is it extremely small exposure to the same toxin (ie accutane) to cause the immune system to attack it and thus attack the accutane stored in the cells? or is it something else, i'm not sure what you mean.
The juice fast went well, but i had to move to a place without internet for a long time so i was unable to track this forum. I've stumbled upon fermented food as a means to help me, namely water kefir, beet kvass and many failed attempts at making sauerkraut in my harsch pot (if someone can help me get this right i'd be most obliged). But the most powerful has been kombucha, don't know whether thats d glucarate or the beta glucuronidase aspect of the beverage.
Noticed that meat of any kind is a no no now, don't want to pollute the body any further. I feel like a toxic waste dump, i need to detox, how to get this stuff out of the body? it's a riddle i can't crack.
It's toxicity 100%, it's not glandular although the glandular and energetic systems are all affected by the toxicity or hypervitaminosis A style effects that accutane causes.
Hi,
The body can't do everything at once, there is priorities. When you start to detox the body get rid of toxins + repair itself from the lastest to the oldest. Isotherapy is a way to force the body to react & use his energy for accutane damage. It isn't required at all, it's just to speed up things. There is no accutane molecule in it, only the imprint.
It's all about toxicity but the body cannot detox & function properly without endocrine glands functioning adequately (especially adrenals), and the nervous system ofc.
When you stop meat you stop eating neurotransmitters (epinephrine) and as your body reduced his natural production from your old habit you start to feel weak nervously. Problem is, this will prevent a proper detox, but eating meat does the same so.. Only solution in those case when the nervous system is too weak is to take an adrenal glandular (work well for libido too apparently). Can add a parathyroid glandular for the calcium utilisation (required for nerve impulse) + a calcium formula (vegetable one). There is a supplement (Velvet Deer Antler) who contain calcium who apparently is a very powerful cellular proliferator, very strong to regenerate the nervous system. Robert Morse sell a supplement who contain vegetal calcium + this deer antler.
To detox it's "simple", we need to stop eating non-physiological food, the best is to eat 100% raw only fruits & vegetable but for some it will cause a too strong detox. Eating some cooked things like baked sweet potato, quinoa & steamed vegetables is ok to slow things down. There is some herbal formulas too.
Things i forgot to mention is that it's a bad idea to do liver flushes when we stop eating meat, it's very powerful and require a strong nervous system, if someone stop meat completely and was already weak it's a bad idea.
You knew about Robert Morse since 2012 i believe chico, i believe you know some of that : P
Body recovers itself, this is for sure.
I have been diagnosed as diabetic after accutane(5months ago). Last 2 months blood results are fine now. I did not change my diet. I still drink beer, eat everything..
Tryglyceride was high, now it is ok.
Colestrole got better.
My hair was dead and thin, it is almost pre-accutane now.
I had low B12 and low folic acid, both of them are ok now.. (Had 5 b12 injection)
I didnt change my life, diet, nothing..
Hi,
The body can't do everything at once, there is priorities. When you start to detox the body get rid of toxins + repair itself from the lastest to the oldest. Isotherapy is a way to force the body to react & use his energy for accutane damage. It isn't required at all, it's just to speed up things. There is no accutane molecule in it, only the imprint.
It's all about toxicity but the body cannot detox & function properly without endocrine glands functioning adequately (especially adrenals), and the nervous system ofc.
When you stop meat you stop eating neurotransmitters (epinephrine) and as your body reduced his natural production from your old habit you start to feel weak nervously. Problem is, this will prevent a proper detox, but eating meat does the same so.. Only solution in those case when the nervous system is too weak is to take an adrenal glandular (work well for libido too apparently). Can add a parathyroid glandular for the calcium utilisation (required for nerve impulse) + a calcium formula (vegetable one). There is a supplement (Velvet Deer Antler) who contain calcium who apparently is a very powerful cellular proliferator, very strong to regenerate the nervous system. Robert Morse sell a supplement who contain vegetal calcium + this deer antler.
To detox it's "simple", we need to stop eating non-physiological food, the best is to eat 100% raw only fruits & vegetable but for some it will cause a too strong detox. Eating some cooked things like baked sweet potato, quinoa & steamed vegetables is ok to slow things down. There is some herbal formulas too.
Things i forgot to mention is that it's a bad idea to do liver flushes when we stop eating meat, it's very powerful and require a strong nervous system, if someone stop meat completely and was already weak it's a bad idea.
