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(@movingon)

Posted : 06/19/2013 7:04 pm

Thanks for your sexist comments Cam.

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 06/19/2013 8:44 pm

Thanks for your sexist comments Cam.

I have no intention to dissect this latest, unfair criticism levelled against me. I was imploring Glad to stand on his own 2 feet and actively join the discussion, instead of acting inline with more classic femininity which sometimes has encompassed passive-aggressive tendencies - sheesh. Can someone please recommend the new "cure."

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(@gladiatoro)

Posted : 06/19/2013 9:26 pm

Thanks for your sexist comments Cam.

Sdro123 , I guess Z24 doesn't get it , I'm done with him and his childish comments he really has no idea who I am and he never will and if I EVER

meet him in person he will get a punch in the face , no one insults me. I'm guessing he is about 5 foot 7 160 pounds vs me 6 foot 4 210 pounds

your barking up the wrong tree Z24.

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Posted : 06/19/2013 9:46 pm

 

Thanks for your sexist comments Cam.

Sdro123 , I guess Z24 doesn't get it , I'm done with him and his childish comments he really has no idea who I am and he never will and if I EVER

meet him in person he will get a punch in the face , no one insults me. I'm guessing he is about 5 foot 7 160 pounds vs me 6 foot 4 210 pounds

your barking up the wrong tree Z24.

So, let me get this straight. It is unbecoming of a man to refer to shrubbery innocently, but it is fine for a male to refer to himself as a long and big, unmovable tree? I swear you guys like to mess with me. Gladiola, you are not that tall, and I am 195 and not fat, unlike you.

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Posted : 06/20/2013 3:43 am

 

Thanks for your sexist comments Cam.

Sdro123 , I guess Z24 doesn't get it , I'm done with him and his childish comments he really has no idea who I am and he never will and if I EVER

meet him in person he will get a punch in the face , no one insults me. I'm guessing he is about 5 foot 7 160 pounds vs me 6 foot 4 210 pounds

your barking up the wrong tree Z24.

So, let me get this straight. It is unbecoming of a man to refer to shrubbery innocently, but it is fine for a male to refer to himself as a long and big, unmovable tree? I swear you guys like to mess with me. Gladiola, you are not that tall, and I am 195 and not fat, unlike you.

Not that i have any intention of getting myself involved in your conversation but i find it too funny to not comment on it.Why do huge people (>6 2")think they can fight anyone? I have a friend who's 5 4".To compensate for his size he has a black belt in martial arts.Also he is a master fencer. He could probably knock you out in what 3 seconds? (Because he knocks me out in 2 seconds LOL and i'm 5 10")

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Posted : 06/20/2013 7:02 am

A fair point well made, whilst saying that i doubt camaroz knows anything about martial arts, although i'm sure he'll try to spin us a yarn about his illustrious fighting past. Notice the lack of mention of height in his retort! knowing camaroz he would of relished proving Gladiatoro wrong by saying "ha i'm 6 foot tall" a glaring omission, concrete evidence that camaroz is in fact a short arse.

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Posted : 06/20/2013 7:27 am

A fair point well made, whilst saying that i doubt camaroz knows anything about martial arts, although i'm sure he'll try to spin us a yarn about his illustrious fighting past. Notice the lack of mention of height in his retort! knowing camaroz he would of relished proving Gladiatoro wrong by saying "ha i'm 6 foot tall" a glaring omission, concrete evidence that camaroz is in fact a short arse.

So you want to get involved do you? I was 180cm with flat sneakers. I have lost 1-2 inches. Gladys is no where near the size he mentioned Chiquita. I don't talk rubbish, so I was not going to mention my average height to someone obviously lying.

 

 

Please feel free to interject bud (Perseverance); you are a sufferer like everyone else here. Most people find discussions involving Glad quite funny. As far as primers go on this chap; he claims to have been hurt by Accutane, and he subsequently hates all pharmaceuticals. Paradoxically, he is very liberal with DHT inhibitors, despite the obvious contraindication for Accutane victims. We have urged him not to use the stuff. Apparently, back in the day he rocked quite the bouffant. His shrubbery isn™t as epic as it once was, hence the violence.

