Narutopathy? XDD I'm just saying facts that everybody knows. You don't need to have a degree to read books & informations from doctors, and to have your own experience, i'm just telling how things truely work, it's not something "alternative", it's simply how our human physiology work, no one can contest it, it's in official medicine books. I can't believe that i'm trying to help people who insult you back for it, it's kinda pathetic.

 

It's sad, people here accuse accutane for all of their trouble (even if it "magnified" existing problems its true) but do nothing to heal themselves. You say diet, isotherapy, herbs, detox cure, etc.. doesn't work, but you LIE, 100%, you don't even know what's a good diet, you didn't even do 10% of what is required and you give up after 2month. Typically american, i don't even know why i'm trying to help you (i say that for specific people here). You are a poison to yourself and don't even realize it.

 

Apparently you don't need infos to how to overcome accutane & other conditions, infos who already cured thousands of people afflicted by many different conditions (a lot more deadly than ours). Continue to wait an other magic pill to save you, you brilliant people (here again, specific).

 

I'm leaving this "doomed" place, bye and have fun in your lamentations. For those who have a brain, you should stay away from here, those people will bring you nothing but more despair & deception. Everything is up to you, accutane is not a big deal when you know what to do (can see my previous posts to understand), i'm far from being the only one who is now cured from it, and i can tell that i never heard about someone with more severe symptoms as me.

I'm not sure why I'll bother but I will.

Pre-accutane:

20 years old. National level swimmer bordering on international - 20 hours per week aerobic/anaerobic pool work, 6 hours resistance training. Paleo diet to the letter, overall alkaline diet, correct ratio of omega 3:6, enough sunlight, 8-10 hours sleep per night. Libido was sky high like any 20 y/o, my equipment had never failed me when the opportunity arose. The only way I found I could control my acne was through limiting carbohydrates entirely (not just high GI), but when you train that much that drastic a reduction in carbohydrate effects performance. I had never had digestive problems for longer than a couple of days at a time. So I decided to do 'tane.

Post-accutane:

So bare in mind the difference between pre and post 'tane is 10 days;

Horrendous diarrhea continued for 5 days straight until I consumed a f**k ton of anti-diarrhea tabs. My stomach is still not right now 13 months later, but I control it with a strict diet. My libido went up and left 3-4 weeks after, as did my equipments ability to work. This has not improved much despite my improvement in digestive issues (this is not a deficiency issue, otherwise every Maccy D regular would be having ED issues). Check the studies, 'tane effects the brain at the DNA level.

Without being a straight up d*ck, I challenge you to find someone who lives a healthier lifestyle than me. I do not drink, I do not smoke, I do not do drugs, I eat between 10 and 25 pieces of vegetables and fruit a day (about 70% fruit, for the carbs), I avoid grains and dairy. Heck I even got stick from some athletes that I am too anal retentive in regards to health. Comes with the territory of trying to be the best.

Explain that Anonyy you giant dildo

Of course you have digestive issue, like i said it's the main problem caused by accutane, apparently you insult and judge without even read what i've said.
You have diarrhea certainly cause of an obstrued colon/intestine or light nodes, your body is forced to do like that to make it pass thru. Diet is only half part of the solution. And apparently you still eat meat, it's bad, you can only eat meat if you have an already good digestive system. You don't say if you take coffee, legumes, chocolate, refined sugars (drink, cake, etc..) and a lot of potentialy toxic foods. Raw vegetables aren't a good idea while having inflamed intestine, you should eat them juiced.
You say you don't have deficiency, but eating enough nutrient doesn't mean they pass thru your intestine to your blood, and even if they pass in the blood this doesn't mean they reach correctly the cells.
Like i said at least 10 times, DNA theory about accutane is pure crap.

That's my last post, you're brilliant enough to understand what cause your problems by yourself apparently (or maybe not?). I'm not interested to answer to negative people, if someone want to answer/question me, pm me.

