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I've told workmates I'm planning on a crash diet/detox for a couple of weeks! I'd previously discussed juice/water fasts with workmates to test the water (no pun intended!..) but a lot them think you'd have to be mad to stop eating for more than a day, so I can't be arsed having to argue my case all the time, so the crash diet/detox route seems better! I've also got a week booked off work, and plan to get 2 more days booked off if things go to plan. I've actually started the fast today at 13:00, so will see how things go. I'm slim anyway, so the weightloss won't as obviously as if I was a bit portly.
Is that someone from Amsterdam supplying ready made RSO? If so I might well look to get some if it's apparently decent quality. I'll be getting back on the Cibdex once my fast is over, and upping the dosage. The same firm also offer syringes of thick oil which is much stronger, but it's expensive - £150 delivered for a 10 dose syringe. RSO is probably cheaper, but if I feel like I'm getting some benefits from the Cibdex I might consider a couple of syringes of the stuff.
Haha true that! Haha I don't know about that, google 'Christian Bale The Machinist' you've still got weight to lose 
But again then look at him in Batman it's all reversible!
No but apparently if I remember correctly he can get specific strains and then sends it in the post securely. Heard it off another member of one of the forums who's ordered from him before. Solid effort if you go for the syringes (if the Cibdex doesn't work out that is), would be pretty epic if a completely legal substance got us out of this mess!
No but apparently if I remember correctly he can get specific strains and then sends it in the post securely. Heard it off another member of one of the forums who's ordered from him before. Solid effort if you go for the syringes (if the Cibdex doesn't work out that is), would be pretty epic if a completely legal substance got us out of this mess!
There must be people out there selling syringes of ready-made RSO oil, despite the legality issues - there's clearly demand for this stuff! Wish someone could find a reliable UK supplier (if anyone knows of any, PM me!). BTW Crank, did you ever get a response off AccutaneIsPoison, or TaneAbomination with confirmation of what strain they each used?
I've found water fasting isn't compatible with working, so I'm having to hold off now unfortunately. I ate my last full meal Saturday, then just a bowl of soup Sunday before starting the fast, but this morning at about 4.30am I woke up with a pretty intense headache and a thumping pulse. Tried my best to sleep through it, but in the end (with having work today), had to give in and have a glass of orange juice and a bit of chocolate. Felt better within minutes after that. Interestingly I had a dream of a sexual nature when I got back to sleep, which is something that hasn't happened too often since being 'taned!
For anyone else planning on an extended water-fast I'd definitely start off with some shorter fasts first, and suggest doing these while not working. From what I've read days 1-4 are the hardest. I'm determined to do at least a 2 week fast at least once, but next time I'll probably precede the fast with a few days of juicing, and I'll book time off work to cover the start of the fast.
I've decided to order some syringes of 20% CBD oil however (apparently THC content is <1%) and see how that goes as a next step. I'm still a bit confused by the fact RSO is supposed to be high THC, when the medicinal benefits of this look to be primarily pain relief and a relaxant, but there doesn't seem to be much science behind RSO. Either way if CBD oil doesn't work, then I'll damn well find a way of getting RSO oil - 2014 is the year I'm getting myself out of this shit, whatever it takes!!
No but apparently if I remember correctly he can get specific strains and then sends it in the post securely. Heard it off another member of one of the forums who's ordered from him before. Solid effort if you go for the syringes (if the Cibdex doesn't work out that is), would be pretty epic if a completely legal substance got us out of this mess!
There must be people out there selling syringes of ready-made RSO oil, despite the legality issues - there's clearly demand for this stuff! Wish someone could find a reliable UK supplier (if anyone knows of any, PM me!). BTW Crank, did you ever get a response off AccutaneIsPoison, or TaneAbomination with confirmation of what strain they each used?
I've found water fasting isn't compatible with working, so I'm having to hold off now unfortunately. I ate my last full meal Saturday, then just a bowl of soup Sunday before starting the fast, but this morning at about 4.30am I woke up with a pretty intense headache and a thumping pulse. Tried my best to sleep through it, but in the end (with having work today), had to give in and have a glass of orange juice and a bit of chocolate. Felt better within minutes after that. Interestingly I had a dream of a sexual nature when I got back to sleep, which is something that hasn't happened too often since being 'taned!
