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21 hours ago, jcbdigger365 said:So with that in mind I started ful in caveman regime nothing touches face at all an attempt for my skin to heal itself perhaps and also cutting dairy and all other inflammatory foods.
I would be careful with not washing your face. I tried this without weening off of cleansers and I developed seb derm on my face. It's very mild now after years of trying to get my skin healthy, but still present. I originally thought it was dry flaky skin.
I believe it was because I had an imbalance of skin flora, and the excess oil let the yeast to thrive.
On 3/26/2018 at 6:44 AM, silverlight22 said:Accutane is mostly used to treat gram negative pustules. So if you suffer from those (like me) then you can stay on accutane. However, these pustules can be staph related in other cases and using accutane increases staph reservoir in nostrils which can again cause similar pustules.Does your lotion keep your mouth 100% clear of these putusles?
No, it does not help 100 %. But I do still consider it a victory. It depends on your goals. Before using the lotion I had 3-6 active pustules every day and constant itching made it even worse. Now I get a pustule about once 2 or 3 days, and it's, well, different. By saying different I mean that it does not itch as it used to and it's smaller. So for me it is a victory as I can live normally despite couple pustules. But if you'r looking for miracle cure that would make your face 100% clear - it's probably not this lotion.
P.S. I don't have staph and antibiotics do nothing for me. I tried caveman regimen - didn't work as well. Food does matter - but for "normal" acne that I get sometimes, that's why I'm on paleo diet (just without fruits) for years now, but for pustules around mouth food does not matter at all (again - for me).
On 13/04/2018 at 1:26 PM, Husky124 said:No, it does not help 100 %. But I do still consider it a victory. It depends on your goals. Before using the lotion I had 3-6 active pustules every day and constant itching made it even worse. Now I get a pustule about once 2 or 3 days, and it's, well, different. By saying different I mean that it does not itch as it used to and it's smaller. So for me it is a victory as I can live normally despite couple pustules. But if you'r looking for miracle cure that would make your face 100% clear - it's probably not this lotion.P.S. I don't have staph and antibiotics do nothing for me. I tried caveman regimen - didn't work as well. Food does matter - but for "normal" acne that I get sometimes, that's why I'm on paleo diet (just without fruits) for years now, but for pustules around mouth food does not matter at all (again - for me).
where do you get your serum/lotion from? Was it a case of trial and error that you found it to work or is there some sort of scientific backing to it? And is it the only thing you depend on to manage the condition?
im really happy for you that youve managed to get to where you are now. I too would consider a small pustule every few days a big victory and would be more than happy to live with it for the rest of my life. Right now I still get 3-5 new pustules everyday. Hope I can be in the same position as you soon...
I get this serum at a pharmacy that not only sell regular drugs, but also "make" by themselves. I know that in my country only one type of pharmacy do that. Maybe you could call pharmacies in your town and ask if they could make this lotion by the ingredients, or maybe ask your dermatologist about it.
I don't have any scientific proof why it works (probably one of the ingredients or mix of them do the trick). It may as well be that it "works just for me", but might not help others. I also have no idea why pustules appear only around mouth and nowhere else (very rarely near eyebrows) - it is a mistery for me to this day.
The lotion was prescribed for me by my dermatologist when I had "normal acne" together with roaccutane. "Normal acne" ofcourse returned after some time, but I manage to control it by eating paleo diet (just without fruits) - i don't know why but i get "normal acne" if I eat any type of carbs. The problem with pustules appeared after some time and I was looking for anything that could help for couple years - then I remembered this lotion that I was prescribed years before, so i went to the same dermatologist when i was on roaccutane and asked for lotion. It helped, why? I have no idea. Nothing else does. And i don't care what's the scientific explanation - I've already spent too many hours searching for it in the internet with no avail.
Hello I made this account just to tell you . How I cured mine.
Brief History i've been in long term antibiotics and isotretinoin too but this little creepers keep coming back jsut around the mouth and in the chin.sometimes in nose creases.