Riddle me this oh mighty riddler,

I'm going to straighten out some of your terminology first off; 'light nodes' I presume you mean 'lymph nodes' as I do not have any light emitting diodes within my being as far as I'm aware. I also don't know if you've stumbled across something the medical/academic community has in regards to your information on the 'surrenals', but as far as I'm aware they are a tissue of unknown importance in front of the kidneys in regards to current literature I can find (googled it, google scholared it, looked in ncbi, pubmed etc).

No coffee, no legumes, no nightshade vegetables, no chocolate, no refined sugars. My vegetables are steamed mostly. I take a probiotic with 14 different strains. The diet I follow keeps me completely regular and follows in accordance with the 'Gut and Psychology Syndrome' and 'Specific Carbohydrate Diet', these are diets for people with far more damaged gastric systems than I (Chrons Disease and Ulcerative Colitis). You know what? they don't restrict meat. Although they do say processed meat is a no go. NO I do not eat bacon and the like. I eat lean organic chicken and salmon. I am recovering (gastric wise anyway) despite ALL that meat. I test once each month, since about month 6-8 I only get bloating from a dietary misdemeanour and no longer diarrhoea. Otherwise if I follow the diet I am 100% regular.

Would you mind sharing your peer reviewed journals, I can't seem to find them online? It's a validated fact that isotretinoin has effects on over 100 genes in the skin alone. Studies have shown effects on the brain too. Does this mean repair is not possible? No, the human body is resilient and the brains neuro-plasticity means people can improve and some even 100% recover. But when the DNA is involved that codes for our homeostatic feedback loops is disrupted, a new homeostasis is to be found whether that be reduced cell regeneration, lower hippocampal neuron count etc etc. Which has detrimental effects obviously. Why some people can recover after 6 months or more, is still something people are trying to figure out.

However, despite all this anger I'm venting at people telling me that I'm just not trying hard enough. Congratulations on finding something that got you out of this mess. Just realise that some people get out of this by luck, I found someone who recovered by 'drinking more water and playing sports'. Doesn't sound too dramatic but hey it worked for him. But even with this anger, you are right. A good diet is key to any sort of recovery, just don't tell us who are still suffering that we've given up and this is our own fault. That is specifically what made we rage not the methodology you propose.

Riddle me this oh mighty riddler,

 

I'm going to straighten out some of your terminology first off; 'light nodes' I presume you mean 'lymph nodes' as I do not have any light emitting diodes within my being as far as I'm aware. I also don't know if you've stumbled across something the medical/academic community has in regards to your information on the 'surrenals', but as far as I'm aware they are a tissue of unknown importance in front of the kidneys in regards to current literature I can find (googled it, google scholared it, looked in ncbi, pubmed etc).

 

No coffee, no legumes, no nightshade vegetables, no chocolate, no refined sugars. My vegetables are steamed mostly. I take a probiotic with 14 different strains. The diet I follow keeps me completely regular and follows in accordance with the 'Gut and Psychology Syndrome' and 'Specific Carbohydrate Diet', these are diets for people with far more damaged gastric systems than I (Chrons Disease and Ulcerative Colitis). You know what? they don't restrict meat. Although they do say processed meat is a no go. NO I do not eat bacon and the like. I eat lean organic chicken and salmon. I am recovering (gastric wise anyway) despite ALL that meat. I test once each month, since about month 6-8 I only get bloating from a dietary misdemeanour and no longer diarrhoea. Otherwise if I follow the diet I am 100% regular.

 

EDIT: I'll sum up my diet; water, wide variety of vegetables, wide variety of fruit, lean meat, fish, nuts (not peanuts - a legume apparently). Within these food groups they conform to the strictest standards of paleo (albeit not the ketogenic version, which I'm looking into doing again post January exams) and SCD & GAPS diet.

