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The answers I got from my doctor about hair loss

 
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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 08/10/2007 3:59 pm

Are you high Andy or am i missing something? lol, knowing me it's probably the later!!

 

I don't get it, man. Why would I be high? I mean, I wish I were. If anything I'm down.

 

So I continue to shed small hairs, but only about 5 a day. It's very depressing, but there are still many, many short hairs all over my scalp. I'm hoping that my diagram predicted this and that it will end in another week or so. My hair is looking better and better, I have to admit. And it feels thicker, too. I think 2 more months of regrowth, and I'll be OK. Which is insane.

 

But hopes are made to be dashed.

 

rudolph, im at in the exact same situation as you pretty much, i remember when you started taking it.. that was about the same time i started accutane .. u stopped after about 2 months cause of hairloss.. so did i. I currently am still shedding, but it seems to be mostly in the back and sides.. not much on top or in front. I try not to check in the shower.. cuase it bums me out.. but ill probably get 10-20 hairs throughout teh day when running my hands through my hair.. I do see a bunch of small hairs at the front.. not too many maybe 10... but maybe thats just the starting. I was also wondering when derms say it takes 6 months or so.. does that mean shedding stops after 6 months? or your suppose to have you old full head of hair after 6 months?

 

Shedding stops before month 6, according to the doctors. And regrowth starts after month 6. So you won't have your hair back until at least month 9.

 

 

I just didn't get your response to silver buddy, made no sense to me thats all!! Don't worry about 5 hairs bud, look at the bigger picture!! if your hair is thickening up, it will continue to do so....

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(@favre4)

Posted : 08/10/2007 5:04 pm

Is anyone elese noticing after 37 pages we're basically gettting an new 'generation' - for lack of a better term- of guys on this thread?

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(@sverd)

Posted : 08/10/2007 5:15 pm

Is anyone elese noticing after 37 pages we're basically gettting an new 'generation' - for lack of a better term- of guys on this thread?

And if we ever recover, this thread will pass on to the generations to come. Hallelujah.

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(@blazedjin)

Posted : 08/10/2007 5:19 pm

Aug. 23 will mark my 4 months post tane and Im still shedding hairs! This doesnt look good.. I was on it for only 2 DAMN months!

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 08/10/2007 5:41 pm

august 15th = 4 months shedding, 5 and a bit months post tane :) wwoooo

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(@sverd)

Posted : 08/10/2007 5:47 pm

Aug. 23 will mark my 4 months post tane and Im still shedding hairs! This doesnt look good.. I was on it for only 2 DAMN months!

Did you start shedding on or after accutane, because August 23rd will be exactly 4 months off of accutane as well and I started shedding during my second month and I was only on it for 7 weeks.

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(@blazedjin)

Posted : 08/10/2007 5:57 pm

Aug. 23 will mark my 4 months post tane and Im still shedding hairs! This doesnt look good.. I was on it for only 2 DAMN months!

Did you start shedding on or after accutane, because August 23rd will be exactly 4 months off of accutane as well and I started shedding during my second month and I was only on it for 7 weeks.

 

 

Yea I started to shed around the 2nd month of accutane as well.

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(@favre4)

Posted : 08/10/2007 6:02 pm

Is anyone elese noticing after 37 pages we're basically gettting an new 'generation' - for lack of a better term- of guys on this thread?

And if we ever recover, this thread will pass on to the generations to come. Hallelujah.

 

 

 

haha i feel like a pioneer...

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(@davidhatesacne)

Posted : 08/10/2007 6:51 pm

august 15-20 = 6 months post tane.

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(@archangel)

Posted : 08/11/2007 12:04 am

been off like 3 and a half months still shedding :(

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(@_andy_)

Posted : 08/11/2007 3:00 pm

The answers I got from my (hair) doctor, Part III

 

Well, I went to the "trichologist" today. He was relatively legit and caters to rich people (I am not rich, by the way). $150 a visit. Perhaps worth it, perhaps not.

 

His conclusion is that he sees regrowth, that my hair will regrow in the order in which it was lost (that is, over 3.5 months), and that I do have an element of MPB, but that it's barely a factor and in the very, very early stages. He sees a couple of miniaturized hairs, in other words. So if I take Propecia and keep using Rogaine, I should be fine. And he said I won't lose all my hair due to MPB because those who do lose all their hair start thinning in their teens.