For anyone else planning on an extended water-fast I'd definitely start off with some shorter fasts first, and suggest doing these while not working. From what I've read days 1-4 are the hardest. I'm determined to do at least a 2 week fast at least once, but next time I'll probably precede the fast with a few days of juicing, and I'll book time off work to cover the start of the fast.
I've decided to order some syringes of 20% CBD oil however (apparently THC content is <1%) and see how that goes as a next step. I'm still a bit confused by the fact RSO is supposed to be high THC, when the medicinal benefits of this look to be primarily pain relief and a relaxant, but there doesn't seem to be much science behind RSO. Either way if CBD oil doesn't work, then I'll damn well find a way of getting RSO oil - 2014 is the year I'm getting myself out of this shit, whatever it takes!!
Perhaps there is. You gotta think it would be hard to market illegal substances. That being said, I remember a couple of people I know mentioned 'silk road' as an online anonymous site where you could buy pretty much any recreational drug available and more. Just googled it here's the wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_ (marketplace)#Silk_Road_2.0
It seems the original has shut down, but they recreated it some of the founders got arrested I don't know if it's still running or if their in the process of creating 3.0 or something.. I couldn't find a URL from a quick 3 minute google search. I'll ask some of the people I know if they have a working URL for it.
No response since TaneAbomination last got back to me. I'll give it a bit longer before I pester, it is Christmas after all don't want to be too rude intruding on his holidays!
Unfortunate, it's quite strange I found when I did a 48 hour fast I felt alert and focussed the only reason I don't do longer is I'm OCD on my sports/fitness and extended fasting isn't compatible. Also alongside the fact my girlfriend freaks out every time I mention fasting or weed. However, I've covered like every argument she has against weed and she's cool with that now (as far as can be anyway). Despite this, someday I will be fasting no matter what anyone says alongside vaping and RSO.
I've got to say that confuses me too. THC is supposedly the primary anti-cancer property and that's what RSO was first produced for. The CBD seems to be what is more beneficial for the neurological properties. However, I'm thinking I'll just cover all bases and go for something which is fairly balanced a 10% THC 10% CBD strain would be ideal.
I'm having to tone down my efforts for this currently due to exams. However, I'm hoping to get enough cash together to get a volcano vapouriser in January and then go from there! But yes by the end of 2014 I will have done at least a fast and hopefully at least a few months of RSO.
Quick question for everyone:
Has anyone experienced long term INSOMINA post Accutane. My insomina gradually got worse over the last 6 months. What worries me more is that I'm not tired in the day time.
Anyone experience something similar?
Interesting, off the top of my head I can't remember anyone mentioning insomnia as a direct effect per se. Although I think I've seen a few people mention insomnia due to depression/anxiety although I may be mistaken.
To tanedout and others interested here's a link from phoenix tears on how to make RSO:
http://phoenixtears.ca/make-the-medicine/
I can't remember what I've posted and what I haven't, pretty hectic here atm.
It seems perhaps a bit ironic to post on this board where we are all a little bit peeved with life but I wish you all A HAPPY NEW YEAR. I'll quote a simple lyric that has stuck with me now, which goes for any of you thinking 'no hope' constantly. Change it up a little and make it 'know hope' for 2014. Cheesey yes, but hey it makes me feel a little bit more optimistic!
Try lithium orotate whenever I took it it put me right to sleep for me I think I was sleeping too much but that being said I think it would work great for insomnia .
Quick question for everyone:
Has anyone experienced long term INSOMINA post Accutane. My insomina gradually got worse over the last 6 months. What worries me more is that I'm not tired in the day time.
Anyone experience something similar?
Interesting journal article I came across whilst revising:
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Take a guess for the longest fast achieved before clicking on the link. It's long! [Edited image out]
Oh and Gladitoro - completely off topic did you see UFC 168? NASTY. (purposely avoided any spoilers just in case you didn't catch it)
I've got to say that confuses me too. THC is supposedly the primary anti-cancer property and that's what RSO was first produced for. The CBD seems to be what is more beneficial for the neurological properties. However, I'm thinking I'll just cover all bases and go for something which is fairly balanced a 10% THC 10% CBD strain would be ideal.