 

Would you mind sharing your peer reviewed journals, I can't seem to find them online? It's a validated fact that isotretinoin has effects on over 100 genes in the skin alone. Studies have shown effects on the brain too. Does this mean repair is not possible? No, the human body is resilient and the brains neuro-plasticity means people can improve and some even 100% recover. But when the DNA is involved that codes for our homeostatic feedback loops is disrupted, a new homeostasis is to be found whether that be reduced cell regeneration, lower hippocampal neuron count etc etc. Which has detrimental effects obviously. Why some people can recover after 6 months or more, is still something people are trying to figure out.

 

However, despite all this anger I'm venting at people telling me that I'm just not trying hard enough. Congratulations on finding something that got you out of this mess. Just realise that some people get out of this by luck, I found someone who recovered by 'drinking more water and playing sports'. Doesn't sound too dramatic but hey it worked for him. But even with this anger, you are right. A good diet is key to any sort of recovery, just don't tell us who are still suffering that we've given up and this is our own fault. That is specifically what made we rage not the methodology you propose.

Yes! It was the white rice we were eating, not off-label use of a chemotherapy drug that made us all sick

Glad to have someone who would have probably had a natural recovery doing ten hand-stands a day hanging out here rubbing it in our faces that he is better now..

His scientific explanations of voodoo and homeopathy will be the future basis for treating all diseases.

TOXINS!

Thanks for the help annoy.

You are such a coward to try to displace my words after i leave. You are moron, thats the disease you are afflicted of, not accutane. Accutane "victims" doens't use their time to lament, menacing to suicide & say "its genetic!!!", but they look for a real solution. I came here with a solution, but you in your stupidity & avidity you try to convince yourself and other that it doesnt work, with all your lies & crap dna theory, and worse you insult me back, you are really pathetic, you 100% deserve what you got.
My arguments are scientific and known, all disease/conditions are caused by a bad environment, mainly from obstruction/congestion by toxins & acids. But too from a bad inflamed, hyperpermeable intestine, it's related. If you find voodoo in it, it's your problem. But if you prefer to believe in those dna crap for brainwashed people you can, it's your choice, maybe a voodooman will bring you an other magic pill to cure all of your problems (maybe dumbness too!), we can't be sure!.
Isotherapy is just here to start the eliminating process back (or reduce the immune response toward accutane-toxic cells), and it work, you can ask people who already tried it. Like i said i didn't believed in it too at first.

Anyway, i don't really care of your insults, at the end of the day you will be the one afflicted by your own stupidity and still complaining about "side effects".

I give up. Anonyy you win,

Homeopathy works and the world is flat.

Yes, and santa claus exist too, you can ask him a magic candy to help your diarhea, like that you won't have to use your brain and fix your issues by yourself.

It become really pathetic to talk with sheeps who will fight to death for their own demise. Maybe by chance you will realize it one day. The sad thing is that you don't even read what i've said, or don't even understand, you just answer to satisfy yourself with an low-minded insult. You focus on homeopathy but it's far from being the main & important thing i've said, and it's not even homeopathy, it's isotherapy. I understand, you prefer toxic chemical that cause intense direct effects like accutane, boom no more acne, are you happy now?. You apparently have no knowledge & experience about isotherapy, but still you try to mock it. No other chemicals drug will heal you from accutane, and the dna + telomere theory is known as a scam, like the old theory who said that the world is flat, as you said.

Getting back on topic..

1) Has anyone tried rick simpson/cannabis oil? I understand this may be hard to get hold of in some places, but it seems to be the only thing which has convincingly 'cured' people - certainly in Accutaneispoison and TaneAbominiation's cases (forum members). Has anyone else tried this method?

2) Also interested to know if anyone else has tried either a juice fast or water fast? If so how long for and what was the outcome? I understand some people have seen improvement from this method too.

Thanks!