You knew about Robert Morse since 2012 i believe chico, i believe you know some of that : P
Yes i'm aware of Robert Morse, Life Regenerator and the raw food community. I'm going to transition back to a vegan diet, basically fruit, vegetables, soaked nuts / seeds, soaked quinoa, green juices and kombucha. I was thinking about buying beans in their dry state and soaking them overnight to consume with the quinoa, is that okay? are there any problems with beans and legumes once soaked?
There was a post you made talking about psyllium husk, calcium d glucarate and kombucha specifically helping gut transit and accutane removal, would you advise those things? i'm really interested in the isotherapy you've talked about and everything you've said makes perfect sense to me, how would one go about doing it, can you do it yourself? do you need to look for a specific isotherapy practitioner, whats the process?
Also in relation to adrenal and parathyroid glandulars, i will look into that, thank you. What are the top 5 things that have worked best in your experience Anonyy to mitigate and potentially reverse the long term toxicity of accutane?
Even soaked beans are bad sadly.
Yea about psyllium glucarate kombucha i've done it after some research, it worked but i can't say if it's because of all of that, maybe the isotherapy by its own is enough idk..
For the isotherapy it's easy, you just buy the dose and take then every 2 days if i remember correctly.
Can't say a top5 but the most effective is any detox method, clark kidney cleanse was very effective, liver flush too. I took many herbal detox i don't remember the name. Except from that you just assist your body and stop poison him with non-physiologic food and it will cleanse & repair by itself. It takes time, minimum 6month to 1 year to see result, and that's only if you do no "mistake" by eating toxic food and properly support eliminative organ function.
Frugivorous diet contain a lot of potassium, if you have weak adrenals you'll need some sodium. Best form is quinton plasma (sea water) but i believe himalayan or grey unrefined salt is fine in proper amount.
There is the B12 subject too, i still don't know what to think about it but i take some sublingual methylcobalamin once every 2 weeks/month in case of the theory where it's not a metabolism byproduct but a real vitamin synthetized by the intestine but that for us are damaged by accutane & antibiotics so it require supplement (even for those who eat meat).
About the glandular i truely believe the adrenal one is a necessity for most of us.
Just wanted to make a quick update on my Rso
Some changes.
I restarted my job which requires light exercise and instead of exercise breaking my body down it now adds to my muscle mass.
The last couple years I couldnt make any more than 2-3 pullups. It had no use when I did it everyday or twice a day, my body just couldnt grow any muscle or strentgh.
Im doing ten atm with ease.
I completely got my muscle mass back.
My libido is completely back. It goes erect without having a concious thought about sex, when I see a sexy woman it goes erect even when I dont think she is my type.
Im currently off Rso. I was unable to take it for a week but my libido is still the same. Im even confident enough to say I dont need it anymore because my body is switched on again and it is a matter of time before my body completely heals itself.
This is really good to hear Otto! How much rso have you taken then to get to this stage? How much were you taking per day, and for how long? I remember it was some time ago you started, maybe 3 months?
Even soaked beans are bad sadly.
Yea about psyllium glucarate kombucha i've done it after some research, it worked but i can't say if it's because of all of that, maybe the isotherapy by its own is enough idk..
For the isotherapy it's easy, you just buy the dose and take then every 2 days if i remember correctly.
Can't say a top5 but the most effective is any detox method, clark kidney cleanse was very effective, liver flush too. I took many herbal detox i don't remember the name. Except from that you just assist your body and stop poison him with non-physiologic food and it will cleanse & repair by itself. It takes time, minimum 6month to 1 year to see result, and that's only if you do no "mistake" by eating toxic food and properly support eliminative organ function.
Frugivorous diet contain a lot of potassium, if you have weak adrenals you'll need some sodium. Best form is quinton plasma (sea water) but i believe himalayan or grey unrefined salt is fine in proper amount.
There is the B12 subject too, i still don't know what to think about it but i take some sublingual methylcobalamin once every 2 weeks/month in case of the theory where it's not a metabolism byproduct but a real vitamin synthetized by the intestine but that for us are damaged by accutane & antibiotics so it require supplement (even for those who eat meat).
About the glandular i truely believe the adrenal one is a necessity for most of us.
Thanks again for the reply Anonyy, i've looked up CEASE therapy and it's basically the same thing. So i'd take say a 5mg capsule of accutane and they'd dilute and dilute it to less and less potency, and then what? they'd give me oral capsules to consume or would it be an injection? Or do they use your own body secretions to derive the treatment (blood, scabs etc) If so what if the accutane is stored in the fat and is not present in the samples?
