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(@_andy_)

Posted : 07/26/2007 2:47 pm

favre4 said:
5 months and still shedding...

I don't want to be a crazy person, but I am curious. That diagram thing I made ( [Edited link out] ) - does it fit/predict anyone else's experiences?

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Posted : 07/26/2007 2:50 pm

_Andy_ said:
favre4 said:
5 months and still shedding...

I don't want to be a crazy person, but I am curious. That diagram thing I made ( [Edited link out] ) - does it fit/predict anyone else's experiences?

haha sorry andy but i'm a business major, not a rocket scientist...

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Posted : 07/26/2007 2:52 pm

favre4 said:
_Andy_ said:
favre4 said:
5 months and still shedding...

I don't want to be a crazy person, but I am curious. That diagram thing I made ( [Edited link out] ) - does it fit/predict anyone else's experiences?

haha sorry andy but i'm a business major, not a rocket scientist...

Is it really that complicated? If it is, then it's my fault. I like fancy diagrams. You don't have to answer this if you don't want to. But: how many months of Accutane did you take and when did you start shedding?

PS: I was a Literature major.

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Posted : 07/26/2007 3:23 pm

yeah, i tried looking at the diagram, but i'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say.

 

here, do it for me. i started shedding 4 months in then 2 weeks later i quit taking accutane. so i shed at the start of my fourth month, and took accutane another 2 weeks after the shedding started.

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Posted : 07/26/2007 3:36 pm

yeah, i tried looking at the diagram, but i'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say.

 

here, do it for me. i started shedding 4 months in then 2 weeks later i quit taking accutane. so i shed at the start of my fourth month, and took accutane another 2 weeks after the shedding started.

 

David, how long have you been shedding?

 

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Posted : 07/26/2007 3:53 pm

5ish months. i started shedding around the beginning of february.

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Posted : 07/26/2007 4:10 pm

davidhatesacne said:
5ish months. i started shedding around the beginning of february.

David. I made you a diagram. You can find it here: [Edited link out]

Let me know if it's still unclear. If I'm right, regrowth is right around the corner for you.

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Posted : 07/26/2007 4:17 pm

ah yes, i understand it pretty clearly now. if that's correct, then my shedding should also stop soon, correct?

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Posted : 07/26/2007 4:18 pm

ah yes, i understand it pretty clearly now. if that's correct, then my shedding should also stop soon, correct?

 

Yes, you should stop shedding soon. I think it's a pretty good theory. We'll see if I'm right, though.

 

By the way, did you lose short hairs? And were they about 2 to 3 centimeters long like my theory predicts?

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Posted : 07/26/2007 4:41 pm

i'd say 85-90% of the hair i lose is long hair, but there are some of that length that i lose. most of the time when i comb my hair i see a lot more 1in-2in hairs then i see in the shower, etc.

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Posted : 07/26/2007 8:58 pm

I can't be sure if your theory applys to me Andy, if it did though i'm correct in thinking i should shed for 3-4 months???

 

My shedding began a month after treatment and i did a 5 month course...

 

One factor your theory doesn't and can't account for is that everyones telogen length is different...

 

Oh and also one other thing i find interesting, is that after dolph spoke of loosing only the hairs that had clearly not grown. I have noticed most of the hair i loose isn't the length of the longer hairs on my head, most are shorter....

 

I don't go onto the accutane hairloss forums, but how many cases present themselves as constant hair shedding e.g. lupus or chronic telogen effluvium? Are most of them simply a case of 3-6 months of shedding then waiting for regrowth?

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Posted : 07/27/2007 8:31 am

I can't be sure if your theory applys to me Andy, if it did though i'm correct in thinking i should shed for 3-4 months???

 

My shedding began a month after treatment and i did a 5 month course...

 

One factor your theory doesn't and can't account for is that everyones telogen length is different...

 

Oh and also one other thing i find interesting, is that after dolph spoke of loosing only the hairs that had clearly not grown. I have noticed most of the hair i loose isn't the length of the longer hairs on my head, most are shorter....

 

I don't go onto the accutane hairloss forums, but how many cases present themselves as constant hair shedding e.g. lupus or chronic telogen effluvium? Are most of them simply a case of 3-6 months of shedding then waiting for regrowth?

 

Did you up your dosage at any point?

 

Mostly women shed for more than 6 months. I've seen some guys who say they'd been shedding for more than a year. But it's not clear at that point whether it's TE or CTE or lupus. The literature states that if shedding occurs for more than 6 months, then it's CTE.

 

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(@sverd)

Posted : 07/27/2007 8:53 am

when I hold my hair back I can see little hairs sticking up at the front of my hairline.

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Posted : 07/27/2007 8:58 am

when I hold my hair back I can see little hairs sticking up at the front of my hairline.

 

That's good, man. Now hold back all the other hair and look for the hairs that are sticking up. See if they're short. That's how I see my new hair (if it is new hair).