From my experience, i didn't tried rick simpson oil but i took a large dose of heated cannabis among with fat, who caused me some panic attack for more than 6month. But it had some positive effects too, it permitted me to have a "clearer" state of mind from my depersonnalization, make me feel alive again & gave me strengh to overcome those sick negative though that we all have at a certain point of time, thats the thing who permit me to start looking for a cure instead of lamenting myself, next i've done those liver flush etc.. etc... I can say that it work, even with the wrong protocol but in my case it wasn't enough but still really effective.

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oli girl, did you 100% stopped for more than 3month those foods: dairy, grains (even rice), animal products, legumes, soy, any kind of processed food, refined salt, refined sugar, any acidic food?. Did you eat a lot of fruits & vegetables/juiced vegetables & take herbs to help detoxification, and aloe vera, chlorophyll (juiced greens) etc.. to repair the intestine?

Anonyy as much as you like to say none of us stick with your "cure", I find that I follow your diet immaculately apart from chicken breasts or salmon for protein. I'm aware these have an acidic base (as you say is the key to avoid) but I can tell you that given the amount of fruit and veg I consume my diet overall is ~70%+ alkaline You're telling me that some of the most hypo-allergenic foods are the cause of my sexual dysfunction and are 100% halting my progress? Look I'm actually agreeing with you on that this diet is perfect for repairing intestinal damage caused by a gut flora imbalance leading to toxicity from opportunistic bacteria which end up damaging the intestinal walls. Although I won't discount other methods that 'tane can damage the gastric system.

I'm just pointing out that diet is not a cure-all as much as I'd love that to be the case. Although if you tell me straight up right now that giving up meat will lead to resolution or at least minor improvements of my sexual dysfunction, I will quit meat right now for 3-6 months (should be enough to see improvements as you state). Trust that I will stick to it. You can't beat me at anal retentivity in regards to diet (who thought I'd boast about that).

So what you reckon?

I have to say anonyy you intrigue me. You post valid scientific journals yet also promote homeopathy and other random anti-science methodologies

See R. Dawkins and homeopathy

Just out of curiosity what is your background - i.e education and the like?

I'm not patronising or insulting you now. I've calmed down having had a decent workout now.

Getting back on topic..

1) Has anyone tried rick simpson/cannabis oil? I understand this may be hard to get hold of in some places, but it seems to be the only thing which has convincingly 'cured' people - certainly in Accutaneispoison and TaneAbominiation's cases (forum members). Has anyone else tried this method?

2) Also interested to know if anyone else has tried either a juice fast or water fast? If so how long for and what was the outcome? I understand some people have seen improvement from this method too.

Thanks!

I can answer 2 -

http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6142&start=100

Scroll about 3/4 down the page. You'll find a list of people who've tried it.

Diet is just about not causing more arm, give bioavailable alkaline minerals & not waste energy from hard digestion, complex protein & sugars are really hard to digest. After that repairing & flushing the intestine are the priority, with greens juice, aloe vega, epsom salt (from liver flush, it cleanse the intestine too), etc.. etc.. We need to help our eliminating organs (intestine + kidney mainly) with herbs or flushs (i personnaly did the liver flush with epsom salts & the clark kidney cleanse, i can't say if something else work). It's all about congestion of the intestine, kidney, liver & other part of the body.

Don't know if other people had this too but, regular hepatic test showed nothing wrong but this one is a little bit strange: [removed]

Of course if you compare homeopathy to something it has nothing to do with (molecules), it become false. Homeopathy/isopathy is about the imprint (energetic or physical idk) who trigger a "different" response than the molecule form of the material, i believe it has something to do with water memory, wave form, like different type of sounds makes. Anyway i don't really care how it work, as i tried it and it worked.

First of all, I wanna say that I lost my time reading the scientific explanations of some users from here, like Dubya, who posts lots of studies regarding accutane, and others who suggest using imunosupressive pills.

Guys, i hope you can make this thread reach 1000 posts.....useless posts from what i can say...

There are also people like oli girl who are really nice, and trying to help the sufferers as much as they can.