I've suffered for around 3-4 years with this condition.
and for the past months I can say I've discovered what is triggering it.
for 4 months now I am acne free.
AVOID THESE 3 AT ALL COST.
No 1. FRUITS! and Fructose containing items (honey etccc.)..
No.2 Toothpaste with Sulfate and Flouride. (Mouthwash too avoid it)
No.3 Probiotics
I basically avoided the three and I finally can say Im cured.
I am not taking any supplements except that I drink psyllium husk fiber with water once a day!
and i drink a lot of water throughout the day.
I hope this helps.
On 4/19/2018 at 6:46 AM, BumpyMascara said:Hello I made this account just to tell you . How I cured mine.
Brief History i've been in long term antibiotics and isotretinoin too but this little creepers keep coming back jsut around the mouth and in the chin.sometimes in nose creases.
I've suffered for around 3-4 years with this condition.
and for the past months I can say I've discovered what is triggering it.
for 4 months now I am acne free.
AVOID THESE 3 AT ALL COST.
No 1. FRUITS! and Fructose containing items (honey etccc.)..
No.2 Toothpaste with Sulfate and Flouride. (Mouthwash too avoid it)
No.3 ProbioticsI basically avoided the three and I finally can say Im cured.
I am not taking any supplements except that I drink psyllium husk fiber with water once a day!
and i drink a lot of water throughout the day.I hope this helps.
You haven't had any fruit in 4 months?how long did it take to see results and can u list a typical day of eating?
I eat a lot of fruit. At least 5 a day sometimes 10.
On 4/27/2018 at 6:17 PM, Thinker5 said:I really feel the only way to combat this is through topical probiotics that are specific to each individual.
I'm testing out Mother Dirt AO+ probiotic spray right now. Does not eliminate the pustules for me, but definitely has helped my overall skin health and pustules that do show up seem much smaller.
I'll keep testing for 3 months at least and give a full review.
6 hours ago, Thinker5 said:I hate this crap.It's constant anxiety and mentally exhausting. Can you really manage something that evolves? I think we are all dealing with persister cells, which cause chronic infections.
Have you tried coloring the pustules in with a purple or brown sharpie pen? It seriously helps my anxiety and really helps to cover them up.
On 3/18/2018 at 5:43 AM, gilang91 said:i know it is too late to post here. but for anyone who suffered from this hellish thing, please read my post. I FOUND A CURE,
i saw the poster on the first post and i tell you that was a way milder than my problem. i have the same problem but worse than yours, tiny white pus all over my mouth chin and bearded area, and it is spreading to all the hair follices i have on my beard. it is very disgusting and my brother told me it is like alien was laying egg on my face.it destroys my self esteem. make me feel i don't deserve to live. i know exactly what you feel guys, because this disease is not like a normal pimple, it is very destroying, itchy and uncomfortable feel.
i am 26 yo asian men, with very oily skin and acne prone. i have beard and i shave regullary.
i remember i started getting this when i was on my 2nd grade of high school. and at that point i was still natural little boy with no course of medication/antibiotic. so i think it has nothing to do with antibiotic drawback.
the very first medication i had was trimetoprim sulfametazole, its kind of antibiotic, and i take it for a couple of months, the pills did control the infection but when i started to take off everything going back to what it was before.
then i go to dermatologist and he prescribe me with clyndamicyn, he told me this was bacterial infection. and i agree with him because it responds well to antibiotic.i take it for about 2 weeks, its doing great on my skin and when the pills ran out like any other antibiotic, the infection start again.
i think clyndamicyn didn't work. so i decide to take doxycycline. doxy did wonder on my skin, all the pus has gone and my skin look so smooth and flawless. but when i take off of this med, the infection back much worse. the worst breakout of my life is when i finish my doxy course.
i tried water only method, thinking that maybe it is related to the chemical on my face wash, but my idea is wrong, water metod only gives me dry skin with lots of dead skin cells and only make my breakout even worse.