The anti-cancer property of THC is only that it alleviates the effects of chemo though from what I've read, it doesn't inhibit the growth of cancerous cells in any way apparently. CBD on the other hand has shown anti-cancer properties in tests, as well as a host of other medicinal benefits, including neurological as you say (almost certainly what's important for us!).
Based on this assumption that CBD is actually the key cannabinoid in RSO, then you're probably only getting 30mg of CBD per day taking RSO. The recommended does is an average 0.66grams of the oil per day, so assuming you use a strain of cannabis with 5% CBD (this would be more than average from the look of things) then that's 33mg of CBD. A strain with 2% CBD would be only 13.2mg per day, and this is assuming you can extract the CBD efficiently in a non-lab environment (i.e. in the kitchen!).
This Cibdex stuff only offers about 3.5mg of CBD per dose, so I'm taking 3-4 times that per day to get at least 10mg, but the syringes of the stuff contain (in the batch I've bought which is 24% CBD) 240mg per 1gram dose. I'll probably take about 0.33 grams per day, so 80mg per day of CBD.
Going to start on the stronger stuff (syringes) after another attempt at a water fast, starting on the 10th of Jan (have the following week off work). I've been reading up and apparently you can have 40-50 calories without resulting in the body 'breaking' a fastest state, so I'm going to keep taking Cibdex and also may have the odd <40 cal cup of orange juice if I feel the need this time. Also will precede with a couple of days juice fasting which I think will make it easier to get the fast going. Once the fast is complete and re-feeding period over I'll get started on the syringes of CBD oil!!
Best of luck with the exams anyway Crank, few years since I had uni exams to do, but I do have a work related exam in Feb so I'm having to spend time revising at the moment too!
On 1/2/2014 at 5:01 AM, tanedout said:On 1/1/2014 at 3:51 AM, Crank92 said:I've got to say that confuses me too. THC is supposedly the primary anti-cancer property and that's what RSO was first produced for. The CBD seems to be what is more beneficial for the neurological properties. However, I'm thinking I'll just cover all bases and go for something which is fairly balanced a 10% THC 10% CBD strain would be ideal.
The anti-cancer property of THC is only that it alleviates the effects of chemo though from what I've read, it doesn't inhibit the growth of cancerous cells in any way apparently. CBD on the other hand has shown anti-cancer properties in tests, as well as a host of other medicinal benefits, including neurological as you say (almost certainly what's important for us!).
Based on this assumption that CBD is actually the key cannabinoid in RSO, then you're probably only getting 30mg of CBD per day taking RSO. The recommended does is an average 0.66grams of the oil per day, so assuming you use a strain of cannabis with 5% CBD (this would be more than average from the look of things) then that's 33mg of CBD. A strain with 2% CBD would be only 13.2mg per day, and this is assuming you can extract the CBD efficiently in a non-lab environment (i.e. in the kitchen!).
This Cibdex stuff only offers about 3.5mg of CBD per dose, so I'm taking 3-4 times that per day to get at least 10mg, but the syringes of the stuff contain (in the batch I've bought which is 24% CBD) 240mg per 1gram dose. I'll probably take about 0.33 grams per day, so 80mg per day of CBD.
Going to start on the stronger stuff (syringes) after another attempt at a water fast, starting on the 10th of Jan (have the following week off work). I've been reading up and apparently you can have 40-50 calories without resulting in the body 'breaking' a fastest state, so I'm going to keep taking Cibdex and also may have the odd <40 cal cup of orange juice if I feel the need this time. Also will precede with a couple of days juice fasting which I think will make it easier to get the fast going. Once the fast is complete and re-feeding period over I'll get started on the syringes of CBD oil!!
Best of luck with the exams anyway Crank, few years since I had uni exams to do, but I do have a work related exam in Feb so I'm having to spend time revising at the moment too!