I also found here 2 great guys : Connor McElvain who got cured with a long fasting and was kind enough to write us about how he recovered from his bad sides (page 111)....and anonyy, an amazing person, who is willing to help everyone with harmless methods, and who is still here to help others, although he has no benefits from this.

Its pretty unbelievable how people are! Some suggest them natural methods of healing themselves, and they dont care about it at all. But when others copy/paste them scientific studies and suggest them taking imunosupressors, or other chemicals, they seem so interested in it.

Many are just waiting for "Magic pill 750" - i named it this way, lol...... well, it wont be available in the next 50 years, from what i can say.

People, stop wasting ur time reading these nonsense posts.....im sorry, but most of the posts from here are useless.

All we can do is : eating healthy (raw diet, vegis and fruits juice), do colon cleanses, liver and kidney cleanses/flushes, isotheraphy (it worked for anonyy, hasnt it?)

And.....now is time to look up there, and ask God for help.

Dont not adopt the attitude people like Indigo Rush adopts, saying God is just a bearded man who doesnt exist. No offence Indigo.

God can cure any disease. He has millions of ways to help us, giving us some answers, perform a miracle, or any other method.

Pray hard, pray and insist, make promises to God and respect them, become better people, stop swearing, have faith in Him.

Many of you will say "Hey, u r crazy man", but it is enough to do a Google search to see people who are saying that God cured them. They are not liars.

If you prefer ignoring my good advices and my words, u can do as u like. If u have other options that work for u, im happy for u.

As one of the God's sons, i felt like i need to open your eyes, and put you on the right track.

Yes im sick! yes, i have most of the accutane sides! And yes, I will be cured! God wont leave me!

Im sorry if i insulted anyone with my words, i hate no one of you.

God bless u all!

I'm not the only one who said isotherapy was beneficial, if there wasn't others people testimony about it i would for sure never tried it.

Ok so here goes, everyone has seen how bitter I've been regarding anyone who challenges me on diet. So if this is the miracle cure then I will record a video of me eating my own hat and apologise to anonyy and others who have been offended.

I as of February 1st 2014 (after January exams) will;

i) Commence a 2 week fast (I repeat I have around 6% bodyfat, 2 weeks will leave me emaciated)
ii) Commence a raw food diet juiced if need be of only vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds and water (same as current, but no chicken/salmon)
iii) Commence Isotherapy (despite how ridiculous the idea sounds)
iv) Ingest required herbs as instructed by Anonyy
v) There are over 3,000 different Gods recorded throughout history - I'll pray to several different ones each day. (Look I get it, I'll be given the 'you genuinely have to believe' for anything to come about. But Richard Dawkins is the only prophet I have ever believed in)

If there is anything I have missed out, enlighten me.

If by following this 100% I have not seen an improvement in symptoms - I will upon finishing university (July 2014) grow my own sativa strain of marijuana and create the required cannabis oil and try that.

Is there anything I'm missing?

Hey annoy,

How do I get in contact with you. I'm not super savy with forums. Anyways I wanted to try the isotherapy and wanted all the info and had questions about your history and symptoms prior. I know you've said all this in previous posts but I am exhausted looking through this forum over the last month. Iv'e done about all the research and googling I can do to make up for the twelve years prior that I took the drug. Anyways, I've decided that my belief of the power of the human spirit along with God or positive thinking is my best option for some healing. I'm still confused about the isotherapy using the same antagonist (accutane) that created the problem. I think I remember you saying it has to be done by a lab in a fraction of the dose. If I can get in contact with you that would be great. Thanks for sharing and stay strong.

I do not quite understand why everyone here argues all the time and we get nowhere. There is not much new that anyone brings to the table that has not been discussed for many years as mentioned by Oli. Instead of arguing against people if you don't like it, don't try it. Don't knock it till you try it. If anyone wants to bring change its going to be by uniting together and championing for research. Even if it is not in our lifetime, it is our duty to protect the future. Maybe that will eliminate the drug from the market and spare our brothers and sisters.