Sorry for the long windedness of my post, i'm just trying to understand this process further.
It's like any other homeopathy granules, but with accutane instead.
What i did was that: [Edited link out]
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I don't agree with their theories, for me it's more like focalising the energy of the body into doing a specific healing & cleanse for a specific molecule. Anyway it worked so i don't really care to be honest x)
protocol i gived here was the one Elmiger gived me by email.
There have been some very colorful treatments recommended throughout the 254 pages of this thread, but taking more Accutane to cure Accutane-induced health problems is as dumb as fuck, yet it is being discussed again.
Put out a house fire with gasoline anyone?
If you are thinking of going this route and want to be cured even faster, try 120mg Accutane daily.
It might cause sterility at that high of a dose.
Don't think twice, your Darwin Award awaits you.
Don't bother wearing down your finger tips typing-out an insulting reply to this post either.
I won't be reading it along with the other 75% repetitive gibberish coming from this thread.
No, wait! Anonny! Forget that last paragraph. Please keep quoting this entire post on a regular basis and arguing your hackneyed alternative view of physiology against it. These are my honest feelings about the entire shameful journey of this thread and the post-Accutane community in general.
If some of you fellow posters found something you think works, that's great. And I mean that with all sincerity. No sarcasm intended.
If you are a long-time sufferer who keeps getting defeated, don't try to change your strategy or anything. Keep doing what doesn't work and it might work eventually.
Or give up and make the best of what you still have left.
I'll still be checking PMs regularly if any of my good friends from here have something to discuss.
There have been some very colorful treatments recommended throughout the 254 pages of this thread, but taking more Accutane to cure Accutane-induced health problems is as dumb as fuck, yet it is being discussed again.
Of course it's dumb to take the accutane molecule again.
But if you want to talk about dumb thing, you should focus on those dumb as fuck epigenetic theories & pro-symptomatic brain-masturbating ideologies.
There have been some very colorful treatments recommended throughout the 254 pages of this thread, but taking more Accutane to cure Accutane-induced health problems is as dumb as fuck, yet it is being discussed again.
Put out a house fire with gasoline anyone?
If you are thinking of going this route and want to be cured even faster, try 120mg Accutane daily.
It might cause sterility at that high of a dose.
Don't think twice, your Darwin Award awaits you.
Don't bother wearing down your finger tips typing-out an insulting reply to this post either.
I won't be reading it along with the other 75% repetitive gibberish coming from this thread.
No, wait! Anonny! Forget that last paragraph. Please keep quoting this entire post on a regular basis and arguing your hackneyed alternative view of physiology against it. These are my honest feelings about the entire shameful journey of this thread and the post-Accutane community in general.
If some of you fellow posters found something you think works, that's great. And I mean that with all sincerity. No sarcasm intended.
If you are a long-time sufferer who keeps getting defeated, don't try to change your strategy or anything. Keep doing what doesn't work and it might work eventually.
Or give up and make the best of what you still have left.
I'll still be checking PMs regularly if any of my good friends from here have something to discuss.
I haven't tried it, nor do i recommend it because i don't understand what it is. What it seems to be is a genetic imprint of the offending substance in question, given to the person to create an immune system reaction, so the body can decode it, or deal with it. It sounds bizarre but i was just interested in the philosophy of it thats all, a bit like a vaccination in a way. Although when you put it like that, taking accutane to stop the effects of accutane, yes your right it's very dumb.
Anonyy is right about the vegan diet, Accutane poisoning is essentially vitamin A toxicity in the tissues, to stop the toxicity continuing or getting worse it's best to remove all sources of retinol, which is animal source vitamin A. Even innocous things like shrimp, scallops, turkey breast, they all contain retinol and it exasperates the effects of accutane toxicity, because it builds in the body, especially a body thats backed up and unable to detoxify due to accutane damaging the gi tract, affecting liver function and causing damage to the ability to detoxify through the skin. The body becomes a toxic waste dump, so it's best not to add gasoline to a burning fire as you yourself put it.
I don't believe in the still there vitamin A theory anymore, it can be true but it's not the true problem, and even if it was there is only one way to expell it same as other toxins. Problem is accutane cause mass cell poisoning and dying, resulting in even more toxicity than before (acne = elimination). You can't regenerate cells when they are being chronically poisoned by their own waste + highly toxic diet who don't even contain anything to truely nourish the body.
If meat is highly toxic it's not because of the vitamin A.