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Posted : 06/20/2013 7:49 am

Been reading this thread for quite awhile and noticed recently that it's getting a bit off topic. As riveting as the attacks may be, and my desire to grab the popcorn grows, I suspect the simple corn my cause my accutane induced brain fog to increase :)

At least we can say from the last few pages that accutane doesn't have a strong negative on testosterone levels :D

Been suffering from accutane damage for nearly twenty years (1993-1994 were the years I was put on it) and only recently came to realise it was accutane all along (suspected of course, but never believed). You can call me slow but living in this brain fog hell doesn't make you... um... think straight? I've got alot of physical issues, much the same as everyone else, but it was the mental changes that were insane (ha! I still managed a pun!)

Anyway, over the last few months I've been supporting iherb employees with my multiple orders and have tudca arriving from another source any day now. I'm trying all different things.

Over the years I've narrowed down the majority of my problems to my liver so I was naturally getting close to the cause. After trying liver flushes and getting alot of calcification out, it struck me that something had definitely damaged my liver. 1+1=2... well in the life of accutane, 1+1=dnfsn.... but in the end, this is when accutane became my focus.

I've found that nearly all vitamins/herbs/pills have little to no effect, and while I don't think tudca is the cure, I suspect it may allow my body to final metabolise such nutrients to the point that the damage will be healed. All speculation of course but will keep everyone updated.

Really appreciate everyone who has kept this thread going, including IndigoRush whose struggle reminded me of my own. I've got to the point in my life that much of the anger is gone, rather, I'm just sad that 20 odd years of my life are basically wasted.

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 06/20/2013 8:28 am

 

Been reading this thread for quite awhile and noticed recently that it's getting a bit off topic.

I've found that nearly all vitamins/herbs/pills have little to no effect, and while I don't think tudca is the cure,

Welcome aboard Sasquire. Now, your profile picture deserves the top gong. I would like to say it trumps furry bears and seahorses, but who knows what people will infer? You have a minor point with the aforementioned. I think we would be way more off topic, if we didn't attempt to curb all the DHT inhibitor love. You are right about all the vitamins/herbs/pills doing very little.

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Posted : 06/20/2013 10:34 am

why do you think your liver is damaged, sasquire?

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(@acne1776)

Posted : 06/20/2013 10:45 am

anyone having sexual dysfunction has "post finasteride syndrome" I was just diagnosed by a top doctor at Johns Hopkins. Not sure where to go from here but rick simpson oil looks promising if it is made properly

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(@gladiatoro)

Posted : 06/20/2013 10:59 am

 

Thanks for your sexist comments Cam.

Sdro123 , I guess Z24 doesn't get it , I'm done with him and his childish comments he really has no idea who I am and he never will and if I EVER

meet him in person he will get a punch in the face , no one insults me. I'm guessing he is about 5 foot 7 160 pounds vs me 6 foot 4 210 pounds

your barking up the wrong tree Z24.

So, let me get this straight. It is unbecoming of a man to refer to shrubbery innocently, but it is fine for a male to refer to himself as a long and big, unmovable tree? I swear you guys like to mess with me. Gladiola, you are not that tall, and I am 195 and not fat, unlike you.

My background is in Tae kwon do , and Judo , i've been in more street fights than you can think of , my true height is 6 foot 4 and my weight is

210 pounds not trying to brag but I once fought three guys at once and won and they were all roughly my size one of the guys I fought I broke

his jaw after about a 15 minute battle they took off as they discovered that they could not win even with the use of a steel bar I was a bloody

mess but I recovered , those are all facts , I like to watch UFC and MMA as a hobby , so Z24 you really shouldn't piss me off , and hiding

behind your computer is what nerds do .

Accutane has taught me a lesson on pharmaceuticals and there effects on the body , I got a good taste of modern medicine , a lesson well

learned now I spend my time warning people of the dangers of orthodox medicine another hobby if you will , but Z24 I was never as dumb as

you and went on two courses of the poison hence my much reduced side effects , I said this before but really what kind of no mind goes on two

courses of accutane one would think after the first course you would have realized that you were being severely poisoned but Z24 you are the

smart one not , what you lack is something I have in droves , common sense.