I feel this forum would be a great support for those who suffering by trying to pull more silver linings from life. Everyone has symptoms, some more severe than others. I respect that-but there are two options lay down and die or fight and enjoy our lives as much as we can. I dont feel as though I need to validate my conditions but in order to save time for possible others I will, because I am not going to respond further to this forum. I went on accutane 12 years ago. Almost committed suicide one night due to out of nowhere suicidal thoughts. I stopped the next day. I have bleached skin, always red facial skin that flushes, hair loss, dry eye almost always, loss of tan skin and probably cognitive problems. Lol (my family would say so) Im starting to feel more joint aches and some digestive problems but I digress. Were all in the same boat. My sister has autoimmune disorder similar to Rheumatoid arthritus and others and was diagnosed before she was 21.My mom has chronic fatigue...I have a twin brother who also was on it and he has same symptoms except worse skin issues-due to longer regimine. He almost died four years ago due to TTP a rare blood clotting disorder that I found some evidence that accutane can also cause. (Who knows-doesnt really matter) My point- how does this help anyone live. We cant live in the fear. The story goes on and enjoy life and don't think of the worst because it probably won't happen. I consider you all my brothers and sisters and thank you all for sharing and also your efforts in research and trial and error. I hope everyone has a great holiday and I wish you all the best. God bless.

Before doing the isotherapy you should restore and make your intestine, liver & kidney to work correctly (with herbs, greens juices, aloe, cure, etc..). You should try at least one liver flush and see if you feel better after, if that's the case you certainly have something to fix about your intestine or liver (but it's mainly about intestine), that was the revelation after my first flush x). I took: 30k 1st day, 200k 3rd, 1000k 5th day, 10 000k 7th day, i added nux vomica to it by the way, some say it's uselesss (5min after accutane dose).

I can't really give a protocol, i did so many thing at the same time to be sure that it will be perfect.. but i already said everything i've done: 3week kidney flush tea (clark), 10+ liver flush (dont think that much is necessary, i was still doing diet mistake until 5th flush so the process took longer), strict diet, lot of sunshine, sport. And then the isotherapy, while on it i took some lemon juice+olive oil everyday (10-30ml each) (with 3-4days pause when i felt tired). Before this lemon juice, i took a complex with psyllium, charcoal & bentonite. I took regulary kombucha, d glucarate, artichoke + beet and some drainors for the liver & kidney like milk thistle & dandelion.

Except from diet, no more soap, deodorants, toothpaste with alluminum, parabens, fluoride, too much chemicals. No drugs like paracetamol & other pain killers who are highly poisonous to the liver. I always had headache which i resolved with lemon juice (+piment) & by elevating my bed on head side.

Nuts aren't really good cause of their enzyme inhibitors & other antinutrients, i know it seems really abusive-strict but, it's necessary. I eat hemp seed for the omega 6 - 3.
It's not really a good thing but i still eat some quinoa & potatoes (+ onion & tomato sauce), but except that only fruits & vegetables.

just wanted to post real quick ive noticed much sharper vision including at night and less dry eyes taking nac (n acetylcysteine) 1200 -1800mg a day. glanced at some studies and this could be due to thinning of mucus and increased glutathione production that benefits the eyes. dont want to post any more until i know for sure about possible other benefits. but when it comes to vision this has had a big impact. and seems to only last as long as you take the pills. stays in blood about 5 hrs or so? but then i also read the effects can build up in your body over time. makes my eyes less sensitive to light as well. gona keep using this for a few months see how it goes

That was well said Deebo.

Before doing the isotherapy you should restore and make your intestine, liver & kidney to work correctly (with herbs, greens juices, aloe, cure, etc..). You should try at least one liver flush and see if you feel better after, if that's the case you certainly have something to fix about your intestine or liver (but it's mainly about intestine), that was the revelation after my first flush x). Isotherapy is the final part (i added nux vomica to it by the way, some say it's useless), 30k 1st day, 200k 3rd, 1000k 5th day, 10 000k 7th day, same with nux vomica, 5min after accutane dose.