About isotherapy like i said it's not required, it's just to speed up things, and if you want to do it well you need to do sequentially and not only for accutane.
Boudou P1, Chivot M, Vexiau P, Soliman H, Villette JM, Julien R, Belanger A, Fiet J.
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Abstract
To investigate the effect of 13-cis-retinoic acid (13-cis-RA) treatment on androgen metabolism in men with severe nodulocystic acne, eight men with severe acne received an oral daily dose of 0.7 mg/kg 13-cis-RA over 3 months. Exploration of androgen metabolism in serum samples, 24-h urine collections, and skin biopsies obtained before and at the end of the treatment revealed no significant alterations in serum levels of either adrenal or gonadal androgens. However, the treatment did induce significant decreases in serum levels of the 5 alpha-reduced androgens: 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone (P < 0.02), androsterone glucosiduronate (P < 0.04), and 5 alpha-androstan-3 alpha, 17 beta-diol glucosiduronate (P < 0.004). Unlike serum, the urinary 5 alpha-reduced metabolites 5 alpha-androstan-3 alpha, 17 beta-diol and androsterone did not vary significantly despite a decrease in the excretion of the latter. Moreover, a marginally significant increase in urinary excretion of etiocholanolone, very similar to the decrease in androsterone excretion, was observed. The ratio of androsterone to etiocholanolone decreased significantly (P < 0.004) after 13-cis-RA therapy and suggested a metabolic deviation from the androgen 5 alpha- to 5 beta-reduction pathway in the liver. The most pronounced effect was observed in skin biopsies, which lost 80% of their ability to form 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone (P < 0.001). It is concluded that 13-cis-RA therapy in men with severe nodulocystic acne did not alter gonadal or adrenal functions, but it did induce 1) a highly significant decrease in 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone formation by skin biopsies; 2) significant decreases in serum 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone, androsterone glucosiduronate, and 5 alpha-androstan-3 alpha, 17 beta-diol glucosiduronate; and, finally, 3) deviation of the liver androgen 5 alpha- to 5 beta-reduction pathway. The effect of 13-cis-RA treatment on severe acne is consistent with the dramatic decrease in androgen 5 alpha-reduction observed mainly in the skin.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8175961
Back already.
No, I haven't read any of the latest posts.
You may want to consider printing this report and taking it to your doctor, along with the information Crank92 collated if you are seeking treatment or recognition of erectile dysfunction after taking Accutane:
One hundred and twenty cases of enduring sexual dysfunction following treatment (2014 full-text)
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It is a legitimate journal-published paper, and also viewable on Pubmed.
Accutane /isotretinoin is not the focal point of the article, but several case reports are mentioned.
Apologies for the double post, but not everyone reads both the "erectile dysfunction after Accutane" threadand the "repairing long-term damage" thread.
Evidence for decreased androgen 5 alpha-reduction in skin and liver of men with severe acne after 13-cis-retinoic acid treatment.Boudou P1, Chivot M, Vexiau P, Soliman H, Villette JM, Julien R, Belanger A, Fiet J.
Author information
Abstract
To investigate the effect of 13-cis-retinoic acid (13-cis-RA) treatment on androgen metabolism in men with severe nodulocystic acne, eight men with severe acne received an oral daily dose of 0.7 mg/kg 13-cis-RA over 3 months. Exploration of androgen metabolism in serum samples, 24-h urine collections, and skin biopsies obtained before and at the end of the treatment revealed no significant alterations in serum levels of either adrenal or gonadal androgens. However, the treatment did induce significant decreases in serum levels of the 5 alpha-reduced androgens: 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone (P < 0.02), androsterone glucosiduronate (P < 0.04), and 5 alpha-androstan-3 alpha, 17 beta-diol glucosiduronate (P < 0.004). Unlike serum, the urinary 5 alpha-reduced metabolites 5 alpha-androstan-3 alpha, 17 beta-diol and androsterone did not vary significantly despite a decrease in the excretion of the latter. Moreover, a marginally significant increase in urinary excretion of etiocholanolone, very similar to the decrease in androsterone excretion, was observed. The ratio of androsterone to etiocholanolone decreased significantly (P < 0.004) after 13-cis-RA therapy and suggested a metabolic deviation from the androgen 5 alpha- to 5 beta-reduction pathway in the liver. The most pronounced effect was observed in skin biopsies, which lost 80% of their ability to form 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone (P < 0.001). It is concluded that 13-cis-RA therapy in men with severe nodulocystic acne did not alter gonadal or adrenal functions, but it did induce 1) a highly significant decrease in 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone formation by skin biopsies; 2) significant decreases in serum 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone, androsterone glucosiduronate, and 5 alpha-androstan-3 alpha, 17 beta-diol glucosiduronate; and, finally, 3) deviation of the liver androgen 5 alpha- to 5 beta-reduction pathway. The effect of 13-cis-RA treatment on severe acne is consistent with the dramatic decrease in androgen 5 alpha-reduction observed mainly in the skin.