 

Relatively reassuring and about what I expected to hear. But he does see regrowth, so I'm not crazy.

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(@davidhatesacne)

Posted : 08/11/2007 5:10 pm

my question about MPB is that it seems to take shape rather early in life and extend forever. is this correct? MPB seems to take a lot longer than TE to make you lose your hair.

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 08/12/2007 4:52 am

MPB is quite often so slow most men don't notice it for years...Your hair will fall out at a normal rate (or very close) and the hairs will simply keep regrowing at a more miniturised size, e.g. their diameter will keep getting smaller every time they grow in. Eventually they will stop growing when they have been made so small that the follicle cannot support them properly...

 

i think the age that it begins at can varey, but temples are often lost in the 20's then the crown is lost at a later stage (in general)

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(@_andy_)

Posted : 08/12/2007 1:53 pm

MPB is quite often so slow most men don't notice it for years...Your hair will fall out at a normal rate (or very close) and the hairs will simply keep regrowing at a more miniturised size, e.g. their diameter will keep getting smaller every time they grow in. Eventually they will stop growing when they have been made so small that the follicle cannot support them properly...

 

i think the age that it begins at can varey, but temples are often lost in the 20's then the crown is lost at a later stage (in general)

 

Yes, Mark is right. I didn't lose the hair I lost because of MPB. But I do have miniaturized hairs here and there. Just a few, but they are there. It's a slow process. And if you don't start thinning in your teenage years, then you won't lose all your hair.

 

My hair is getting thicker. And the cool part is that the regrowth I see is just the first wave. I should start regrowing more of my hair over the next 3.5 months - i.e., the number of months I shed. We will see. Add that natural regrowth to regrowth due to Rogaine and Propecia, and I should be set. I hope.

 

I'm slightly worried about the Propecia, though. My left boob doesn't hurt as much as it did the first time I tried it, but slight soreness comes and goes. I really don't want to grow boobs. For godsake.

 

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(@davidhatesacne)

Posted : 08/12/2007 2:23 pm

hmmm, then i don't think i have much to worry as far as mpb. even after losing hair for 6 months i have no receding and still have a really thick head of hair. my hair is exactly like my dads, in texture, and he's 55 with a really thick head of hair. maybe i'll be lucky and go in his footsteps.

 

still, though, i want to stop shedding so bad.

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 08/12/2007 4:16 pm

MPB is quite often so slow most men don't notice it for years...Your hair will fall out at a normal rate (or very close) and the hairs will simply keep regrowing at a more miniturised size, e.g. their diameter will keep getting smaller every time they grow in. Eventually they will stop growing when they have been made so small that the follicle cannot support them properly...

 

i think the age that it begins at can varey, but temples are often lost in the 20's then the crown is lost at a later stage (in general)

 

Yes, Mark is right. I didn't lose the hair I lost because of MPB. But I do have miniaturized hairs here and there. Just a few, but they are there. It's a slow process. And if you don't start thinning in your teenage years, then you won't lose all your hair.

 

My hair is getting thicker. And the cool part is that the regrowth I see is just the first wave. I should start regrowing more of my hair over the next 3.5 months - i.e., the number of months I shed. We will see. Add that natural regrowth to regrowth due to Rogaine and Propecia, and I should be set. I hope.

 

I'm slightly worried about the Propecia, though. My left boob doesn't hurt as much as it did the first time I tried it, but slight soreness comes and goes. I really don't want to grow boobs. For godsake.

 

 

 

You will be, both you and david are good to go, so will dolph ina few months...

 

My plan of action is when i hit the 6 month mark, if i haven't stopped shedding i need to start an anti DHT plan, i may try propecia at a very low dose e.g. 0.25mg a day and use topical spyronolactate(sp) may aswell add in rogain foam while im at it!! eitherway, i think i will be able to maintain a good head of hair that way, even whilst shedding...

 

i think the problem with this accutane hairloss is when it induces chronic TE in men, we keep shedding and over time the hairs that regrow become miniturized, so if i can prevent the dht from doing its job i will EVENTUALLY be ok...

