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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 04/27/2013 6:13 am

All you do is showing off with fancy words that don't offer anything to anyone. Bet, no one even reads it. I definitely won't. Won't reply to any of your childish posts, either.

Oh really; is that so? I can tell you that one of the avid readers here, referred to my witticism as tasty treats amongst other things. Things have escalated; Im still inconsolable about the jerk comment. I will take a break for a week; if Gladys stops outrageously arguing the anti-androgen herbs are safe, I will not be back. Im all about factualism, witticism and a sprinkle of panache. Im not really on the go peddle. And, dont tell me you have never worn a push-up bra to show off, or embellish a smidge. Out.

 

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Posted : 04/27/2013 7:43 am

GOOD. Go and work on your social skills.

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Posted : 04/28/2013 9:26 am

Hallelujah we have peace on this forum again . Good riddance to you Z24.

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Posted : 04/28/2013 9:03 pm

LOL you guys are hilarious. The comments are so on point though. Everyone else has elicited such inspiration in me, minus the obvious one who needs to use big words to feel important and target other people's intellect to feel better. 20 bucks he'll keep commenting though..

So you are in Cancun

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Posted : 04/29/2013 7:47 pm

Seriously...Im starting to believe its pointless to try and tell people on this site how bad accutane is because they dont want to believe it, hell I didnt believe it until I experienced it myself.

People believe what they wantto believe.

just a little piece of random info to lighten the mood: I read an article on the worlds official oldest woman, who lived to be almost 127 (documented case, there are those who claimed much older but cant prove it). This lady says among other things, she ate a lot of olive oil, cooked with it rubbed it onher skin, drank red wine and ate 2 lbs of chocolate a week. I could deal with the chocolate part.

I think dryness can only be helped by anti-inflammatory oils, whether fish oil flax, borage evening primrose etc. I usually take flax oil and eat walnuts every day, I think its helped the dry eye but I never had anything as severe as some of you who took this stuff for months.

But it's the dryness that is at the root cause of all physical symptoms if we can't address that then what hope do we have?

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(@oli-girl)

Posted : 04/29/2013 10:20 pm

On 4/30/2013 at 8:47 AM, AuguriesofInnocence said:

Seriously...Im starting to believe its pointless to try and tell people on this site how bad accutane is because they dont want to believe it, hell I didnt believe it until I experienced it myself.

People believe what they wantto believe.

On 4/23/2013 at 7:34 PM, Livetoregret said:

just a little piece of random info to lighten the mood: I read an article on the worlds official oldest woman, who lived to be almost 127 (documented case, there are those who claimed much older but cant prove it). This lady says among other things, she ate a lot of olive oil, cooked with it rubbed it onher skin, drank red wine and ate 2 lbs of chocolate a week. I could deal with the chocolate part.

On 4/23/2013 at 7:34 PM, Livetoregret said:
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I think dryness can only be helped by anti-inflammatory oils, whether fish oil flax, borage evening primrose etc. I usually take flax oil and eat walnuts every day, I think its helped the dry eye but I never had anything as severe as some of you who took this stuff for months.

But it's the dryness that is at the root cause of all physical symptoms if we can't address that then what hope do we have?

Yep I been around Acne.org for 5yrs at least and well they are going to eat thier poision! I've read some having severe side effects and refuse to quit! [Edited image out]

However, I am always there/here when all hell breaks loose I just wait [Edited image out]

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Posted : 04/29/2013 10:52 pm

You know what the worst part of it is? Aside from all the horrors people esperience, most of the time the acne returns after accutane. So, basically people have destroyed their health all in vain.

I know there was a time when I thought, "if I only had clear skin I could handle anything" ha, yeah funny, that ...

On 4/30/2013 at 11:20 AM, oli girl said:
On 4/30/2013 at 8:47 AM, AuguriesofInnocence said:

Seriously...Im starting to believe its pointless to try and tell people on this site how bad accutane is because they dont want to believe it, hell I didnt believe it until I experienced it myself.

People believe what they want to believe.