I checked several studies, I am suprised that androgen has so many effects in body. Tinnitus, Eye floaters, Dry skin etc.. is all related with androgen deficiency.
I don't understand that I allegedly got hairloss and increased bodyhair as side effect from Accutane. Both are signs of high DHT, but my DHT-levels are on the minimum. My skin has been fragile ever since I take Accutane, so maybe my skin is more prone to DHT.
I wander what would happen if I could raise my DHT somehow.
It has to do with suppressing AR transcriptional activity. You could try covert antiandrogens (naltrexone) as some here have attempted, while openly spruiking the purported benefits, but that wouldn't be very empathetic behavior. Some people have very warped ideas about empathy.
*NIN
Just wanted to make a quick update on my Rso
Some changes.
I restarted my job which requires light exercise and instead of exercise breaking my body down it now adds to my muscle mass.
The last couple years I couldnt make any more than 2-3 pullups. It had no use when I did it everyday or twice a day, my body just couldnt grow any muscle or strentgh.
Im doing ten atm with ease.
I completely got my muscle mass back.
My libido is completely back. It goes erect without having a concious thought about sex, when I see a sexy woman it goes erect even when I dont think she is my type.
Im currently off Rso. I was unable to take it for a week but my libido is still the same. Im even confident enough to say I dont need it anymore because my body is switched on again and it is a matter of time before my body completely heals itself.
This is really good to hear Otto! How much rso have you taken then to get to this stage? How much were you taking per day, and for how long? I remember it was some time ago you started, maybe 3 months?
Yeah something about 3 months now.
I have taken 10 grams in 2.5 months and I could feel the RSO going through my body and going to points where it needed to be. with the bigger doses my muscles would shake heavily sometimes and I fell asleep shortly after that. I will continue maybe in the near future but I feel I dont need it anymore. I will update every month to see where it goes.
All the best,
Just wanted to make a quick update on my Rso
Some changes.
I restarted my job which requires light exercise and instead of exercise breaking my body down it now adds to my muscle mass.
The last couple years I couldnt make any more than 2-3 pullups. It had no use when I did it everyday or twice a day, my body just couldnt grow any muscle or strentgh.
Im doing ten atm with ease.
I completely got my muscle mass back.
My libido is completely back. It goes erect without having a concious thought about sex, when I see a sexy woman it goes erect even when I dont think she is my type.
Im currently off Rso. I was unable to take it for a week but my libido is still the same. Im even confident enough to say I dont need it anymore because my body is switched on again and it is a matter of time before my body completely heals itself.
This is really good to hear Otto! How much rso have you taken then to get to this stage? How much were you taking per day, and for how long? I remember it was some time ago you started, maybe 3 months?
Yeah something about 3 months now.
I have taken 10 grams in 2.5 months and I could feel the RSO going through my body and going to points where it needed to be. with the bigger doses my muscles would shake heavily sometimes and I fell asleep shortly after that. I will continue maybe in the near future but I feel I dont need it anymore. I will update every month to see where it goes.
All the best,
Just wanted to make a quick update on my Rso
Some changes.
I restarted my job which requires light exercise and instead of exercise breaking my body down it now adds to my muscle mass.
The last couple years I couldnt make any more than 2-3 pullups. It had no use when I did it everyday or twice a day, my body just couldnt grow any muscle or strentgh.
Im doing ten atm with ease.
I completely got my muscle mass back.
My libido is completely back. It goes erect without having a concious thought about sex, when I see a sexy woman it goes erect even when I dont think she is my type.
Im currently off Rso. I was unable to take it for a week but my libido is still the same. Im even confident enough to say I dont need it anymore because my body is switched on again and it is a matter of time before my body completely heals itself.
This is really good to hear Otto! How much rso have you taken then to get to this stage? How much were you taking per day, and for how long? I remember it was some time ago you started, maybe 3 months?
Yeah something about 3 months now.