i bought so many skincare product from the cheap ones to the expensive ones. some of them work and some of them ends up as a ornament on my desk. the only thing i haven't try yet is accutane. maybe i will take my accutane course next year. because this year i want to focus on dermaroler treatment to heal my pitted scars on my cheek left by the young age acne i had. i heard that after you take accutane, you should wait for at least 3 month before starting dermaroller. because your skin is very weak due to accutane. so i decided to try dermaroller first.
it is going to be a long post. but please read this, we got same problem and we are seeking for solution here. maybe my experience can help you. i truly understand how this disease destroy lifes. but believe me it is treatable.
the only thing i think work to stop the infection (based on my experience):
1. blue light therapy. i did it several time when i was on college, it realy control the infection and make that fucking pus disapear in one night, right after treatment. it soothe the skin and kills bacterial deep within your pores, where other medication can't penetrate. so it make sense. but it is costly, and it is temporary solution. you have to do the light once per two week. i think i better stop because it damaging my wallet. the result was great tho.2. washing your face with gentle antibacterial cleanser and apply propolis and garlic extract on the infected areas. i did this method when i was frustated with my condition. had to save money. it helps drying up pus but it takes time. about two week and you will see the pus started to dry and peel as you wash your face.
3. and the holy grail item is..
i don't know how to say it.
it is some kind of ointment or serum i get from one of aestethican clinic in my city. this serum is my life saver. the only think that work to control the pus and the price is affordable. it is liquid and smells like onion. now i am in my 2nd years of this serum and i cannot get off of it. i use this serum until now. because i think its the only think to work now.
but everything has a price. i need to use it forever. yes forever. because when i am not using it for about two week. the infection started again. but not worse. i know it seems like a dangerous things. but the doctor told me there was no sterioid and antibiotic on that ointment. and i can use it as long as i need. so i feel less worried. now this ointment is my life saver. it makes everything disapear in just three days. i think i will stick to it for a while. i know it is not the ultimate solution to cure my problem. but at least it's saving my life now. because my bearded area is clear now.
unfortunately you might not be able to get this ointment in your city. but there is hope.to end my post. i think i would say that this disease is very reccurent. and you should treat it for whole of your life. because we and maybe all the dermatologist out there does not know what is the root of this nightmare. and for now. i would stick to something that work to atleast i would say cure it temporary. but without getting into your system like pills did.
hope this help. sorry for bad english.
@gilang91 how that serum is working for you, this thing around my mounth ruined my life, don't no what to do. I'm using nadoxin cream from past 8 months but no use. Plz suggest solution it's getting worst every day.
On 23/6/2018 at 12:29 PM, Alladin#$@ said:@gilang91 how that serum is working for you, this thing around my mounth ruined my life, don't no what to do. I'm using nadoxin cream from past 8 months but no use. Plz suggest solution it's getting worst every day.
i decide to visit the clinic tomorrow. i hope i can find information about the ingredients from the doctor.
and for anyone who still don't know what to do. i suggest u use cosrx bha blackhead power liquid. it is great product to eliminate acne. it work very well on my skin.
helo guys i visit the clinic today. i've ask the doctor about the active ingredient of my serum. and i was shocked. it was SULFUR. yes it was SULFUR all this time..
no antibiotic, no steroid, it is SULFUR... the doctor also told me that i can use it forever, it is save even for pregnant women.
now you can try sulfur ointment and see if its work for you.
Hey everyone! I literally just made this account so that I can share what I've been doing to treat this. I might even go as far as to say that I have found a cure for this. My acne is pretty similar to the OP, I get painful and itchy pustules around my mouth, chin and nose creases, which would feel like erupting at any given time.
To get to the point, I've been using ANTIFUNGAL CREAM to treat my acne. I'd probably even self diagnose my skin condition to be folliculitis caused by yeast/fungus.