On 4/23/2013 at 7:34 PM, Livetoregret said:

just a little piece of random info to lighten the mood: I read an article on the worlds official oldest woman, who lived to be almost 127 (documented case, there are those who claimed much older but cant prove it). This lady says among other things, she ate a lot of olive oil, cooked with it rubbed it onher skin, drank red wine and ate 2 lbs of chocolate a week. I could deal with the chocolate part.

On Invalid Date at NaN:NaN PM, Livetoregret said:
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I think dryness can only be helped by anti-inflammatory oils, whether fish oil flax, borage evening primrose etc. I usually take flax oil and eat walnuts every day, I think its helped the dry eye but I never had anything as severe as some of you who took this stuff for months.

But it's the dryness that is at the root cause of all physical symptoms if we can't address that then what hope do we

have?lockquote>

Yep I been around Acne.org for 5yrs at least and well they are going to eat thier poision! I've read some having severe side effects and refuse to quit! [Edited image out]

However, I am always there/here when all hell breaks loose I just wait[Edited image out]

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Posted : 04/30/2013 12:56 am

One more thing...I got mononucleosis, and I believe it is from a lowered immune system. I feel like myoverall enegry level is lowered...I never used to take naps, now I am sometimes falling asleep by betweeen 1-3 pm. I go to bed around 9-9:30, I used to be a night owl and never went to sleep before 12. I feel like for a woman of my age (31) I have a very low level of energy. Of course when I had mono I slept most of the day but I still dont feel completely recovered.

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Posted : 04/30/2013 9:23 am

Every time I see Accutane mentioned online, I have to jump in and warn them. I feel like one of those super religious people that goes door to door trying to save people's souls. And, of course, the people treat me like one of them and slam the door in my face.

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Posted : 05/01/2013 8:04 pm

Everything going according to plan at the new job. Experimenting with increasing my 1000 calorie limit from 1L yoghurt per day to 1.5L. Had one fatigue day due to trying some storebought yoghurt with emulsifier, apparent histamine inflammation reaction, luckily it happened on my day off. Seems to have been limited to 1 day effect so far. Anyway doing fine most of the time. Not great e.g. high energy but fine. Focused and disciplined.

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Posted : 05/02/2013 1:17 pm

Take my Negative Accutane Experiences survey:

 

I'm trying to get as much information as I can about why we were affected and what some of the most common issues are.

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Posted : 05/04/2013 6:35 pm

On 2/8/2013 at 12:37 PM, gladiatoro said:

A little info about lithium orotate , worth the read.

[Edited link out]

Hi, I was wondering how the Lithium Orotate is going? Any other related information at this time?

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Posted : 05/04/2013 9:15 pm

On 5/5/2013 at 7:35 AM, CHIRON said:
On 2/8/2013 at 12:37 PM, gladiatoro said:

A little info about lithium orotate , worth the read.

[Edited link out]

Hi, I was wondering how the Lithium Orotate is going? Any other related information at this time?

Hey , Chiron , I took it for a while about a month or so , it did seem to be good for my mood but it also made me sleepy whenever I took it , not

the best side effect but if I were you I would give it a try . So now I switched to 5- HTP , haven't taken it long enough to see benefits but a lot of

people like it and it's all natural so that's why I'm trying it , 5-HTP is short for its longer name: 5-Hydroxytryptophan. It is a natural compound

that is produced by your body which acts as a precursor to the important "happiness" neurotransmitter called serotonin and the "sleep"

hormone melatonin.

Here is a link. (=

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035931_5-HTP_depression_anxiety.html#ixzz2SNcTG88P

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(@rivladoo)

Posted : 05/05/2013 9:33 pm

Hello,

just a simple idea that I had...

so accutane is actually not vitamin A, its very close but if you look at the chemical composition its has some differences. I'm thinking the body uses it as vitamin A but it can't do the job of vitamin A since its different. I know we are trying to avoid vitamin A but did anyone here try to supplement with vitamin A ?

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(@auguriesofinnocence)

Posted : 05/05/2013 9:54 pm

Ive just filled out the on-line form for the FDA reproting suicidal thoughts and all the other stuff Ive had from accutane. So the bastards can add me to the "1%" who gets that "rare" side effect . Sarcasm here...

I have been feeling extremely tired lately. Im wondering if this is a side effect of accutane at such a small dose?