Hmm from what I've read I disagree, the few studies I've read are THC is the primary cancer killing component. Although it seems the various cannibinoids have some sort of synergistic effect. It's why I'm still slightly sceptical of isolated compounds alone, without trying to sound like your stereotypical hippy; nature knows best. Here's a random article on a biochemist who cured his cancer and explains the importance of THC;
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Either way I'm not trying to start an argument, if we find something that works then hooray but I think it'll be the real deal that is the best shot! Once again I'm hoping to be proved wrong but pessimism is a forte of mine. Continuing on that point of being negative I suggest you read this:
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The ex-head of science for dixie botanicals who also happen to make CBD basically suggests the whole thing is haphazardly made cr*p. It's a completely different company but still the nutrition industry is somewhat disturbingly far less regulated than the pharmaceutical industry. Once again in my studies we've been looking at athletes who takes supplements and get caught 'pissing hot' in drug tests. I used to think this was BS, but we looked at studies and in something like 1 in 10 brands has some sort of traceable amount of illegal steroid hormones or pre-cursor hormones. Not a pleasant thought! Anyway I reckon it's worth continuing on regardless, it's not going to put you in more of a mess than a thinly veiled chemotherapy drug that's for sure!
Cheers dude, revision has never been one of my favourite past-times but gotta be done!
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The ex-head of science for dixie botanicals who also happen to make CBD basically suggests the whole thing is haphazardly made cr*p. It's a completely different company but still the nutrition industry is somewhat disturbingly far less regulated than the pharmaceutical industry.
Yeah I did see that. Maybe there's some truth, maybe not, but as soon as you read "ex-employee" you expect them to have an axe to grind!
There is clearly growing interest in the medicinal benefits of cannabis, but obviously the legality of cannabis makes these difficult to exploit in most regions. If the outfit behind cibdex and related products is a bit of scam then they'll only go so far before being found out, but if what they offer is genuine then there is the potential for them to be at the forefront of a huge future market. I'm hoping the latter is more the case obviously. At the end of the day I would obviously be taking genuine RSO if I could get hold of the stuff, but I can't, so this is as close to it as I can get - and I think it's worth a shot despite the high cost!
I've just read that article on the 382 day fast - pretty amazing, although he clearly did start out BIG! I was interested to read he was administered a mulitivitamin too. I may take a crushed up mutli-vit per day when I do mine.
Random thing I just noticed - anonny (the quirky homeopathy, liver flushing etc etc dude) was consuming hemp seeds during his healing process according to one of his posts. Although apparently only trace amounts of CBD are found according to this paper:
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I'm aware I'm clutching at straws here, it's just something that's keeping my mind ticking over for now!
A quote from the paper; "Although the
http://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/got-cancer-decarboxylate-your-cannabis/
I might still get a vapouriser despite the fact this article says a heat above 115 Celsius or 240 farenheit starts to degrade beneficial compounds.
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0009453
The role of the endocabbinoid system in Ulcerative Colitis and Chrons Disease.
Also tanedout I've read a few places now that the brain starts developing tolerance for cannibinoids
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page6
so you have to continually and gradually increase the dose to get a response. Same with anything really alcohol, caffeine etc.
Right, who lives in Colorado - can I come crash for 3 months in the Summer?
Also tanedout I've read a few places now that the brain starts developing tolerance for cannibinoids
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page6
so you have to continually and gradually increase the dose to get a response. Same with anything really alcohol, caffeine etc.
I don't think that would really be a factor in this instance though, because it's not like we're getting stoned on THC (which would build up tolerance), I think it's more likely we've suffered genetic changes due to accutane, and some of, or one of the cannbinoids may be reversing a gene which has been down-regulated (aka 'switched off') by accutane resulting in our sides.
Research has shown that CBD has been shown to potentially 'switch off' the gene responsible for cancerous tumor metastasis - mentions it on the wiki page as well actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol
If RSO does indeed result in a 'cure' like has been experienced by the 2 known users then I think they've probably had a gene(s) which has been down-regulated, 'switched back on' or 'reset back to default' if you get what I mean. Once that has happened, the affected bodily functions then slowly return to normal.
Is anyone else following this thread currently using RSO, or planning on doing so other than myself and Crank?! I know it's hard to get hold of but not impossible?!
I read something about the endocannabinoid system regulating the neuroendocrine system so I think that is why it works for us. Unfortunately that could mean we may have to be on a maintenance dose (not a full dose but a little bit before bed) of this stuff for life. Hopefully I am wrong. If anyone talks to taneabomination check in to see if he is still cured. Otherwise I will probably be moving to Colorado. As for which cannabinoid we need I have no idea. I think Cranks idea of a 1:1 ratio is probably the best bet. I am very sensitive to THC so I probably will be looking for a 2:1 ratio of CBD to THC.