 

I can't really give a protocol, i did so many thing at the same time to be sure that it will be perfect.. but i already said everything i've done: 3week kidney flush tea (clark), 10+ liver flush (dont think that much is necessary, i was still doing diet mistake until 5th flush so the process took longer), strict diet, lot of sunshine, sport. And then the isotherapy, while on it i took some lemon juice+olive oil everyday (10-30ml each) (with 3-4days pause when i felt tired). Before this lemon juice, i took a complex with psyllium, charcoal & bentonite. I took regulary kombucha, d glucarate, artichoke + beet and some drainors for the liver & kidney like milk thistle & dandelion.

 

Except from diet, no more soap, deodorants, toothpaste with alluminum, parabens, fluoride, too much chemicals. No drugs like paracetamol & other pain killers who are highly poisonous to the liver. I always had headache which i resolved with lemon juice (+piment) & by elevating my bed on head side.

 

Nuts aren't really good cause of their enzyme inhibitors & other antinutrients, i know it seems really abusive-strict but, it's necessary. I eat hemp seed for the omega 6 - 3.

It's not really a good thing but i still eat some quinoa & potatoes (+ onion & tomato sauce), but except that only fruits & vegetables.

What are your thoughts on alcohol? Abstain or not?

Of course abstain alcohol.. it's one of the worst common poison.

And about meat, only organic chicken physiologicaly fed in low quantity is acceptable, red meat & fish are the worst kind apparently.

Here's a quick must-read that every Accutane victim can relate to: http://www.medpagetoday.com/meetingcoverage/sfn/42903

Of course abstain alcohol.. it's one of the worst common poison.

 

And about meat, only organic chicken physiologicaly fed in low quantity is acceptable, red meat & fish are the worst kind apparently.

Crank,

I had a nice laugh reading your last post. Humor is the key for my well being. I was not one to sticking up for annoy particularly or anyone for that matter. My thoughts were echoing probably my own sentiments of anger and despair against the beast that perscribes this candy. We are all here for the same reason of physical and emotional pain and being conflictive is counter intuitive. No ones perfect, sh#t, the people who are closest to me endure most of my negative bouts.

I tend to believe most fully in the teleomere or however you spell it theory due to the fact that it was a chemo drug and researching chemo drugs and everything else, seems to be the most sound, as well as most of my premature aging signs.(wrinkles in forehead, greying hair that started couple of years ago(28 now). Who knows maybe it is inability to detoxify. Basically at this point I dont care. What we need is a leader and to unite as one to not just put the word out but uncover the damn coverup! Until that is done, I don't think we ourselves are going to find the magic cure. Now I'm sure there are exceptions(annoy don't take offense, I hope I can be as lucky, and I am willing to try your method-shoot, I'd drink my own urine for a year if that was it). There has to be a movement-something to draw the focus of our short attention spanned society-something that lasts. I'l save the four founding fathers quote-for lack of overkill. Petitions don't change wars-protests of massive groups and something to grab attentions do. Id like to die saying I did something to fight the injustice.

In the back of my mind though I am pessimistic until proven wrong. I think accutane is a blessing and a curse. Theres been an awakening of compassion towards others and I'm learning to really try and live every day to the fullest-even if it means helping one person. Life is not fair-kids get cancer and people have far worse. Sometimes that reminder makes it easier. All humanity is suffering and I am no different. I've fought everything my whole life and I'm tired. I know acceptance is the only thing for me to survive. Constantly OCDing about symptoms and cures takes away from life and living. Thank you all again for sharing and not giving up.

1. On a lighter note- I haven't seen much on topicals such as lotion for extremely dry skin on face

Ive used over the years:aveeno, cetaphil and most otc lotions with the exception of cerave(which I'l experiement with but have seen reviews about actually sucking moisture out of the skin in dry climates-due to the hylaraunic acid). I have small bumps on my forehead that have developed in the last year that seems to be from ingrown hairs and dehydrated skin) keep in mind i aim to drink 1 1/2 gallons of water a day.