I took it August of '12...since taking this drug Ive had one health problem after another starting with the depression, followed by ear/vision problems and now have extreme fatigue. Im 31 years old and I feel like Im 81. I never took naps or had afternoon crashes, now I am in bed by 9. Im addicted to caffiene. Also Im getting another sore throat, constand sinus problems with sore throat. I think accutane has lowered my immunity and Im catching every danmed germ/virus which comes along. God if Id taken a "normal" dose I think Id be dead by now.

I really shouldnt think like this cause theres no point, just saying I hardly got sick before this nightmare.

At least Im not suicidal anymore.

the kind of funny part is when I have a sore throat I sound like Minnie Mouse. People think Im a small child on the phone.

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(@oli-girl)

Posted : 05/05/2013 10:02 pm

Hello,

just a simple idea that I had...

so accutane is actually not vitamin A, its very close but if you look at the chemical composition its has some differences. I'm thinking the body uses it as vitamin A but it can't do the job of vitamin A since its different. I know we are trying to avoid vitamin A but did anyone here try to supplement with vitamin A ?

I think somone posted something about supplementing with Vit A or cod liver. I wouldn't do it! Accutane is a derviative of Vit A. Some do okay with beta form and eating certian beta Vit A foods, others can't tolerate Vit A period after Accutane. Accutane is crazy, there is a old suffer who was acutally deficent the only way he could tolerate Vit A was by IV to bring his levels up.

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(@gladiatoro)

Posted : 05/05/2013 10:23 pm

I have been feeling extremely tired lately. Im wondering if this is a side effect of accutane?

I took it August of '12...since taking this drug Ive had one health problem after another starting with the depression, followed by ear/vision problems and now have extreme fatigue. Im 31 years old and I feel like Im 81. I never took naps or had afternoon crashes, now I am in bed by 9. Im addicted to caffiene. Also Im getting another sore throat, constand sinus problems with sore throat. I think accutane has lowered my immunity and Im catching every danmed germ/virus which comes along. God if Id taken a "normal" dose I think Id be dead by now.

I really shouldnt think like this cause theres no point, just saying I hardly got sick before this nightmare.

At least Im not suicidal anymore.

Try wild oil of oregano drops a bottle is only about 25 bucks or so and it will last you months worth every penny , this will help your immune

system , make sure it's wild it's the most potent and yeah accutane damages the immune system among other things , there is no doubt about

that. Our body's have been weaken by this poison for sure there is absolutely no question about that.

And check out my link.

http://curingherbs.com/wild_oregano_oil.htm

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 05/06/2013 12:33 am

*looks up at last comment and earns 20 bucks*

You are back; I thought I was going to have to send

@Auguries: I have been wanting to say this for a while; but, you are such a sweet lady and you have been through so much that I didn't want to say anything. Please, get off the remaining DHT inhibitor(s) you are taking if you want to feel like yourself again. If it is curbing your acne, it's exerting anti-androgenic effects. I understand, if you can't bring yourself to do it.

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Posted : 05/06/2013 8:04 am

thanks, I will look into this. I am open to herbs and other natural stuff.

 

I have been feeling extremely tired lately. Im wondering if this is a side effect of accutane?

I took it August of '12...since taking this drug Ive had one health problem after another starting with the depression, followed by ear/vision problems and now have extreme fatigue. Im 31 years old and I feel like Im 81. I never took naps or had afternoon crashes, now I am in bed by 9. Im addicted to caffiene. Also Im getting another sore throat, constand sinus problems with sore throat. I think accutane has lowered my immunity and Im catching every danmed germ/virus which comes along. God if Id taken a "normal" dose I think Id be dead by now.

I really shouldnt think like this cause theres no point, just saying I hardly got sick before this nightmare.

At least Im not suicidal anymore.

Try wild oil of oregano drops a bottle is only about 25 bucks or so and it will last you months worth every penny , this will help your immune

system , make sure it's wild it's the most potent and yeah accutane damages the immune system among other things , there is no doubt about

that. Our body's have been weaken by this poison for sure there is absolutely no question about that.