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Posted : 06/20/2013 11:19 am

On 6/20/2013 at 11:45 PM, acne1776 said:

anyone having sexual dysfunction has "post finasteride syndrome" I was just diagnosed by a top doctor at Johns Hopkins. Not sure where to go from here but rick simpson oil looks promising if it is made properly

I was just talking about you the other day. Perhaps you need to the cut the following:

'So basically SWIM's frequent use of opiates could lead to ED and lowered testosterone levels, even at once or twice a week?"

"Also SWIM notices that his food takes forever to digest while under the influence of opiates which seems like it could effect nutrient absorption and possibly inhibit muscle growth as a result. More importantly SWIM can't cum for at least an hour no matter how kinky or amazing sex is, & when he does it isn't nearly as intense or pleasurable as it is while not under the influence of opiates as fantasian mentioned."

Read more: [Edited link out]

@Gladiola: Yes, you fought 3 dudes at once, and you went berserk at a tane user the other day, that wanted advice. You never told him you hang around this place like a thug recommending DHT inhibitors all day long.

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Posted : 06/20/2013 11:33 am

On 6/20/2013 at 11:59 PM, gladiatoro said:

My background is in Tae kwon do , and Judo , if been in more street fights than you can think of , my true height is 6 foot 4 and my weight is

210 pounds not trying tobrag but I once fought three guys at once and won and they were all roughly my size one of the guys I fought I broke his

jaw after about a 15 minute battle they tookoff as they discovered that they could not win even with the use of a steel bar I was a bloody mess

but I recovered , those are all facts , I like to watch UFC andMMA as a hobby , so Z24 you really shouldn't piss me off , and hiding behind

your computer is what nerds do .

Accutane has taught me a lesson on pharmaceuticals and there effects on the body , I got a good taste of modern medicine , a lesson well

learned now I spend mytime warning people of the dangers of orthodox medicine another hobby if you will , but Z24 I was never as dumb as

you and went on two courses of the poisonhence my much reduced side effects , I said this before but really what kind of no mind goes on two

courses of accutane one would think after the first course youm would have realized that you were being severely poisoned but Z24 you are the

smart one not , what you lack is something I have in droves ,common sense.

Do you wear a tapout shirt too? [Edited image out]

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Posted : 06/20/2013 12:54 pm

You're a beast, Gladio.

FYI, making Rick Simpson oil would be unnecessary if (hypothetically) one were to purchase it on Silk Road with Bitcoin. SWIM investigated the logistics and safety involved and found them favorable.
The above paragraph could be referring only to jurisdictions where the oil is legal, and moreover is written in the subjunctive mood, ie irrealis.
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Posted : 06/20/2013 1:07 pm

anyone having sexual dysfunction has "post finasteride syndrome" I was just diagnosed by a top doctor at Johns Hopkins. Not sure where to go from here but rick simpson oil looks promising if it is made properly

Yeah, tell SWIM he is on the right path.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6249575

 

Abstract

Marihuana and its constitutents delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol (delta 9-THC) and cannabinol (CBN) were tested for their ability to interact with the androgen receptor in rat prostate cytosol. Smoked marihuana condensate, delta 9-THC, and CBN inhibit specific binding of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) to the androgen receptor with a dissociatin constant of the inhibitors (Li) of 2.1-5.8 X 10(-7)M. in addition, other metabolites of delta 9-THC were also androgen antagonists. This data suggests that the anti-androgenic effects associated with marihuana use results, at least in part, from inhibition of androgen action at the receptor level.

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(@movingon)

Posted : 06/20/2013 5:32 pm

Does this seem like bullshit or is it just me? lol

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my bullshit meter is in overdrive.

 

 

 

On 6/20/2013 at 9:44 AM, camaroz28 said:
On 6/20/2013 at 8:04 AM, sdro123 said:

Thanks for your sexist comments Cam.