 

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(@blazedjin)

Posted : 08/12/2007 9:51 pm

Hey, Im losing hairs that are thick and there are some that are thin that was caused by Accutane medications. Is this symptom of MPB? Also if I was on Accutane for only 2 months does the 6 months of hair shed still apply in this case? Thanks

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 08/13/2007 5:29 am

Yeah the 6 months still applys buddy, and you can't say for sure if its a symptom of MPB...

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(@sverd)

Posted : 08/14/2007 6:14 am

I'm trying not to be too optmistic about it but Ive shed a lot less hair the past 2 days.. Im expecting the worst though because last time I started getting optimistic my shedding got worse then ever the next day.

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(@davidhatesacne)

Posted : 08/15/2007 2:49 pm

well, i'm officially 6 months post tane and still losing hair. great. i think i'm just screwed.

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(@_andy_)

Posted : 08/15/2007 2:54 pm

well, i'm officially 6 months post tane and still losing hair. great. i think i'm just screwed.

 

How much are you losing? If you're losing 20 or less, you're fine. Even if you're losing more, give it another month.

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(@davidhatesacne)

Posted : 08/15/2007 2:59 pm

i loose however many i want, really. it's awful after i shower. if i just keep rubbing my head i keep getting hairs out and after the shower i have so many hairs fall down. this ONLY happens when i shower. throughout the few days i don't wash my hair, my hair falls out rarely and when i comb my hair i don't pull A LOT out. it's definately still shedding. it's driving me insane. i just relooked at your diagramm, and if it's correct, i should stop shedding around this point. maybe i'm one of the rare, unlucky ones that gets chronic TE. or i suppose it's possible that when i was getting really stressed out a few months ago i went into another stage of TE. who knows. i have another derm appointment in a week.

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 08/15/2007 5:18 pm

mine falls out 24x7 pillow, shoulders, shower, towel. You name it i shed it :D i quite often forget about my hairloss now and am just prepareing myself mentally for a gradual deterioration of my hair, if it stops then great but i mean i don't see that happening, it is shedding faster as the weeks go by...

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Posted : 08/15/2007 5:21 pm

Btw david, i often think whether some of this accutane induced shit isn't just "loose anagen hair syndrome" i mean it is normally only seen in young children but fuck knows what accutane can do to the body, yours has always sounded kinda like loose anagen syndrome to me mate, good news is that aslong as you don't manipulate your hair to much you won't have to much of a problem and it should resolve itself over time, you only wash rarely so this is probably why you have maintained a good head of hair!!...

 

Loose anagen syndrome

Loose anagen syndrome or loose hair syndrome involves exactly what the name suggests, growing hair that is "loose" and easily pulled out of the hair follicle. Loose anagen syndrome is most often first diagnosed in young children, more so in girls than boys. Their hair never seems to grow, they rarely need a hair cut, and the scalp hair is usually thin, especially at the back of the scalp.

 

That the hair is loose and easily pulled out helps explain why the back of the head is most affected. The repeated rubbing of a person's head on a pillow at night pulls out more of the hair on the back of the head, whereas the front of the scalp has less contact with the pillow and so the hair is more likely to remain in place. The remaining hair usually does not grow very long and it can be unruly and difficult to comb and style.

 

Blond-haired children ages 2 to 5 are most likely to be affected but loose anagen syndrome can appear later in life as well. The syndrome improves with age of its own accord in children, but development in older individuals indicates the hair loss will be more persistent.

 

Why the hair is loose is not known, but the root sheaths that normally surround and protect the hair shaft in the skin are not produced properly in people with loose anagen syndrome. As a result, there is a lack of adhesion between the hair shaft and the root sheath, and the hair fiber is poorly anchored in the follicle.

 

There may be a genetic problem behind the syndrome and the condition can run in families, but there are also many isolated case reports with no family history. There are no known effective treatments for loose anagen syndrome.

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(@blazedjin)

Posted : 08/15/2007 11:32 pm

How bad does your hair look like guys? When your hair is wet and is up can you see all the bald lines in between the hairs? What do you guys plan on doing if in the end you guys go bald?

I think I see some regrowth in the hairs that I lost before but Im still shedding just like how david was explaining his.

 

David are you on any hair meds?

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