And check out my link.

http://curingherbs.com/wild_oregano_oil.htm

Mentally i feel Ok now no more depression/anxiety. Im just physically exhausted and have below normal energy. Can anti-DHt supplemenst make you more tired? Im not using them to recover from accutane Im using them for PCOS, wondering why you say get off them isnt DHT a bad hormone, especially in females?

 

*looks up at last comment and earns 20 bucks*

You are back; I thought I was going to have to send you a bouquet of pansies, hypericum, roses and gladi.well, you know what I mean. When I mocked you on the word choice, I was actually mocking you mocking me on my word choices. Its silly to think we can rigorously police the demarcation line dividing supposedly fancy and mundane words. I guess you guys have to beat me into submission somehow.

@Auguries: I have been wanting to say this for a while; but, you are such a sweet lady and you have been through so much that I didn't want to say anything. Please, get off the remaining DHT inhibitor(s) you are taking if you want to feel like yourself again. If it is curbing your acne, it's exerting anti-androgenic effects. I understand, if you can't bring yourself to do it.

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Posted : 05/06/2013 11:50 am

Auguries

Well, the rhetoric stipulating DHT is the greatest scourge the human body has had to deal with is just that - rhetoric. It is just fodder pedaled by the snake oil salespeople that effectively are the pharmaceutical giants; and, even worse, the outright manipulations the supposed healthy alternative practitioners of the world, would have you believe. DHT is fundamentally physiologically required by the body. Is DHT all sugar and spice? No, it is not. You are not just quelling DHT levels (with saw palmetto and Spironolactone), but you are also preventing other androgens from expressing themselves at the receptor site. The following is from Wikipedia: However, 5-reductase inhibitors are thought to have persistent side effects that can continue after quitting the treatment, including diminished libido, erectile dysfunction and male breast cancer,[13][14] and are suspected to have persistent cognitive side effects, including depression,[15] brain fog and memory loss.[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone

There is a major brouhaha brewing over at Propeciahelp.com for a reason. You should go there and read some of the literature they have amassed as to the importance of DHT. No one there will tell you the natural equivalents of the pharmaceutical poison are anything to be complacent about.

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Posted : 05/07/2013 9:47 am

This doesn't surpise me one bit. Ah yes Big Pharma they are on there way out. Run for the cure ..... more like run from the poison lol...

http://www.naturalnews.com/040230_cancer_research_false_conclusions.html

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Posted : 05/07/2013 1:47 pm

dont worry Im not keen on trying any more drugs :-)

Ill have to think about my options, my main problem with DHT is the fact that I must be super sensitive to it with the PCOS diagnosis (I had very oily skin and extra hair growth, not on my head... if I didnt have those symptoms I probably wouldnt worry about it one way or the other.) I am willing to quit the pills but will keep on taking spearmint.

Auguries

Well, the rhetoric stipulating DHT is the greatest scourge the human body has had to deal with is just that - rhetoric. It is just fodder pedaled by the snake oil salespeople that effectively are the pharmaceutical giants; and, even worse, the outright manipulations the supposed ˜healthy™ alternative practitioners of the world, would have you believe. DHT is fundamentally physiologically required by the body. Is DHT all sugar and spice? No, it is not. You are not just quelling DHT levels (with saw palmetto and Spironolactone), but you are also preventing other androgens from expressing themselves at the receptor site. The following is from Wikipedia: œHowever, 5±-reductase inhibitors are thought to have persistent side effects that can continue after quitting the treatment, including diminished libido, erectile dysfunction and male breast cancer,[13][14] and are suspected to have persistent cognitive side effects, including depression,[15] brain fog and memory loss.[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone

There is a major brouhaha brewing over at Propeciahelp.com for a reason. You should go there and read some of the literature they have amassed as to the importance of DHT. No one there will tell you the natural equivalents of the pharmaceutical poison are anything to be complacent about.

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Posted : 05/07/2013 10:12 pm

oil of oregano is legit. you can get a good bottle from whole foods for about 20 bucks. Ive been using it for years now. it may increase dehydration, but paradoxically it works wonders for me in terms of giving moisture to my eyes, helping digestion (go to bathroom), joint pain relief, clears sinuses and throat (all bacterial/immunity BS). It got rid of my geographical gross tongue thank god. looked like i had some plague on my mouth...probably do! anyways, try it in very small amounts. I havnt even needed to increase more than one drop with the essential oils brand since it is very concentrated. Drink a lot of water while on it, and take breaks every once in a while.