I read something about the endocannabinoid system regulating the neuroendocrine system so I think that is why it works for us. Unfortunately that could mean we may have to be on a maintenance dose (not a full dose but a little bit before bed) of this stuff for life. Hopefully I am wrong. If anyone talks to taneabomination check in to see if he is still cured. Otherwise I will probably be moving to Colorado. As for which cannabinoid we need I have no idea. I think Cranks idea of a 1:1 ratio is probably the best bet. I am very sensitive to THC so I probably will be looking for a 2:1 ratio of CBD to THC.
Taneabomination messaged me once (about 2 weeks ago), still awaiting another reply. But it seems he is still doing swell and from what I could discern from his one brief message he is no longer using it. Indeed, I'm seriously considering a 3 month vacation to Colorado. I've got some money saved up for a big investment like another degree or a deposit on a house but I believe my health to be a worthy investment too. For now I think despite the minimal benefits if any I'll opt for a vapouriser just to chill out and consume the after vaping bud with food.
Also tanedout I've read a few places now that the brain starts developing tolerance for cannibinoids
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page6
so you have to continually and gradually increase the dose to get a response. Same with anything really alcohol, caffeine etc.
I don't think that would really be a factor in this instance though, because it's not like we're getting stoned on THC (which would build up tolerance), I think it's more likely we've suffered genetic changes due to accutane, and some of, or one of the cannbinoids may be reversing a gene which has been down-regulated (aka 'switched off') by accutane resulting in our sides.
Research has shown that CBD has been shown to potentially 'switch off' the gene responsible for cancerous tumor metastasis - mentions it on the wiki page as well actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol
If RSO does indeed result in a 'cure' like has been experienced by the 2 known users then I think they've probably had a gene(s) which has been down-regulated, 'switched back on' or 'reset back to default' if you get what I mean. Once that has happened, the affected bodily functions then slowly return to normal.
Is anyone else following this thread currently using RSO, or planning on doing so other than myself and Crank?! I know it's hard to get hold of but not impossible?!
Ayy I read that one of the endocabbinoid systems functions is regulation of homeostasis which clearly has been thrown off by 'tane. So yea you're probably right, although it still seems prudent to up the dose to as much as can be tolerated - what the RSO protocol prescribes anyway. Both taneabomination and accutaneispoison both weren't working during their periods of RSO so I presume they followed that regimen. So not sure if everyone can do that!
Yeah I watched it nasty indeed I watched it live , I have seen most ufc's but I never saw anything like that Anderson Silva lower leg just buckled and turned
80 degrees look gruesome the bone in his leg completely broke , WOW when you watch the slow motion man... most say his career is over very likely recovery could be anywhere from 1 to 2 years and he may never fight again .... a great fighter no doubt but a sad way to end a career.
Interesting journal article I came across whilst revising:
http://pmj.bmj.com/content/49/569/203.full.pdf+html
Take a guess for the longest fast achieved before clicking on the link. It's long!
Oh and Gladitoro - completely off topic did you see UFC 168? NASTY. (purposely avoided any spoilers just in case you didn't catch it)
Really curious about RSO.
Can anyone update on that ?
Well 2 guys on this forum have made full recoveries using it and there is no reason to doubt that both are totally genuine. In both cases it hasn't been a quick fix, and has taken months to fully recover, but they have recovered. Here is the first recovery detail from AccutaneIsPoison (from page 108 of this thread);
Hello everyone i am finally back after a few months with amazing news. I HAVE FOUND THE CURE!!!!!
THE CURE IS CANNABIS OIL! I posted about this months ago while i still did not know much on the topic now i have just about read every single thing on the internet and watched just about every testimonial and video on youtube. THIS OIL REVERSES CHEMO DAMAGE (accutane is poison chemo drug) AND IT CURES JUST ABOUT EVERY MEDICAL ISSUE!
I started taking the oil for ONLY A FEW DAYS and immediately i was coming back to my old self FASTER THAN EVER! Now i can i say i am 100% cured back to my old self THIS OIL IS AMAZING. If you live in the united states you see the huge explosion of legalization because people are finding out how AMAZING this plant is and how it works medical miracles for literally all conditions!