So about a week ago, I happened to come across a post where people claimed to have reduced their acne by using dandruff shampoo, which are mainly antifungal. After a bit of researching I finally decided to use a tube of prescribed antifungal cream (Lortiderm Corticosteroid, 1% clotrimazole, and 0.05% betamethasone) lying around in my bathroom. I applied it 2-3 times a day and I saw effects in 2 days!! Today is my 5th day of use and I have not had any pustules since the 2nd day of use. I am not sure what will happen if i stopped using it, but I really am overjoyed being able to find something that can alleviate me from this stupid acne that has plagued me for years.
I'll try to add more to my post, and explain what I've had to deal with later on when i have time. Anyways, I really hope this willl help you guys!
Hi everyone,
I also just registered here to share my experience and hopefully the cure. I had the same problem
Anyway and anyhow, this could have two problems as a root cause.
Tinea Barbae
Fungal infection. In medicine, it is called as Tinea Barbae, which means that you have fungal on your skin. The best way is to take scrapings and affected hairs should be sent for mycology, keep in mind that false negative results are not uncommon. In this case you should go with antifungal treatment.
Folliculitis barbae: Was my problem
It Is a bacterial infection of the hair follicle, usually caused by Staphylococcus Aureus. Lesions are seen in the bearded area, often involving the skin under the nose and chin, as erythematous follicular-based papules or pustules that may rupture and leave a yellow crust. To diagnose this, you should go with a swaps which should be positive.
Basically, to start a treatment, you should skip shaving as much long as you can and start with Benzoyl Peroxide and/or local antibiotic creams. If you want to avoid any product you can use sage tea or any other antibacterial nature oil. If you see improvements you have found your root-cause.
Ask yourself a question when did you clean your razor last time? I did not clean mine (electrical) and I immediately throw it away. Also, if you want to speed up your process (when you realized it was bacterial infection) go with some oral antibiotics.
All about folliculitis.
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Thanks for your very helpful inputgilang91.
I have suffered with whiteheads on my face for 25 years and had no idea sulfur could combat the bacteria in the pores which causes this. Ive tried everything topicals, antibiotics etc.
After doing some reading i bought the following products:
[De La Cruz 10% Sulfur Ointment](leave on for 10 minutes in the morning after my shower)
[Keep it Clean - 10% Sulphur Soap](used after work)
its only been 3 days since ive started to use these products and its made a huge difference to my face. Its like magic!
Posting this so hopefully it will help others too.
On 7/20/2018 at 3:29 PM, Silverinca said:Thanks for your very helpful inputgilang91.
I have suffered with whiteheads on my face for 25 years and had no idea sulfur could combat the bacteria in the pores which causes this. Ive tried everything topicals, antibiotics etc.
After doing some reading i bought the following products:
[De La Cruz 10% Sulfur Ointment](leave on for 10 minutes in the morning after my shower)
[Keep it Clean - 10% Sulphur Soap](used after work)
its only been 3 days since ive started to use these products and its made a huge difference to my face. Its like magic!
Posting this so hopefully it will help others too.
Hey man, it seems my approach is starting to become less effective now. So, I'm looking for ways to combat myfolliculitis, and I'm wondering, is your skin problem similar to the original poster's? If so, I might look into purchasing the sulfur ointment you're using.