Also, latest development on my hair, is jojoba oil works to hydrate the scalp. I have noticed less breakage and less hair falling out. hypothesizing that since my scalp is just so darn dry, the scalp was literally flaking the hair off. jojoba gets deep in the scalp,...feels amazing. not sure if its a cure, too early to tell, but definitely good for symptom management and decreasing itching associated with dryness. also a fungicide! WEIRD. I think my body is basically a petri dish. Yay. GO ACCUTANE for killing immunity!

Lastly, EXERCISE. even if it's literally doing 5 crunches, walking to get mail, or touching your toes...DO IT. I've just been doing a physical therapy regimen for weak butt and back, and i have felt sooo much better. I need to consistently maintain it, but has helped my overall well-being ten fold, including my self-esteem.

Really lastly, SUN. Get your natural vitamin D, not that BS from bottles that they call vitamin D. I notice the difference right away after being in the sun for 5 minutes. endorphins yay!

Finalmente, Don't work in mental health like me. It is bad news bears. It's really the only factor that I think has been depleting my resources.

Pet cats. they're awesome.

 

 

Can anyone give a brief list of core supplements that are proven to work for us peeps? I know what works for me...but i kind of want to decrease my supplement load as much as possible since i think my body struggles to even absorb them. ones that i know for a fact that have worked for me are:

HA -epicly mobile joints if i drink enough water with it

Salmon oil - insulation, increased temperature regulation, some joint relief

Glutamine - muscle mass

*Biotin---i believe it makes my nails stronger..but hard do say if it's directly the biotin.

glucosamine, chondroitin, collagen--not as good as HA.

Garlic - decreases dehydration, balances blood sugar

Oil of Oregano/MMS - kills pathogens, bacterial infections and increases oxygenation in the body

*gluten free has alleviated any psychological symptoms...do not get brain fog, better digestion, and better energy overall.

I have not noticed a difference with supplementing with anything else.

What has definitely worked for you all in the way of symptom management/relief?

oil of oregeno I haven't tried that! Do you mix it with something or take it straight? Glad to hear things are going good!

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Posted : 05/07/2013 11:53 pm

 

oil of oregano is legit. you can get a good bottle from whole foods for about 20 bucks. Ive been using it for years now. it may increase dehydration, but paradoxically it works wonders for me in terms of giving moisture to my eyes, helping digestion (go to bathroom), joint pain relief, clears sinuses and throat (all bacterial/immunity BS). It got rid of my geographical gross tongue thank god. looked like i had some plague on my mouth...probably do! anyways, try it in very small amounts. I havnt even needed to increase more than one drop with the essential oils brand since it is very concentrated. Drink a lot of water while on it, and take breaks every once in a while.

Also, latest development on my hair, is jojoba oil works to hydrate the scalp. I have noticed less breakage and less hair falling out. hypothesizing that since my scalp is just so darn dry, the scalp was literally flaking the hair off. jojoba gets deep in the scalp,...feels amazing. not sure if its a cure, too early to tell, but definitely good for symptom management and decreasing itching associated with dryness. also a fungicide! WEIRD. I think my body is basically a petri dish. Yay. GO ACCUTANE for killing immunity!

Lastly, EXERCISE. even if it's literally doing 5 crunches, walking to get mail, or touching your toes...DO IT. I've just been doing a physical therapy regimen for weak butt and back, and i have felt sooo much better. I need to consistently maintain it, but has helped my overall well-being ten fold, including my self-esteem.

Really lastly, SUN. Get your natural vitamin D, not that BS from bottles that they call vitamin D. I notice the difference right away after being in the sun for 5 minutes. endorphins yay!

Finalmente, Don't work in mental health like me. It is bad news bears. It's really the only factor that I think has been depleting my resources.

Pet cats. they're awesome.