I have taken 10 grams in 2.5 months and I could feel the RSO going through my body and going to points where it needed to be. with the bigger doses my muscles would shake heavily sometimes and I fell asleep shortly after that. I will continue maybe in the near future but I feel I dont need it anymore. I will update every month to see where it goes.
All the best,
Thanks! So to injest the oil, did you just place some under your tongue? Did it make you feel very stoned?
Alongside taking the oil have you taken any other suppliments, and have you been following a paleo/vegan type diet, or just eating normally?
Vitamin D works symbiotically with vitamin A, you always see foods in nature that have abundant retinol also contain high levels of vitamin D, liver, dairy, eggs, fish etc all contain enough vitamin D to counterbalance the vitamin A.
The crux of the problem is that a form of vitamin A, retinoic acid, weakly activates the vitamin D response element on the gene and perhaps blocks vitamin D's more robust activation. In fact, the authors of a 1993 study state "there is a profound inhibition of vitamin D-activated...gene expression by retinoic acid."
The key is having the proper ratio of vitamin D to vitamin A in your body. To obtain this proper D/A ratio, you must make a choice. (1) Either obtain the D/A ratio Nature intended-that is, the ratio the human genome evolved on - or (2) assume one knows better and intervene in a closed system, bypass the controls in the intestine, and inject active A directly into your blood by taking vitamin A or cod liver oil. Vitamin A production is tightly controlled in the body, the source (substrate) being carotenoids from vegetables in your intestine. The body uses these carotenoid substrates to make exactly the right amount of retinol for your body. That is, it is a closed, tightly regulated, system, one designed to perfection by Nature. When you take vitamin A as retinol, such as in cod liver oil, you intervene in this closed system and bypass the controls. Proceed at your peril.
What the study reported is a powerful inhibition of vitamin D gene expression in people with high amounts of retinoic acid in their bodys. Also the point on carotenes is right, you cant overdose on carotene because the body makes just the right amount of retinol from the carotene regardless of the amount you take. It's a system the body has under lockdown, when you intake very high amounts of retinol or in accutanes case a synthetic retinoic acid, it disrupts the system entirely and you develop hypervitaminosis A but not in the normal sense of the word, because accutane is not retinol, it's retinoic acid.
So it has different effects although the hair loss, inability to gain weight, eye sensitivity, joint / bone problems kind of the same.
In my experience i can eat carotene fine, unless it's stupidly high amounts of carotene like carrots, acai etc. I don't think my body is actually using the carotene to create retinol, because it already has a huge abundence of retinoic acid in the form of 13 cis retinoic acid (accutane) in my cells (the cause of all the side effects) When i eat retinol in the form of dairy or eggs, our bodies have no choice but to use the new retinol so it displaces the accutane. The displacement of the accutane is what takes us out and compounds all the side effects making us feel worse.
Vitamin D mitigates some of the side effects because it acts as a co factor and protects from the symptoms of hypervitaminosis A.
Vitamin A competes with vitamin D directly at the receptor site. When vitamin A levels are too high, the two retinoic acid molecules bind to each other instead of one vitamin A molecule binding with one vitamin D. When the two vitamin A molecules bind with each other, as occurs with high doses of vitamin A, the two vitamin A molecules then bind to the Vitamin D receptor and weakly stimulate the receptor, and may act as a weak agonist. But, weak agonists block the function of receptors, preventing the vitamin D from working.
Basically retinoic acid in high amounts will bind to itself and enter into the vitamin D receptor and stop vitamin D from being able to be absorbed. It also binds to the thyroid receptor and any other fat soluble hormone receptor. Just like other fat soluble toxins, they destroy the thyroid and the glands, mess up hormone function, and mess up fat soluble vitamin absorbtion and utilisation.
- Isotretinoin, or 13-cis-Retinoic Acid (Accutane in the USA), is a retinoid used in severe acne and rosacea as well as in cancer chemotherapy. It may have the same effects on the vitamin D receptor as other retinols. It certainly interferes with vitamin D metabolism.
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the forum and have been an accutane sufferer for many years. I find that anytime I intake any food with Vitamin A in it such as eggs, green tea (matcha), fish, celery..my body tightens up and my joints feel stiff. Sometimes I get a headache at the base of my skull.
Is there anything that I can get either from the doctor or in the store that will block Vitamin A absorption. I've tried tons and tons of cleanses etc but nothing does it. And it's nearly impossible to eat food that doesn't have Vitamin A in it.
Please advise.
Thanks,
Jericho