2. Also, anyone else use the Baxyl with success. I know of the few here that have but have not heard updates.

3. What are peoples thoughts about the Low Dose Naproxen (lDN) I know MOVING ON was taking it with good results but have not seen any recent updates. Have you all looked into it and if so, what are your reasons for deciding against it? I know from MOVING ON's post she/he was seeming to get good results for the time.

4. Probably most important. What works well in your experience for the depression/anciexty(preferably natural). I find it very hard to find excitement and stagnancy in life and its not just when life sucks-its when things are going very well as well. I feel I can never just chill and enjoy stuff. Perhaps lack of endorphins. If anyone has had success with something along these lines please let me know. I can deal with the rest adequetly, but I need some help with the head. Thanks guys!

Thanks guys for your time if you read this looooooong post> I'm on my way to take my son to see the Transiberian Orchestra- (Owwh Gas Monkey just got paid!!)

Before doing the isotherapy you should restore and make your intestine, liver & kidney to work correctly (with herbs, greens juices, aloe, cure, etc..). You should try at least one liver flush and see if you feel better after, if that's the case you certainly have something to fix about your intestine or liver (but it's mainly about intestine), that was the revelation after my first flush x). Isotherapy is the final part (i added nux vomica to it by the way, some say it's useless), 30k 1st day, 200k 3rd, 1000k 5th day, 10 000k 7th day, same with nux vomica, 5min after accutane dose.I can't really give a protocol, i did so many thing at the same time to be sure that it will be perfect.. but i already said everything i've done: 3week kidney flush tea (clark), 10+ liver flush (dont think that much is necessary, i was still doing diet mistake until 5th flush so the process took longer), strict diet, lot of sunshine, sport. And then the isotherapy, while on it i took some lemon juice+olive oil everyday (10-30ml each) (with 3-4days pause when i felt tired). Before this lemon juice, i took a complex with psyllium, charcoal & bentonite. I took regulary kombucha, d glucarate, artichoke + beet and some drainors for the liver & kidney like milk thistle & dandelion. Except from diet, no more soap, deodorants, toothpaste with alluminum, parabens, fluoride, too much chemicals. No drugs like paracetamol & other pain killers who are highly poisonous to the liver. I always had headache which i resolved with lemon juice (+piment) & by levating my bed on head side.Nuts aren't really good cause of their enzyme inhibitors & other ntinutrients, i know it seems really abusive-strict but, it's necessary. I eat hemp seed for the omega 6 - 3.It's not really a good thing but i still eat some quinoa & potatoes (+ onion & tomato sauce), but except that only fruits & vegetables.

ok annoy, I don't mean to blow you up but IM still confused about the isotherapy. Did you reingest accutane in super small dose or by theory are you thinking it is still in our bodies so you didn't need to retake it

The ones of you who tries to fast, do not lay down on the bed while being hungry, and sleep, or watch tv or other thing, waiting ur body to heal on his own!

If u try fasting, pray, pray in the morning, during daytime, at night.....pray.....Guys, its FREE!! U better prefer spending lots of hard earned money on all kinds of supplements which dont work? I did that too, and all i've got from it is having less money.

Fast, close ur eyes and pray, have faith, cry, tell God your sicknesses and ask for help, ask for healing, insist and insist, i promise u that God will hear u if u believe He can cure u, if u believe Jesus died for us.

Believe! Believe in His great power guys!

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Pray, and ur Fast will be very meaningful and much powerful. God can cure us all. We just need to pray, and believe. God doesnt asks us for money...

If u prefer making fun of me and my words, u can do as u like. I wont be upset, everybody can do as he likes.

May God open your minds and hearts!

"So I say to you; Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened." - Luke 11:9