I have no intention to dissect this latest, unfair criticism levelled against me. I was imploring Glad to stand on his own 2 feet and actively join the discussion, instead of acting inline with more classic femininity which sometimes has encompassed passive-aggressive tendencies - sheesh. Can someone please recommend the new "cure."

annnnnddd case in point with the sexism and stereotyping. thanks

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(@oli-girl)

Posted : 06/20/2013 8:01 pm

anyone having sexual dysfunction has "post finasteride syndrome" I was just diagnosed by a top doctor at Johns Hopkins. Not sure where to go from here but rick simpson oil looks promising if it is made properly

What did he diagnosis you with? Just sexual dysfunction? Did he give you a reason?

 

anyone having sexual dysfunction has "post finasteride syndrome" I was just diagnosed by a top doctor at Johns Hopkins. Not sure where to go from here but rick simpson oil looks promising if it is made properly

What did he diagnosis you with? Just sexual dysfunction? Did he give you a reason?

 

Sdro123 I am not home yet, buy holy shit! Where did you run across that! I'll have too look into it when I get back lol! Got me curious on who this physician is and uhh I don't remember his name in the past!

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Posted : 06/20/2013 8:25 pm

On 6/21/2013 at 9:01 AM, oli girl said:
On 6/20/2013 at 11:45 PM, acne1776 said:

anyone having sexual dysfunction has "post finasteride syndrome" I was just diagnosed by a top doctor at Johns Hopkins. Not sure where to go from here but rick simpson oil looks promising if it is made properly

What did he diagnosis you with? Just sexual dysfunction? Did he give you a reason?

He has obviously used a plethora of shit; you expect a straight answer out of SWIM? SWIM is probably drowning. He also intends to use another antiandrogen.

On 6/21/2013 at 6:32 AM, sdro123 said:

Does this seem like bullshit or is it just me? lol

[Edited link out]

my bullshit meter is in overdrive.

On 6/20/2013 at 9:44 AM, camaroz28 said:
On 6/20/2013 at 8:04 AM, sdro123 said:

Thanks for your sexist comments Cam.

I have no intention to dissect this latest, unfair criticism levelled against me. I was imploring Glad to stand on his own 2 feet and actively join the discussion, instead of acting inline with more classic femininity which sometimes has encompassed passive-aggressive tendencies - sheesh. Can someone please recommend the new "cure."

annnnnddd case in point with the sexism and stereotyping. thanks

I was imploring him to break down classic stereotypes. I am more for a highly fluid performing of feminine gender (yes, everything is a performance). The important point Steph is: All the major protagonists here are way more dangerous than helpful. I said this at the beginning. And, for the record I was raised by underpaid and very smart feminists who loved me dearly. Your accusations will never stick.

On 6/21/2013 at 12:33 AM, dave6677 said:

Do you wear a tapout shirt too? [Edited image out]

You sir have swagger, but, of course, you already knew that; at this end that joke killed.

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Posted : 06/20/2013 8:42 pm

 

anyone having sexual dysfunction has "post finasteride syndrome" I was just diagnosed by a top doctor at Johns Hopkins. Not sure where to go from here but rick simpson oil looks promising if it is made properly

What did he diagnosis you with? Just sexual dysfunction? Did he give you a reason?

 

>anyone having sexual dysfunction has "post finasteride syndrome" I was just diagnosed by a top doctor at Johns Hopkins. Not sure where to go from here but rick simpson oil looks promising if it is made properly

What did he diagnosis you with? Just sexual dysfunction? Did he give you a reason?

 

Sdro123 I am not home yet, buy holy shit! Where did you run across that! I'll have too look into it when I get back lol! Got me curious on who this physician is and uhh I don't remember his name in the past!

He just confirmed that sexual dysfunction caused by accutane is post finasteride syndrome because they are both 5 alpha reductase inhibitors

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Posted : 06/20/2013 9:00 pm

He just confirmed that sexual dysfunction caused by accutane is post finasteride syndrome because they are both 5 alpha reductase inhibitors

You are on the ball son. I have always maintained that all 5@ reductase inhibitors are dangerous. You must have been living under a rock. The infamous Chico thinks they are safe; I actually had to lecture him on this point. Despite all your experimenting and damage incurred, you have come here to recommend more antiandrogen therapy.