 

 

Can anyone give a brief list of core supplements that are proven to work for us peeps? I know what works for me...but i kind of want to decrease my supplement load as much as possible since i think my body struggles to even absorb them. ones that i know for a fact that have worked for me are:

HA -epicly mobile joints if i drink enough water with it

Salmon oil - insulation, increased temperature regulation, some joint relief

Glutamine - muscle mass

*Biotin---i believe it makes my nails stronger..but hard do say if it's directly the biotin.

glucosamine, chondroitin, collagen--not as good as HA.

Garlic - decreases dehydration, balances blood sugar

Oil of Oregano/MMS - kills pathogens, bacterial infections and increases oxygenation in the body

*gluten free has alleviated any psychological symptoms...do not get brain fog, better digestion, and better energy overall.

I have not noticed a difference with supplementing with anything else.

What has definitely worked for you all in the way of symptom management/relief?

oil of oregano I haven't tried that! Do you mix it with something or take it straight? Glad to hear things are going good!

Wild oil of oregano is potent stuff , but it's a super herb indeed , I take a couple of drops and then drink a glass of water , it bites hard but it works

I had sinus problems too and it cleared them up in a week , truly amazing stuff , it also seems to increase my energy at work so that's another

bonus .

Garlic relieving dehydration that's a new one for me , but I like garlic in my food so I'll up the ante on that one.

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Posted : 05/08/2013 12:32 pm

lol I could never work in a mental hospital...when I was there for a week, there were two basic types, average people who were haing crises or breakdowns (like myself) and those unfortunate people who are truly gone...I had a schizophrnic woman sharing my room, she hardly spoke but she would giggle and laugh in the middle of the night a nothing. Still creeps me out.

oil of oregano is legit. you can get a good bottle from whole foods for about 20 bucks. Ive been using it for years now. it may increase dehydration, but paradoxically it works wonders for me in terms of giving moisture to my eyes, helping digestion (go to bathroom), joint pain relief, clears sinuses and throat (all bacterial/immunity BS). It got rid of my geographical gross tongue thank god. looked like i had some plague on my mouth...probably do! anyways, try it in very small amounts. I havnt even needed to increase more than one drop with the essential oils brand since it is very concentrated. Drink a lot of water while on it, and take breaks every once in a while.

Also, latest development on my hair, is jojoba oil works to hydrate the scalp. I have noticed less breakage and less hair falling out. hypothesizing that since my scalp is just so darn dry, the scalp was literally flaking the hair off. jojoba gets deep in the scalp,...feels amazing. not sure if its a cure, too early to tell, but definitely good for symptom management and decreasing itching associated with dryness. also a fungicide! WEIRD. I think my body is basically a petri dish. Yay. GO ACCUTANE for killing immunity!

Lastly, EXERCISE. even if it's literally doing 5 crunches, walking to get mail, or touching your toes...DO IT. I've just been doing a physical therapy regimen for weak butt and back, and i have felt sooo much better. I need to consistently maintain it, but has helped my overall well-being ten fold, including my self-esteem.

Really lastly, SUN. Get your natural vitamin D, not that BS from bottles that they call vitamin D. I notice the difference right away after being in the sun for 5 minutes. endorphins yay!

Finalmente, Don't work in mental health like me. It is bad news bears. It's really the only factor that I think has been depleting my resources.

Pet cats. they're awesome.

Can anyone give a brief list of core supplements that are proven to work for us peeps? I know what works for me...but i kind of want to decrease my supplement load as much as possible since i think my body struggles to even absorb them. ones that i know for a fact that have worked for me are:

HA -epicly mobile joints if i drink enough water with it

Salmon oil - insulation, increased temperature regulation, some joint relief

Glutamine - muscle mass

*Biotin---i believe it makes my nails stronger..but hard do say if it's directly the biotin.

glucosamine, chondroitin, collagen--not as good as HA.

Garlic - decreases dehydration, balances blood sugar

Oil of Oregano/MMS - kills pathogens, bacterial infections and increases oxygenation in the body

*gluten free has alleviated any psychological symptoms...do not get brain fog, better digestion, and better energy overall.

I have not noticed a difference with supplementing with anything else.

What has definitely worked for you all in the way of symptom management/relief?

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