 

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Posted : 07/27/2007 11:38 am

I can't be sure if your theory applys to me Andy, if it did though i'm correct in thinking i should shed for 3-4 months???

 

My shedding began a month after treatment and i did a 5 month course...

 

One factor your theory doesn't and can't account for is that everyones telogen length is different...

 

Oh and also one other thing i find interesting, is that after dolph spoke of loosing only the hairs that had clearly not grown. I have noticed most of the hair i loose isn't the length of the longer hairs on my head, most are shorter....

 

I don't go onto the accutane hairloss forums, but how many cases present themselves as constant hair shedding e.g. lupus or chronic telogen effluvium? Are most of them simply a case of 3-6 months of shedding then waiting for regrowth?

The literature states that if shedding occurs for more than 6 months, then it's CTE.

 

 

that scares me as i'm 2 weeks from shedding for 6 months. what does CTE mean? do people with CTE go bald? : |

 

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Posted : 07/27/2007 12:14 pm

I can't be sure if your theory applys to me Andy, if it did though i'm correct in thinking i should shed for 3-4 months???

 

My shedding began a month after treatment and i did a 5 month course...

 

One factor your theory doesn't and can't account for is that everyones telogen length is different...

 

Oh and also one other thing i find interesting, is that after dolph spoke of loosing only the hairs that had clearly not grown. I have noticed most of the hair i loose isn't the length of the longer hairs on my head, most are shorter....

 

I don't go onto the accutane hairloss forums, but how many cases present themselves as constant hair shedding e.g. lupus or chronic telogen effluvium? Are most of them simply a case of 3-6 months of shedding then waiting for regrowth?

 

Did you up your dosage at any point?

 

Mostly women shed for more than 6 months. I've seen some guys who say they'd been shedding for more than a year. But it's not clear at that point whether it's TE or CTE or lupus. The literature states that if shedding occurs for more than 6 months, then it's CTE.

 

 

Yeah i did, several times, 45 mg for a month then 60 mg for a month then 80 for the final 3 months (well i discontinued 1 week short of 5 months)

 

And David CTE is Chronic Telogen Effluvium, it is said to be self limiting in the end... But you can shed for years... :S that plus lupus is what im worried about...

 

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(@favre4)

Posted : 07/27/2007 12:19 pm

i'm going on vacation be back in a month or so...

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 07/27/2007 12:55 pm

i'm going on vacation be back in a month or so...

 

 

Take it easy man, and have fun!!

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(@ron19)

Posted : 07/27/2007 2:13 pm

i'm going on vacation be back in a month or so...

 

enjoy it.. I am now got 3 days at home from the army and i can say it made me to almost forget the hair.. also i saw that my hair thinned almost the same on my whole head with no frontal recession but my tempels did got some recession. so it can't be tipical mpb.. i lost my side hair and some in the back of the head as well.. perheps it is chronic for me..hope it will be full by next year or so..

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Posted : 07/27/2007 2:20 pm

[Edited link out]

Mark's (lamarr1986's) diagram.

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Posted : 07/27/2007 3:20 pm

Thanks mate, the numbers aren't 100% accurate no, my derm didn't do whole months at one dose, and i think they could well be closer to even like you say... The diagram is actually very fitting, i noticed the significant regrowth exactly two months after i began shedding (i could see and feel the difference in the space of a week) i am still seeing new regrowth aswell, so your diagram could fit very well....

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Posted : 07/27/2007 3:44 pm

_Andy_ said:
[Edited link out]

Mark's (lamarr1986's) diagram.

stop it man... there is no sure time fore the telogen to be present after accutane... i read a girls story that is the same as mine... and her hair didn't realy grew after 10 monts post the shed...

im 7 months into the shed now..:(

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 07/27/2007 4:01 pm

True ron, but If it is just a standard case of TE, which some of us may be going through. The theory may apply...

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Posted : 07/28/2007 9:36 am

True ron, but If it is just a standard case of TE, which some of us may be going through. The theory may apply...

 

You are right.. i hate this hair loss... i realy realy hope it will regrow some time soon for us.. my whole scalp is see thru not just the top.. i hate it:)(almost 8 months now and 2 post shedding decreased and no real regrowth! only intermediate hairs which sheding after some time as well!

oh wish i have my full hair back as it was a year ago...

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Posted : 07/28/2007 10:25 am

Is this true?

 

"Yes, Accutane can accelerate MPB by prompting the growth of new, crappier hairs after the old, good ones are shed. MPB is a function of time. One does not progress toward MPB with each new cycle, but generally through one's lifespan. In other words, at a specific age."

 

Im having a hard time understanding this as it seems to contradict itself. She said yes it can accelerate mpb because it jumps the hair ahead a cycle. But then she says that hair cycles do not matter and one only pregresses towards mpb as they age.

 

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