Acne.org Products
Hi Rocky, i can understand your skepticism, I was shocked when Actinac was discontinued about 3 years ago. Every year hundreds of effective products are discontinued due to market forces. While you and I might consider millions of pounds to be a goldmine, massive pharmaceutical companies like Aventis do not. Pharmaceutical companies only exist to make money of people; the fact that they might be helping people, easing suffering is only a by-product of their business, not the reason for their existence.
Let me give you another example. You might think if company invented a hair-loss drug that was FDA approved it would make billions and billions. Well, there is a FDA approved hair-loss drug called Propecia that works for many people, however the company is not making billions from it because only 1% of men will bother enough to take it and deal with some of its side-effects.
I do agree with you that a smaller pharmaceutical company could do very well with Actinac, if they could get the patent. I checked it up and Roussel still owns the patent even though they are now part of the Aventis group. Maybe Aventis do have some big plan for it down the line but I couldn't wait any longer and had to do something about it. Thatas when I came across "compounding" and knew it might be the answer.
[removed]
Here's info from a study of Actinac:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...2&dopt=Abstract
and look at:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...1&dopt=Abstract
from the 2nd link it looks like the actinac would be just as affective or moreso without the steroid in it! idk though, maybe i'm reading it wrong.
If the product had to be discontinued, it obviously had something wrong with it. Think about it.
In Europe, most, if not all, bleaching creams are outlawed, mainly because hydroquinone had been clinically founded to be dangerous - whereas in the USA and other continents, especially Asia and Africa (where bleaching creams are big biz) no strong scientific data has been recorded to show how dangerous bleaching creams really are. Or maybe there has been research but no-one really cares because no-one should really care - which only further proves why the UK is the best. Like, check it!
Judging from the Americans on this board, it's obvious that US health regulations, funded on the "bling bling" basis, with derms only interested in conning patients into buying crap containing snail slime which ultimately doesn't work, have scant regard for the duty and welfare of their patients.
Why bother going to Harvard just to qualify for being a useless, carrot-nosed asshole and writing tedious essays compiling "The Art of Adding A to Z" when you can attain more credit, cash and fame being a fisherman, fooling onlooking wayfarers scanning the stacks for a "devil-flavoured, shaft-jawed Rasputin Delight" in the deepest darkest circles of Borneo's upcoming fish markets?
On closing note, no-one in their right mind would allow the discontinuation of a product knowing they could enrich their lives with the gold from Fort Knox without having to slave away at Hooters for the next up-coming decade.
Hopefully, they'll be supplying hairnet muffs for the right reasons this time ...
Hi Aysia, first of all just because a product is discontinued that doesn't mean there must have been something wrong with it. We live in a capitalist society, if something doesn't sell enough, or if it seems too risky, it will not be made. That's it.
Frankly, your response seems to be a little too trusting of the powers that be, you don't know why actinac was discontinued. Neither do I, really. But I have tried searches and I all saw was praise for this product. And of course I have used the product before to great benefit.
I can't even imagine that if it were found to be harmful, that that would be a reason to be pulled. Look at the potential side effects of accutane for example, joint swelling, liver damage, suicide?
The actinac was very cheap, and I only used it once. Maybe this was happening with a lot of people and they weren't making enough money. I don't know.
Impossible! If Actinac worked that well, there is no way Roche (who I heard holds the licence to Actinac) will not spend the $$$ to actively promote the product to customers. There was an argument somwhere in these posts that the reason Actinac failed was because Derms never prescribed the stuff thinking that it will end there profession since Actinac worked so well. If this were true, Roche could just actively promote directly to consumers and therefore driving the products demand, not through Derms, but rather through patients. Therefore, I do not believe Actinac can be such an effective topical cream as many people claim it to be.
Well it did work for me and I don't think I have wildly different skin from everyone else. I can't claim the 99% number that someone else in this thread does (can't remember who). But even if the number was much lower say even 50%, that's still a lot of acne sufferers that it helps. BP doesn't work for me, but it does for a lot of other people. But even for the people it does work for, it only works in combination with other therapies, the right soap, other topicals, oral antibiotics, etc.
I almost wish that there was some really negative thing about it, because then I wouldn't want to use this stuff so much ](*,)
Ok guys, here's some stuff i just found out:
When i went to the site http://femail.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/sh...ation.asp?id=23 it said that Peckforton is the manufacturer of Actinac. So i went to their website, and e-mailed them for additional information on the product. Here's what they said:
Thanks for your message. We are the Licence Holder of Actinac in the UK and I can confirm to you that the product has not been discontinued. It is still available on prescription from your Doctor.
I thought everyone said it was discontinued???? What's up with that?
Once upon a time, women in Europe used to bath in the blood of young virgins because they assumed it would grant them eternal beauty. They used to slather themselves in makeup which contained lead and were ultimately poisoned to death.
Now, thanks to the wonders of modern technology, we all know old wives' tales are indeed as preposterous as the cress growing out of Tommy Lee's pants!
I don't know what this has to do with anything here but it really should have something to do with something. The point I'm trying to make is that sometimes we need to reflect upon our goals because people are prone to folly. We have had too many hit-and-run trials to have come this far today and even then, can we really say we have all the answers? I stand highly dubious.
If Actinac was a product that met stringent health criteria, it would have been widely popularised by now.
I mean, it's only somewhere like America or China which would allow a product that would give you disabled children. I want to see reliable long-term studies which prove this product is the biz so at least I can take my disabled children to the cinema and buy them some ice-cream!
That saying, Actinac users will probably get scaly skin and blow noodles out of their nose in, like, a decade. Oh yes.
Lol at least we know what's on Aysia's christmas list 
I think I know where my old derm is. he's the one who prescribed it for me lo those many years ago. maybe there was something wrong. I will make sure to ask him. It might take a while though, he's pretty far away from me, and i'm pretty lazy. I'll update when I can.
As someone who works in the pharmaceutical industry, I'd like to ask everyone to hold off a bit on bashing the industry (although I do my fair share). If it's a drug for which there is no alternative and treats or prevents a life-threatening situation, the FDA will not allow it to go off of the market.
Although I have no experience with Actinac the best hope would be for some derm-focused pharma company to buy the rights to the drug so that it could be produced in mass quantity.
IN reading an article about the compounding of this drug, it does state that each tube of mixed material (powder and cream suspension) is only stable for 21 days. With short expiration dating, I'm sure that there are good reasons, although probably it's an issue of microbial infection. The preservative in the suspension is probably not that strong and will only keep microbial count down for 21 days. I would strong recommend not using it after that date because we all know the horrors of adding bacteria to our faces.
I'm going to call some of my industrial pharmacist friends and see what they say about this and the prospect of compounding. Compounding is usually not a very controlled process (you'd be amazed by how regulated and controlled all pharmaceutical manufacturing is) and safety, purity, quality, and efficacy could vary from one tube to the next.
I've had cystic acne since I was 12 and I'm now 25. It's a nightmare: I"ve tried Accutane twice and every prescription drug imaginable. I can't wait to do some more reading on Actinac.
I was prescribed actinac when I was 14 years old (1980) . It was the best thing ever, I used it every night, within a week my acne had cleared but I had to continue using it otherwise the acne was back. My skin was clear, I was confident. I cant believe its unavailable now, my son has the same problem and I was trying to find out if it was still on the market. I never had any side effects from this medication, yes it burned a little hence putting it on at night, it dried like a face pack and Id wash it off in the morning, whatever was left of it. Its miraculous and Id like to get my hands on it now.