Hey guys I just wanted to share, after a little more digging, that people have been able to clear folliculitis very successfully through laser hair removal. It's definitely an option for me, but I see it as a last resort. If you guys are very insistent on getting this problem under control then I think it may be your best bet. Basically the process involves destroying hair follicles which stops sebum production, thereby starving the bacteria or fungus that causes the folliculitis. This is different from other methods of treatment since it doesn't involve the use of chemicals that can also kill good flora on your skin, which may well be one of reasons for this skin problem--->As someone on this thread has already mentioned, I feel that it is the imbalance of skin bacteria (from antibiotic use) that is causing this issue for many people, rather than an infection caused by some foreign microorganism that has infested on our faces. If that is the case, then the only othersolution I see is to rebalance our skin bacteria using facial probiotics, which, for the time being, don't exist. (AFAIK)
--If you guys also see laser hair removal as a last resort then you can keep reading below:
Another possible reason(based on my past acquired knowledge and not from recent researching) for this skin condition is an imbalance (dysbiosis) in our intestinal flora,(again due to antibiotic use...) which can be rebalanced with probiotics. And I'm sure a lot of people might be saying: "Ok, ill just go to the nearest drug store to purchase some probiotics!". HOWEVER!I'm honestly certain that is not the correct approach in resolving the issue. You literally have no idea which type of bacteria has been compromised in your gut, so you may not see any desired effects or just be making things worse. The only effective approach is to have your gut microbiome analyzed. And then find the correct probioticto rebalance. (I haven't done much researching on how to get this procedure donesince I've been really tight on time, but I will update later when possible)
Hello guys! I have been having the same issue for many years, however it got worse in 2017.
A few days ago I was diagnosed with small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) following a fructose/lactose hydrogen breath test. This means the body has issues with any type of sugar (and high carbs in general) due to overgrowth of bacteria in the small intestine. I note that many people in this thread described that the issue is worse after consumption of any fructose containing items (sugar, fruit, honey) and milk (which of course contains lactose sugar). I found that this is also what triggers it for me. Along with high carbs such as bread.
The internist prescribed the following:
- Metronidazol antibiotics: 400 mg 3 times a day for 10 days
- Perenterol Forteyeast: 250 mg 2 times a day for 50 days
- Symbio Lact Comp probiotics: 2 g 1-2 times a day for 6 months
Taking the antibiotics every 8 hours, and yeast+probiotics togetherin between.
I will update on how that goes...
Perhaps it is worth that you also get your gut tested and particularly make afructose and lactose hydrogen breath test or MRI.
Another thing: Do you guys consume or have consumed a lot of artificial sweeteners (e.g. in "light" soft drinks, juices, whey products)? For me the issue got worse when I started to have many supplementsincluding Aspartam, Acesulfam-K,Sucralose. Although I stopped using these over a year ago, the issue is still present, however I am thinking that it might have caused or worsened the SIBO in the first place.
[fungalacne] dude my whiteheads are exactly like gilang1's, except mine are mostly on my nose and sides of my nose, sometimes on my cheeks.
I now use the soap morning and night, and will use the ointment when needed to target a specific area. So far so good, its been a week and am mostly 80% clear. Give it a go
I have been using de la cruz sulfur for 5 years. It's good but not the cure. But when i started using it with BP, it cleared me up.
I basically wash face first, put on BP 2.5%, then sulfur and then vaseline ontop to lock it in. Wash face in the morning. My cleanser also contains 5% BP so all in all these 2 together should help. I still get pustules maybe 3 or 4 a week but not like crazy how it used to be before. Some weeks my mouth is completely clear.
I also found 2 posts by 2 different guys on curezone.
They had pustules all over their scalp for 6 years or so but both used a shampoo which contains sulfur+benzoyl peroxide+salicylic acid and it cleared their pustules.
However, the shampoo they used were veterinary shampoos for dog or cats but it still worked. Here are the posts attached. If anyones going insane and nothing will work, maybe washing your face with it is worth it.
I also have daily whiteheads caused by yeast after using tetracycline antibiotics for acne for 3 years. The worst thing is I no doctors will even acknowledge it, despite the whole whiteheads saga starting a matter of days after stopping the antibiotics.
Anyone know what this is called? Does it even have a name?
Malassezia folliculitis is about the closest thing I have found, but it seems to produce red bumps more than whiteheads. This whitehead aspect seems like a very specific issue to people who have been on long term antiobiotics.
Mine is significantly worse in the heat, the heatwave we are experiencing in the UK at the moment makes my skin just impossible to manage. For the last 6 months I've been using Nizoral shampoo every evening and that has been very effective but its just not doing the job this last week or so.