Here is some quick science-
Why does it cure or treat literally every medical issue and reverse chemo damage? Thank you ENDOCANNABINOID SYSTEM
Cannabinoid Receptors are in our skin, brain, immune system, intestines, liver, spine, ribs, white blood cells, & bone marrow (STEM CELLS) etc. Without the 600 Million+ year old Endocannabinoid System*, Stem Cells would act like a car without a driver. *Dr. Guy, Executive Chairman of GW Pharmaceuticals, London, UK
NOW, please watch these videos to see tons of further video proof of this amazing medicine!
This is HUGE playlist i designed with video after video of proof how amazing this medicine is!
It is so hard for me express how amazing this medicine is, it LITERALLY brought me from an accutane-destroyed bed ridden person back to my old self in no time!
IT IS NOW LEGAL IN 2 STATES IN THE U.S. soon to be much more so if you want to cure yourself travel there!
I can answer any questions anyone has and i want EVERYONE to know about this ASAP. THIS IS THE CURE
And this is the second from TaneAboninaton who then followed the same protocol, and it worked for him too (page 197 of this thread);
Is anyone reading this forum who suffers from sexual dysfunction due to Accutane recovered or shown improvements?
I was one of those unfortunate people. I say "was" because I eventually recovered sexual function & libido returned too.
I must have tried a million things, spent thousands of dollars, seen doctors who shrugged their shoulders at me, also tried fasting & switching to organic, expensive supplements, etc. etc. etc. But anyone reading this needs to refer to December 2012 of this incredibly long forum. Someone named AccutaneIsPoison posted his remedy - I tried his proposed remedy for about for 5 months, and improvements came slowly. Also a great remedy for anyone suffering from depression (which isotretinoin can cause to the point of suicide). Today, I'm able to have sex with my wife without use of viagra, cialis or any of that other crap. Post accutane - I was quite dead and had no interest in sex at all.
Anyone interested go back to Nov/Dec 2012 posts and read the posts by AccutaneIsPoision and the research he provided on this forumj - this is real medicine and should be taken seriously.
I'm not aware of anyone else who has tried this protocol yet, but myself and at least one of the other guys on here are looking to follow suit.
Great.
I suffer from
Dry lips
Hair loss
Shoulder grinds
And some other symptons.
My main worry is the fact that it maybe gets worse over time. It kills you from the inside out.
I did a 5 month course with very mild symptons. Got a clean skin, perfect !
Yet 3 years after the course, I took multi vits to fight unusual slow nail growth and cracked lips.
Then it looked like it activated some accutane side effects.
My hair started falling out so after some searching on the internet I made the accutane link.
Now im taking Vit E, Taurine and Biotin.
The RSO looks promising.
I found this
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It is indeed low on THC which is the main "fighter" yet it is relatively high on CBD.
Ill give this a try and keep you guys posted.
It is not the same as RSO.
Hopefully the CBD proves that nature is all we need.
Hi guys,
I've been following this thread for a way so thought it was about time I posted.
I took accutane when I was 19 in 2010. I was on it for 5 months but cannot remember the dosage. Ever since I have suffered progressively worse symptoms. The main ones are:
- Hair loss
- Dry skin
- dry eyes
- IBS
- sexual dysfunction
- neuropathy
- depression and anxiety
I've tried just about every supplement. The only thing that makes me feel better is lots of exercise and using a sauna daily. Definitely keen to try cannibis oil.
I graduated with a pharmacology and physiology degree last year and know the important role endocannibinoids play in stem cell regulation.
Aussieface,
How long have you had insomnia? It's been almost 7 months post accutane, and my insomnia has gotten progressively worse. These days, I average 1-2 hours of sleep a night max. Lost a ton of weight. The weird part is, I don't feel tired at all during the day time.
Have you had any success with treating ur insomnia? Any information is much appreciated.
Currently on 20mgs for another 6-10 months for Acne/Rosacea.
I'm hoping to just stop after 6 months even on a low dose.
I have the ED, which sucks.
Constipation, which sucks.
Asthma problems
Joint pain, pretty bad as i work out alot
Insomnia [Really bad, probably be on Benzo's for the rest of my life]
Depression but not that bad the exercise really helps.
Ps ive had laser Pulse Dye and it was the biggest mistake of my life.
If you are acne prone stay away it will make it worse, beyond!