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(@movingon)

Posted : 06/20/2013 9:24 pm

On 6/21/2013 at 9:01 AM, oli girl said:
On 6/20/2013 at 11:45 PM, acne1776 said:

anyone having sexual dysfunction has "post finasteride syndrome" I was just diagnosed by a top doctor at Johns Hopkins. Not sure where to go from here but rick simpson oil looks promising if it is made properly

What did he diagnosis you with? Just sexual dysfunction? Did he give you a reason?

On 6/20/2013 at 11:45 PM, acne1776 said:

>anyone having sexual dysfunction has "post finasteride syndrome" I was just diagnosed by a top doctor at Johns Hopkins. Not sure where to go from here but rick simpson oil looks promising if it is made properly

What did he diagnosis you with? Just sexual dysfunction? Did he give you a reason?

Sdro123 I am not home yet, buy holy shit! Where did you run across that! I'll have too look into it when I get back lol! Got me curious on who this physician is and uhh I don't remember his name in the past!

I was rampantly scouring the internet for curing accutane related hair loss and stumbled upon it. wanted to see what u guys and gals thought

just an updated. 2 weeks on iodine and i feel amazing...i'm over the hump of draining mucus from my head, and now i can breathe all of a sudden...i smelled nature the other day and it brought me to tears. I have next to no joint pain and I don't need to drink as much water. fucking loving life. no negative side effects, but i need to be careful not to overdo it. also, moisture in my skin and eyes! still have scalp issues though. apple cider vinegar has calmed the burning and inflammation though. seeing a derm next month to get a scalp biopsy. :) i'll give up my hair for no joint pain. not that vain, but it'd be nice to have hair too.

On 6/21/2013 at 12:19 AM, camaroz28 said:
On 6/20/2013 at 11:45 PM, acne1776 said:

anyone having sexual dysfunction has "post finasteride syndrome" I was just diagnosed by a top doctor at Johns Hopkins. Not sure where to go from here but rick simpson oil looks promising if it is made properly

I was just talking about you the other day. Perhaps you need to the cut the following:

'So basically SWIM's frequent use of opiates could lead to ED and lowered testosterone levels, even at once or twice a week?"

"Also SWIM notices that his food takes forever to digest while under the influence of opiates which seems like it could effect nutrient absorption and possibly inhibit muscle growth as a result. More importantly SWIM can't cum for at least an hour no matter how kinky or amazing sex is, & when he does it isn't nearly as intense or pleasurable as it is while not under the influence of opiates as fantasian mentioned."

Read more: [Edited link out]

@Gladiola: Yes, you fought 3 dudes at once, and you went berserk at a tane user the other day, that wanted advice. You never told him you hang around this place like a thug recommending DHT inhibitors all day long.

Newsflash, Marijuana is NOT an opiate. It is in a class all it's own.

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Posted : 06/20/2013 9:30 pm

Newsflash, Marijuana is NOT an opiate. It is in a class all it's own.

Newsflash: I knew that. They are both antiandrogens. He was talking about Kratom and others; they are still antiandrogens. Kratom was recommended here by Gladys recently.

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Posted : 06/20/2013 10:03 pm

Lol. This is what happens when someone is raised by feminists. Explains so much.

WHile I have no opinion on Saw Palmetto, I doubt very much there's any evidence that marijuana has a permanent sexual side effect / hair loss profile similar to finasteride or Accutane. If it did, we'd have heard about it by now.

So most likely, it is safe to take, unless unpleasant brain fog or reduced libido / motivation results, in which case switch strains, use less or discontinue.

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Posted : 06/20/2013 10:08 pm

WHile I have no opinion on Saw Palmetto, I doubt very much there's any evidence that marijuana has a permanent sexual side effect / hair loss profile similar to finasteride or Accutane. If it did, we'd have heard about it by now.

More great advice from the dummy. Go to Propeciahelp and talk your nonsense. They will hand your ass to you like I have so many times. The people here already have permanent sides.

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